41-03 ResolutionRECORD OF RESOLUTIONS
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Resolution No. 41 -03 (Amended) Passed 20
A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE REPORT
WHEREAS, Dublin City Council adopted Resolution 17 -02 which created the
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force and appointed eight members to serve on the
Task Force; and
WHEREAS, the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force has conducted numerous
meetings to study, review, discuss and consider a wide range of optional park
expansion ideas, traffic issues and long -range plans and visions; and
WHEREAS, the Coffinan Park Expansion Task Force has solicited and received
significant public input, reaction, comments and suggestions from neighborhood
civic associations in the Coffman Park vicinity, neighboring property owners, Tara
Hill residents and citizens throughout the Dublin community; and
WHEREAS, the Coffinan Park Expansion Task Force has completed its assigned
tasks and has formulated and compiled its recommendations and concept plans into
the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Report; and
WHEREAS, the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force has discussed their concept
plans and recommendations with City Council at the October 28, 2003 study session,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Council of the City of Dublin,
State of Ohio, of the elected members concurring, that:
Section 1. The Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Report is hereby accepted
and adopted by City Council as a policy guide in the future development and
expansion of the Coffman Park.
Section 2. City Council hereby acknowledges and appreciates the extraordinary
efforts of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force members.
Section 3. Implementation of the infrastructure recommendations of this Plan
shall be done only after necessary traffic calming elements are implemented on Tara
Hill and other adjoining residential areas that may be affected by the adopted Plan.
Section 4. This Resolution shall take effect and be in force from and after the
earliest date provided by law.
Passed this J� Y"� da of /t/o vcyy �r , 2003.
Mayor — Presiding Officer
ATTEST:
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Clerk of Council
I hereby certify that copies of this
Ordinance /Resolution were posted in the
City of Dublin in accordance with Section
731.25 of the Ohio Revised Code.
De ty Clerk of Council, Dublin, Ohio
Office of the City Manager
5200 Emerald Parkway • Dublin, OH 43017
Phone: 614 - 410 -4400 • Fax: 614 -410 -4490
CITY OF DUBLIN
Memo
To: Members of the Dublin City Council
From: Jane S. Brautigam, City Manager I J�c,,
Date: November 3, 2003
Re: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Summary:
On October 28, 2003, the Council met in a study session with the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force to
receive their final report. The attached resolution would adopt the report and plan recommended by the Task
Force.
A major feature of the Task Force recommendations are a series of intersection and road improvements on
Avery- Muirfield, Post Road, Perimeter Drive and Emerald Parkway. For your information, I am enclosing a
memo that I received from Finance Director Marsha Grigsby suggesting that the City may be able to fund some
of these improvements through modifications to the Perimeter Center and Ruscilli TIFs. Ordinances making
these modifications will be presented to City Council for first reading on November 17, 2003.
Recommendation:
Approve resolution adopting the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force report and plan.
CITY OF DUBLIN
Deputy City Manager /Director of Finance
5200 Emerald Parkway • Dublin, OH 43017
Phone: 614- 410 -4400 • Fax: 614- 410 -4490
To: Jane S. Brautigam, City Manager
From: Marsha I. Grigsby, Deputy City Manager /Director of Finance ti'A)A-
Date: October 20, 2003
Re: Modification of Existing Tax Increment Financing Districts
Memo
Several times each year I review and evaluate the status of the City's tax increment financing (TIF) districts. As
part of my recent review, I was thinking about ways that we could utilize our existing TIFs for future
infrastructure improvements. As you are aware, it continues to be a challenge to program needed infrastructure
improvements due to funding limitations.
There are two TIF districts that I think we should consider modifying the authorizing legislation, the Perimeter
Center TIF and the Ruscilli TIF. These TIFs are both "straight" TIFs. The City has been receiving 100% of the
service payments or payments in lieu of taxes (PILOTS) from the incremental increase in the value of the private
improvements constructed since the TIFs were established.
The Perimeter Center TIF was established to fund the construction of Emerald Parkway from Post Road to
Perimeter Drive. The roadway was constructed in 1997 and the City began receiving service payments in 1998.
As of the end of 2003, the City will be reimbursed for the roadway costs.
The Ruscilli TIF was established to fund the construction of Venture Drive and provide access to approximately
77 acres of commercially zoned land. The roadway was constructed in 1997 and 1998 and the City began
receiving service payments in 2000. The City will be reimbursed for the roadway costs in 2004.
I propose that we consider modifying the existing legislation for both TIFs. The modifications would provide for
the implementation of "non- school" TIFs after the terms of the "straight" TIFs expire and to modify the
Descriptions of the Public Improvements to add future Perimeter Drive improvements from Emerald Parkway to
Avery- Muirfield Drive, including the intersection at Avery- Muirfield Drive, and the Avery- Muirfield
Drive /Perimeter Loop intersection. The TIF areas for both impact Perimeter Drive and the referenced
intersections and would benefit from the public improvements. These modifications would also benefit existing
and future commercial development west of Avery- Muirfield Drive.
Based on current market values assigned by the Franklin County Auditor and the current effective millage rates,
the Perimeter Center TIF would generate approximately $260,000 in "non- school" service payments annually and
the Ruscilli TIF would generate approximately $175,000 annually.
If the modifications were approved, we would begin collecting the "non- school" service payments from the
Perimeter Center TIF in 2004 and from the Ruscilli TIF in 2005.
I will begin pursuing these modifications with Squire Sanders & Dempsey if you agree.
c: Frank Ciarochi, Deputy City Manager /Director of Development
Mike Stevens, Director Economic Development
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FROM THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION
TASK FORCE
OCTOBER 2003
Task Force Members
Keith Blosser, Chair
Valerie Bergdall, DVM
Chris Cline
Roger Eastep
Chuck Kranstuber
Kay Neffenger
Amy Salay
Bill Yoder
TO: Mayor McCash and Members of Dublin City Council
FROM: The Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
DATE: September 30, 2003
SUBJECT: Task Force Report on Coffman Park Expansion
On April 8, 2002, Dublin City Council passed Resolution 17 -02 which created the Coffman Park
Expansion Task Force and appointed two Council members and six Dublin citizens to serve on
the Task Force. Over the past 18 months, the Task Force has conducted 14 public meetings,
solicited input from neighborhood civic associations surrounding Coffman Park, received
suggestions for the park from a web link on the Dublin web site, heard views from individual
interested citizens, as well as the Dublin Historical Society president, land developers and traffic
experts. Discussed were, the study and analysis of various components of our assigned task.
These meetings included topics ranging from current City Council resolutions and policy
concerning park land acquisition, potential park land acquisition activities (past and future), the
Community Plan and its vision for the future of Dublin, transportation issues including access
and traffic flow for the whole park area including neighborhoods in close proximity, and park
land development usage including special needs access and equipment, and other public function
needs including the future City Hall, for Coffman Park and the surrounding area.
While the primary focus of the Task Force centered on the future development of Coffman Park
with existing city -owned property that included identifying active areas and passive areas of the
park, desirable land adjoining the east end of Coffman Park led us into land acquisition
discussions and also caused our focus to zoom -in on transportation and access issues that needed
serious attention in order to assemble the desired campus -like setting for the eastern active
portions of Coffman Park.
The overriding theme of our deliberations on the eastern portion of Coffman Park was a concept
of a "Central Park" facility to serve as a community focal point for the entire City of Dublin. As
illustrated in the concept plan, (Attachment 1) we propose that the City acquire the Thomas
property adjacent to the west of the future City Hall site. In addition, the Task Force also
recommends the "realignment" of Post Road to follow Commerce Parkway and connect to
Perimeter Drive, effectively vacating the existing section of Post Road from Commerce Parkway
east to Emerald Parkway. A driveway connection will remain to the Recreation Center and
existing park amenities and will combine with the future City Hall driveway to form a "campus"
City Hall /park setting. As you know, we also requested and reviewed a rather extensive traffic
analysis study that concluded that this "realignment of Post Road" can be accomplished with
minimal traffic impacts on the surrounding area, and in fact provided some positive traffic flow
turning movement benefits at both the Avery - Muirfield /Post Road and Emerald Parkway /Post
Road intersections. In response to a traffic- calming petition presented by the Tara Hill Drive
residents to City Council, a comprehensive study of the Tara Hill area was initiated. This study
incorporated the forecasted trips resulting from the realignment of Post Road. With phase one
complete and most of the data of phase two in, this study also supports our original traffic study
and the creation of the "campus /park area" including the new City Hall, as well as the
realignment of Post Road with no overall negative impact to the traffic on Tara Hill Drive. The
Task Force was very careful in its review of the traffic study materials to make sure that no
major adverse impacts were imposed on Tara Hill Drive, or other surrounding communities
including those of Post Road.
The overriding theme for the west end of Coffman Park, which comprises the linear portion of
the park, was to keep it as passive as possible while still expanding and growing the park areas,
creating scenery and vistas for a dramatic visual effect. This park currently serves as both a
neighborhood park and a vital connector to the Dublin Recreation Center, as well as to the now
active eastern portion of Coffman Park. To maintain accessibility to this part of Coffman Park
for the entire community, a small parking area is shown on the Halloran tract. Although the
temptation was great to "plan" all the space, new and old in the west end of Coffman Park, like a
painter looking at a blank canvas, this temptation was curbed through looking at the surrounding
existing use, with neighborhoods as well as the delicate watershed and environmental
surroundings. Although we are recommending picnic tables and enhanced trails as well as a
"counsel ring" for quiet reflection or story telling, the majority of the west end of Coffman Park
would remain as is with the addition of some plantings to enhance the natural green expanse for
enjoyment.
The Task Force also unanimously recommends that the Nyrop property be used as a nature or
learning center. The location and existing facilities make it a natural for this activity and would
provide a nice "transition" point into the linear portion of the park. Also recommended in the
plan for the east campus are large pond areas, one for recreating, and one, again, more passive
for fishing. Also included in the recommendation, as mentioned before, is a park area for the
handicapped.
Our recommended concept plans for the Coffman Park Expansion are illustrated in Attachment I
to this report. We have also enclosed an executive summary of the traffic analysis study in
Attachment II that supports our campus recommendation. Estimated itemized cost breakouts are
provided in Attachment III, as well as copies of our meeting minutes in Attachment IV. Also for
your review are copies of citizen e -mail suggestions for the park from the Dublin web site in
Attachment V.
We of the Task Force look forward to the opportunity to discuss this report and our findings and
recommendations at your study session scheduled for October 28, 2003. We believe we have
accomplished a solid concept plan for a future major central park facility with limited to minimal
impacts on the surrounding neighborhoods for the benefit of the entire community. Our
discussions were not without controversy, and as you know, we put everything out on the table,
all ideas, no matter how far afield, for public debate and criticism. This Task Force went out of
its way to insure that we heard from as many Dublin citizens as we could and that all ideas and
viewpoints were not only listened to, but also weighed and debated. In this we were very
successful.
We of the Task Force thank you for the opportunity to serve the City of Dublin by working on
this very important project. We are optimistic about the future of Coffman Park, as well as the
future of Dublin as a whole, as it continues to embrace green space and quality of life issues, as
well as being a steward for the citizens of the present, as well as the future.
Keith D. Blosser
Chair, Coffman Park Task Force
Concept Plans
Attachment l
Traffic Analysis Study
Coffman Park Expansion
Task Force Report
Attachment 11
Estimated Cost Breakouts
Attachment 111
Task Force Mtg. Minutes
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Citizen Suggestions
Attachment V
Space Expansion Plans
CITY OF DUBLIN.
Coffman Park Design Summary:
Open space acquisition and park planning is an extremely important task that must be
completed with future generations in mind. What will Dublin look like in 40 years after its all
developed, and what quality of life we will leave for our children or their children are all
questions that require a long -term focus. The preservation of green space is often a once -in-
a- lifetime opportunity, and planning for public open space systems must utilize foresight and
visioning. As development continues to spread across the country, many cities are faced with
shortages of adequate public parks and open space. Dublin, however, has placed a
significant importance in acquiring public open space. The work of the Coffman Park
Expansion Task Force to study the potential expansion of the park is evidence of this primary
objective.
The 1997 Community Plan identifies Coffman Park as being a critical open space component
for the City of Dublin and its residents. The Plan acknowledges that the park, which is
centrally located, should serve as a civic core for Dublin. Much as the Emerald Necklace in
Boston or Central Park in New York City does, providing a significant open space
component with key city facilities creates a centerpiece of civic space to which all residents
can identify. As part of this overall goal, the Plan emphasizes locating public buildings in
prominent locations, while providing open space linkages and pedestrian connections
between the various park uses. Just as important, the Plan acknowledges that these efforts
must be accomplished while respecting the character of Post Road and protecting the
environmental and ecological importance of the South Fork Indian Run corridor.
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Coffman Park serves as the civic foundation for a greater open space system.
Based upon this framework, general discussion and studies to look at the future expansion of
Coffman Park and the incorporation of additional park uses centered upon the following
major design goals:
• To create a larger, more useful consolidated park space that is balanced by major public
buildings;
• To give better definition and a more apparent visual identity to Coffman Park by creating
a clear edge;
• To solidify Coffman Park as the civic foundation of a much larger greenway system;
• To create a greater central park space, while limiting impact on surrounding residential
neighborhoods;
• To protect and enhance the South Pork Indian Run as an ecological and environmental
asset;
• To preserve and supplement the unique visual character of the Post Road corridor;
• To identify and focus on the existing and potential future natural features of the park;
• To emphasize and enhance views and vistas throughout the park; and
• To provide visual and physical access to a diverse array of activities and environs
throughout the park.
Looking at the existing character of Coffman Park and potential future uses, the overall
design character of Coffman Park reflects two diverse, but importance roles. The "East Civic
Campus" generally includes the Recreation Center and areas to the east and south and can be
characterized by more active components of the park. Areas to the west, stretching from the
Recreation Center to Red Trabue Nature Preserve are generally reflective of the ecological
role and natural beauty of the South Fork Indian Run. Incorporated uses focus upon ecology,
natural education, visual beauty, and passive use of space. These two specific functions
combine to form Dublin's very own "Central Park."
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Fish Pond. The fish pond provides a naturalized area for
fishing that links to the surrounding trail and enhances the
character of the existing fence row and adjacent ponds.
Potential locations for stopping points and overlooks into
the pond create a usable and visual link between the
Justice Center and the future Municipal Building.
Sail Pond and Boat House. The Sail Pond provides a
substantial body of water that would accommodate small
sail boats and other water activities. The pond provides a
visual link of water across Perimeter Drive, creating long
views from the Emerald Parkway Bridge that are
highlighted by the Boat House. The pond provides a more
traditional park area with manicured edges and stone
treatments. The Boat House overlooking the pond
preserves the nearby Thomas Barn and provides the
expanded potential for recreational programs.
Open Pasture. Adjacent to the future Municipal Building,
the pasture serves to provide a visual reminder of the
agrarian past of the site, formerly the Thomas Farmstead.
It will provide open views from the interior park drive and
protects the environmental quality and character of the
Indian Run corridor.
East Campus: Park Program Elements
Special Needs Playground. Located with access to remote
parking and park facilities, the special needs playgi
provides activity for under - represented groups v
Coffman Park. Specialized play equipment within
proximity to the water park provides the ability to inte
children with physical disabilities into playground
water activities.
The proposed water play facility
:ale area for children's activities. The
along the sail pond and could utilize
nues the nature/aquatic theme of the
Future Municipal Building. The proposed municipal
building site will provide the cornerstone for the eastern
civic campus. Accommodating an 80,000 square foot
facility, its location at the intersection of Emerald Parkway
and Post Road provides a visual focal point for commuters
and visitors from both the I -270 and US33 overpasses.
Sitting adjacent to the Post and Emerald intersection, the
Municipal Building is a monument to civic architecture
accented by formal gardens and outdoor spaces.
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. Open Play Space. Preservation of open space
between the existing Community Relations building
and remote parking for the Recreation Center will
provide the ability for impromptu activities such as
Frisbee, kite Flying, or pitch- and - catch.
Outdoor Recreation Area. The outdoor recreation area
creates a lighted outdoor facility that provides numerous
basketball courts, sand volleyball, or other programmable
activities in a non - residential area. Basketball would he
eliminated from the existing Municipal Building,
relocating more noise- intensive group activities away from
adjacent residences. The facility would be located in a
more visible, supervised area and provide more active uses
to link the southern extension of the park system. Plans
include additional parking to accommodate both recreation
and future expansion of the Justice Center.
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Reforestation. Elimination of the existing Community
Relations site will provide the opportunity to complete
additional reforestation returning the area to a more natural
environment and eliminating uses that are not compatible
with adjacent residential neighborhoods.
Watch House. The Watch House provides a visual focal
point for park visitors traveling to the recreation center.
Recommended re- grading would make the public art more
noticeable to passing motorists and pedestrians, providing
a foreground of color and improving overall use.
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Tennis Courts. Relocation of the existing basketball court
near the municipal building will provide the ability to
expand the existing tennis facility. While lighted, such
uses are less intensive and are more compatible with the
adjacent residential neighborhood.
Other Existing Park Uses:
• Coffman Homestead
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Perimeter Drive Wall Treatment. A stonewall and
lighting treatment along Perimeter Drive will visually link
the Sail Pond and Fish Pond, creating the appearance of
one large lake. Long views from the Emerald Parkway
bridge at US 33 will provide long views across the water
that terminate at the Boat House.
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Oak Savanna. Utilization of existing fencerows and tree
stands will create a unique and special "outdoor room"
Selective planting and spacing of indigenous oak trees will one
day create majestic specimens that will stand out from
surrounding woodland areas.
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. Stream Reforestation. Selective tree plantings of indigenous
species will provide additional canopy and create an increased
vegetative buffer along the Indian Run, improving erosion
control and providing increased habitat.
Wetland Restoration. Adjacent to the existing pond, wetland
areas will help to protect the ecological quality of the Indian
Run. Native species such as lilies, lotus, and arrow arum can
be implemented to further fitter runoff from the adjacent
residential neighborhood. Plants will provide additional
habitat, color, and assist with erosion control. A pedestrian
bridge will cross the Indian Run, and the pedestrian path will
be highlighted by a small waterfall that will cascade into the
wetland area.
Picnic Grounds and Council Ring. Passive areas for
picnicking and gathering are nestled along the Indian Run.
Adjacent to spectacular stands of Bald Cypress with views
across the Run, a council ring reminiscent of an old campfire
discussion will provide formal eating space and outdoor
classroom facilities.
i- Parking Areas. Small in scale and sensitively sited into
surrounding environment, limited parking areas are
ided to create access for future park users. Placement to
ort surrounding park elements will alleviate congestion
n surrounding residential neighborhoods.
Prairie Meadow. Along the north side of Post Road, a
prairie meadow of tall native grasses will buffer the Indian
Run. The meadow will create additional bird and wildlife
habitat, and provide scenic views from Post Road.
Wildflower Patch.
Native wildflowers will provide an added burst of color to open
areas surrounding the pond. Species can be selected to attract
butterflies and ensure a carpet of flowers throughout the
growing season.
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•tant Park Design Elements:
Incorporation of unique entry signage and public art th,
natural theme of the park and creates identity.
Installation of uniform park furniture, lighting, etc. for continuity ana to re-
enforce park identity.
Utilization of landscape materials and elements to re- enforce the rural /rustic
stage and character of Coffman Park and Post Road.
of indigenous materials such as limestone for buildings, bi
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Lual land use plan is proposed by members of the Task Force that
to park south of Post Road and reconfigures the existing roadway
network.
A revised conceptual land use plan is reviewed by the Task Force that creates a centralized green
campus and reconfigures Post Road. Traffic studies are undertaken to confirm the feasibility for
the proposed plan.
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Focus of the Task Force centers on the eastern half (East Civic
Campus) of Coffman Park. Refined land use plans (Alternatives 1 A
and 1B) are discussed by the Task Force and a recommendation is
made to move ahead with plans that include the Thomas Property.
A preliminary land use plan for all of Coffman Park is presented and discussed by the
January 27, 2003 Task Force. Discussions regarding park elements for the western corridor begin.
July 22, 2003
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Substantial discussion regarding potential park uses and program
elements, the Task Force recommends preliminary master plans for the
East Civic Campus, pending the results of traffic studies being
conducted for Tara Hill Traffic Calming.
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August 27, 2003
Final plans for the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force are
presented for both the East Civic Campus and West Corridor.
The Task Force makes final recommendations and forwards
to City Council for adoption.
The Task Force reconvenes after a seven -month break to discuss park uses
and program elements for the West Corridor. Traffic results from Tara
Hill are provided, indicating that the proposed plans will have very limited
impacts on the Tara Hill area.
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City purchases the Nyrop Property, which is recommended by the
Task Force as a future nature center.
Attachment II
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION
STUDY OF ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC CONDITIONS
Executive Summary
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
September 26, 2003
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PURPOSE OF REPORT
The City of Dublin contracted with Parsons Transportation Group to study traffic
conditions within the Post Road corridor as the City ponders the potentials for expanding
Coffman Park. The Consultant worked closely with City staff and the Coffman Park
Expansion Task Force on this project.
A significant amount of materials and technical information were prepared as part of this
project. Most of the material was documented for handouts at Task Force work sessions
and for meetings with stakeholders. The purpose of this Executive Summary report is to
summarize, as best as possible, the vast amounts of data and information to provide an
overview of the project and to identify the key findings.
BASE PLANNING MATERIALS
The study area is generally bound by Tara Hill Drive on the north, Avery- Muirfield Drive
on the west, US33 /SR161 on the south, and Emerald Parkway /Coffman Road on the east.
The basic study area is shown in Figure 1.
When the Dublin Travel Demand Model was set up (as part of the last Community Plan
effort), the immediate study area was divided into four Traffic Analysis Zones (TAZs)—
to isolate land -uses as vehicle -trip generators for the modeling efforts. The City's
Planning Division provided detailed information on the type and size of land -uses within
each of the four zones. In 1997, when modeling was performed for thoroughfare plan
definition, future land -uses were estimated for year 2020 and full build -out. Staff
updated these estimates for the current study. Compared to the values used in the
Community Plan efforts, the updated land -use projections yield the following:
85,000 sf more retail space (auto dealerships),
230,000 sf less industrial space, and
1,120,000 sf less office space.
With significant amounts of land now developed, land -use types and densities have
become more discernible. As such, projections of future conditions become more
accurate and reliable. With a significant shift of the retail space to auto retail and with a
significant reduction in office and industrial space, the number of vehicle -trips entering
and exiting the study area will be significantly less than used in the development of the
Thoroughfare Plan (as defined in the Community Plan). This condition reopened the
opportunity to investigate the feasibility of redirecting Post Road at its eastern end as
depicted in earlier planning efforts (i.e., when alternatives were being evaluated
associated with the extension of Coffman Road south of Post Road, over US33 /SR 161,
to Tuttle Crossing Boulevard – a route now designated as Emerald Parkway). In these
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FUTURE TRAFFIC VOLUMES
Traffic volumes were projected to year 2020 assuming the build -out of lands bound by
US33 /SR161, I -270, and Post Road (including all properties directly accessed off Post
Road). The traffic volume estimates also considered the build -out of the properties along
Emerald Parkway south of US33 /SR161 (to Tuttle Crossing Boulevard) and the extension
of Emerald Parkway east of Riverside Drive to Sawmill Road opposite Saltergate Drive.
In summary, the projected traffic volumes used in this study include:
• Traffic generated by full development of the four study area TAZs,
• Traffic passing east -west through the study area without an origin or
destination in the four zones,
• Traffic generated by full development of the land west of Avery - Muirfield
Drive (including east -west traffic passing through the immediate study
area),
• Through traffic passing north -south on Avery - Muirfield Drive that does
not have an origin or destination in the study area, and
• Through traffic passing north -south on Emerald Parkway that does not
have an origin or destination in the study area.
ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ROADWAY SYSTEM
The projected future traffic volumes were assigned to the current roadway system —as it
exists today. This includes the retention of the left turn restriction for southbound traffic
on Avery - Muirfield Drive desiring to access Post Road. With this left turn restriction,
drivers take an alternate route — either Tara Hill Drive or Perimeter Drive. While the
southbound to eastbound movement is restricted at the intersection of Avery - Muirfield
Drive and Post Road, the reverse movement is available in that drivers traveling
westbound on Post Road are able to turn right and proceed northbound on Avery -
Muirfield Drive.
Without the southbound left turn lane on Avery - Muirfield Drive at Post Road,
excessively high traffic volumes are projected for the southbound left turn movement on
Avery - Muirfield Drive at Perimeter Drive. In order to accommodate projected traffic
volumes, dual southbound left turn lanes will be required. In fact, dual left turn lanes and
separate right turn lanes will be required on all four approaches. Along with this,
Perimeter Drive will have to be widened to six lanes between Wilcox Road and Metatee
Boulevard to provide the necessary number of turn lanes at Metatec Boulevard.
A better solution is to improve the intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive with Post Road
by providing a southbound left turn lane -- along with separate left turn lanes on the east
and west legs of Post Road. These modifications will help balance the traffic loads and
take needless pressures off the intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive with Perimeter
Drive. In addition, it will not be necessary to provide dual eastbound left turn lanes on
Perimeter Drive at Metatec Boulevard -- thus negating the need for a six -lane cross -
section on Perimeter Drive between Wilcox Road and Metatec Boulevard.
In other words, if a southbound left turn movement from Avery - Muirfield Drive to
eastbound Post Road continues to be restricted, the added traffic volume burden on the
intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive with Perimeter Drive will cause it to fail
miserably. This intersection will be the "achilles' heel" for the Avery - Muirfield Drive
corridor with excessive congestion and gridlock. As such, the Task Force recognized the
need for modifications at the intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive with Post Road and
the recommended improvements /modifications were carried forth in all other study
efforts.
POST ROAD ALTERNATIVES
The Consultant was directed to investigate the transportation impacts of three Post Road
alternatives as they relate to the potential expansion of Coffman Park. The alternatives
were as follows (reference Figure 2):
Alternate 1 (Existing Post Road): This alternate retains the basic layout of
the current roadway system with Post Road maintained as a continuous
east -west through road —in accordance with the current Thoroughfare
Plan. (This alternative also includes the restoration of the southbound left
turn lane from Avery - Muirfield Drive to Post Road, along with
improvements to Post Road with permanent signalization, as called for in
the Thoroughfare Plan.)
Alternate 2 (Post Road Redirected): This alternative retains existing Post
Road west of Commerce Parkway but redirects the eastern section along
Commerce Parkway to intersect with Perimeter Drive. (In this alternative,
the current western leg of the Post at Emerald intersection is removed;
also, Perimeter Drive is retained in its current alignment east of Commerce
Parkway.)
Alternate 3 (Post Road Connected to Coffman Park Drive): This
alternative retains existing Post Road west of Commerce Parkway while,
east of Commerce Parkway, Post Road is linked with Coffinan Park Drive.
Also, in this alternative, Perimeter Drive is linked directly with Emerald
Parkway at its intersection with Post Road.
There were nine primary goals (or criteria) established for the evaluation of the
alternatives. They were as follows, but not in any particular order:
Minimize through traffic on Post Road.
Prevent the shift of traffic to parallel residential streets (such as Tara Hill
Drive).
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• Continue to provide good access for existing and future developments in
the Perimeter Drive corridor.
• Maintain good traffic operations on Avery - Muirfield Drive -- considering
long -term needs.
• Maintain good traffic operations on Emerald Parkway — considering long-
term needs.
• Respect the character of Post Road.
• Minimize traffic impacts on existing Coffman Park.
• Allow for existing Coffman Park to be expanded to the south.
• Create a prominent site for a future City Hall.
Based upon a critique of critical factors, the Task Force determined that Alternate 2 best
accomplished the goals.
From a traffic engineering standpoint, Alternate 2 also yielded the best overall traffic
plan. In particular, it offered the best opportunity to solve the congestion problems on
Emerald Parkway between Coffman Road and Post Road. By removing the western leg
of the Post /Emerald intersection, the traffic lanes on the eastern leg (i.e., the new section
of Post Road that was built with the widening of the Post Road bridge over I -270) could
be reworked to create two receiving lanes. With this, dual southbound left turns could
then be provided on Emerald Parkway for turns to Post Road. This will optimize traffic
operations at this intersection and significantly reduce the long queues that currently exist
in this area. Furthermore, these improvements /modifications will greatly enhance future
traffic operations, including those associated with the planned expansion of Cardinal
Health and those associated with the future extension of Emerald Parkway east of the
river to Sawmill Road.
REFINEMENT OF ALTERNATE 2
The Task Force requested further refinements to the preferred roadway plan. The
refinements focused on roadway modifications and park access on the eastern end of the
study area, along with potential traffic calming measures for Post Road in the western
section of the study area.
Two basic plans were defined for the eastern sector. One assumed that the land located
north of Perimeter Drive and immediately east of Commerce Parkway was under public
control, while the other assumed private ownership and the development of an office
complex on the site. The primary differences between the two roadway plans were the
design of the Post Road /Commerce Parkway intersection and access systems for the park
itself.
With respect to the western section of Post Road, various traffic calming scenarios were
investigated. With the build -out of the study area (including the revitalization of empty
or nearly empty existing developments), traffic volumes on the western section of Post
Road are expected to increase. Residents along this section recognized the need for Post
Road to function as an access route to Perimeter developments and, as such, they felt they
could tolerate the increases in traffic volumes. However, they do prefer the installation of
traffic calming devices to better control the speed of the traffic along the roadway. To
this end, five potential treatments of Post Road were sketched associated with the
segment between Muirfield Drive and Wilcox Road, as follows:
• Retention of Post Road as it is today, but with better landscaped buffers on
both sides.
• Installation of chicanes.
• histallation of a median (similar to the median on Woemer- Temple Road
in Ballantrae).
• Installation of a single chicane in the center area and buffer both sides.
• Installation of a single median in the center area and buffer both sides.
In all five schemes a modern roundabout is suggested for the intersection of Post Road
with Metatec Boulevard.
COMPOSITE PLAN
At a special meeting with Post Road residents, the attendees opted for the last traffic
calming plan which places a single large median in Post Road just north of the pond. The
Task Force also indicated preference for the plan that shows all land east of Commerce
Parkway under public control. Given this, the Consultant and City staff prepared a
composite plan for the whole study area. The resultant plan is shown in Figure 3.
Figures 4 and 5 provide enlargements of the roadway plans for the western and eastern
sectors, respectively.
As shown in Figure 4, the key roadway improvements /modifications are as follows:
• Install a modern roundabout at the intersection of Post Road with Metatec
Boulevard.
• Provide a single large median in Post Road north of the pond.
• Add left turn lanes on the west, north, and east legs of the intersection
between Avery - Muirfield Drive and Post Road.
• Install a permanent traffic signal at the Avery - Muirfield Drive intersection
with Post Road.
• Provide a southbound right turn lane on Avery - Muirfield Drive at
Perimeter Drive.
• Add a lane on the north side of Perimeter Drive (east and west of Avery -
Muirfield Drive) to yield the opportunity for dual left turn lanes on the
east and west approaches.
• Widen Perimeter Drive to five lanes between Wilcox Road and Metatec
Boulevard.
• Install a traffic signal (when warranted) at the intersection of Perimeter
Drive with Metatec Boulevard.
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The key elements of the roadway plan for the eastern sector, as shown in Figure 5, are as
follows:
• Bend Post Road to engage the Commerce Parkway alignment.
• Widen Post Road /Commerce Parkway north of Perimeter Drive.
• Widen Perimeter Drive east and west of its intersection with Post
Road /Commerce Parkway.
• Install a traffic signal (when warranted) at the intersection of Perimeter
Drive with Post Road /Commerce Parkway.
• Close the western leg of the Emerald Parkway /Post Road intersection.
• Rework the intersection of Emerald at Post to provide for dual southbound
left turn lanes on Emerald Parkway.
It should be noted that Perimeter Drive returns to its existing three -lane cross - section
approximately 700 feet west of the Post Road /Commerce Parkway intersection. A three -
lane cross - section is sufficient for this segment west to Metatec Boulevard. The
combination of Post Road and Perimeter Drive west of Commerce Parkway will provide
sufficient capacity for both through traffic and traffic generated by developments in the
area.
IMPACTS ON TARA HILL DRIVE
The implementation of the preferred Post Road corridor plan is expected to have only a
minor impact on Tara Hill Drive traffic volumes. As illustrated in the "Tara Hill Traffic
Calming Study" performed by R.D. Zande & Associates, it is projected that there will
actually be a general reduction in through traffic volumes on Tara Hill Drive during the
AM peak hour and during the PM school peak hour. While the implementation of the
preferred Post Road corridor plan may cause around ten vehicles to divert to Tara Hill
Drive, the opening of the Dublin - Jerome High School will take away some 55 through
vehicles from Tara Hill Drive. Thus, through traffic volumes on Tara Hill Drive will
likely decrease during these hours.
However, during the PM commuter peak hour (assuming no school trips), the
implementation of the preferred Post Road corridor plan could cause an increase of up to
25 through vehicles on Tara Hill Drive. This projected increase can be offset through the
implementation of appropriate traffic calming measures along Tara Hill Drive. Various
alternatives for Tara Hill traffic calming (directed primarily at speed reduction and safety
enhancements) will be investigated in the next stage of the R.D. Zande study.
POTENTIAL PHASING OF ROADWAY MODIFICATIONS
Several elements of the recommended roadway system could be constructed in the near -
term to enhance existing conditions. These include the following:
The proposed modifications at the intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive
with Perimeter Drive.
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• The proposed modifications at the intersection of Avery - Muirfield Drive
with Post Road — including the installation of a southbound left turn lane
on Avery - Muirfield Drive and the installation of a permanent traffic
signal.
• Redirection of Post Road via Commerce Parkway and the reconstruction
of Commerce Parkway.
• Reconstruction of Perimeter Drive east and west of Commerce Parkway.
• Closure of the west leg of Post Road at Emerald Parkway and provision of
dual southbound left turn lane on Emerald Parkway at Post Road.
The improvements to the Avery - Muirfield Drive intersections will significantly improve
traffic operations along this important corridor and the provision of the southbound left
turn lane on Avery- Muirfield Drive at Post Road will assist in removing some through
traffic from Tara Hill Drive. However, in order to protect the residents who live along
Post Road from increased through traffic volumes, Post Road needs to be redirected to
Commerce Parkway as called for in the preferred plan. With the redirection of Post Road
via Commerce Parkway, the western leg of the Post/Emerald intersection can be closed.
This yields the opportunity to provide dual southbound left turn lanes on Emerald
Parkway, thus improving traffic operations on the segment of Emerald Parkway between
Coffinan and Post Roads. This enhancement will be particularly useful to accommodate
the expected traffic volumes generated by the expansion of Cardinal Health.
Subsequent to the completion of the near -term roadway system, other elements of the
preferred plan can be implemented on an as- needed basis. The remaining elements of the
preferred plan will be needed to properly accommodate build -out of the area.
Attachment III
Coffman Park Expansion
Preliminary Estimates of Costs
Staff has been determining preliminary estimates of costs
associated with the recreation and park facilities, municipal
building complex, and transportation improvements required to
implement the recommended Coffman Park Expansion Concept
Plan. These costs will be distributed to the Task Force for review
at the September 30, 2003 meeting.
Attachment III
Coffman Park Expansion
Preliminary Estimates of Costs
Recreation and Park Facilities, East Campus
Recreation and Park Facilities, West Corridor
Municipal Building Complex
$ 5,444,874
$ 760,898
$18,050,000
Transportation Improvements $ 4,042,500
COFFMAN PARK EAST CAMPUS
City of Dublin
Division of
Grounds and Facilities
6555 Shier -Rings Road
Dublin, Ohio 43016
BIKE /PEDESTRIAN PATHS
1 LS
$
155,000
$
155,000
BIKE TUNNEL
1 LS
$
450,000
$
450,000
WATER PLAY AREA
1 LS
$
409,600
$
409,600
SPECIAL NEEDS PLAYGROUND
1 LS
$
250,000
$
250,000
RELOCATED BARN /SHELTER/PATIO /BOATHOUSE
1 LS
$
220,000
$
220,000
SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS
2 EA.
$
7,000
$
14,000
BASKETBALL COURTS, LIGHTED
3 EA.
$
56,666
$
169,998
SPORT COURT PLAZA WITH SHELTER
1 LS
$
170,000
$
170,000
SPORT COURT PARKING LOT
1 LS
$
125,000
$
125,000
TENNIS COURT, LIGHTED
1 EA.
$
55,000
$
55,000
PRACTICE TENNIS COURT
1 LS
$
15,000
$
15,000
SHUFFLEBOARD/ BOCCI BALL
4 EA.
$
11,250
$
45,000
SHUFFLEBOARD/ BOCCI BALL PLAZA
1 LS
$
82,500
$
82,500
MISC. PARKING LOTS
1 LS
$
56,000
$
56,000
PARK ROADWAYS
1 LS
$
218,400
$
218,400
PONDS
1 LS
$
425,000
$
425,000
POND OVERLOOK
1 LS
$
50,000
$
50,000
PLAZAS, SMALL
3 LS
$
30,000
$
90,000
GATEWAY FEATURE
1 LS
$
150,000
$
150,000
" EDESTRIAN BRIDGE
1 LS
$
45,000
$
45,000
JEW PED, BRIDGE TO PARK
1 LS
$
130,000
$
130,000
REPLACE EXISTING SHELTERS
2 EA.
$
110,000
$
220,000
RESTROOM
1 LS
$
250,000
$
250,000
NATURE CENTER REHAB.
1 LS
$
75,000
$
75,000
SITE FURNISHINGS
1 LS
$
52,000
$
52,000
REFORESTATION
1 LS
$
30,000
$
30,000
WILDFLOWER MEADOW
1 LS
$
6,750
$
6,750
NON- ASSOC. GRADING /SEEDING ALLOWANCE
1 LS
$
240,000
$
240,000
LANDSCAPE ALLOWANCE
1 LS
$
105,000
$
105,000
Subtotal $ 4,304,248
Contingency $ 645,637
Design Fees $ 494,989
Grand Total $ 5,444,874
THESE PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES ARE BASED UPON CONCEPTUAL IDEAS WITHOUT
THE BENEFIT OF SOILS REPORTS, GRADES, FINAL DESIGN PLANS, AND FINAL FINISHES.
THIS ESTIMATE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ONLY THE CONSTRUCTION OF PARK AMENITIES AND
FACILITIES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE DEMOLITION OR CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADS, OR
THE EXTENSION OF PUBLIC UTILITIES TO THE PARK INTERIOR ESTIMATORS HAVE NO
CONTROL OVER THE COST OF LABOR, MATERIAL, OR THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY
BIDDING CLIMATE. FURTHER ESTIMATE REFINEMENT REQUIRES DEVELOPMENT PLANS,
1 9/30/2003
COFFMAN PARK WEST CORRIDOR
City of Dublin
Divison of
Grounds and Facilities
6555 Shior —Rings Road
Dublin, Ohio 43016
OAK SAVANNA
1 LS
$ 3,000
$
3,000
MINI PARKING LOT
1 LS
$ 50,000
$
50,000
PRAIRIE MEADOW
1 LS
$ 4,500
$
4,500
STREAM REFORESTATION /RESTORATION
1 LS
$ 60,000
$
60,000
WETLAND CONSTRUCTION/ ESTABLISHMENT
1 LS
$ 130,000
$
130,000
COUNCIL RING
1 LS
$ 28,000
$
28,000
PEDESTRIAN/ BIKE PATH BRIDGE
2 LS
$ 45,000
$
90,000
BIKE/ PEDESTRIAN PATHS
1 LS
$ 150,000
$
150,000
WILDFLOWER MEADOW
1 LS
$ 4,000
$
4,000
MISC. SITE FURNISHINGS
1 LS
$ 12,000
$
12,000
MISC, SITE IMPROVEMENTS/ LANDSCAPING
1 LS
$ 70,000
$
70,000
Subtotal
$
601,500
Contingency
$
90,225
Design Fees
$
69,173
Grand Total
$
760,898
THESE PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES ARE BASED UPON CONCEPTUAL IDEAS WITHOUT
THE BENEFIT OF SOILS REPORTS, GRADES, FINAL DESIGN PLANS, AND FINAL FINISHES.
FHIS ESTIMATE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ONLY THE CONSTRUCTION OF PARK AMENITIES AND
FACILITIES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE DEMOLITION OR CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADS, OR
THE EXTENSION OF PUBLIC UTILITIES TO THE PARK INTERIOR ESTIMATORS HAVE NO
CONTROL OVER THE COST OF LABOR, MATERIAL, OR THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY
BIDDING CLIMATE, FURTHER ESTIMATE REFINEMENT REQUIRES DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
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Municipal Building Complex
• Construction of anew 100,000 sq. ft. Municipal Building in 2008
Subtotal
Acquisition
Architectural Fees
GRAND TOTAL
$16,000,000
$16,000,000
$ 500,000
$ 1,550,000
$18,050,000
THESE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES OF COSTS ARE BASED UPON CONCEPTUAL IDEAS
WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF SOILS REPORTS, GRADES, FINAL DESIGN PLANS, AND FINAL
FINISHES.
9/30/2003
Coffman Park Expansion
Transportation Improvements
• Install Permanent Signal at Avery - Muirfield Drive /Post Road Intersection
• Traffic Calming East of Avery - Muirfield Drive /Post Road Intersection
• Improve Avery - Muirfield Drive /Perimeter Drive Intersection
• Install Traffic Circle at Post Road /Metatec Boulevard Intersection
• Install Signal at Perimeter Drive /Commerce Parkway Intersection,
Add Lane on southside of Perimeter Drive west of Intersection,
Add Lanes on southside of Perimeter Drive east of the intersection
• Realign Post Road and Add Lane on eastside of Commerce Parkway
• Widen Perimeter Drive from 3 Lanes to 5 Lanes between Wilcox Road
to Metatec Boulevard and Install Traffic Signal at the Perimeter
Drive /Metatec Boulevard Intersection
Subtotal
Contingency
Design Fees
GRAND TOTAL
$600,000
$460,000
$575,000
$215,000
$500,000
$300,000
$500,000
$3,150,000
$ 472,500
$ 420,000
$4,042,500
THESE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES OF COSTS ARE BASED UPON KEY ROADWAY
IMPROVEMENTS /MODIFICATIONS AS DETAILED AND DEPICTED IN THE COFFMAN PARK
EXPANSION - STUDY OF ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC CONDITIONS WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF
SOILS REPORTS, GRADES, RIGHT -OF -WAY ACQUISITION, UTILITY RELOCATIONS, AND FINAL
DESIGN PLANS. CHANGES IN THE COSTS OF LABOR, MATERIAL, OR THE CONSTRUCTION
INDUSTRY BIDDING CLIMATE WILL AFFECT THESE ESTIMATES. FURTHER REFINEMENTS OF
THE ESTIMATES REQUIRES THE PERFORMANCE OF DETAILED ENGINEERING.
9/30/2003
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Tuesday, April 16, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Organizational Meeting Agenda
I. Introductory Comments — Amy Salay & Chuck Kranstuber
II. Round Table
III. Background re Expansion of Coffinan Park
IV. Next meeting date
V. Adjourn
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
April 16, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Chuck Kranstuber
Amy Salay
Keith Blosser
Roger Eastep
Chris Cline
Bill Yoder
Valerie Bergdall
Kay Neffenger
Frank Ciarochi
Mr. Kranstuber called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. He stated that he and fellow
Councilmember, Amy Salay, have discussed the selection of a Chair for the Task Force. If there
are no objections, they would like to appoint Keith Blosser to serve as Chair.
Ms. Salay presented background on the formation of the Task Force. She stated that a few
months ago, a plan developed by the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission for the
expansion of the Coffman Park area was presented to Council. As Ward Representative for this
area, she, as well as some of the residents, had issues with that plan, one of which was that the
plan was developed and approved by PRAC without the benefit of a public forum. The public
was not advised that this topic was being reviewed by PRAC. Therefore, she, and a couple of
other Council Members were not willing to adopt the proposed expansion plan, which was
presented to Council for approval. She suggested that the plan be taken "back to the drawing
board," where the different issues could be discussed openly. The hope is that a plan will
emerge for the area that will not only produce a beautiful community park, but also has the
support of the remaining property owners in the area. Council's commitment to the property
owners is that their land will not be taken by eminent domain, therefore, the task is to produce a
plan for a beautiful, yet usable park that is respectful of the homes in the immediate area.
Keith Blosser assumed the Chair. He stated that the initial attempt will be to obtain a history on
the subject. He encouraged a free flow of ideas in a mutually respectful manner. He inquired
how many meetings are anticipated for the study, and how often the Task Force would like to
meet.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that using the previous Southwest Traffic Task Force as a comparison, he
would estimate six meetings would be needed with the Task Force meeting twice a month,
perhaps on the Mondays on which Council meetings are not scheduled.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that information would be needed for discussion purposes. He would
suggest aerials of the area in the form of slides, as well as large -scale maps. This is a difficult
area to get a good grasp on. Also, as the discussion moves along, if the Task Force decides that
it would be advisable to have an architectural firm draw a visual plan of the area, that could be
possible.
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Following discussion, Committee consensus was to meet on Council's off Mondays.
Mr. Kranstuber requested that staff provide a map of the study area which indicates the land the
City has purchased and the land which is still held by private property owners.
Mr. Blosser stated that PRAC recommended a proposal to Council, which included a color map
of the proposed plan. He requested copies of that proposal be provided, with the map enlarged
as much as possible. He inquired if there was information prior to that, which would be needed,
such as the outcome of the Post Road Committee meetings.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the Post Road Committee dealt with the development of policy direction
regarding the current property owners on Post Road and the dispersion of the property which was
acquired by the City. He offered to provide copies of the meeting notes and the policy that
resulted from those meetings.
Mr. Yoder stated that it appears that development may occur soon on the south side of Post
Road. The Task Force requests that the City shares any information it has regarding these
parcels, including any future plans for development. There may also be traffic studies regarding
future use of Post Road and anticipated growth and the expected traffic volume in the future --
Doyle Clear may have that information. Mr. Yoder requested information on the proposed
community center itself— estimated size? Does a written program exist for the future
community center along Post Road; if so, does it cover anticipated growth and activities? What
are the land requirements for parks?
Ms. Salay stated that a major component of that plan is to situate a new City Hall on the south
side of Post Road.
Mr. Yoder requested a large map on which the Task Force can site proposed activities, features.
Mr. Cline stated that the City developed the Coffinan Park Master Plan, dated July 17, 1989.
That plan provided that Post Road would cease to be a through road. The plan was done by
Karlsbarger and Company, and a model was also constructed, which sat in the lobby of City Hall
for a time. Mr. Cline asked that staff obtain a copy of that plan for the Task Force.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the City made the decision to purchase properties on Post Road from
willing sellers three to four years ago. Other than the Thomas property, only four properties
remain which have not been purchased, and the City established the policy not to take any
properties by eminent domain. He is not certain how copies of a plan from 1989 would be
beneficial now.
Mr. Cline stated that the property owners are comfortable with the policy negotiated with the
Post Road Committee last summer.
Mr. Blosser stated that he would consider it wise to look at all the plans for this area, old as well
as new.
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Ms. Salay inquired how public comment in these meetings would be handled.
Mr. Blosser responded that parameters would be established first tonight, with public comments
accepted at the end of the meeting. The meetings would all be open to the public, and the public
is encouraged to participate.
Ms. Bergdall stated that it would also be helpful for the Task Force to be aware of PRAC's goals
for this area.
Mr. Blosser responded that copies of PRAC's recommendation to Council would be provided by
staff.
Mr. Eastep inquired what Council expects this Task Force to accomplish.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Council established the goal to acquire the properties on Post Road
and develop that land as a large, central park area. This action was in response to an earlier City
goal to create a new identity for Dublin. Council also added the plan for a new City Hall to be
constructed in that park area. Some Council members also favored the suggestion to close Post
Road at Avery Road, converting all the area up to the Justice Center to central park area. The
majority of this Council supports that plan. He noted that if the goal of the parties present
tonight is to stop the plan from going forward, this Task Force should disband. If the goal is to
move the park forward, Council's desire for this Task Force is to develop a plan that is
acceptable to the residents as well as meets the needs of the other 30,000 Dublin residents.
There are steps that can be taken to make it an idyllic setting for the current residents. However,
the most recent plan is already a compromise. The goal for the Task Force would be to
establish: (1) the boundaries of the park; (2) an interim plan; (3) plans for the Community
Relations building; (4) plans for Post Road; and (5) develop components /features for the park.
Council assumes that the plan for the park will be developed, which will include the Thomas
land, up Post Road on the north side.
Mr. Cline stated that the goal of the property owners is to no longer feel threatened by the City,
that the City not be perceived as a predator who wants their land. The property owners want
their land to interface with the park to preserve the residential nature of the neighborhood. Their
desire is that the park would be planned around their homes with that in mind, that there would
be no activities that would denigrate the residential character. A linear park should work well in
this area. Also, there are many innovative ideas for development. For instance, the Dantzer
property could be developed into an educational facility similar to Malabar Farm, perhaps with
Irish sheep in the pasture, and a nature trail ruining by it. The question could be: "What are the
needs of the City that this park can meet within that framework ?"
Mr. Kranstuber clarified that it is not the City's policy to never acquire the remaining properties
on Post Road. Ultimately, although it may be many years in the future, the City's policy would
be to acquire all the land on Post Road. That will occur only when the property owners, whoever
they may be at that time, are interested and willing to sell their land.
Mr. Cline stated that the policy, as stated, was that "the City may not ever acquire all the
properties...."
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Mr. Blosser inquired if the understanding is that the City would pursue purchase of any
remaining properties.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that all policy questions would be referred to Council.
Ms. Bergdall stated that the goal is to develop a plan to recommend to Council, which would
include how large the park will be and suggest amenities. It would be a comprehensive plan,
which would be necessary to schedule on the C.I.P.
Mr. Yoder stated that his understanding was that the equation for the park had already been
written by Council and staff. However, if this has not been done, is that also part of this Task
Force's charge? He noted that two less- stated components of this formula are: (1)
accommodation of community events; and (2) land set aside for presently unknown needs. Is it
the intention that this be a true center for the community? What types of activities are projected
for community participation? Is the intent for a gathering space only, or should other options be
made available — canoeing, nature trails, agriculture, or sports? A "game plan" is missing.
Ms. Salay stated that Council's decision to form this Task Force indicates the intent to move the
park forward. The history, viewpoint of the residents, and a proposed plan for the area north and
south of Post Road are all available as a starting point for discussion. Already indicated are a
civic center, a city hall, and a linear park out to the Metropark. The need now is to actually plan
the park and schedule the construction/development.
Mr. Blosser stated that maps already developed suggest many options. There is the need to
clarify, however, if the park will be passive in nature.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it would not be beneficial to recommend a framework so general in
nature that it accomplishes little.
Mr. Blosser suggested that the discussion on park elements continue at the next meeting, when
maps and visuals are available, so that everyone is on the "same page."
Mr. Yoder suggested the use of flyers requesting public comment, a method used successfully by
the Southwest Traffic Task Force, to determine the residents' concerns.
Ms. Salay stated that there are 40 -50 homes on the north side of the park area that abut this land,
such as Indian Run Meadows, and they also have an interest. This is not just a Post Road
initiative.
Mr. Blosser moved to have all the residents and property owners notified by flyer distribution of
the meeting schedule and extend an invitation to them to participate in the process. The notice of
meeting schedule would also include a questionnaire /comment area and a small map of the study
area. He stated that the local papers could run a copy of the meeting schedule and it should also
be posted at the City's website.
Mr. Eastep stated that he would amend the motion to specify that the public invitation for
participation not occur until after two or three meetings of the Task Force have taken place. He
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has concerns about presenting this to the public too early. The guidelines for the Task Force
must first be established. Maybe two or three meetings down the road this issue can be
discussed. Also, opening this for public discussion too soon would take the Task Force's time,
hindering its ability to accomplish their task. He suggested limiting the public comments to five
minutes each at the end of the meeting.
Mr. Cline agreed. A list of ideas has not been formulated yet, regarding which input from
residents would be obtained.
Mr. Blosser restated the motion that public notification be made that a Task Force of Council is
considering the possible expansion of Coffman Park; that a notice be posted on the City's
website with the dates of the meetings; that an agenda item for the third or fourth meeting is to
craft a questiomiaire to be mailed out at a later date inviting the community's input.
Mr. Eastep seconded the motion.
The motion was carried unanimously.
Mr. Yoder inquired if all the necessary parties are represented. Are all the divergent views
present at the table? With the Southwest Traffic Task Force, one or two additional members
were later added to the Task Force to allow representation of all views.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that the Task Force membership is deliberately skewed towards the
needs of the immediately affected residents. However, Council members retain a wide focus on
the needs of the entire community. In the end, there should be a consensus of the entire group.
Ms. Salay suggested that, if necessary, additional representatives can be added to the group
midway.
Mr. Yoder stated that it is desirable to have any opposing viewpoints from the outset.
Mr. Blosser stated that it is better to set up the framework for the issue first, then open the issue,
as defined, to public comment.
Mr. Yoder stated that it would be desirable to know what Mr. Hahn's viewpoint is from the parks
perspective. He suggested that Mr. Hahn be invited to attend the next meeting to give history on
the subject and to present a vision from staff's perspective. He inquired if it would be beneficial
to have him attend all the meetings, or to serve as an ex officio member of the Task Force.
Mr. Blosser stated that there would be no need to appoint him as a member of the Task Force,
but inviting him to share his extensive knowledge would be a good idea.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Mr. Hahn would be a valuable resource. He has extensive and up -to-
date knowledge on the subject. He would be aware of options that the Task Force is not aware
of, but he would not push for any particular agenda.
Mr. Cline agreed that the Task Force cannot move forward without staff s knowledge and input.
Mr. Eastep stated that the Task Force is not aware of any recent citizen comments that could be
pertinent. As head of that department, Mr. Hahn hears from the residents on a regular basis. He
would be an asset from that perspective, also.
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Mr. Kranstuber stated that it would be advisable to have Mr. Hahn attend all the Task Force
meetings.
Mr. Cline stated that it is necessary to have ideas. Due to his many resources, Mr. Hahn could
provide new ideas, new possibilities for a park.
Mr. Yoder suggested that he be asked to recommend a wish list for the park.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Mr. Hahn would also have contacts for professionals outside the
Columbus area. He would like to make the scope of options national.
Mr. Yoder stated that he would like to have the opportunity to prepare for the next meeting and
requested packets of the requested information be provided before the meeting. Could Mr. Hahn
also provide some preliminary information?
Ms. Salay suggested that the Task Force walk the study area. The members could meet at the
Recreation Center, and walk the Post Road side and park side, as well.
Mr. Kranstuber asked if it would be possible to have the large -scale visuals available for the next
meeting.
Mr. Ciaraochi stated that lie would check with the GIS staff. He will provide large -scale maps of
the area for the next meeting, and if necessary, will follow up with better maps for the following
meeting.
Mr. Blosser requested that the PRAC recommendation which was presented to Council also be
provided, with the colored maps enlarged as much as possible.
Mr. Eastep inquired if Mr. Cline's concern about selling his property to the City is the fact that
he believes he could receive a greater profit from it as a developer. He inquired if the City were
to give Mr. Cline the same price as a developer, or that he would make from developing it
himself, would he be interested?
Mr. Cline responded that the issue for him is not about development. It is his home. He does not
understand why a park concept cannot work well with the existing residents.
Mr. Eastep stated that he doesn't want any resident to feel threatened; he is just clarifying the
subject, so everyone is of the same understanding.
Ms. Salay stated that the current problem is that the property owners under existing zoning have
several options for their land. For instance, Mr. Kinman could build 5 -6 homes on his land
without going through Planning Commission review. The City has tried to negotiate a purchase
price with the property owner, but the parties are currently at an impasse.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that, although the short term goal could be to terminate Post Road,
eliminate the Community Relations building, etc., and make the area pleasant to the current
property owners, ultimately, the City's plan could be to acquire the land.
Mr. Cline stated that if a map exists that indicates this is the plan, then a realtor must disclose
that plan if the property owner lists his house for sale. The end result is that the City is the only
buyer.
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Mr. Kranstuber responded that would not be a problem if the policy were to compensate at
whatever the fair market value would be.
Discussion continued.
Mr. Kranstuber encouraged new members of the Task Force to contact Mr. Ciarochi, Ms. Clarke,
or Mr. Hahn and request time to meet with them and ask questions.
Mr. Cline inquired what the City projects as the space needs in a new City Hall.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that a rough estimate is 80,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Blosser invited public comment.
Dean Eberhard, Fallen Timbers Drive stated that he has been a life -long resident of Dublin, 15
years at his present address. He noted that one of the first public meetings he attended was
when the Halloran property was being reviewed by Planning Commission. At that time, the
concept/focus was that the entire creek line and basin area would be reserved as a flood plain or
greenspace. He inquired about the location of the future Metro Park and the timeframe for
construction of the third high school.
Mr. Blosser responded that the Metro Park is not within Dublin's boundaries, but there will be a
bikepath link to it.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the purchase of the Thomas farmland is a very high priority. At
$150,000 /acre, however, that is not even conceptual tonight.
Mr. Blosser encouraged the residents to take their ideas to PRAC — PRAC seeks out this type of
input.
Dr. Partarunjit Butalia, 6867 Conquistador Ct., stated that he moved to Dublin two years ago.
He believes the suggestion for public notification of property owners is good, but he would also
encourage notification of the homeowners association. He stated that a notice was sent out by
Council requesting volunteers to serve on the Coffman Park Task Force. How was the selection
of members made?
Mr. Kranstuber responded that the Task Force composition is three of the affected property
owners, two Council members, a PRAC member and two members of the public at large. The
discussion of candidates took place in executive session, although the formal decision was made
in public session.
Mr. Butalia inquired if qualifications were requested or required.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there was no formal interview process. Council had just completed a
lengthy interview process for appointments to the Boards and Commissions, so no interviews
were scheduled for this position. In this case, the appointment was made due to geographical
representation. Ms. Neffenger was selected, for instance, as a representative for citizens from the
north side of the park area.
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Mr. Blosser thanked Mr. Butalia for his input. Representatives from the northern homeowner
associations would be notified of the next meeting. Ms. Bergdall noted that she will make the
president of her homeowner association aware of the Task Force meetings.
Joe Pelleuini, 6970 Harin ton Ct ., stated that he has been a member of the community for 13
years. His property abuts the Kinman property. He stated that the goal and baseline of this issue
is unclear. What will the land use be? Is there the potential that a City maintenance depot could
be located in this area?
Following brief discussion, the next meeting of the Task Force was scheduled for Monday, April
29 at 7:00 p.m. Task force members will meet at City Hall and take a walking tour of the study
area, up to the Halloran property and ending at Avery Road. A City van will be available to drop
them off at the desired location, pick them up at Avery Road, and return the group to City Hall to
resume the regular meeting.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
Submitted by:
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Assistant OerkOf Council
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Monday, April 29, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of 4 -16 -02 Minutes
IV. Walking Tour of Coffman Park Study Area
V. Regular Meeting
• Opening Remarks of Chair
• Background on PRAC Proposal — Fred Hahn
• Round Table Discussion
VI. Next Meeting Date
VII. Adjourn
Packet Items:
- Draft Minutes of Coffrnan Park Expansion Task Force Meeting, 4 -16 -02
- Aerial of Coffinan Park Study Area
- PRAC Coffman Park Expansion Proposal, 2 -14 -02
- Community Plan Maps
- Post Road Traffic Study, 2- 23 -97, by Barton- Aschman Assoc.
- Dublin City Council Minutes, Excerpts
- Post Road Committee Notes/Policy
- List of Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Members
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
April 29, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Task Force Members
Chuck Kranstuber
Amy Salay
Keith Blosser
Roger Eastep
Bill Yoder
Kay Neffenger
Absent:
Chris Cline
Valerie Bergdall
Present
Staff:
Marsha Grigsby
Frank Ciarocbi
Fred Hahn
Bobbie Clarke
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Ms. Salay noted that the minutes referred to a request for the Karlsberger study that was done on
the Coffinan Park expansion area. That study was not included in the packet.
Ms. Clarke stated that Mr. Kranstuber had indicated that the study was so old that it had been
superseded by other documents. Therefore, staff did not prepare copies for the packet.
However, copies of that study are available this evening. In addition, staff received a request for
minutes on the P & Z hearings for the Homestead Communities -- the approved preliminary
development plan and the disapproved final development plan. This is a residential project to be
located on the south side of Post Road. Ms. Clarke distributed copies of the P & Z meeting
minutes and the Karlsberger study.
Mr. Blosser moved to approve the minutes of the April 16 meeting as submitted.
Mr. Eastep seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion 6 -0
Mr. Blosser stated that the next item on the agenda is a walk - through of the Coffinan Park study
area. The meeting will be temporarily adjourned and reconvened upon completion of the tour.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 8:35 p.m.
Mr. Blosser thanked Mr. Hahn for guiding the tour and invited Mr. Hahn to provide background
on the park planning process to date.
Mr. Hahn stated that it has been a long -term goal of the community to protect and enhance the
stream corridors, and when possible, to make them the pedestrian bikeway corridor. A
significant amount of land was donated on the south bend of Post Road through the open space
ordinance during the `80's, and at that time, a portion of the bikepath was installed. The
bikepath went through the Indian Run Park and stopped at the municipal building on Coffman
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bikepath went through the Indian Run Park and stopped at the municipal building on Coffinan
Road. A few years ago, the City had the opportunity to purchase the Farrell property, where the
Community Relations Division is presently located, and the back acreage of the Nyrop property.
The purchase of those properties enabled the City to extend the bikepath further east, bringing it
to the Coffman Park area. The City was also able to purchase the Halloran property, and another
area was identified as a desirable site for location of a new municipal building. As those events
occurred, the idea of a large park, geographically centered within the City, developed, and
subsequently, a formal proposal was presented to Council to purchase additional properties on
Post Road with the idea of developing the municipal park area. Council approved the policy, and
using the Halloran property as the western -most boundary, directed staff to proceed with the
purchase of the Post Road properties from willing sellers. Council also directed staff to develop .
a concept plan for the site. Staff developed a concept plan, which was presented to Council.
Council referred the plan to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Council in 2001 for further study,
and also established the Post Road Committee, made up of Council, staff, and Post Road
residents. The Committee was formed to hear any concems that Post Road residents might have
regarding the City's plan. Subsequently, the policy not to use the right of eminent domain but to
purchase the Post Road properties only from willing sellers was formally adopted by Council.
Early this year, PRAC reported to Council with an endorsement of the plan and the reasons for
that endorsement. Most recently, Council decided to form this Task Force to address any current
issues with the Coffinan Park Expansion plan.
Mr. Yoder inquired if the Coffman Park idea originated with the hidian Run dedication.
Ms. Clarke responded that the idea pre -dated that occurrence. In the early years, the City did not
have a Planning Department, and the firm, which is presently known as NBBJ, provided a
plainer on a consulting basis for the City. They were contracted to conduct four quadrant
studies. The one from which most of the City's parkland ideas have come was the Northwest
Quad study. That study was completed soon after the Muirfield area was zoned, in the early
70's. The study identified the need for more north - south, east -west roads and advocated the
extension of Muirfield Drive south from Brand Road. Regarding parkland strategy, it identified
the north and south forks of Indian Run as the backbone of a parkland acquisition program.
Early on, there was a parkland dedication requirement. The City acquired the first piece of
Coffinan Park in half through a parkland dedication by Weiler and Kelly with the Hemingway
and Shannon Park developments. The other half was purchased at cost from the developers. The
City's goal to acquire the stream beds and creeks was two -fold: (1) for the acquisition of
parkland, and (2) in response to Dublin's decision that it did not want to pursue a stormwater
encasement project. The Village did not want to pipe all its streams. Dublin made a conscious
decision in the early days to maintain the natural streams as the open drainage corridors, keeping
them as much as possible in their natural state. Records indicate that Coffinan Park was created
in 1978. At Indian Run Meadows on the other end, the bulk of the parkland was acquired from
the lower tier along Indian Run. After that parkland was acquired, the development of
Dublinshire, Dublinshire West, Hemingway, and Hemingway West occurred. Gradually, Dublin
has developed amazing linear parkland. At that time, the federal government and the parks and
recreation industry had not begun to advocate linear parks. In the last 5 -8 years, that has been
defined as the goal for parklands. Although it was not a formalized policy of the City,
consecutive decisions throughout the years pursued a consistent philosophy.
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Mr. Blosser inquired if a plan for expansion of the Coffman Park was formalized in the
Community Plan,
Ms. Clarke stated that in developing the Community Plan, a physical assessment of City facilities
was conducted. At the same time, a consultant was hired to determine, how big City Hall would
need to be when the City was built out, and where it should be. Various locations were
considered. It was the general consensus that it should be at the center of town, and the Coffman
Park area was identified as the future site for a new City Hall.
Mr. Yoder asked for clarification of the park's purpose. What is it supposed to achieve for the
City. Is it to be an enviromnental education area? It is necessary to define the park's purpose
before it can be determined how it will interface with the characteristics of Post Road.
Ms. Clarke stated that from the staff's perspective, there has been concern that Coffman Park
would be filled up with "stuff'-- buildings and parking lots, and no park area would remain.
Two consultants were hired to do a short study on which land should be purchased for a City
Hall. The consultants indicated that Dublin has the opportunity to do the same thing in the
middle of a small city that New York did in a large city -- to define itself for all generations.
They developed a concept plan, which indicated which areas should remain as open space.
Space study analysis indicated that it would take 8 acres for a City Hall, and it would take 12
acres to make City Hall appear to belong in the park. In looking at potential City Hall locations,
A series of overlays were done. Ms. Clarke displayed drawings of the concept plan and of City -
owned versus privately -owned properties on Post Road.
Mr. Blosser inquired what promises have been made to Post Road residents.
Ms. Salay stated that the City has always tried to find a way to de- emphasize Post Road. For
instance, there are not turn lanes at the Avery- Muirfield and Post Road intersection. There was
discussion at one time of cul- de- lacing Post Road on the west side of Avery- Muirfield, but that
did not occur due to the traffic generated by the Recreation Center and the fact that Perimeter
was not yet completed.
Discussion continued regarding the traffic needs of Post Road and the immediately surrounding
area.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that it has been indicated to him that the City has considered continuing the
median along Avery- Muirfield, as opposed to cul- de- sacing Post Road.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that if the road were to be closed, there wouldn't be access to the
Recreation Center.
Ms. Salay noted that the new offices on the southeast corner of Post Road would have a difficult
access. She suggested that Post Road could be interrupted further east from that point, near the
municipal park area.
Discussion continued regarding the issues involved with interrupting Post Road to eliminate the
Perspective of a through street, reconfiguring the road to a park drive.
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Mr. Yoder suggested re- hiring Doyle Clear to determine if the roads would work, if reconfigured
as suggested.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it is important to remember that the purpose of this park is to create an
identity through nature for the City. There is too much "active" parkland in the Coffman Park
area already. It is necessary to define "how big" the park should be. He inquired if there is a
consulting firm that could provide both the skills of a traffic engineer and a park planner.
Mr. Yoder suggested that perhaps the City could hire one firm to do the planning, and Doyle
Clear to conduct the traffic study. With Mr. Clear's history with the City, he has a good grasp on
its needs and most of the City data is already on his computer.
Ms. Salay inquired what space study for a new City Hall has been done to date.
Mr. Hahn stated that in 1997, the space needs of a new City Hall were re- evaluated.
Ms. Clarke stated that the 1997 assessment indicated that the size of a new municipal building
should be approximately 80,000 square feet.
Mr. Blosser stated that the problem is the site is only proposed. It has not been formalized in any
way.
Mr. Yoder stated that traffic would define the location.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that traffic should not drive that decision, because ideally, traffic will
not flow through there.
Ms. Salay agreed that traffic should not drive the issues, yet, traffic cannot be forced out of an
area without careful planning or a problem will be caused elsewhere. Ideally, Post Road would
become the road taken to get to City Hall. "There are two issues for this Task Force to decide:
(1) decisions regarding the Post Road system, (2) where the new City Hall will be sited.
Mr. Yoder stated that it is important to get the community "buy in," before approaching City
Council.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that lay people are not qualified to determine these issues. He suggested a
consultant be hired to discuss these issues with the Task Force
Ms. Salay stated that these studies have already been done. It is not desirable to "re- create the
wheel."
Ms. Clarke stated that four years have passed since the last study was done on this issue. This
would be a good time to take another look at the site for a new City Hall.
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force began with a narrow focus, but that appears to be
widening with discussion of Coffinan Park expansion plans, facility needs, and City Hall site
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identification. The Task Force is not qualified to handle these studies; outside expertise is
needed. Mr. Blosser suggested providing the consultants with the same information that has been
provided to the Task Force. The consultants can do the studies and present the Task Force with
three or four options.
Ms. Neffenger stated that the new City Hall seems to be the center of the focus, therefore, the
planning should begin with City Mall and extend from there.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the plan would also include ideas for how the current City Hall would
be used after the new City Hall is constructed.
Ms. Clarke inquired when the new City Hall is programmed in the CIP.
Ms. Grigsby stated that the master planning is planned for 2005, design in 2006, but no
construction date is in place.
Mr. Yoder stated that it would be beneficial to accumulate all the planning done to date on t he
subject to provide to a consultant.
Ms. Clarke stated that the most economical plan would be to bring back the same group that
worked on this plan previously.
Mr. Yoder stated that Mr. Cline has mentioned the Karlsberger proposal. He is interested in
what that study suggested.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that, other than for the purpose of history, the plan is irrelevant. Five
years is forever in Dublin, and there have been significant changes in Dublin that would alter the
whole concept for the plan.
Ms. Clarke stated that the Karlsberger study would show the plan that was developed when
Dublin was a village.
Mr. Eastep stated that several items proposed tonight have already been done, one of which was
the design for the Emerald Parkway commercial corridor and Emerald Parkway bridge. That
was all designed, including the Coffinan Park municipal area at the growth capacity of 10,000
square feet per acre. All of the traffic studies have been completed; there is no reason to hire
traffic consultants to do it again. With all of that information, the obvious location for City Hall
was decided. It is unnecessary to undertake another three -year plan. A few residents have
simply asked that they be eliminated from the Coffman Park plan. That should not be difficult tc
do. A few other residents have inquired the City's intent for the land adjacent to them. This
Task Force has only been charged with the duty of looking at the park plan for the Coffman Park
area. The City Hall site has already been identified, and everyone is in consensus that the
surrounding parkland should be passive. At this point, all that is necessary is to eliminate those
property owners from the plan, as they have requested, confirm the desire is to develop this as
passive parkland, and refer the plan back to City Council. Then, at that point, it would be
appropriate for City Council to hire a consultant to further develop the plan. It is not the Task
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Force's responsibility to commit City money for hiring a consultant. This discussion is making
the project much larger than Council's charge to the Task Force.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if, assuming the City will be able to purchase the Thomas property for
the City Hall site, is the suggestion to build around the Cline and Costello properties.
Mr. Eastep stated that would be the next step. That is Mr. Cline's biggest complaint — that the
City is indicating his land is future parkland.
Ms. Salay stated if the Cline property is taken off the plan, the City can look at the narrow strip
the City owns next to the Kinman property to provide bikepath access up to Post Road, and
perhaps running the bikepath along Post Road on the Cline property, if they agree. From there, a
loop trail can provide accessibility through Coffinan Park. One of the issues she has with the
present plan, is that it provides for excessive parking. Parking is indicated on both sides of the
Costello property. That parking can be removed, and be provided more centrally, perhaps on the
Halloran property. She agreed with Mr. Eastep that the discussion has taken on larger
proportions than intended.
Mr. Eastep said that he agreed to the job Council assigned the Task Force, and that was not to re-
think City Hall. 'That design is not slated to begin until 2005. It is inappropriate for this Task
Force to hire a consultant to work on that now.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the question of cul- de- sating or vacating Post Road is appropriate for
this Task Force's study.
Mr. Eastep stated that it is necessary to determine how important the personal interests of these
few residents are. Sometimes, it is necessary that a few suffer for the greater good of the
community. That might not be the case here, but it is necessary to decide if the number of
residents impacted by the traffic is sufficient to warrant the issue being reviewed now. Perhaps it
is possible to save that issue for the 2005 planning and design, also. Let the land planners and
engineers address that issue when they design City Hall.
Mr. Blosser stated that much of the discussion would be simplified if the location of City Hall
were actually confirmed.
Ms. Salay stated that the consensus was not to hide City Hall, to take advantage of the valuable
commercial land that the City had purchased and locate City Hall in the highly visible area at the
junction of Post Road and Emerald Parkway.
Mr. Kranstubcr stated that the siting of City Hall does not drive the whole park plan.
Mr. Blosser responded that it would if that is where the road would be cul- de- sae'd.
Ms. Salay stated that cul- de- sating is not the correct terminology. The suggestion is to reduce
Post Road to a park road through the municipal campus. The road would return to Emerald
Parkway. It would just be interrupted as a major east -west through street.
April 29, 2002 MINUTES OF THE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 7
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Council would be satisfied with a plan that works for the residents and
with the overall park plan, with City Hall generally placed at location "X."
Mr. Eastep stated that to the public, selection of the site is important now. There is some
misinformation that the City intends to locate the new City Hall on the Kinman property.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that some of the issues need to be addressed with this plan, in a give and
take resolution, for instance: what will be done with the building Community Relations now
occupies, commitments to the residents regarding the Kinman property, and cul de sacing of the
road.
Mr. Eastep responded that it would be advisable to defer the cul de sac issue until the 2005
design. Mr. Eastep stated that the City Hall issue is considered from a zoning standpoint,
looking at the parcels. City Hall would be considered a business use, and a business use would
not be placed upon the residents in a park area. The City has received complaints about placing
the Recreation Center so close to a residential area, and the City would not want to make this
mistake again. Therefore, City Hall must be placed in the commercial corridor, which is
designed for commercial office space. Let the professional planners plan it when it is scheduled
in the C.I.P. The passive parkland doesn't need to be planned any further at this time. A couple
of bikepaths could be scheduled in the C.I.P. Other than that, Coffman Park area has three
segments: active parkland, passive parkland, and business use (City Hall).
Mr. Kranstuber noted that there has been some disagreement on whether the City should buy any
more land for this park.
Ms. Salay inquired as to the amount of land needed for Coffman Park. Is it essential to have the
Cline and Costello properties to make this park work? Does the City need all the land that it now
has?
Mr. Blosser stated that question is already answered. Council has established a policy to buy the
land in that defined area as it becomes available. He added that the question, however, that does
need to be answered is how the City wants to respond to Mr. Cline's request that his property be
removed from the defined area. Can't that be done? It wouldn't change Council's policy.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Mr. Cline's property is not in the defined area.
Mr. Eastep stated that Mr. Cline does not want his property defined as desirable future City
parkland.
Ms. Salay stated that a realtor must disclose to potential buyers the fact that a property is
earmarked on several City planning documents or maps as desirable parkland.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the suggestion is to build around the property.
Mr. Eastep responded that the intent is to keep all that as passive parkland. Nothing will be built
around the Cline property. The City maps can show the property as privately -owned land.
April 29, 2002 MINUTES OF'I'HE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 8
Ms. Salay stated that this passive parkland would become an amenity to all the property owners
in that area.
Mr. Blosser stated that it would increase the value of their properties, rather than diminish it.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that if, however, those properties are important to make the plan work, we
can't abdicate our responsibility to 30,000 residents in the interest of three residents.
Mr. Eastep stated that the City might not actually need the land, since that area of the park is
passive, just as the City doesn't need Shawan Falls or Donegal Cliffs. However the parkland is
what identifies Dublin. It is the #1 reason people leave Upper Arlington to come to Dublin. If
the City can acquire parkland now so that six houses are not built on it, it should do so, in
particular if it is the corridor of a streambed. There is usually a one -time opportunity to buy the
land, and the City must be ready to do so.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it may be possible to remove the Cline property from the plan, but he
believes it is not possible to do the same with the Costello property, which will be in the nucleus
of the park area. In his opinion, the responsible action for City Council in the interest of
30,0004- Dublin residents is to acquire the properties as quickly as possible, particularly the
Thomas and Costello properties. The park does not work without them.
Mr. Blosser stated that it would remain the City's policy to acquire them, when available. Those
properties would just not be identified on any plans /maps the City has.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired what recourse is left to the City, if the Kinman property is then sold to
UDF tomorrow.
Mr. Eastep suggested that the City spend the necessary money to acquire the property
immediately. The value of the land cannot be overestimated. One the land is gone, it's gone.
Buy it now.
Mr. Kranstuber agreed. He stated that his vision for this Task Force is that it would design a
park, to be constructed in phases, that recognizes the residents who want to stay there, but also
recognizes the City's intent to build this as a park. The City doesn't know with whom Mrs.
Thomas and Mr. Cline may decide to negotiate tomorrow.
Ms. Salay stated her concern is the only developable piece in this area, the Kinman property.
Mr. Eastep stated that is the reason it is important to buy the Kinman property today. It would
indicate to the citizens how serious the City is about acquiring the parkland.
Ms. Salay responded that in raising the question of how much is appropriate for the City to pay
per acre for passive open space, is it appropriate for the City to pay commercial prices --
$250,000 to $500,00 /acre for passive open space, for land which will only sit there?
Mr. Yoder stated that perhaps all that is needed is a scenic easement on all of these properties
April 29, 2002 MINUTES OF TIIF COITMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 9
Ms. Salay agreed that because the stream corridor is so heavily forested, those houses are not
noticeable.
Mr. K xanstuber disagreed, saying that he sees that area as the center of the park, and if the road
were removed, as has been discussed, there would be no access for the homes. The only way it
can continue to work for those residents is to leave the road there, which appears not to be our
intent.
Ms. Salay stated that Post Road would become a park road, and one branch could lead to City
Hall, another fork could provide access to those homes. If the City owns the Thomas property,
it can configure the roads in any way necessary — to the Justice Center, to the Recreation Center,
and to the municipal campus.
Ms. Neffenger inquired as to the cost for both parcels of the Kinman property.
She was informed it was $600,000.
Mr. Kranstuber stated it is a large area — six or seven acres.
Mr. Blosser stated that does not seem unreasonable.
Ms. Neffenger inquired if this is the property most needed to make the park area work?
Ms. Salay stated that is the one that is of the greatest concern, because it is the only developable
piece. It has an R -1 zoning.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that last year the Post Road Committee gave the current residents the option
of the City leaving the houses on the land recently purchased by the City; they could have been
leased out. However, the remaining Post Road residents indicated that they preferred that the
houses be removed. Those houses have not been torn down yet, because the acquisition
agreement provided that the past homeowner could remain in the home for a certain number of
months. The remaining property owners did agree that the Nyrop property might work as an
environmental center and Dantzer farm site might be wise to preserve. The other homes are to
be removed as soon as practicable.
Ms. Salay stated that it is important that the Cline and Costello properties are taken out of the
plan /map to protect them in the future. The present Council has followed the policy of
compensating the property owners well as it is this Council's intent to provide them with
financial gain and a comfort level as they move on. However, in future years, another Council
will be in place. If the City has the ability to name its price, the property owners may not be
treated as fairly as they would be today. In addition, if any municipal uses were put on the
adjoining lots, that would further detract the value and enjoyment of their land. This group needs
to take steps to protect those homeowners.
Ms. Clarke stated that Metro Parks does not put on their maps that an area has been designated as
a prime acquisition. As they are putting together massive amount of parkland, they leave
pockets of privately owned areas intact.
April 29, 2002 MINUTES OF THE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 10
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the property owners could not have it both ways. They can't refuse to
sell, and ask for all the considerations to maintain their comfort level, yet give nothing to the
City in return. The City should be willing to add considerations to enhance the quality of their
lives with the understanding that in the future, no matter how distant, the land would be sold to
the City. An agreement now could address the questions about market value and other financial
considerations. They could ask for a compensation for the option. He believes that the right
agreement would protect both the property owner's and the City's interest.
Mr. Yoder asked if it would be a negative to leave the Costello property privately owned.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that it would be impossible to eliminate the road. The City would end
up with the commercial area where City Hall would be located and then Coffman Park. The area
going up to Avery Road does not enhance the park that much. It is the area close to the
municipal area that is critical.
Mr. Blosser invited public comment.
Laura Maximoviteh 5694 Adventure Drive president, Hemingway Village homeowners
association, stated that the residents on Tara Hill have traffic issues, and they are interested in
any decisions that may affect that situation.
The next meeting of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force is scheduled for Monday, May 13,
at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 10:25 p.m.
Submitted by:
i
Assistant Plerkul Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, May 13, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
H. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of April 29, 2002 Meeting
IV. Staff Comments
V. Regular Meeting
• Mr. Yoder's Concept Plan
• Disposition of Houses in Park Area.
• Park Programming Issues
VI. Public Comments
VII Next meeting date
VIII. Adjourn
Packet Items
- Draft Minutes of Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Meeting, 5 -13 -02
- Mr. Yoder's Coffman Park Expansion Concept Plan (sent previously)
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
May 13, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Mr. Yoder, Acting Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Ms. Salay moved to approve the minutes of the April 29, 2002 meeting as submitted.
Mr. Kranstuber seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion 6 — 0 approved.
Mr. Yoder stated that at the last meeting there was not a consensus on either the issue to be
solved or on methods of resolution. He suggested that tonight's discussion focus on a solution,
which he would like to submit for discussion purposes. After identifying the areas on which
there is agreement among the Task Force members, it may be possible to work backwards to
clarify the issue and identify methods of resolution. Mr. Yoder displayed a schematic of his
proposal for the Coffman Park expansion.
Mr. Yoder stated that his preliminary study of the Coffman Park expansion area demonstrates
how the different aspects and interests concerned with the park expansion could be addressed.
The first issue is to identify what impact the park would have on area traffic. One of the most
important issues to City residents is easy access to the current and future facilities, which they
are helping to finance. He stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Kranstuber emphasized the need to
reconfigure Post Road traffic and remove a segment of Post Road to allow for the park
expansion. Although this is not indicated in the Community Plan, and past traffic studies have
indicated not segmenting Post Road, it does make sense.
Mr. Yoder stated that in developing his plan, he studied several road alterations, and the roadway
alteration which shows the most promise has been included with his proposal. With that, Post
Road would be made into a much slower, residential /park road, which would include traffic
calming features. With the character of the traffic changed, Post Road could then be re- routed to
connect into the existing Coffman Park Drive by means of a short connector road just east of
Commerce Parkway. Post Road would primarily provide access to the Recreation Center and
park area. The existing bridge entry drive to the Recreation Center would be used as a
connection to the new City Hall and south park area.
Present
Task Force Members
Staff:
Chuck Kranstuber
Frank Ciarochi
Amy Salay
Fred Hahn
Chris Cline
Bobbie Clarke
Valerie Bergdall
Bill Yoder
Kay Neffenger
Absent:
Keith Blosser
Roger Eastep
Mr. Yoder, Acting Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Ms. Salay moved to approve the minutes of the April 29, 2002 meeting as submitted.
Mr. Kranstuber seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion 6 — 0 approved.
Mr. Yoder stated that at the last meeting there was not a consensus on either the issue to be
solved or on methods of resolution. He suggested that tonight's discussion focus on a solution,
which he would like to submit for discussion purposes. After identifying the areas on which
there is agreement among the Task Force members, it may be possible to work backwards to
clarify the issue and identify methods of resolution. Mr. Yoder displayed a schematic of his
proposal for the Coffman Park expansion.
Mr. Yoder stated that his preliminary study of the Coffman Park expansion area demonstrates
how the different aspects and interests concerned with the park expansion could be addressed.
The first issue is to identify what impact the park would have on area traffic. One of the most
important issues to City residents is easy access to the current and future facilities, which they
are helping to finance. He stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Kranstuber emphasized the need to
reconfigure Post Road traffic and remove a segment of Post Road to allow for the park
expansion. Although this is not indicated in the Community Plan, and past traffic studies have
indicated not segmenting Post Road, it does make sense.
Mr. Yoder stated that in developing his plan, he studied several road alterations, and the roadway
alteration which shows the most promise has been included with his proposal. With that, Post
Road would be made into a much slower, residential /park road, which would include traffic
calming features. With the character of the traffic changed, Post Road could then be re- routed to
connect into the existing Coffman Park Drive by means of a short connector road just east of
Commerce Parkway. Post Road would primarily provide access to the Recreation Center and
park area. The existing bridge entry drive to the Recreation Center would be used as a
connection to the new City Hall and south park area.
May 13, 2002 MINUTES OP THE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORcF, Page 2
Mr. Yoder suggested possible traffic calming features for Post Road: (1) road curves and
landscaping to eliminate the long stretches of straight roadway, which suggest opportunity to
speed; (2) installation of a road diversion on Metatec Boulevard to re -route through traffic to
Perimeter Drive; (3) installation of stop signs at three critical intersections; (4) installation of
raised crosswalks at pedestrian street crossings; and (5) encouragement of developer
enhancements along the south side of Post Road to reinforce the park character of the roadway.
With the addition of those features, much of the traffic would be diverted to Perimeter Drive,
where the roadway can be configured to handle the additional traffic. Improvements to Perimeter
Drive may be necessary, such as road widening and a possible road extension to connect Post
Road directly into Perimeter. It would be important to ensure that some of the re- routed traffic
did not move to Tara Hill. He suggested that chicanes could be installed in that area. However,
these issues would be studied by a traffic consultant before the park is developed.
Mr. Yoder stated that his plan addresses the entire area from Avery Road to Coffman Road. The
park area to the west of the Recreation Center remains primarily as it was indicated on the
consultant's earlier plan. It was found that the linear park could function well if a strip of land
on the south side of Indian Run stream could be obtained from the Cline property and on the
north side from the other residential properties along Post Road near the Recreation Center.
Purchasing portions of those properties and installing deed restrictions to control what is left
could provide three additional positive effects: (1) residents left living in the park would act as
sentries to help protect and keep the park a safe place; (2) it would be a cost savings; and (3) it
would remove controversy and facilitate the project. He indicated on the plan what portions of
the residential properties would be necessary to develop the linear park.
He noted that in regard to the development of the central and southern park areas, several
changes in the previous plan are suggested due to staff's recommendation of approximately
twelve acres for the new City Hall facility. The south park location near the Justice Center is too
small, as is the center park area, as indicated on the consultant's original plan. However, the size
of the central park area could be enlarged to place the 12 -acre complex within the 30+ acres of
the central park area. Removing a section of Post Road would increase the possibilities for this
location. His plan suggests placing City Hall as a center focus for Post and Emerald Parkway.
At this location, the building would provide the hub connection between the Justice Center in the
south park area, the Recreation Center in the north park area, and the existing facilities in the east
park area. It may be possible that the southeastern eight -acre parcel would not be required and
could be sold back to the private sector with deed restrictions to ensure quality development.
This is a valuable piece of property; if sold, it would significantly reduce the cost of the
municipal park development.
Mr. Yoder stated that the City Hall building would be approximately 80,000 square feet. The
remainder of the site is parking and greenspace.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he would prefer that the overall park plan dictate plans for City Hall,
not the reverse. For instance, he does not consider it essential that the City Hall building
accommodate all 933 anticipated future City employees. It is more important that the size of the
building be appropriate for the site.
Mr. Yoder suggested that the necessary studies be done now to facilitate the planning. He
believes the traffic study is the next step.
May 13, 2002 MINUTES OF THE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 3
Mr. Cline stated that the previous traffic study indicates approximately 700 vehicles visiting the
City Recreation Center each morning. The idea that Post Road turn into a feeder for the
municipal complex is reasonable. He believes the idea of transitioning Post Road into Perimeter
makes sense. He inquired if a four -way connection with Post and Perimeter was previously
considered.
Ms. Clarke responded that she does not recall any proposal similar to Mr. Yoder's.
Mr. Yoder suggested the following phases: (1) Buy the Thomas and the Kinman properties;
(2) Buy portions of the Cline, Nyrop and Costello properties and obtain scenic deed easements
on the remaining properties; (3) Split off and retain a portion of the Dantzer, Anderson and
Layman parcels, as needed; (4) Install deed restrictions and sell the remaining properties back to
the public sector; (5) Amend the Thoroughfare Plan and Community Plan to allow this to go
forward; (6) Buy easements to install road system to the west of the Recreation Center; (7)
Require the developer to install the landscape features along Post Road;
Mr. Kranstuber inquired as to the status of the Homestead Community development.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the preliminary development plan was approved but the final
development plan was rejected.
Ms. Clarke noted that there is the possibility that the land could be rezoned as "Office."
Ms. Bergdall noted that the only negative impact from Office use would be that more traffic
would be generated than would occur with residential development. Discussion continued
regarding office versus residential development of this site.
Mr. Yoder continued:
(8) Install traffic calming at Tara Hill;
Discussion continued regarding the traffic issues of Tara Hill.
(9) Abandon identified section of Post Road;
(10) Install the interior park roadway in southern and central park areas;
(11) Install roadway improvements as required at the Post Road extension and the Perimeter
Drive widening, and any intersection improvements necessary at Avery and Perimeter Drive.
(12) Determine whether to sell or keep the eight acres which are not needed.
Mr. Cline stated that he agrees with Mr. Kranstubel's perspective of not developing that site, but
leaving it as greenspace.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the central area will no longer have the symbiosis of a park, if it is
separated by major roads. He stated that because the road would run next to the creek, he does
not support this plan for the road. This plan eliminates the greenspace in the central park area
and replaces it with buildings and roads. He stated that he has always envisioned the creek
running through the center of the park, and he still prefers the earlier plan. This plan sacrifices
too much of the environment.
May 13, 2002 MiNuirrs of rna CorrmnN PARK EXPANSION TASK Foxes. Page 4
Mr. Yoder suggested that a possible use for the Thomas land, if acquired, would be a Thomas
Farm history /education center.
Discussion continued regarding the suggested Post Road alignment.
Ms. Salay stated that she is impressed with the plan. It effectively addresses the various
concerns /interests. With the visual provided, she is better able to grasp the issue and develop
ideas to respond to it. She stated that she likes the east -west Post Road connection and the
central location for City Hall. The parking areas shouldn't take away from the park
environment, if done correctly. She supports leaving the Dantzer home in place.
Mr. Cline, Ms. Bergdall and Ms. Neffenger also expressed general approval of the plan. Mr.
Cline stated that he was not happy with the "football" shaped piece of land, created by the road
re- direction; it is wasted land.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that as indicated by Mr. Ciarochi, an 80,000 -ft building would require
300+ parking places. That is a large amount of blacktopped area. He believes that if City
functions remain somewhat decentralized, then that amount of parking is not needed. It is not
prudent of the City to pay high dollars for valuable parkland, then turn it into a parking lot. In
addition, this plan provides only a very small additional piece of parkland. He had envisioned
City Hall nestled in the corner of the park area, maximizing the amount of greenspace. He
inquired if there is a way to push the road up, maximize the area in the southwest comer, and
then locate City Hall there.
Ms. Clarke suggested the elimination of that new proposed southward extension of Post Road. If
Post Road is gone, the problem, football - shaped piece of land does not exist.
Mr. Hahn responded that the most inefficient use of space is to start the architecture in the
middle of the site and then work out. He agrees with Mr. Kranstuber that it would be desirable
to rearrange the area south of Post Road. Stacking the hardscape and skewing it to the edges
would allow the expansion of the parkland area. It isn't necessary to spread the structures
throughout the acreage. Consolidating them would preserve open space.
Mr. Yoder stated that his view is that a softer look is created by strategically placing the parking
so that it is obscured by landscaping.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he also does not agree with the suggestion of selling back to private
owners the land which the City has already acquired.
Discussion continued regarding decentralization versus centralization of City functions. Staff
indicated that centralization of City functions is desirable. Mr. Ciarochi stated that centralized
offices are more convenient for the public. Mr. Cline stated that the direction of the City has
been that the new City Hall would be the center of City government. He noted that the
Community Plan indicates that "the new City Hall should house those functions responsible for
general administration and financial management development sited in at least 80,000 sq. ft on 8
acres.....a central location in the community with easy access for visitors and convenience to
other buildings is essential."
May 13, 2002 MINUTES OF THE COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCG: Page 5
Following discussion, Mr. Cline moved to request staff to hire a traffic consultant to analyze the
traffic situation of the study area.
Ms. Bergdall seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion Yes - 6 ; No - 0
Discussion continued regarding hiring a land use consultant. Consensus was to defer that action
until the traffic analysis is completed. Subsequently, the Task Force would be better informed
and prepared to give specific direction regarding a land use study.
Mr. Kranstuber expressed the need to clarify the variables and the essentials in the park plan.
Mr. Cline stated that the desire is to maintain the maximum amount of core parkland, and that
can be communicated to the consultants.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired who owns the land on the southern corner of Emerald Parkway and Post
Road.
Mr. Cline responded that Continental Realty owns it.
Ms. Salay added that easy traffic flow is also an essential. She requested that 11" x 17" copies of
Mr. Yoder's plan be made and provided to the Task Force members to allow continued study of
the plan. Other issues to be studied are signage, materials for the roadway.
Mr. Yoder noted that no decision has been made regarding the disposition of the current houses
on the site. That could be scheduled on the next meeting's agenda. He suggested that another
area to explore is the possibility of incorporating nature /farm education in the park
Mr. Cline asked Mr. Hahn about programming ideas for the park.
Mr. Hahn stated the currently underserved component in the City's park program would be the
education aspect. There would be public interest in that component.
Ms. Bergdall stated that it would be helpful to know what the underserved area of the City's
population would be. She noted that the City park program, for instance, provides no programs
for preschoolers. For comparison purposes, Sun Park in Cincinnati is a good example. She also
noted that the current City Hall building would remain available for educational programs.
Mr. Hahn responded that Ms. Heal would be the staff person to respond to programming issues.
Mr. Yoder identified the following goals for the June 10 °i meeting:
- Address and identify solutions for park residents
- Engineering to identify roadway ideas to use along Post Road to increase the park character.
(road surface, landscaping, etc.)
- Engineering to report on traffic study progress
- Uses in the park. He suggested that the City hire the consultant who did the preliminary
design to take the original design and re -do in a larger format.
Task Force consensus was to defer this action until the traffic study is completed.
May 13, 2002 MINUTES OF TT8E COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE Page 6
Mr. Kranstuber requested that the traffic consultant also provide options to eliminate the loop in
the road.
The next meeting of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force is scheduled for Monday, June 10,
at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Yoder adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
Submitted by:
Assistant Clerk of Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, June 10, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of May 13, 2002 Meeting
IV. Staff Comments
V. Regular Meeting
• Staff update on traffic study
• Council update on task force - Mr. Kranstuber, Ms. Salay
• Incorporation of nature /farm /education in park - Ms. Heal
• Staff comments /thoughts on Mr. Yoder's plan
• Disposition of current houses on site
• Incorporation of property owners names into areas of Coffman Park
• Identification of Roadway Ideas to Use Along Post Road to Increase Park
Character
• Public participation in process — When? Form?
VI. Public Comments
VII Next meeting date
VIII. Adjourn
Packet Items
- Draft Minutes of Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Meeting, 5 -13 -02
- Mr. Yoder's Coffman Park Expansion Concept Plan (sent previously)
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
June 10, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Task Force Members Staff:
Keith Blosser Frank Ciarochi
Chuck Kranstuber Fred Hahn
Amy Salay Bobbie Clarke
Chris Cline Carson Combs
Valerie Bergdall Paul Hammersmith
Bill Yoder Barb Burkholder
Roger Eastep
Absent:
Kay Neffenger
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Blosser submitted the Task Force minutes for approval.
Ms. Salay noted that the first sentence of paragraph five on page four of the minutes was incomplete
in the e -mail copy she received; other Task Force members received the same copy. The Clerk
provided a copy for review, and Ms. Salay read aloud the complete sentence.
Mr. Cline moved to approve the minutes of the May 13, 2002 meeting as submitted.
Ms. Salay seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion 7 — 0 approved.
Staff Comments
Mr. Ciarochi stated that staff is not prepared to comment on the agenda item —" identification of
roadway ideas to use along Post Road to increase park character "; however, they are prepared to
discuss the other two items — the traffic study and Mr. Yoder's plan.
Staff Update on Traffic Study
Mr. Hammersmith distributed copies of the proposed scope of services for the traffic study for the
Coffman Park expansion, as submitted by Parsons Transportation Group, Inc. of Ohio. The
estimated cost of the study is $31,134; additional work, if authorized, could increase the amount up
to $41,460. At their last meeting, Council approved proceeding with the study, and an appropriations
ordinance appropriating the money for the study is being prepared for the next Council meeting. The
estimated time to complete the study is six to eight weeks.
Mr. Cline inquired as to the reason for the traffic tubes around the City.
Mr. Hammersmith responded that the Engineering Division is updating traffic counts for the
MORPC study. That study will not be completed until next year.
Mr. Cline stated that some residents have expressed concern about the effect of the park expansion
on Tara Hill traffic. He noted that the media has perhaps not adequately reflected the amount of Task
Force and staff discussion that has occurred regarding this concern. The Task Force is committed to
the goal that its decisions must not negatively impact Tara Hill and that, if possible, a plan will be
chosen that would improve the traffic situation in all the adjoining neighborhoods.
Incorporation of Nature /Farm Education in the Park
Mr. Kranstuber inquired about Ms. Burkholder's work experience in this field.
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Ms. Burkholder stated that she has worked for the City of Dublin for several years and has been
active with the National Association of Parks and Recreation. Previously, she worked for the City of
Los Angeles. She noted that Dublin has a history of providing nature- focused classes.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the Task Force would like to maintain a natural atmosphere within the
park and is interested in investigating educational possibilities within that focus for Coffman Park.
Ms. Burkholder stated that many communities focus on their history. If they have historical
buildings, they use historical dress, historical persons, and/or historical practices or tools, and educate
the community on an earlier time period within their city. Dublin has the Coffman House, historical
barns, and the recently- discovered log cabin.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the suggestion has been made that a nature center be located on the site on
which the Community Relations Building is presently located. He inquired if Ms. Burkholder has
seen similar programs /centers, which could focus on Ohio wildlife.
Ms. Burkholder stated that there are many throughout the country. They are usually designed to
accommodate family or group gatherings.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there are some incorporated in the local Metro Parks. The advantage of
natural educational sites is that they usually do not have a huge operating expense.
Ms. Bergdall stated that the Ohio Rehab Center has a nature education center. Could Dublin design
something complementary, not a duplication?
Ms. Burkholder stated that a local center would be an advantage for Dublin residents. Working
parents have limited leisure time. They would appreciate not having to travel 20 miles to share an
evening or weekend "stress reliever" with their child. There are many possibilities for such a center
that would not compete with the larger Metro Parks.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired about the possibilities involving the creek.
Ms. Burkholder stated that "creeking," fishing, nature hunts, bird or plant identification walks would
both fit well with a nature center.
Ms. Salay noted that the Community Plan emphasizes preservation of rural character and rural
heritage. The park expansion area has some farm buildings. How would a Malabar Farm idea, an
agricultural focus, fit with a nature focus?
Ms. Burkholder responded that both should blend without difficulty. A "working farm" idea would
provide many educational opportunities. The Ohio Village has recently been discontinued. It would
be an opportune time for Dublin to develop a similar idea.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is a working farm in the Akron area, Hale Homestead.
Ms. Bergdall inquired if staff were aware what type activities are planned for the new Metro Park.
Mr. Hahn responded that the new park does focus on a return to nature — prairie lands, reforestation,
equestrian trails, 18 -hole frisbee golf, and 100 acres of wetlands. However, it does not have any
farm -type activities or demonstrations.
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Ms. Burkholder stated that she could research the Internet and access information regarding similar
ideas throughout the states or even other countries.
Mr. Cline stated that the preliminary plans for the Halloran property are very suburban and
pedestrian. He suggested something more true to the land be studied for this park, perhaps
something stone, similar to the Jensen Circles. He explained that Jensen was an early landscape
architect, who worked in the Boston and Chicago areas. [He distributed copies of information on
Jensen's work.] He noted that one of Jensen's ideas, the stone Council ring, is reminiscent of an
early native Indian practice, where the Indian council met in a circle, with no one sitting at the "top"
of the table. This idea may fit well in the park, or perhaps a stone bridge or Irish stone formation that
would emphasize a more remote setting for the Halloran property — developed, but not developed.
Mr. Cline suggested another idea for linear parks is found with the Emerald Necklace, a linear park
in Boston. This park connects different park components within the green belt — an arboretum, a golf
course, then ponds and wetlands.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the native American or early American theme could be creatively linked
to the Malabar Farm/Nature Center. He suggested moving away from the much -used Irish theme to a
theme focusing on early days in this area.
Mr. Cline noted that this area was heavily habitated by Indians at one time, as evidenced by the many
arrowheads found.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is an Indian burial ground on Bright Road. The goal for the project
would be to do something "cutting edge" yet not cause a huge drain on the operating budget.
Although staff could be used at particular times, these sites could be basically maintenance free.
Mr. Blosser requested Ms. Burkholder to research for ideas to fit within an "emerald necklace" linear
park, using the native American Council ring, and working farm ideas — living history — nothing
primarily active.
Mr. Yoder stated that he had proposed the use of the Thomas Farm. Would that be a possibility for
the working farm?
Ms. Bergdall expressed concern about the available space for the "working farm." There would be
room to accommodate small livestock buildings only. There is a small stable on the Nyrop property,
which is in excellent shape, that could easily house goats. It could be used on a seasonal basis. In
the summer, animals could be housed on -site, then returned to the farmer in the fall. O.S.U. has a
similar program.
Mr. Yoder stated that it will be necessary to make a decision regarding the old barn on the south side
of Post. Will it be demolished or incorporated into the park plan?
Mr. Cline stated that it is similar to the Segner /Dantzer house. He noted that Ms. Driscoll received a
call from a previous owner, Mary Segner, who was born in that farmhouse the early pail of the last
century. Ms. Segner was concerned that the house, which has significant Dublin history, might be
destroyed. He suggested that this site could also be used for an educational farm. Children
traversing the bikepath could view gardens and young animals in their natural habitat and witness
their development process.
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Mr. Kranstuber inquired about the animal loan program mentioned by Ms. Bergdall. He noted that
there may be grants available for such a program.
Ms. Bergdall agreed that a grant could cover the cost, but the cost wouldn't be significant.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired how continuous care would be provided.
Mr. Cline stated that a lease to live in the house would require that the lessees had training/
experience in the care of the farm animals and land. There are young couples and retired couples
who would be interested in this time of work compensated by free rent.
Mr. Yoder stated that it does not take much land for a garden and to house one or two small farm
animals. A consultant could look at the available sites and develop a strategic plan.
Mr. Blosser asked that Ms. Burkholder include in her studies a search for similar farm leaming
centers. An important consideration would be the size necessary to produce a viable farm.
Mr. Yoder stated that a small farm would be better than a large farm, as it would take less work to
maintain. Using only small animals, an acre could be sufficient.
Ms. Bergdall stated that to avoid health risks to animals, an area greater than one acre would be
advisable. A baby calf, goat and a few chickens would take less space. A few ponies for pony rides
or a petting area would require more space. It would be good to include the animals that later become
food in our food chain, so that children will understand where meat comes from.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that whatever is developed, it is important that it does not interrupt the overall
flow of the park.
Mr. Cline stated that a small, pedestrian- oriented farm is advisable, keeping it a local experience, not
drawing visitors from other communities. Perhaps the path could run through the floodplain and
through an easement at the front of his property, then past the farm. The farm would not be a
destination in itself ...just part of the pedestrian view.
Ms. Salay stated that the staffing would be provided by the residents of the home, which the City
would approve and compensate with free rent.
Ms. Bergdall stated that the residents, in return, would be willing to have pedestrians stopping to
view and intruding upon their lives for at least the summer months. One of the biggest problems
will not be the small children, but the older kids. It is important that a caretaker be on duty, for
security purposes.
Mr. Yoder agreed that it would require someone on site who would assert "ownership" of the
situation.
Mr. Cline agreed that a 9:00 -5:00 caretaker position would not be adequate. The farmer's job is a
24 -hour job. There should be ready interest in such a job.
Mr. Eastep suggested that the City consider the Thomas property as a potential site, not only because
of the farm setting, but also to retain the buildings, which have heritage. In determining the size of
this educational setting, it would be advisable to see if it could work within the envelope which
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already exists. He noted that Hilton IIead and a few similar communities offer rental of gardening
plots to the senior citizens in the community.
Mr. Yoder stated that the problem with that practice is that there is no overseer, and one gardener
"borrows" produce from another.
Mr. Eastep suggested that the option could be limited to a handful of gardeners. Instead of paying
staff to plant and tend gardens for the public's education, volunteer gardeners would do the work. A
senior citizen would derive enjoyment from doing something they love and showing it to the
children, and the children would observe the development of a garden. When Ballantrae was being
developed, he had suggested keeping one of the farmhouses for such a purpose.
Mr. Kranstuber requested clarification of the site under discussion.
Ms. Salay stated that there are two potential sites: (1) the barns on the South side of Post Road across
from the Recreation Center, and (2) driving west, on the curve, the Dantzer - Segner property.
Ms. Salay inquired if it is possible to move a barn.
Mr. Cline responded that it is. Many have been moved relatively easily, as they are primarily post -
and -peg.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the Dantzer property would be more appropriate than the Thomas
properly.
Mr. Cline stated that it would be better not to select a site for animals close to the municipal complex
or too close to residences.
Ms. Salay stated that it would be possible to use the overflow parking lot of the Recreation Center to
avoid installing additional parking.
Mr. Cline suggested using the present Community Relations site.
Mr. Eastep stated that the site should be saved for a nature center, minus the building.
Ms. Bergdall stated that a nature center is placed where there is nature, and all the nature has been
eliminated from that site. It would make more sense to place a nature center on the Nyrop property
by the pond.
Mr. Yoder suggested that the Thomas buildings could be moved to a more secluded site.
Mr. Blosser stated that the native American stone ring, the nature center and the farm site would all
seem to tie together logically. He asked Ms. Burkholder to research the possibilities and report back
to the Task Force in a couple of months.
Ms. Burkholder agreed to do so.
Staff Comments on Yoder Concept Plan
Mr. Ciarochi stated that before staff members address the specific components of the plan, he had the
following brief comments:
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the Yoder plan contains a few elements that are in sharp contrast to staff's draft plan presented
earlier this year to PRAC and City Council;
staffs plan incorporated the understanding from a previous traffic study that Post Road should
not be disconnected;
staffs plan also incorporated the understanding that the new City Hall would be located on the
site south of Post Road.
Mr. Kranstuber requested clarification of the land purchases in the study area.
Mr. Ciarochi defined the City owned sections south of Post Road. He noted that the land to the left
of the City land is the Thomas property.
Mr. Cline stated that Marian Thomas called him a few days ago to inquire about the Task Force's
progress. She pointed out that she does not own all the land referred to as "the Thomas land."
Three different branches of the family own it.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that his impression is that Council does not have strong opinions about the site
for City Hall, just that it be the most appropriate site. Although one Council member believes that
money should not be spent to buy the land to the left of the presently owned property, he is of the
strong opinion that the City should buy the land. This opinion is shared by other Council members.
It is not necessary to plan the park exclusive of the Thomas property.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that staff s assumption has been that the City will eventually acquire that
property for the Coffman Park expansion. Staffs plan suggested two alternative sites on the south
side of Post Road, one nearer Post Road and one nearer Perimeter. However, Mr. Combs will
present staffs preliminary response to Mr. Yoder's plan, including engineering input. They did not
address Mr. Yoder's suggestion that some of the City -owned land be sold back to private owners
with the City retaining easements across the property.
Ms. Clarke distributed copies of a preliminary land use /circulation study in response to Mr. Yoder's
plan.
Mr. Combs stated the staff looked at the plan, and with the assumption that Post Road can be closed,
based on traffic network analysis, responded to different issues on the plan:
Issue #1 : The plan as proposed creates a municipal building complex that is centralized, surrounded
by vehicle circulation. This ultimately limits viable park, open space, and pedestrian
safety/convenience. Utilizing the extension shown on the plan takes away substantial prime frontage
area. There are also various pedestrian/vehicle conflicts around the municipal area. The plan takes
away a substantial amount of open space.
Staffs recommendation is to delete the Post Road extension to eliminate the residual, "football -
shaped" unusable property. Use existing Perimeter Drive to create a more viable, consolidated land
that is highly visible. The proposed building site for the municipal building complex ideally should
be located in a more prominent location along Emerald Parkway and Perimeter Drive. By shifting
the proposed City Hall to a more prime location, much more usable open space would be created that
could provide linkages across Perimeter Drive, as well as to the other currently existing areas of the
park.
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Issue 2 : Proposed traffic calming measures along Tara Hill Drive will not change its role as a major
residential street, and proposed changes will have limited impacts. Numerous three and four -way
stops are already located along Tara Hill Drive to limit traffic speeds.
Staffs recommendation is that proposed traffic calming should not lessen traffic resulting from this
large established neighborhood. A better option is to limit the amount of through traffic from
Coffman destined for Avery- Muirfield. Speed bumps and raised crosswalks are not as effective as
more stops would be. With a greater number of stop signs, through traffic will likely opt for a faster
drive along Perimeter Drive.
Issue 3 : Additional chicanes and other proposed traffic calming along Post Road are very costly and
will not limit traffic due to continuing connection with Emerald Parkway. The proposed layout
would still allow traffic from Emerald Parkway to cut through the center of the park and get to
Avery- Muirfield. This would encourage more speeding problems through the park.
Staff's recommendation is to join Post Road with Commerce Parkway to terminate Post Road at the
Justice Center. Instead of many minor adjustments to Post Road, Post Road would no longer exist as
a through road, eliminating the need to provide traffic calming along existing portions of Post Road.
Evaluate existing speed limits and look at lowering segments along the municipal complex portion.
Issue # 4 : Access to Justice Center. The proposed realignment of access to the Justice Center is
costly. It will destroy a significant portion of a mature tree row along the eastern portion of the site
and is no longer a 90- degree intersection. In addition, the proposed realignment connects an
additional intersection with Commerce Parkway. Not only will this involve substantial capital
outlay, it will create the need for additional turning movements and potential signalization.
Because there are a significant number of intersections in a small distance and Emerald Parkway and
Perimeter Drive are planned to be major through roads, a potential is created for conflict with turning
traffic in large volumes of traffic.
Staff's recommendation is to continue the existing access to the Justice Center in its present form.
Access to the new municipal complex may be better provided off Commerce Parkway to provide less
traffic conflict, slower speeds and produce a more park -like entrance to the site.
Issue #5 : The proposed layout centers the building on a circular access that connects the Recreation
Center to Perimeter Drive. Functionally, that creates a four -sided building. That creates specific issues
regarding the ability to provide screening and proper service access. Proposed parking and vehicle
circulation around the proposed municipal complex usurp usable park space and create substantial
pedestrian -auto conflicts in order to gain access to the future building.
Staff's recommendation is to revisit the layout for the City Hall complex. The comer of Emerald
Parkway and Perimeter with the termination of Post Road provides a prime, visible site for the
building. To provide access off of Commerce Parkway gives the ability to provide parking that will
not create conflict issues, but also allow entry plazas, and suitable pedestrian linkages.
Issue #6
Proposed widening of Perimeter Drive to five lanes is noted in the Thoroughfare Plan. However,
much of the land has been developed at a much lower density than projected. Driving on Perimeter
Drive, it seldom takes more than one turning movement to get through the light.
Staff's recommendation is to eliminate the proposed widening pending demonstrated need. The
proposed widening should not affect the design or layout of the park at this time.
Ms. Clarke noted that at the time Perimeter Drive was initially planned, it was not expected that it
would ever be widened in the future. The City does not have adequate right -of -way to widen the
road to five lanes from Perimeter Loop to Emerald Parkway.
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Issue #7 : Based on staffs drive -by inspection of the site, utilization of the existing Thomas Farm as
a learning center is questioned, due to the poor condition of existing buildings. There may or may
not be a viable barn used either on that location or moved to another site. It seems unlikely that the
farm is viable to keep in the long -term.
Staff's recommendation is to eliminate the existing farm structures to provide a more consolidated
land area, and to utilize the site for a higher -end use, the municipal complex.
Issue #8 : Proposed intersection improvements at Avery- Muirfield Drive and Perimeter Drive are not
clearly warranted based on improvements indicated by the proposed plan. Realigning Post Road
into Commerce Parkway eliminates the need for cut - through traffic and additional turning
movements at that location, given the current level of traffic at Perimeter Drive.
Staff's recommendation is to utilize the intersection in its current state until traffic study warrants
additional lanes.
Issue #9 : Creation of an additional bridge across Indian Run on the west side of the Watch House to
the Recreation Center would create an additional route for cut - through traffic through the park to
Post Road. It would also significantly impact naturalized areas and amenities, such as landmark trees
and riparian vegetation. It would also involve a capital expenditure.
Staff's recommendation is to utilize the existing Recreation Center entrance from Post Road across
the run and incorporate this into an internal circulation route for the municipal complex that would
eliminate cut - through traffic.
Mr. Combs stated that based on those issues, staff developed a very preliminary conceptual study of
the proposed park area, as follows:
Working from Post Road, coming off S.R. 161 at Frantz Road, Post Road would terminate into a
focal point — artwork, a plaza place, or something to cap the edge. In addition, due to the prominent
location, a water feature would be incorporated with a pedestrian plaza or outdoor area that would
join with the proposed City Hall. Staff proposes to use the main thoroughfares of Emerald Parkway
and Perimeter Drive for the east -west connections and to adjust Post Road on the west side to
connect directly into the existing system of Commerce Parkway that would terminate with an
intersection at the Justice Center. Staff has looked at the existing connection to the Recreation
Center and proposed adjustments to provide access to the parking areas for the municipal complex
off Commerce Parkway. This would utilize intemal circulation and provide service access as well as
visitor parking and long -term employee parking. This uses as much of the existing system as
possible but still protects the residential character along Post Road and provides the desired amenities
within the park space.
Mr. Yoder complimented Mr. Combs on the excellent analysis. He agreed that the traffic volume is
less than projected in the Community Plan, and staffs refinement of the plan makes sense. The only
component he questions is the reliance on Post Road between Metatec and Commerce for some of
the traffic. That would be a reason for taking the major amount of traffic down Commerce rather
than Metatec. However, the downside of that option is that the character of Post Road through that
section will be busier. There won't be the opportunity to make that section more park -like and
residential in character. If the tradeoff is to accept a busier section of Post Road in lieu of buying
additional right -of -way on Perimeter Drive, it could work if it is possible to control the speed of the
traffic on Post Road. Mr. Yoder clarified that he was not proposing speed bumps for Tara Hill;
chicanes and other controls work better.
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Ms. Salay inquired if the assumption is that closing off a section of Post Road will not impact Tara
Hill.
Ms. Clarke stated that staff's first assumption is that before any such action would be taken, the
traffic consultant would do a study of the City's network and indicate that closing that section is
possible without impacting Tara Hill, perhaps by putting more volume on Perimeter. It would not be
fair to protect Post Road to the detriment of Tara Hill. She noted that when the traffic testing was
done for the Community Plan, the assumption was that eight acres would be used for the City Hall
complex. It was not then assumed that the City would become a major landowner in the area. In
addition, since then, much of this land has been put into very low volume use. Along the freeway,
Children's Hospital and other development have not been built at the peak potential for the area.
Therefore, the numbers used for the model for the Community Plan were much higher than has been
realized -- the actual numbers being produced are substantially lower.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if staff's assessment is that Mr. Yoder's plan is doable, if refined.
Ms. Clarke stated that Mr. Yoder took on a significant task in development of his plan. Staff looked
at what he was trying to accomplish, such as preservation of the Tara Hill neighborhood, traffic
calming on Post Road, taking the interruption out of the park, uniting south and north Post Road, and
coming up with an overall plan that works as a municipal campus. Staff took Mr. Yoder's goal
statements and found a way to do it without expensive traffic improvements.
Mr. Cline stated that the intent was to have the traffic consultants study this idea.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there are eight or nine issues that are dependent upon the traffic study.
Mr. Yoder has developed a plan that addressed the issues, staff has offered pertinent refinements, but
procedurally, no further work can be done until the traffic study is completed. It is important that the
product from the traffic engineer address all variations of the plan, Mr. Yoder's and staff's.
Mr. Blosser stated that Mr. Yoder's and staff's work is outstanding. Mr. Yoder's plan will become
the basis for the remainder of the work.
Mr. Yoder inquired if it could be assured that the traffic engineer studies both concepts: (1) traffic
being directed down Commerce Parkway, and (2) traffic being directed down Metatec.
Ms. Clarke stated that when staff has installed creative, expensive speed deterrents, they often have
not worked.
Ms. Salay stated that they have worked on Wilcox Road.
Ms. Clarke stated that what has worked is the termination of Wilcox Road; traffic cannot get through
to Tuttle.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the directive to the traffic consultant will be the City's desire not to increase
the traffic on Tara Hill.
Mr. Cline noted that since the agenda was not determined until Thursday, the amount of staff work
is outstanding.
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Mr. Ciarochi stated that staff was somewhat concerned about producing the information in such a
limited time. However, he met with Ms. Clarke Friday morning, and Ms. Clarke subsequently asked
Mr. Combs to review the plan and develop staffs response. This work is primarily the work of Mr.
Combs with the assistance of Ms. Wanner and Mr. Hammersmith.
The Task Force complimented staff on outstanding work.
Ms. Salay stated that it is understood that Tara Hill is a major collector and the speed is excessive.
She requested that staff and the traffic consultant specifically consider ways to fix the problem. She
suggested that the Southwest area is a type of lab for traffic reduction ideas.
Ms. Clarke suggested community re- education.
Ms. Salay agreed. The speed problem must be addressed in three parts: community re- education,
intensive enforcement, and engineering devices.
Ms. Clarke stated that 75 percent of the offenders are those who live in the neighborhood.
Ms. Salay stated that aggressive enforcement should help. She suggested doubling the fines for
speeding in residential areas, if possible.
Mr. Yoder stated that straight, wide roads encourage speed, and "reminders" that serve to decrease
speed are often effective.
Ms. Salay agreed that certain road features can make it feel "unsafe" to speed. Drivers depend upon
instinct for safe speed and adequate control of the vehicle.
Mr. Cline stated that there is an education component to this problem. The media is present for the
purpose of communication to the public. A campaign is needed to communicate to the public that it
is only good citizenship to drive the speed limit in residential areas. In his brother's Alum Creek
neighborhood, there is zero tolerance for speeding. Drivers are ticketed at 28 miles per hour. It
should be possible to re- educate the Dublin community also.
Mr. Kranstuber agreed that all reasonable ideas should be incorporated in addressing the Tara Hill
issue. One morning recently, as his wife walked their daughter to school, a father driving his child to
school was distracted for a moment. He accidentally drove into the tree lawn area and hit a mailbox,
which landed approximately four feet from his wife. The fact is that, while the City can manage the
issue, there will be ongoing issues with these types of roads, which are designed to handle large
volumes of traffic. It is often the parents on their way to and from work, as well as teenagers mid-
afternoon, that are the offenders.
Mr. Blosser stated that is reality, but the City should look at every possibility for speed deterrents.
Jennifer Assaff, 5964 Tara Hill Drive stated that there are three stop signs on Tara Hill immediately
after turning from Coffman Road. However, from Literary Drive to Avery- Muirfield, there are no
stop signs. She inquired if it would be possible to get stop signs approved for that area also.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that this Task Force is not only committed to a plan that does not increase
traffic on Tara Hill, but also to find reasonable means to improve the traffic situation. His goal is that
in a few months, a plan will be produced that will provide eight or nine components for Coffman
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Park but also several traffic - calming features for Tara Hill. He requested that the Tara Hill residents
trust Council's commitment to deal with the issue. At a minimum, three considerations have been
suggested: more stop signs, chicanes, and roadside features, such as flower boxes, that appear as
possible obstructions. He noted that the traffic issues probably will not be addressed for several
weeks, when the traffic study is completed.
Disposition of Current Houses on the Site.
Ms. Salay stated that one of Mr. Yoder's suggestions was that the City take what is needed from
some of the properties it now owns on Post Road by easements, then re -sell the properties with deed
restrictions. This would: (1) reduce some of the cost of the park expansion, and (2) provide "park
sentries" by having residents in homes within the park. This would discourage behavior that occurs
in uninhabited areas, as the residents would be quick to report anything disturbing that is observed.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired which houses are referred to.
Ms. Salay stated that she is referring to the houses the City has purchased, with the previous owners
still serving as tenants.
Ms. Bergdall stated that would be the Dantzer, Anderson, and Lehman homes
Mr. Blosser stated that the other residents in the neighborhood have stated a preference that when the
City- bought properties are vacated by their owners, that the structures be immediately removed,
rather than being rented out. The land would become more greenspace.
Mr. Cline stated that when the Post Road Committee addressed the question, the choices were limited
to: (1) tear the houses down, (2) rent the houses, or (3) use the houses as City offices. At that time, in
view of the fact that each home is over an acre, partially wooded, and it is a reasonable assumption that
renters would not do the amount of work involved with maintaining the properties, there seemed to be
no option other than tearing the houses down. The bad example of the "house turned City Community
Relations Department" discourages any further office use.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the reason those homes have not yet been torn down is that the purchase
negotiations included the option for the previous owner to remain in the house for six months to a
year. Council adopted that policy, which is presently in place,'so staff did not address other options.
The Task Force could make recommendations.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he strongly believes the opposite — that the City should convert the
property into parkland. He also does not believe the homes should be converted to City offices, but
remain part of the park setting.
Mr. Blosser stated that if the plan is to have an educational farm, a nature center and the three
existing houses, that suggests more activity and less greenspace. He prefers that the current policy be
continued, that is, after the previous owner vacates the house, the land be converted to greenspace or
other parkland plans. It would be a step backward to expand the neighborhood and decrease the
greenspace. It defeats the goal of passive expansion. He clarified that he does not want the existing
neighborhood to be eliminated or for those residents to be uncomfortable in any way. He
understands the value of resident sentries.
Ms. Bergdall reiterated the valuable surveillance service, which can be provided by park residents
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Mr. Kranstuber stated that if the City were to act solely upon that theory, then residents should be
placed in the other parks. If the City has been acquiring this land to serve as parkland, then Coffman
Park will function as a park, and it isn't appropriate to keep the homes operating on a rental basis in a
park.
Mr. Yoder agreed with the overall park plan, but cautioned that once the houses are torn down, there
is no option for reconsideration. It would be better not to move too quickly, but allow the park
planning process to be completed before any structures are destroyed. The plan is still in a formative
stage.
Ms. Bergdall stated that might not be an issue. Two of the previous owners would like to stay in
their homes another year, one of them up to four years before moving, pending Council's approval.
Mr. Blosser responded that would be up to renegotiation with Council.
Edith Driscoll, 6230 Post Road, stated that she is not sentimentally attached to the Dantzer house,
however, the farmhouse has many remarkable architectural features and is in excellent condition.
She requested that the house not be demolished. If it is not wanted on that site, it could be moved to
another site.
Mr. Cline stated that is the Orrer /Segner /Dantzer homestead. He noted that the interior is in excellent
condition also; it has been well cared for the past 89 years.
Mr. Blosser stated that the house would fit the educational farm setting.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he does not believe the Task Force will recommend razing that house.
Ms. Bergdall stated that their own home is an example of an older home that was moved rather than
demolished. Originally, it was on Frantz Road where the Huntington Bank was later located, and
was moved to its present site 25 years ago. It was built in 1942 for one of the Coffman children, who
is still alive and living in Florida.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired the Task Force's opinion on renting the homes when the current lease
expires with the previous homeowner.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she is comfortable with the present residents remaining in the homes.
However, they would oppose the homes being rented to another party.
Mr. Eastep stated that his position is that the City should retain the property it has already acquired to
serve as parkland. Council took action to appropriate the money for that purpose. There is no
benefit to the overall community to have homes reoccupied on land which the City intended to use as
parkland. He addressed the concern about security in parks. There have been less serious incidents
in parks than in the public areas or homes. He noted that he lives across the street from Red Trabue
Park, which is 72 acres, and he does not believe there has ever been a serious issue in that park.
Mr. Eastep added that the plan that Mr. Combs has suggested is basically the same plan that was
presented when Council appropriated the funds for Emerald Parkway. Council bought the land to put
City Hall in the "smile" of Emerald Parkway, because of the proximity to the freeway, the corporate
development, etc. The Planning Commission knew the traffic study worked at 10,000 square feet an
acre, and the area does not exceed that. Council had already established the future site of City Hall.
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It was not the Task Force's assignment to "reinvent the wheel," only to develop plans for the park.
However, with all the changes made to the plan, the traffic study does need to be done. Even though
he believes Mr. Yoder did an excellent job, and staff's review and recommendations regarding the
plan were also excellent, he does not believe another plan should have been created. This Task Force
should have respected previous Councils. In this form of government, this often happens. If two or
three Council members change, they can redirect Council 90 degrees from what the previous Council
worked so hard to achieve.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the critical point for him in the entire plan is that if the City does not
acquire the land to the left of the present line, the entire dream is interrupted. There is not enough
land in that area to accomplish much. It is presently farmland, and would not adversely affect
anyone if the City acquired the property. With the revenue stream the City has, it is extremely
important to complete the picture.
Ms. Salay stated that she has not heard that much opposition to the proposal for acquisition. On
either side of Post Road, City Hall would be front and center.
Mr. Cline stated that he believes that this "Task Force is strongly supportive of the concept of
acquiring the adjacent land over to Commerce Parkway. It is in the City's long -term interest that this
parcel be acquired.
Mr. Eastep stated that this is the Task Force's consensus and can be incorporated into the entire park
proposal to be presented to Council.
Mr. Cline stated that, from time to time, interested parties do look at the Thomas property. It may be
that the time will come to make a quick decision. Ile requested that, in that event, Mr. Kranstuber
and Ms. Salay convey to Council this body's consensus, even if a formal recommendation has not
been made.
Mr. Blosser stated that there is consensus on the following issues: (1) that for the overall park plan to
work, the Coffman Park needs the additional greenspace of the Thomas property; (2) that the Dantzer
house should not be demolished -- it could be a site for the educational farm; (3) that the two houses
in which the previous owners still reside be razed if those parties move out, as is Council's current
policy. As those parties may be trying to renegotiate agreements with the City's legal staff, the
present satisfactory arrangement may continue.
Mr. Yoder stated that it is important that the planners understand what the disposition of the current
existing resident property owners' property will be. His thought was that the existing residents
would remain on their properties with the City obtaining easements for the park, and that some sort
of scenic easement be placed to protect the interest of the City and the residents to ensure that their
properties be maintained in a manner consistent with the park.
Ms. Bergdall stated that they would strongly oppose that suggestion. This is the section of her
property and the Nyrop property between the creek and the bikepath. That space provides a
necessary buffer between their properties and the park. The public has the bikepath.
Mr. Yoder stated that there must be a way for the public to get back and forth on those properties.
Mr. Cline stated that his property is the only one on which it is crucial that the City have access
across the property, and he is supportive of that concept. It is not necessary for the Bergdall or
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Nyrop properties. He noted that the City might request a guarantee from the remaining homeowners
regarding what materials would be used for any future renovations or changes to the houses.
Mr. Yoder stated that staff could look at those issues and submit a proposal on how to achieve this
understanding. It could be important to work out the general details in order to know how the public
and private properties will co -exist within the park. This is not an issue unfamiliar to other parks.
Mr. Cline stated that it would be necessary to know what the park plan will be before any details can
be discussed; therefore, there is no reason decisions must be made at this time.
In cornoration of Property Owners' Names into Areas of Coffman Park
Mr. Blosser asked if the City has considered proposing to current property owners the option of
selling at a slightly lower price if a park feature would be given their name, or some other lasting
recognition be made of their name.
Ms. Salay noted that she recently spoke with Herb Jones, the resident Historic Dublin historian. He
informed her that the Thomas property was originally the Brown property.
Mr. Cline noted that it was the Basil Brown family, who are also progenitors to the Thomas family.
Ms. Salay stated that because so many of the families are related, it is necessary to be cautious
naming something after one family, when another family may feel it has a similar claim to the honor.
Ms. Bergdall stated that the creek is the primary feature of this park. Maybe the park could be
renamed after the creek.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the entire park could not be renamed. It is not possible to go backward to
that extent.
Mr. Cline stated that Coffman Park would remain as it is now, but the expansion area could present
other opportunities.
Ms. Bergdall clarified her suggestion. The corner would remain Coffman Park, but the expansion
along Post Road could be called Indian Run Park.
Mr. Kranstuber agreed, noting that it would also be offensive to take away a name once given.
He likes the idea of naming land or features after someone significant in the community, but it is not
a simple matter. However, some families have had significant impact on the City. A large amount
of former Thomas land is now being used for public purposes.
Mr. Cline noted that their willingness to sell their land made the golf course possible. The Thomas
family also owned the land east of the Waterford subdivision.
Mr. Eastep stated that he would not be opposed to such naming, although it would be necessary to
study the City's history carefully.
Mr. Yoder inquired if the suggestion is to name the new civic center the "Thomas Civic Center."
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Mr. Cline responded that it is merely a possibility to consider. It would not mean that every piece of
greenspace must be named after someone.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that the City's practice has not been to name buildings after someone, as has
been the practice of the Dublin school system and other communities. For instance, when Mayor
Dixon or Mayor Karrer died, nothing was commemorated in their names. The City has chosen more
geographically significant names.
Mr. Hahn stated that there has been a lack of a naming policy. Another consideration is whether the
City wants to name parks/buildings after a family who really did nothing other than sell their land to
the City for at least "fair market value." Ohio State University, for example, has named places after
individuals who donated huge amounts of land.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that perhaps Mrs. Thomas would consider selling a certain piece of land for
less than premium price in exchange for recognition of their name.
Mr. Blosser stated that staff is not prepared to comment at this time. Therefore, continued discussion
of this topic can be resumed at the next meeting.
Mr. Blosser requested public comments.
Farid Masri, 7061 Calvary Court, President, Indian Run Meadows Civic Association
(1) Stated that Kay Neffenger, who was unable to be present tonight, asked that Mr. Masri report on
a couple of issues on her behalf. Behind the Retirement Center on Post Road, there is a park along
Indian Run, which has benches and exercise equipment. She suggests such items would be
welcomed in some area of the Coffman Park expansion. She also suggests that more trash
receptacles be included along the park pathways. When Mr. Masri visited Lake Placid recently, he
noticed that trash bags are offered on trees along the paths, for the public's use in picking up trash.
(2) Applauded Mr. Yoder's plan and staff's adjustments to it.
(3) Stated that making the Coffman Park expansion work will take a lot of sacrifice from both the
City and the homeowners. However, he believes it is important to protect the citizens' homes
and lands, no matter who they are or where they are. Ile complimented the Task Force on such a
focus.
(4) Stated that he does not agree that the installation of additional stop signs along Tara Hill would
lessen the speeding problem. FIe has studied the effectiveness of the present stop signs, and they
do not work. FIe suggested other measures, such as a median and strict speed enforcement,
would be more effective. Perhaps camera radar would be effective. Once the community
becomes aware of the enforcement in that area, they will slow down.
The Task Force consensus was that another meeting should not be held until the traffic study has
been completed. This will also allow Ms. Burkholder and staff ample time to complete their studies.
The next meeting was scheduled for Monday, July 29`
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 10:00 p.m.
Submitted by:
Assistad Clergor Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, August 26, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of June 10, 2002 Meeting
IV. Staff Preliminary Comments
V. Regular Meeting
Traffic Study Report
- Staff Recommendations and Comments Per Report
- Identification of Roadway Ideas to Increase Park Character Along Post
Road
- Task Force Members' Comments
• Update on Staff's Study re Incorporation of Nature /Farm /Education Elements
in the Park - Ms. Burkholder
• Historic Background of the Study Area
- Preservation of Historic Elements - Tom Holton and Leona Jones, Dublin
Historical Society
• Follow -up re Disposition of Current Houses on Site
- Status of Current Residents' Leases
• Follow -up re Incorporation of Property Owners' Names into Areas of
Cof&nan Park
• Public Participation in Process — When? Form?
VI. Public Comments
VII. Next meeting date
VIII. Adjournment
Packet Items
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
August 26, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
P resent :
Charles Kranstuber
Keith Blosser
Roger Eastep
Chris Cline
Bill Yoder
Valerie Bergdall
Kay Neffenger
Amy Salay (excused)
Staff:
Jane Brautigam
Frank Ciarochi
Bobbie Clarke
Carson Combs
Paul Hammersmith
Fred Hahn
Barb Burkholder
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Kranstuber moved to approve the June 10, 2002 Task Force minutes as presented. Ms. Bergdall
seconded the motion. The minutes were unanimously approved.
Traffic Study Report
Mr. Blosser introduced Doyle Clear, Parsons Transportation Group Mr. Clear noted that Parsons has
worked with the City on several previous projects. They assisted staff with the Community Plan update,
at which time they looked at the Post Road corridor and corresponding issues. For that project, they
developed the travel demand model for the City. It is somewhat outdated. After the 2002 census data,
which MORPC will have later this year or early 2003, a new study could be done. Interim traffic
studies in this zone are not yet based on the new census information. Ile indicated that their office had
also worked with the City on the Southwest Traffic Calming plan.
At the City's request, they have finished a new traffic study of the Post Road area [copies were
distributed]. Tonight's presentation will not focus on the capacity and level of service analysis but on a
comparison of the three alternatives. Following feedback from the Task Force, the consultants will
refine the study, targeting specific issues, and compile a final report.
Mr. Clear reviewed the background of the study. He noted that the traffic demand model covered four
different traffic analysis zones. They compiled traffic counts based on the current level of development
in those four areas and compared those numbers to the anticipated level of development at buildout. He
noted that there is significantly less development occurring in the four zones than was anticipated when
the model was developed in 1997. Although there is 85,000 more square feet of retail development, it is
primarily auto retail. There are 230,000 square feet less industrial space and 1.1 million square feet less
office space than anticipated than anticipated. In 1997, the traffic analysis indicated that Post Road
could not be closed because of the volume of traffic that would be generated from the projected
development in those four zones. The significantly lower density development that is occurring presents
the opportunity for other options for Post Road.
The traffic consultants considered three possible roadway networks. With Alternative 1, the existing
network, Post Road remains open, Perimeter Drive is completed, Coffman Park Drive remains a
driveway, and the new City Hall site is in the western corner of the intersection of Post and Emerald
Parkway. With Alternative 2, a link of Post Road is removed from the Ree Center driveway to Emerald
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Parkway, and the City Hall site remains in the same location as with Alternative 1. Post Road is turned
down Commerce Parkway and into Perimeter. With Alternative 3, Perimeter is connected to Post Road
at Emerald Parkway. Coffman Park Drive would be extended westward from Emerald Parkway where
it now turns at Coffinan, to turn over the creek before tying into Post Road. The City Hall site would
move more to the west, closer to Commerce Parkway. Where Perimeter ties into Emerald Parkway, a T
intersection is suggested at the City Hall access point.
Mr. Clear pointed out that the Post Road through traffic volume is modest. hi the morning peak hour
condition, there are approximately 40 westbound through vehicles; in the eastbound direction, there are
approximately 60 through vehicles. The two biggest generators of traffic on Post Road are Metatec and
CheckFree, and there is a large volume heading for those destinations from Muirfield Drive and
Post/Emerald Parkway. If Post Road traffic is diverted, it will be important to maintain access for those
employers. The traffic pattern would shift to move through Perimeter, with an emphasis on the
intersection at Perimeter and Metatec. Currently, Perimeter goes from a 5 -lane road down to three lanes
at Wilcox. It should have remained five lanes up to Metatec Blvd. ht the evening peak hour, there are
210 westbound, through vehicles on Post Road, and 30 eastbound through vehicles. In addition 44
percent of the traffic from the west and 21 percent of the traffic from the east is heading to the Rec
Center. It will be important to retain access to /from the Rec Center.
He discussed future traffic projections for the current roadway network. With buildout of the area and
the anticipated development, the current intersection at Avery and Post roads will not be able to service
the traffic. He suggested that the best resolution would be a south -bound left turn lane on Muirfield to
Post Road with left turn lanes added on both legs of Post Road at that intersection. If this left turn lane
is not added, it will be necessary to widen Perimeter from Avery Road to Metatec and add double left -
turn, eastbound lanes at that location.
Mr. Clear discussed the intersection capacity utilization (ICU) of the intersections in each network. He
discussed the comparative matrix of the three roadway systems, focusing on the impact on Tara Hill,
Coffman Park Drive, and Post Road, if Post Road is closed. He noted that closing Post Road keeps
traffic within an acceptable capacity range.
Mr. Clear described the improvements to Perimeter Drive that would be needed with the three
alternatives:
With the current system, Alternate I (Post Road remains open): the only change needed would be
to extend the five -lane cross section on Perimeter over to Metatec and add a traffic signal there.
Alternate 2 : (Post Road is cut between the Emerald Parkway and the Rec Center): would require
the five -lane cross section extension to Metatec and traffic signal installed at that location; another
lane would be necessary on Commerce, along with a traffic signal; and Perimeter would be
widened from a three -lane cross section to a five -lane cross section at Commerce. This option
would require the acquisition of additional right -of -way.
Alternate 3 (Post Road is tied directly to Perimeter Drive: This alternative requires significant
road improvements. A full five -lane cross section from Commerce through the site to tie in to
Post at Emerald would be necessary, with a double left turn lane going eastward to the north.
With this alternative, they suggest removing the kink from the northern end of Commerce
Parkway. In addition, the recently completed section of Post Road east of Emerald Parkway
would have to be torn out, the road moved south, with both the north and south sides widened to
tie into the existing bridge over I -270. Taking Coffman Park Drive west from the Rec Center, past
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the bridge, over the creek, and past the Watch House would impact that area.. To make the
intersection work at the Rec Center, it would require covering a significant amount of the creek.
He reviewed the amount of right -of -way that would be required for each alternative — more would be
necessary for Alternate 3. Ile noted that the existing roadway offers the best opportunity for serving the
developments in this zone. However, if Post Road is closed, access to Metatec, CheckFree, and Wall
Street is somewhat constrained, but the existing intersection of Emerald and Perimeter continues to
work at an acceptable level of service.
Mr. Clear stated that with Alternatives 1 and 2, the location of City Hall would have frontage ml
Emerald Parkway, and a hotel has been proposed for the opposite side of Emerald Parkway. There are
already curbcuts at those locations. That is the only access available from Emerald Parkway to City
Hall, and it probably could not be signalized due to the low level of traffic. With Alternate 3, alternate
access would be from Commerce or Post Road near the current Rec Center drive; traffic at those
intersections would justify signalization. Access to City Hall is significantly better with Alternate 3, and
it would have a Perimeter Drive address and signalized intersection.
He stated that the ability to expand Coffman Park southward with the current road system is minimal.
With all three alternatives, improvements world necessary at the Avery Road corridor. He concluded
his report.
Mr. Blosser invited questions from the Task Force.
Mr. Eastep inquired if there were any rough estimates involved with the three alternatives.
Mr. Hammersmith stated that the estimates have not yet been developed. Alternate 3 has very
expensive improvements. Coffman Park Drive would have to be completely rebuilt. Post Road east of
Emerald would also have to be completely rebuilt.
Mr. Clear stated that right -of -way costs have not yet been estimated. He added that they have done a
preliminary engineering sketch. This sketch is laid over the current Auditor's mapping, so it is easy to
see what would be needed. That information can be developed at the Task Force's direction.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the assessment was that all three alternatives would have an insignificant
impact on Tara Hill traffic.
Mr. Clear affirmed that is the assessment. There will be minimal change in the traffic patterns.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it is good to know that the proposed park development will not impact Tara
Hill traffic. He added that aside from this project, Council is interested in improving Tara Hill's
situation regarding traffic. Would the traffic level be positively impacted by removal of the proposed
hotel and the 192,000 -sq. ft. future office plan.
Mr. Clear confirmed that it would.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is an obligation to the residents, to the present corporate residents, and
the employees /users of City Hall to minimize the development there. Although, Council normally looks
at generating income tax revenue, in this case, it may be better not to focus on that objective.
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Mr. Clear noted that the situation appears to be regulating itself. The high- density development
anticipated for the S.R. 161/33 corridor is not occurring. The automobile dealerships that have replaced
other developments are not high traffic generators.
Mr. Cline noted that the 192,000 -sq. ft. office space is a site that the City is also considering purchasing.
If that happens, municipal development would occur instead. He inquired if Mr. Clear's study also
considered that potential.
Mr. Clear stated that they worked only with the current land use.
Mr. Cline stated that according to the Auditor's map, on the section from Wilcox to Metatec, there is
more right -of -way than is used. From Venture Drive to the east, there is adequate right -of -way.
However, in the middle section of Perimeter in front of CheckFree, the right -of -way narrows. How did
this happen? This section was completed before Perimeter Center.
Ms. Clarke stated that the Thoroughfare Plan has changed over time. The center portion of Perimeter
Drive as originally envisioned was to be three lanes. That's all the right -of -way that was set aside.
Mr. Cline inquired if it is feasible to expand that.
Ms. Clarke stated that in all cases there is 25 feet of greenspace along both sides as a setback before
reaching designated parking area. More right -of -way could probably be acquired.
Mr. Clear stated that with Alternative 2, the City maintains the 3 -lane cross section between Metatec and
Commerce. However, it would be necessary to get the 5 -lane cross section to Metatec from the west
and to Commerce Parkway in the east. The center section can remain three lanes. Right -of -way is
available in those areas.
Mr. Blosser inquired if the left -turn lane recommended from Avery - Muirfield Drive to Post Road to
facilitate traffic to Metatec and CheckFree, would increase traffic to the residential area on Post Road.
Mr. Clear responded that on the east side of Metatec, traffic would actually be reduced from current
volume; on the west side, it would be increased by approximately 200 vehicles in the am and 60
vehicles in the pm conditions. He noted that 250 cars increased to 440 would be approximately a 100 -
percent increase. This would impact the few single - family homes on the western end of this segment of
Post Road.
Mr. Cline stated that this area is where most of the residents are concentrated.
Mr. Clear stated that hindsight would indicate that those homes should not have been approved for that
section — both industrial development and residential development in the same area. Now, the City must
provide accessibility to the employers. He added Post Road once was S.R. 161.
Mr. Blosser stated that the left -turn lane is recommended, whether Alternative I or 2 is chosen to
resolve the traffic cluster in the Perimeter area. Alternative I would result in a more significant increase
of traffic on Post Road than the other would.
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Mr. Clear responded that the only other option is to enlarge the intersection. Unfortunately, an intersection
sufficiently large cannot be built at that location.
Mr. Yoder agreed that the intersection couldn't remain as it is. If the left -turn lane is the solution, what
option is available to reduce traffic speed?
Mr. Clear responded that he has not looked at it closely, but he would suggest a traffic circle at the
intersection of Metatec and Post roads. He pointed out that the homeowners on the western end of Post
Road would feel the impact only in the morning peak hour.
Mr. Cline inquired if the traffic model assumed the State - recommended 35 -mph for this area, or would it
be feasible to drop the speed? Reducing the speed limit on the section between Avery and Wilcox roads
would alleviate the impact on the residents.
Mr. Clear responded that a reduction in speed would not inhibit the ability of the commuters to get to
work. Although it would not reduce the volume of traffic, it could lessen the hazard of it.
Mr. Cline stated that the two issues are volume and speed. Speed is currently a serious issue on Post
Road. If the speed is reduced, the increased volume will be more tolerable.
Mr. Clear stated that closure of Post Road would eliminate all the cut - through traffic. He added that a
large residential PUD is also proposed for the south side of Post Road. The objective is to keep this a
residential street, but the section of Post Road between Avery- Muirfield and Metatec does have to
provide access to those employers.
Mr. Cline noted that this enlarges the committee's charge. If a left -turn at the intersection is considered,
it will be necessary to look more seriously at traffic calming for that segment of Post Road.
Mr. Clear stated that in comparison, the traffic volume on Tara hill is 700 vehicles; therefore, 440
vehicles would not seem an uncomfortable number for roads that act as collectors.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that his concern is the 920,000 -sq. ft. of office development proposed further
down the road, which would draw a large volume of traffic into that section of Post Road. However, if
the road were closed, wouldn't that psychologically discourage traffic?
Mr. Clear responded that the actual traffic might be less than the numbers indicate.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he favors Alternative 2. He inquired if Mr. Clear could do a second study on
ways to refine /enhance that alternative.
Mr. Blosser stated that Mr. Clear has indicated that within the scope of his study is a revision to tailor
the preferred option. He also prefers Alternative 2. He does not favor the placement of the new City
Hall as provided by Alternative 1, and Alternative 3 is cost - prohibitive.
Mr. Clear pointed out that one constriction to making this system work is the bridge over Indian Run in
front of City Hall and the bridge over I -270. He suggested making that a T intersection, Emerald
Parkway continuing and Post Road "T -ing" in; with no traffic on the western side, it will be possible to
provide double left -turn lanes going south on Emerald Parkway, crossing over I -270. The continuous
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movement of Emerald Parkway will make the Post Road /Emerald Parkway intersection and the existing
roadway system work much more efficiently.
Mr. Blosser polled the Task Force members on the issue. Consensus of the Task Force was to select
Alternative 2.
Mr. Cline pointed out that this alternative's strong point is that it provides a unified City campus.
Mr. Eastep noted that the parcel zoned for 192,000 -sq. ft. office could easily be rezoned for 144,000 sq.
ft.
Mr. Kranstuber suggested the option of the City purchasing one section of the property, which would
increase the density in the remaining section.
Mr. Cline stated that this land is an integral, flat piece that the City has identified for acquisition, and
which it would regret not purchasing.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is presently no interested developer, and the understanding is that if
such a proposal is made, the landowner will give the City first chance. There is presently no need for
action.
Mr. Cline stated that the City already owns sufficient land in the study area to construct the City campus
as suggested.
Mr. Blosser requested Mr. Clear to include in his revision of Alternative 2: (1) evaluation of potential
impact on Tara Hill traffic; (2) recommendation for traffic- calming measures for the west section of
Post Road and any other affected roads; (3) evaluation of the "kink" that Mr. Clear has indicated with
this alternative.
Mr. Yoder suggested traffic- calming considerations for Post Road in the park area.
Mr. Kranstuber requested that Mr. Clear also suggest ways to achieve a park -like character for the
section of Post Road past the PUD and three or four traffic- calming recommendations for Tara Hill.
Mr. Blosser suggested that, per the Committee's focus, Mr. Clear also recommend park -like features for
Post Road from the Metatec site eastward.
Mr. Clear inquired if the Task Force's view is that there would be a complete reconstruction of Post
Road.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that it would require only cosmetic restructuring.
Mr. Blosser stated that it would not be necessary to rebuild Post Road to add traffic- calming measures
and achieve a park -like character.
Mr. Yoder agreed that it would not be necessary to rebuild, but it would make sense to add a "kink" in
the road at a couple locations.
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Mr. Kranstuber inquired if there are any studies that indicate roadside vegetation will affect traffic
speed.
Mr. Clear responded that not only will landscape architecture change the character of the road, studies
also indicate a psychological affect of roadside vegetation on traffic speed.
Mr. Cline stated that a Post Road landscape plan was prepared for Council four -five years ago, which
was not approved, due to the cost. He noted that studies indicate that if the long -range view is blocked
along the road, traffic slows. Perhaps landscaping could be added to chicanes or travel circles to block
the distance view.
Mr. Eastep stated that Post Road is no longer a State route. It is within the City's jurisdiction to set the
speed limit. The Task Force consensus is to set the speed at 25 mph.
Mr. Clear will present a revised plan for Alternative 2 at the September 23` meeting.
Staff Study re Incorporation of Nature /Farm /Education Elements in the Park
Ms. Burkholder presented an update on the study she completed per the Task Force's direction at their
June 10' meeting. Through the National Parks and Recreation Association website, she conducted a
survey on turning historical farms into educational, working farms or nature centers for local, tourist
attractions. She distributed a spreadsheet with the results of the 19 responses received. Most responses
indicated local, stand -alone parks with their own budgets and staff. None had an Indian circle. She
suggested that it would take a full -time employee to research the potential adequately.
Mrs. Bergdall noted that the approximate size of the working farms that responded to Ms. Burkholder's
survey is 25 acres. The City does not have that much acreage to target for this project. There are
certainly smaller educational farms out there.
Mr. Cline stated that he does not envision this working farm as a tourist draw, but a passive use for the
community. He asked Ms. Clarke about a specific barn to the north of Amlin, which she had suggested
that the City acquire. If it is still available, perhaps it could be acquired and moved to the park. Its
appearance would be an asset to the park.
Ms. Clarke indicated that she is unaware of the current status.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Council is concerned more with the ongoing operating cost of a working farm
within the City park. Perhaps the farm could consist of the Dantzer house functioning as the farmhouse,
along with a small barn, and space for a few farm animals. It should not require three full -time
employees to run the farm. He suggested use of natural materials, which would maintain a synergy with
the nearby woods and also require less maintenance. The project will have to be customized to fit the
City's limited space.
Ms. Bergdall noted that she was recently within the Dantzer house when it was temporarily unoccupied,
and was able to assess the space. Along with the small shed already on the property, it appears
compatible with the size of the proposed operation. The shed is capable of accommodating a dozen
animals. For the short term, that should suffice. In the future, it could be replaced with another
structure, if desired. It would be an economical beginning for the farm.
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Mr. Blosser stated that it also is in line with the Task Force's desire to find a use for viable properties,
rather than razing them.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that he envisions the nature center, which would shelter owls or animals in their
natural habitat, as a separate unit from the domesticated farm. Perhaps volunteers, or workers funded
through an ODNR grant, could oversee the daily operations. A focus on the area's Indian heritage could
also be located there. This site would have an overall natural look, separate from the farm.
Ms. Bergdall advised against housing wildlife there. It would be better to offer contact with wildlife
through the short-term programs offered by the Recreation Center.
Mr. Blosser suggested that the site could be available for use by 4 -II groups, girl scouts and boy scouts.
Perhaps the Rec Center could expand some of its programs to use this site.
Mr. Eastep stated that if the Recreation Center has a wish list of passive ideas that the Task Force should
consider, they should submit those to the Task Force.
Ms. Burkholder stated that the fire ring could be incorporated into Rec Center outdoor programs.
Mr. Blosser suggested that Ms. Burkholder further research fire ring ideas.
Ms. Bergdall noted that last year, the Columbus Home and Garden Show incorporated a fire ring into its
landscaping. It was constructed of stone and was large -- very Dublinish. She suggested Ms.
Burkholder look into that. She suggested a weekend pony ride might work with this park. There is
already a stable within the park.
Ms. Burkholder stated that there is a large amount of information available through the Association for
Living History and farm and agricultural museums. For this meeting, she searched primarily for
information on working farms. She added that it would be important to develop the farm and nature
center to comply with ADA guidelines.
She will attempt to obtain some useful information at an ADA conference that she plans to attend in a
couple of weeks. Ms. Burkholder will forward a copy of the additional information she collects to Mr.
Blosser and the Council Clerk's office.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that although he anticipates a short executive summary of the Task Force's
proposals for Council's consideration, he does not want all these ideas to be lost. He suggested that a
subcommittee or a couple of the Task Force members could maintain this information, so that these
resources are not lost. However, it is not wise to spend more dollars or staff time on additional research
at this point, as it has not been determined if Council desires to pursue some of these ideas.
Mr. Blosser agreed. Sufficient information has been provided to develop general ideas for usage of the
land within the park area, but suggesting programs is not the purpose of this group.
Mr. Yoder stated that the final product could include a list of the Task Force's recommendations. At
some point, one or some of the Task Force members could draft the report, amend it as a group, and
achieve a final list of recommendations to present to Council. The Southwest Area Task Force presented
such a report to Council. That report was developed with the input of citizens. After that Task Force
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developed its recommendations, they were presented to the area residents via a mailer, which consisted
of a questionnaire soliciting public input.
Historic Background
Tom Holton and Herb Jones, Dublin Historical Society were present. Mr. Jones presented a brief,
historical background on early residents in the Dublin area. He noted that the City now owns two
historical cabins -- the Sam Davis cabin, which once sat on the Thomas Kohler property and the Ludwig
Sells cabin, which originally sat on the old Post Farm on Dublin Road. It also owns the historical site
next to City Hall, the Fletcher Coffman Farm. He stated that the Historical Society would like to see the
Brown/Thomas property and the Howard Orr properties preserved, to be used in whatever manner the
City believes best.
Mr. Holton stated that the Historical Society requests that these cabins and the Coffman Farm be
preserved as much as possible. He suggested some possible uses of the buildings, either in place or
moved. Occupied or unoccupied, they would present an interesting backdrop to the Coffman Park.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if Mr. Holton or Mr. Jones had any views regarding the naming or renaming of
certain sections of Coffman Park to honor those early settlers of the Dublin area.
Mr. Jones responded that his wife (Brown family) would have no objection to use of her family's name.
Mr. Jones presented a chronology of ownership of the property on the south side of Post Road:
Following a Virginia military grant to Mr. Scott, it was then owned by a Mr. Wagner. Mr. James
Simpson Brown then acquired the land, and it has since been owned by members of his family. He
stated that the original owner of the Coffman land on the other side of the road was Benjamin Sells.
Ms. Bergdall stated that another house in the park area, which may have some historical significance,
was originally built on Frantz Road in 1942 for a different Coffinan family. It was later moved to its
current Post Road location, and she and her husband are the owner /residents.
Discussion continued regarding early ownership of Post Road property.
Mr. Yoder suggested that the Dublin Historical Society provide a written recommendation listing the
specific Coffman Park properties they would encourage the City to preserve. This could be included
with the Task Force's report to Council.
Mr. Holton stated that the Society could pass a Resolution doing so. He noted that the Architectural
Review Board (ARB) has a list of 30 protected sites; how could the properties discussed tonight be
included in that list?
Mr. Cline stated that the ARB is charged with protecting those properties.
Mr. Blosser invited public comment.
Kimberly O'Brien, 6097 Tara Hill Drive stated that she is disappointed with the manner in which they
became aware of tonight's meeting. Mention of the meeting was included in a news article on the Glick
Road expansion. She stated that her home is the first house on the right side of "Tara Hill, after turning
from Muirfield Drive. She stated that the City's traffic study counts do not accurately reflect the amount
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of traffic on that section of "Para Hill -- 700 -800 cars per day is not acceptable. Traffic for a football
game, the Memorial Tournament, the Irish Festival, etc. increases the traffic significantly. She stated
that the City continuously approves elements for the neighborhood which result in increased traffic on
Tara Hill. Closing Post Road will have the same result.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that the purpose of this Task Force is to study the Coffman Park area, not Tara
Hill. However, the Task Force has stated that it would consider all issues within the overall objective of
not increasing Tara Hill traffic. The intent of the group is to include traffic - calming suggestions in its
recommendations to Council. This is in line with Council's goals. At the budget meeting last month,
Councilman Lecklider proposed that $100,000 be budgeted for traffic calming per year.
Matt Holman. 5390 "Tara IIill Drive stated that he lives at the intersection of Tara Hill and Literary
Lane. He stated that there has been a serious traffic issue on Post Road since the left turn onto Post
Road was closed. He requested copies of the Task Force minutes.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that he does not see many options for Tara Hill, other than raised crosswalks,
speed humps and stop signs, which the neighbors may not want. However, the traffic consultant may
come up with another idea.
Mr. Blosser suggested that the residents contact the civic association president and request a meeting to
discuss the problem. The final option would be to approach Council with a request from the
neighborhood.
Mr. Eastep noted the importance for the residents to be unified and present a unified proposal.
Mr. Blosser distributed an e -mail report from Ms. Grigsby addressing the status of the Coffman Park
properties on Post Road.
Public Participation in the Process
Mr. Blosser stated that at the next meeting, he would like to focus on the traffic study. He would also
like the Task Force to develop recommendations for different phases of the park and recommendation
for the individual properties, current property owners exempted. He suggested that this may also be the
appropriate time to request public input. He asked Mr. Yoder to describe the process used by the
Southwest Traffic Calming Task Force (SWTCTF) to solicit public input.
Mr. Yoder provided a copy of the report which the SWTCTF submitted to Council and a sample of the
mailer that was used by the SWTCTF to inform residents of the issue under consideration for their area,
including a map of the study area, list of proposed features, and a brief questionnaire for resident
response. The residents responded, through the questionnaires and by attending the next meetings. In
the subsequent meetings, which were well attended by the residents, many issues were addressed and
resolved before a final list of recommendations was forwarded to City Council. The public education
and input before formal Council consideration of the issue prevented possible chaos at the Council
meeting. The residents felt that they were part of the process.
Mr. Blosser suggested that a mailer be distributed to residents within a one or half -mile radius of
Coffman Park.
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Mr. Kranstuber inquired if soliciting public input is advisable at this time, or would it be better to wait
until after the next meeting.
Mr. Cline suggested deferring the mailer until after the next meeting. The Task Force is still in the
midst of "brainstorming."
Mr. Yoder agreed. lie suggested that staff produce a more refined drawing of the park area. The
revised drawing could be reproduced for public view.
Mr. Blosser stated that Mr. Clear would also present a revision of the traffic plan at the next meeting.
Staff could also refine the proposed park layout.
Mr. Yoder noted that the Task Force will want to obtain the residents' support, and timing of the mailer
would be important. In the summer and early fall months, park issues are of more interest to the
community. Near the holidays, interest would be focused elsewhere.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that following the next Task Force meeting, he or the Chair would contact the
Community Relations Department to develop the mailer.
Ms. Bergdall suggested that another venue be considered. Perhaps a display could be set up at the
Dublin Recreation Center of the proposed park plan. Comment cards could be made available for public
response.
Mr. Kranstuber suggested that both venues be used. Mailers would reach all the residents, and a display
at the Rec Center would reach those who would be the users of the park.
Mr. Eastep stated that it is optimistic to believe that the issue will be ready for public input following the
next meeting.
Mr. Kranstuber agreed that it may not be ready. The mailer could be deferred until after a second
meeting, if necessary.
Following discussion, the next meeting was scheduled for Monday, September 23, 2002, at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
Submitted by:
Assista let f Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, September 23, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meetine Agenda
I. Call to Order
11. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of August 26, 2002 Meeting
IV. Staff Preliminary Comments
V. Regular Meeting
• Updated Traffic Study Report
• Staff Recommendations re. Traffic Study, Park Character along Post Road,
Incorporation of Educational Elements and Unified City Hall Park Campus
• Traffic Calming for Tara Hill Drive
• Task Force Discussion of Updates (above)
• Public Participation in Process
What Form? When?
• Preliminary Outline to Council for Update Purposes
VI. Public Comments
VII. Next meeting date
VIII. Adjourn
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
September 23, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Staff:
Charles Kranstuber
Jane Brautigam
Keith Blosser
Frank Ciarochi
Amy Salay
Bobbie Clarke
Chris Cline
Carson Combs
Bill Yoder
David Ball
Valerie Bergdall
Kay Neffenger
Roger Eastep (excused)
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Ms. Bergdall moved to approve the August 26, 2002 Task Force minutes as presented. Mr. Cline
seconded the motion. The minutes were unanimously approved.
Traffic Study Report
Doyle Clear, Parsons Transportation Group stated that after the presentation of the initial traffic
study, the Task Force had requested Mr. Clear to: (1) Further refine Option Two, including
engineering detail. [Option Two of the Traffic Study was the proposal to close Post Road west of
Emerald Parkway and east of the Community Recreation Center.]; (2) Suggest potential
concepts for dealing with traffic issues on the section of Post Road between Avery Road and
Metatec; (3) Suggest options to deal with traffic volume and speed on Tara Hill. Following that
meeting, he met with City staff and jointly developed some ideas. He developed traffic calming
options for the study area, and Mr. Combs of the City's Planning Department reviewed the task
from a land planning/park planning perspective. They reviewed the recommendations this
afternoon before presenting to this group. Those recommendations are still somewhat
preliminary. It is anticipated that additional refinement would be required before the final
recommendations are completed.
Traffic Volume and Speed on Tara Hill
Mr. Clear gave a PowerPoint presentation on sample traffic calming devices, which could be
applied to the Tara Hill area, including medians, traffic circles, chicanes, raised intersection
tables, speed humps, and on- street parking. Mr. Clear noted that Tara Hill is approximately one
mile long and 36 feet wide with no designated on- street parking. There are three stop signs — at
Roscommon, Ernest Way, and Literary -- and limited curves with long straight sections. Mr.
Clear stated that the City's procedure for traffic calming requests is that a petition must first be
received from the residents. He noted that in 2000, at Council's request, Traffic Engineering
Services (TES) conducted a traffic study of a particular segment of Tara Hill. TES advised that
it is inappropriate to look at a small portion of Tara Hill. It would be more appropriate to deal
with Tara Hill in its entirety.
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The Parsons Group's preliminary recommendations include:
1. raised intersection tables at some intersections, such as: Roscommon, Literary, Ernest
Way, Adventure, Shady Nelms, Newbridge, Wichita;
2. speed humps or raised or painted crosswalks between those intersections, to break up the
lengthy sections;
3. narrow Tara Hill in the sections where there are no driveways. The City Engineer has
agreed to accept reduction to a 26 -foot curve;
4. painted parking spaces in certain areas.
Mr. Clear noted that these are preliminary suggestion. Specific studies would have to be
undertaken before proceeding.
Mr. Yoder inquired if there is an alternative route from Avery Road to Dublin Coffman High
School.
Mr. Clear stated that it is possible to take Sells Mill to Shady Nelms and proceed through there.
Mr. Clear noted that part of the volume of traffic on Tara Hill is related to activities oriented to
the high school, and when the third high school is completed, the volume may be reduced.
However, the traffic related to the subdivision would be undiminished, and the majority of the
traffic on Tara Hill is related to the subdivision itself. Their studies indicate that Tara Hill is
not an alternate route to the Post Road corridor.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if an unintended consequence could occur: if Tara Hill's traffic is
slowed, will the traffic flow on Sells Mills be negatively impacted?
Mr. Clear responded that he does not believe that would occur. Currently, neither the speed limit
nor the stop signs are observed on Tara Hill. If the speed is slowed, traffic will not be diverted,
as drivers will continue to seek the shortest travel distance. Studies indicated that if Post Road
were closed, traffic on Tara Hill would increase minimally by 20 — 35 vehicles per day.
Mr. Cline inquired why more bold traffic calming measures, such as the traffic circles used in the
Southwest Area, were not recommended for Tara Hill,
Mr. Clear responded that they were not recommended due to the fact that Tara Hill is built out.
The traffic circle could not be built without acquiring some homes. Building chicanes would
push traffic against the homes or driveways.
Mr. Cline stated that Mr. Clear commented that traffic volume on Tara Hill has remained
constant since build out. How far back do those counts go? There has been significant
development to the west and north of Tara Hill.
Mr. Clear responded that TES did the counts in year 2000, and again during the school year.
Those calculations reflect the AM and PM peak hour traffic only.
Ms. Neffenger stated that she favors the concept of narrowing the road and adding the raised
crosswalks.
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Public Comment
Jacque Adams, 5971 Tara Hill stated that they have circulated a petition requesting a traffic
study for Tara Hill. They have acquired 88 of the 113 needed signatures to date, and anticipate
securing the remainder within the next couple of days. She noted that the Police Department put
a Stealth Stats on their road, and the total vehicles counted between 11:15 am and midnight
averaged 2,200 -- 2,700. The morning traffic was not counted. The average speed was 24.7
mph, however, the counter was placed at the intersection with Shady Nelms, where traffic slows
to turn. The total tickets given by the Police Department in the last three years are as follows:
1999 — 11 tickets, 2000 — 63 tickets, 2002 — 9 tickets. Since 6 tickets were given out in 16
minutes earlier in 2002, only 3 tickets have been given out during the rest of the year.
Mr. Blosser stated that although this Task Force's purpose is not to address traffic concerns on Tara
Hill or elsewhere, the Task Force does want to ensure that recommendations eventually developed
for the Post Road /Coffman Park area do not negatively impact Tara Hill or surrounding areas. That
is the reason this study is accommodating comments regarding Tara Hill. He encouraged the Tara
Hill residents to proceed with their petition for Council. Another group will then pursue a Tara Hill
traffic study.
Kimberly O'Brien, 6097 Tara Hill stated that after the last Task Force meeting, they calculated
the numbers given in the traffic study and ended with a 9 percent increase in the morning peak
hour and 13 percent increase in the pm peak hour. With the current count of 2,700 cars on the
road, that increase is not insignificant. She noted that access to the Shoppes at Athenry has
increased traffic on that end of Tara Hill. She noted that the completion of the new high school
would not significantly reduce the traffic on Tara Hill. Most of the students from the Muirfield
neighborhood are traveling down Brand Road to school — that traffic will be impacted. Also, the
traffic volume is not high school related nor confined to the am and pm peak hours. In the
middle of the day, she counted 75 cars passing her drive in a 15- minute time period.
Mr. Blosser inquired if Ms. O'Brien's assessment is that the numbers in the Parsons traffic study
add up differently than the study indicated.
Ms. O'Brien responded that in the comparison of: (1) the Assessment of Current Roadway
system — Alternate 2 and (2) #3 Comparison of Future Road Net Alternatives, the numbers do
not match.
Mr. Clear clarified the numbers for Ms. O'Brien, explaining that the projections are based on
future 2020 land use conditions, assuming build -out to the west, first with Post Road open, then
with Post Road closed.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that in crafting a WIN -WIN solution for the park expansion, all parties
would have to compromise. On Post Road, there are long- standing residents who are facing
industrialism and commercialization of their area, the employees of Metatec have to be assured
access to their place of work, the residents of Tara Hill must be assured that the traffic situation
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will not be worsened, access to the Rec Center will be changed — in short, many will give a little
in order to, hopefully, gain a lot.
Ms. O'Brien clarified that her point is that many changes have been approved in their area which
have individually increased traffic by a small percentage. Cumulatively, however, the traffic has
been increased significantly.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Post Road is a two -lane residential road with deep ditches, with a
business /industrial volume of traffic, moving in excess of the speed limit. There are issues for
residents of this road that Council hopes to address with this plan, also.
Mr. Blosser stated that much of the groundwork has been laid by the study of this Task Force
and the residents' input. The residents can now take this forward.
Matt Holman, 5390 Tara Hill stated he lives on the side of Tara Hill near the high school. Is
there money set aside in this project for Tara Hill issues?
Ms. Salay responded that there is not. The Task Force is conducting only a study of a proposed
Coffman Park expansion. It has no budget to proceed with the park expansion. The petition,
which the Tara Hill residents are circulating, will go to Council, and the direction, including any
budget, would be set at that point. The Task Force has already done much of the necessary
study, however. The difficulty is that Tara Hill is a collector street. Everyone traveling east or
west in that neighborhood must take Tara Hill. The objective would be to slow the traffic
through all means possible. Those obstructions would also discourage any cut - through traffic.
Mr. Holman inquired to whom the residents would appeal, if they believe that this group's
recommendation to close Post Road would increase the traffic on Tara Hill.... Council? He
commented that Tara Hill is a neighborhood of homes. Post Road is not a neighborhood; it has
businesses, offices, industry and a few homes. Why not make Post Road wider, more able to
accommodate traffic, and take all the traffic possible off Tara Hill? With all the Coffman Park
activities — the skatepark, the Rec Center and now the proposed amenities of the park expansion -
- if Post Road is terminated, Tara Hill will pick up part of that traffic. He noted that the problem
on Tara Hill is critical, yet the police do nothing. He calls them repeatedly, yet no patrol cars
show up, and traffic citations are rarely given. If the current volume of traffic on Tara Hill is
slowed down, it will be a parking lot. He has been told that the residents must do something,
but why can't Council do something? The residents are the taxpayers -- the City works for the
residents. Last year, he contacted the City. Ms. Crandall suggested that he write a letter to the
residents, which he had to fax to Ms. Crandall first, for approval. He did that, but this takes quite
a bit of his time. Isn't it the City's job to do all this?
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the first step only is the residents' responsibility. Once the majority of
residents reach agreement and a petition is presented to Council, the City handles the process
from that point on.
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Mr. Cline stated that he has lived on Post Road for 22 years. His five -year old child was nearly
run over by a speeding car, which lost control on a curve and slid sideways. There are residents
on the other end of Post Road in the Dublin Glen subdivision, who are concerned about the
speeding traffic. There is a serious concern for the children who are standing along the road
waiting for the school bus. However, the issue is not a desire to favor Post Road residents.
There are two issues driving Council's consideration of termination of Post Road: (1) The need
to make a unified City Hall campus for the City of Dublin. This is a long -term goal for Dublin.
If this campus is going to be the center of City government, does the road need to go down the
middle of the campus, or could it be unified? (2) If Post Road is terminated, the City can
alleviate some traffic concerns by having two left -turn lanes southbound from Emerald onto
eastbound Post Road.
Mr. Cline noted that the Post Road residents must concede an issue also. The traffic analysis has
indicated a future high volume of traffic heading to Metatec and the other industries in that
section. There is the need for a left turn lane onto Post Road, otherwise the intersection at
Perimeter and Post will not work. However, this can all work to the Tara Hill residents'
advantage. They are now focused. Much of the study has already been completed for them, and
they are in a "bargaining position" with Council. He encouraged the Tara Hill residents to seize
the opportunity while the City is focused on this situation.
Mr. Yoder stated that if the majority of the Tara Hill traffic is neighborhood - related, how could
the proposed remedies impact the volume significantly? The residents should proceed with the
petition, but there may always be a large volume of traffic on Tara Hill.
Tom Adams, 5971 Tara Hill stated that lie is 13 -year resident of Tara Hill. He supports the
park expansion project, but they do not want it to affect their neighborhood adversely. They
have acquired most of the required signatures for the petition, approximately 81 %. He
suggested that it might not be quite fair to require a 90% majority of the residents for the
petition. The City Engineer required signatures for the affected area, which is from Muirfield
Drive down to Literary, all the residences on Tara Hill, including the courts that come back into
Tara Hill.
Mr. Adams referred to an earlier petition submitted by Martin Road residents for which they
were permitted to obtain less than 90 percent support of the residents.
Ms. Salay stated that in that situation, the remaining homeowners were not present. They were
out -of -state and unavailable to reach. In that case, Council waived the 90 percent requirement.
In her opinion, requiring 90 percent support might be a little steep -- 80 percent would likely
satisfy the intent.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that they should try to get 90 percent, but if they end up with 84 %, they
should still be able to make their case.
Dan Hoss, 6911 Literary Lane, stated that a 13 percent increase in traffic is a significant impact.
He inquired how the community input is achieved — does that include everyone in the
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subdivision, or only the Tara Hill residents? The residents on the courts would not be as
supportive of traffic calming as the residents on Tara Hill.
Mr. Ciarochi responded that the City Engineer has identified a smaller, affected area for the
petition process. However, if Council decides to move forward with the petition, public
meetings would be held, at which the entire neighborhood would have input.
Mr. Hoss inquired if the traffic study tracked the number of people destined for the Rec Center.
Mr. Clear indicated that it did.
Traffic Study Focus — West Side of Study Area
Before public continent from Perimeter Drive residents, Mr. Blosser requested Mr. Clear to
present background on the traffic study findings and recommendations regarding Perimeter
Drive.
Mr. Clear stated that presently there is no southbound turn lane onto Post Road from
Avery /Muirfield Drive. If no improvements are made at this intersection, it will be necessary to
build a very large intersection at Perimeter and Avery roads. Even if enlarged, however, it will
not be effective. It would also be necessary to widen the intersection at Metatec -- to build a six -
lane road on Perimeter from Wilcox to Venture and Metatec. Their recommendation is to build a
southbound left -turn lane on Avery/Muirfield to Post Road, to widen Post Road, and install a
permanent traffic signal at that intersection. This will facilitate traffic from the west and north,
from the major development that is occurring and will continue in that area. At the intersection
of Avery and Perimeter, there would be a southbound right -turn lane onto westbound Perimeter.
Perimeter would be widened on the western side to allow double, northbound, left -turn lanes.
Double, southbound, left -turn lanes will mean widening Perimeter by one lane to make the
intersection work. No changes would be necessary at the Perimeter Loop intersection. Perimeter
would remain a five -lane roadway; however, it would be widened between Wilcox Road and
Metatec to allow a five -lane cross section. There would be no change on Perimeter east of
Metatec. None of this has changed from the previous Task Force meeting. However, they did
give additional study to the residential section of Post Road, which must continue to serve the
Metatec employees. Their recommendation is to install a traffic circle in this area to handle the
traffic.
On Post Road, Option One is to keep Post Road as it is, but add some significant landscape
buffers on the south side, infill the north side, and put all the amenities on the outside section
(bike trail, hiking trail, landscaping). This would be the least expensive alternative.
In Option Two, the recommendation is to install chicanes. The two -lane section would meander
the road throughout the area. To keep it within the existing right -of -way, it would be necessary
to add curb and gutter. That would not be necessary if additional easements are obtained; open
ditches would be possible. However, this would also have an effect on the existing landscaping
in the ditch area on the north side. More detailed studies would be needed.
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In Option Three, the recommendation is similar to what occurred on Woerner Temple near
Ballantrae, west of the large traffic circle -- a 17 -foot roadway with an 8 -foot center median.
This would require additional right -of -way. The median would be split, so that the residents
would have access to their drives. However, U -turns would have to be allowed in this section to
enable residents to go in the opposite direction of the traffic flow.
Ms. Salay inquired if there are any signalized intersections along Perimeter.
Mr. Clear stated that the only intersection that will meet a warrant for a traffic signal is at
Metatec.
Ms. Salay noted that she had been contacted by residents of Heatherstone, who are concerned
about a more limited access to Perimeter -- they presently have a difficult time exiting their
subdivision.
Mr. Clear stated that the access is difficult in that area. The alignment of the exits is not good,
and staff has discussed whether the access system could be re- thought, changing the access to
Wilcox Road, which is much calmer. It would be best to modify the access points, if possible.
He noted that the anticipated build -out on Perimeter would significantly increase the traffic
volume.
Mr. Yoder inquired about the placement of the chicanes.
Mr. Clear stated that he has placed them where Mr. Yoder's plan originally placed them
Mr. Cline referred to the homes in the Dublin Glen subdivision. When the houses are forced
back, the back yards are diminished. This will cause the children to play in the front yards,
which is much less safe. Also, it is not necessarily good to wall the houses off from the road
with a row of pine trees.
Mr. Clear stated that because the houses on the north side are well protected with a wall of trees,
the suggestion is that it might also be desirable for the south side.
Mr. Cline suggested that a row of deciduous trees, creating a canopy, would have more effect
reducing speed.
Mr. Clear stated that there could be two different focuses. In this case, it is probably less about
controlling the speed, and more with the amenity of the house. He has not heard from those
residents what their issues may be with Post Road. There is a more rural focus in this area.
Ms. Salay agreed that it would be beneficial to learn the residents' views.
Ms. Bergdall responded that her husband is president of the Post Road Civic Association. They
do have feedback from the residents. Traffic speed is a big concern to them. She expressed
favor of utilization of chicanes.
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Mr. Yoder noted that the reason vehicles travel Dublin Road at a slower speed is because of what
is along the road — deep ditches, stone walls, landscaping tighter to the road, all have the effect of
slowing traffic. Along with a chicane or two, similar items to those on Dublin Road could be
utilized along Post Road. It would be beneficial to lose the S.R. 161 feel, and try to achieve a
country lane effect.
Mr. Cline responded that there are no street trees along Post Road. Once before, the residents
tried to remedy this. They asked the City what the designated tree would be; the residents were
willing to install them.
Mr. Blosser inquired if right -of -way will be required for the suggested chicanes.
Mr. Clear stated that it would. To accomplish the necessary curvature, and maintain the open
ditches, right -of -way acquisition would be required.
Mr. Cline inquired if a combination of the two could be used — open ditch and curb and gutter
conditions.
Mr. Clear responded that Rings Road is both. Mr. Hammersmith's input would be needed
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if Ms. Bergdall would ask her husband to seek the residents' input.
He would prefer not to proceed on these issues until the residents' input has been obtained.
Mr. Blossser invited public comment.
Carl Karrer, 6746 Heatherstone Loop stated that he belongs to a condo civic association. He
inquired if it would be possible to have a copy of the report or plans that have been provided to
the other residents. He would like to have a copy of the plan that has been suggested. He noted
that lie grew up in Dublin, left in 1958 and came back a couple of years ago. His father served
on City Council when some major decisions were made regarding I -270 which energized
Dublin's growth. He suggested that speed bumps, such as those used in Waterford, would
discourage speeders, and a pedestrian tunnel under Post Road could handle pedestrian traffic. He
noted that his subdivision has no access to Wilcox Road. Their current situation discourages cut -
through traffic. He noted that a traffic light at Wilcox and Perimeter would help greatly.
Mr. Cline stated that he was involved with Heatherstone when it was developed. He believes the
reason they were not given access to Wilcox was that it did not appear to be the right thing to do
to achieve a secure feeling for the development. Wilcox was an industrial road, and Perimeter
Lakes was experiencing security issues, chaining off the rear emergency exit for a number of
years.
Traffic Study Focus — East Side of Study Area
Mr. Clear stated that two different approaches were taken for dealing with the eastern end.
1. In the first approach, the recommendation is for Post Road to be closed at Emerald
Parkway. This will allow this section of Post Road to be reused. There would be double left-
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turn lanes and a right turn lane, just as there is today. Eliminating the through movement, it will
allow two lanes to move eastbound; presently, there is only one lane eastbound. This then allows
double left -turn lanes southbound on Coffman Road /Emerald Parkway. Cutting off the western
lane significantly improves the operation of the intersection at Emerald and Post Road. No
changes to Perimeter would be necessary on its approach to Emerald Parkway. Double left -turn
lanes and a single right -turn lane would remain. It would be necessary to widen Perimeter to a
five -lane cross section up to Commerce Parkway, with two eastbound lanes, two westbound
lanes and a left -turn lane entering the Justice Center. The right -turn lane would go north. Traffic
signalization of that intersection would also occur. An eastbound through lane would be needed
on the west side of Commerce; access to the private property off of Commerce Parkway would
remain; and Post Road would remain open -- a traffic circle would revert traffic, if needed.
2. The second alternative is the same, except it is assumed the private property off
Commerce Parkway is no longer private development. In this case, the widening would be done
on the north side, which makes better use of the existing road system. It allows the westbound
lane onto Commerce Parkway. It still provides access to the Community Center, to the new
City Hall site, and ties it all together.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that lie prefers the second alternative. He believes the land should be
public land. He complimented Mr. Clear on an outstanding job. He has given the Task Force
the tools to facilitate their study, yet not given specific direction.
Mr. Clear clarified that the concepts in the plan were based on significant staff input.
Mr. Cline stated that he is interested in the two left turn lanes on Coffman eastbound to Post
Road. He inquired about the municipal need for those lanes.
Mr. Clear stated that there is a need. The City commissioned a study to evaluate whether these
two southbound left -turn lanes could be put in. As long as the fourth leg was maintained, this
option wasn't possible. However, if the western leg were eliminated tomorrow, the change could
be made with little ripple effect. The issue would be how to access to the Rec Center.
Mr. Cline stated that he was informed that this intersection was originally designed with this
potential in mind.
Mr. Clear stated that this was the original concept, prior to the Community Plan in 1997. The
reason this plan did not carry forward in 1997 was due to the fact that the traffic in 1997 was
considerably greater. A manageable level of development is occurring now, and this plan is now
possible.
Ms. Clarke confirmed that this was the original plan.
Mr. Combs stated that the Task Force has looked at possible uses of the Post Road parcels owned
by the City, including Council rings, nature centers, interpretive centers, etc. But tonight, he will
focus on the area between Commerce Parkway and Emerald Parkway. There are two alternative
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concepts for this area. One concept assumes that an additional land parcel would be purchased
by the City, as well as the historic farm site. If that does not occur, staff will take the previous
master plan and staff's layout, which was adopted by the Task Force. From that, they will
determine how to look at square footages, access and egress of internal road maps for the park
system.
Alterative One (without additional land acquisition)
• This plan places the new 80,000 sq. ft. City Hall building at the tenninus of Post Road as
a focal point.
• Parking to accommodate that size building would be located off the main entrance near
the intersection of Emerald Parkway and Perimeter Drive;
• A basic entry plaza with landscaped or terraced gardens along the main entrance,
providing short-term and long -term parking;
• Corning from Emerald Parkway across the bridge, there would be more of a pedestrian
focus; the intent would be to allow a major pedestrian thoroughfare to City Hall. Mr.
Combs stated that one of the major features staff is looking at with this expansion is how
to join different parts of the park and make them more cohesive. They are looking at a
pedestrian bridge to City Hall, or an architectural connection, perhaps similar to Cardinal
Health, joining the pedestrian system of the south side of the park to City Hall;
• Major access points to the site off of Emerald Parkway. Minor access would come from
Post Road — a park -like drive, curvilinear in design, that would access the Rec Center as
well as City Hall. In addition there is the existing municipal property next to the Justice
Center. The concept is to provide a fishing pond or water amenity that could be used in
conjunction with the pedestrian/bike systems past the Justice Center, with a potential
tunnel that would get them over to the City Hall site.
The plan helps to join the park on one side of Indian Run to the other side. It also has some
limitations as it is missing a piece that would allow major access to the site. There is also visual
disjointedness between the City Hall site and the Justice Center.
Alterative Two — With Additional Land Acquisition
If the last piece is acquired, it will allow much more flexibility with the design, not just for park
amenities, but also with access points to create a more formal edge to the park. There is a more
clearly defined edge along Commerce Parkway. This alternative allows opportunity to link the
sites and provide more park amenities. When coming across the Emerald Parkway bridge, the
view would be of a long body of water, terminated with an architectural feature — a boathouse,
pavilion, etc. This alternative allows better circulation, and a greater variety in open spaces.
Programmable spaces would be created, in addition to the pastoral areas along the historical farm
site. The strong point of this plan, however, is the visual connection between the Justice Center
and the rest of the site.
Task Force members complimented Mr. Combs on the two plans.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she prefers Alterative Two; however, if the City is unable to acquire
the parcel of land, how would that impact the plan.
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Mr. Combs stated that much programmable park space would be lost. To provide the necessary
vehicular access, the space must be consolidated.
Mr. Bergdall inquired if it would be possible to phase the development. It is not desirable to wait
20 years until the property is acquired to proceed with the park expansion. Could Alternative
One be done in the short term but expanded to Alternative Two whenever the land would
become available to the City?
Mr. Combs stated phasing the development is possible. The tree row buffer on Perimeter could
be removed now, and the water feature added in the future.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if, as a compromise, the City could buy the piece on Commerce and
sublet it to a commercial enterprise for a time, to recoup some of the cost.
Mr. Combs stated that would be possible, although it would be necessary to buffer the uses.
Mr. Yoder inquired if the sizes of the buildings and parking areas are based on actual projection
of need.
Mr. Combs responded that the 80,000 sq. ft, two -story building is based upon a previous study of
need.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the size of the pond concerns him. However, because the land is no
nondescript, perhaps it isn't possible to landscape it meaningfully.
Mr. Combs stated that it is similar to the golf course development. This is a flat side. Grading
makes it possible to make a substantial change visually. The pond allows a quick impact.
Mr. Cline agreed. All that can be seen of forestation is the edge of it. With the pond, everything
is spread out visually. This fits with the concept of making this the heart of the City. For years,
planners have been saying that the City needs a core from which everything radiates. This
provides that core.
Ms. Salay stated that City Hall can be either a focal point or be tucked away to blend with the
landscaping. How does Planning envision the municipal office portion of the park?
Mr. Combs responded that they see the municipal offices as a high visibility focus point.
Mr. Blosser inquired if Planning could suggest a plan for phasing this corridor, as well as the
remainder of the park. There seems to be a consensus on the existing Post Road option, adding
one chicane and additional landscaping or curbing, if needed.
Mr. Cline noted that the intent was to get the input of the residents on the other end of Post Road
before proceeding with the plan. The Task Force doesn't want to invite criticism by moving
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forward without the citizens' involvement. There are presently three options to present to them
for their input.
Mr. Blosser stated that since the Task Force has a consensus, that could be built into the
proposal, giving the Post Road residents the opportunity to view the preferred concept.
However, all three concepts would be available for discussion.
Mr. Kranstuber referred to the suggestion to phase the land use, noting that there is only one
parcel to acquire from one owner, and there are no residents. There would be no need to phase
development of the site.
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force can make a recommendation to buy that property;
however, since the City presently does not own it, there must be a version of the plan that does
not include it.
Mr. Cline stated that Alternate A and B can be shown, but Alternate B would be recommended
Ms. Bergdall stated that if it were not possible to acquire the property for 15 years, the park
expansion would not wait.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he favors moving forward with the purchase.
Mr. Cline stated that there is the potential of losing it, if the City does not move forward.
Mr. Blosser stated that until the land is purchased, the Task Force must have a plan that
incorporates the properties currently owned.
Mr. Cline stated that Council indicated in open session recently that they would be meeting to
discuss future land acquisition and prioritizing those proposed purchases. Perhaps this Task
Force should forward copies of these two drawings and the Task Force's recommendation that
acquisition of this piece be placed high in priority. This area will be the center of Dublin for all
time. It is important that the opportunity to have a connected site not be missed.
Mr. Yoder noted that Council would be missing a tremendous opportunity if they make a large
investment in the buildings and infrastructure, yet not secure an available area for the City to
grow into in the future.
Mr. Blosser stated that he would endorse sending copies of these two plans to Council along with
a preliminary recommendation for immediate land acquisition before Ms. Salay stated that the
message could be that the Task Force has reached the opinion that acquisition of this land is
critical.
Mr. Cline stated that at a minimum an executive summary of the study could be forward to
Council.
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Mr. Blosser moved that copies of staff's two versions of the proposed park expansion be
forwarded to Council along with the Task Force's endorsement of Alternative 13 and
recommendation for purchase of the Thomas property.
Mr. Cline seconded the motion.
Vote: Yes — 7, No -- O
Mr. Cline inquired about another building of approximately 80,000 sq. feet. The King
Thompson building would be of similar size.
Mr. Clear indicated that that the Emerald Professional Building on Venture Drive is
approximately 66,000 sq. feet.
Mr. Yoder stated that at the Task Force's next meeting he would like to see a further refinement
of this plan and how it would fit in with the remainder of the park.
Mr. Cline inquired if Planning has been working with the Parks staff on park ideas, as Planning
would have significant input regarding the development of those ideas.
Mr. Combs responded that at this point they have not.
Ms. Salay stated that now that the traffic issue has been addressed, and the proposed road
network in relation to the park has been clarified, it would be advisable to move on to discussion
of the park elements. How will the eastern side of the park transition to the west? What is the
future for the farmhouse in which the City Manager temporarily resides? The Community
Relations building?
Mr. Blosser inquired if the Committee would like to defer further discussion of the park elements
until the Post Road residents' input has been received.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she preferred proceeding with the park element discussion.
Ms. Salay stated that she preferred to bring the western Post Road residents into the discussion at
this point. Following their input, she would also like to see some cost comparison on the various
traffic elements — the median, the chicanes, etc.
Mr. Blosser stated that before the next meeting, he preferred having community input. Perhaps
advertising the next Task Force meeting along with an invitation for public comment on some of
the concepts would be advisable. For that meeting, it would be necessary to narrow the options,
rather than presenting them all for public comment.
Ms. Salay stated that an in -depth discussion of those options should be a separate meeting with
the Post Road residents. She stated she would be willing to attend such a meeting and facilitate
that discussion. Perhaps Mr. Clear would also attend. Does this group envision the proposed
traffic elements presented to the residents, or discussion of actual park elements?
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Mr. Blosser stated that he believes that this group should narrow the options before presenting to
the Post Road residents.
Mr. Cline inquired if the roadway improvement between Avery Road and Metatec is a Planning
or Engineering issue.
Mr. Yoder stated that the Committee would need to select from the proposed traffic features.
Once that has been done, Mr. Combs can "flesh" out the plan.
Mr. Clear stated that the Committee has indicated a preferred alternative for the eastern end of
the park. His drawings need to be modified to reflect Mr. Comb's plan. On that, the traffic
circle is eliminated. He needs to meet with staff and develop a roadway plan that fits the
preferred land use plan. They would meet with Mr. Hammersmith to discuss the engineering
aspect. At the next meeting, they could return with the revised drawing, a cost estimate, and
identification of the right -of -way needed.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that if the intent were to move this to the design stage, it would be necessary
to hire a consultant to do the design from both the landscape architecture and the civil
engineering perspective. However, before that stage, he would advise showing a couple of
options to the public. It would not be advisable to invite the public to seek their input, and then
show them what has already been decided. The next meeting would be a good opportunity to
present the options the Committee has reviewed. He advised against narrowing the options too
much. It would be beneficial to obtain the public's buy -in at this point - it's their front yard.
Ms. Salay stated that discussion of those ideas should be with the residents who are impacted in
an interim meeting, rather than deferring to the next Task Force meeting. The residents meeting
would also be a public meeting.
Mr. Cline suggested that Mr. Ciarochi and Mr. Clear also attend the meeting with the Post Road
residents.
Mr. Yoder stated that after the Post Road meeting, those preferences could be referred to Mr.
Combs and Mr. Clear. They can further refine their plans before the next Task Force meeting.
Mr. Cline stated this group has not arrived at a consensus on the primary elements they want to
see integrated into the plan. Staff requires this direction.
Mr. Yoder stated that it is advisable to allow staff to prepare an overall view of the entire park
along with the Mr. Clear's refinement of the traffic features.
Mr. Cline inquired if the Committee is asking staff to design the park for the Committee, or is the
Committee giving them direction on what to design?
Mr. Yoder responded that the Committee is asking them to develop a proposal
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Mr. Cline stated that he has not arrived at that point in the process. For instance, although he
suggested a mini -farm, he is not committed to that idea. He does not necessarily want to see it
incorporated in the design at this point.
Mr. Blosser stated that he also does not believe the Committee has reached the design stage. A
rough positioning of the elements on paper, with the recognition that some of those will be
moved, would be adequate for further study.
Ms. Brautigam stated that her understanding is that less than a year ago, the Parks staff presented
a conceptual drawing of the proposed park expansion to Council, which was not favorably
received. Consequently, she would be uneasy instructing staff to read the minutes to figure out
what this group wants, and devise another concept plan. Her understanding was that this group's
intention was to get input from the community on what the residents want for the park
expansion. Mr. Ciarochi's comments are applicable for this side of the park also. It would not be
advisable for staff to come up with a concept plan based on Task Force minutes.
Ms. Salay agreed with Ms. Brautigam's comments. It would be useful to have a "blank slate"
when discussing plans for the land. She would also like to see how it would tie in with the
Metropark in the northwest.
Mr. Yoder inquired if she intended to present the "blank slate" to the community, then
incorporate their suggestions with the Task Force's ideas.
Ms. Salay stated that she was unsure how public input would be solicited and received, perhaps
at a meeting on park elements only?
Mr. Yoder suggested that it would be better not to initiate discussion with a "blank slate," but
with a plan containing the basic elements that are already there — ponds, bikepaths, trails, tot lots,
etc.
Ms. Salay stated that although staff's earlier concept was not approved, there were many good
ideas incorporated in that plan which fit in well with the passive character desired in the west. A
"bubble drawing" would be helpful as it piques interest and encourages more ideas.
Mr. Yoder stated that his original drawing included prairie land and woodlands. He assumed
those types of elements would be included in the proposal.
Mr. Blosser inquired if the Committee has now reversed from the blank slate to a drawing of
proposed elements.
Mr. Cline stated that the missing element for him is identification of the recreational needs of the
community. What does the community have a shortage of or need more of?
Mr. Yoder stated that some ideas should be suggested as a starting point for discussion.
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Mr. Blosser stated that he would like to obtain as much public input as possible at the next
meeting. The majority of the public will show up because of the traffic concerns. He asked
David Ball, Community Relations, for ideas to secure public input.
Mr. Ball stated that this is the first meeting he has attended. His directive was to attend the
meeting, then return to the office and develop a recommendation for a communications plan for
this body and this process. His initial suggestion would be to ask the public what they would
like to see in the park, as opposed to proposing a big picture and asking what they would want to
change in that picture.
Ms. Salay stated that there is one caveat to what he has suggested. It is necessary to keep the
land west of here very passive in nature. Although she is an advocate of public input, it is
important to solicit public input that can really be used. Dublin may need more soccer fields, but
nothing active is going in this park. She suggested that some of the work staff has already done
should be incorporated into the message, perhaps providing examples of features that would fit
with the residential character of this park.
Mr. Ball agreed. It could be just as valuable to specify components that would not work, such as
the soccer fields.
Mr. Cline stated that there may be some type of active uses that would be appropriate in this
park.
Ms. Bergdall suggested that the Ballantrae water park is a nice public area for younger children;
something similar could be appropriate.
Shirley Roy, 6682 Heatherstone Loop stated that she decided to attend tonight's meeting after
reading the article in last week's paper about the closing of Post Road. When something affects
a citizen personally, they will respond. If the message is that this park will not have soccer
fields, proponents of soccer fields will attend. She suggested that careful wording would draw
supporters of the park expansion.
Mr. Ball stated that he can post the meeting information at the City's website, at the Community
Recreation Center, and at City Hall.
Mr. Cline inquired if the next meeting discussion will focus again on the roadways or on the park
elements. He pointed out when the Task Force forwards an endorsement of Option 1B to
Council, that will also give an indication of its final recommendation regarding the portion of
Post Road within the unified municipal campus. Further discussion on that issue would probably
take place before City Council rather than before this body.
Mr. Blosser stated that he would like to specifically offer the public the opportunity to comment
on the subject. A few citizens have learned of the discussion and showed up to comment, but
public input has not been specifically invited.
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Mr. Cline stated that he would also like to focus on the park elements.
Ms. Salay agreed. Perhaps the meeting could begin with an open house. Conceptual drawings
and photos could be on display for the first hour. Public input could be taken after that, and
comment cards could be distributed.
Mr. Yoder stated that the road system is "roughed in'; the next meeting will allow opportunity to
"rough in" park elements, including the public's input.
Following discussion, the next meeting was scheduled for Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 7:00
P.m.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 11:10 p.m.
Ass nt Clerk of Council
Post Road Civic
Association Meeting
Tuesday, October 8, 7 p.m.
City of Dublin Municipal Building - Council Chambers
5200 Emerald Parkway
Topics:
1) Update on the Coffman Park Expansion and proposed diversion of Post Rd at
Coffman.
2) Traffic calming options for the west end of Post Rd.
Ward representative Amy Salay will be present to hear residents' input on the plan.
Please plan to attend! If you are unable to do so, please contact Pat Costello with your
ideas /comments. Hope to see you on the 8 " i1 .
Pat Costello
5886 Post Rd
791 -1181
e -mail: bergdall + @osu.edu
(revised 10/24/02)
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Tuesday, October 29, 2002
7:00 P.M.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
U. Roll Call
M. Approval of Minutes of September 23, 2002 Meeting
IV. Regular Meeting
• Report from Council Member Salay Re. Post Road Civic Association Meeting
• Task Force Comments on Communication Plan.
• Staff/Consultant Recommendations Re: Combination Park/Traffic Study.
• Public Participation
V. Next Meeting Date
VI. Adjourn
Enc: 9/23/02 Task Force Minutes
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
October 29, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Keith Blosser, Chair
Chuck Kranstuber
Amy Salay
Chris Cline
Bill Yoder
Kay Neffenger
Roger Eastep
Valerie Bergdall (excused)
Staff:
Jane Brautigam
Frank Ciarochi
Paul Hammersmith
Gary Gunderman
Fred Hahn
Mary Newcomb
David Ball
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Ms. Salay moved to approve the September 23, 2002 Task Force minutes as presented. Mr.
Cline seconded the motion.
Vote Yes — 6; No — 0; Mr. Eastep abstained.
Traffic Study Report
Doyle Clear, Parsons Transportation Group stated that he was hired by the City to study traffic
engineering aspects of the park. Current and projected conditions were evaluated in
conformance with the Community Plan, including updated information regarding land use and
developments in and around the study area. The study area included portions of Avery - Muirfield
Road, Post Road, Perimeter Drive, Perimeter Loop, U.S. 33 /S.R. 161 interchange, Emerald
Parkway, Tara Hill Drive, and Coffman Road. They were asked to study three alternatives: (1)
continuing Post Road as a through roadway; (2) connecting Post Road to Commerce Parkway
and Perimeter Drive; (3) removing a section of Post Road, upon determination that the remainder
of the roadway system continued to function properly. After reviewing those options, the Task
Force selected Option 3 for continued study. The study then looked at the eastern edge of the
site in terms of access to the park and City Hall. There are two alternatives: access continuing
off Post Road and a second that will be described by Ms. Newcomb. There are five alternatives
for the roadway on the western end. A meeting was held with the citizens who live on or near
the western Post Road corridor. Various traffic- calming measures were considered, such as a
median or chicanes. The residents' preference was for a larger median in Post Road near the
lake on the south end. Subsequently, the last park plan was developed with that proposed
roadway infrastructure.
Ms. Newcomb, Planning Department, stated that the parkland expansion area would extend west
from the City Municipal Building to the Recreation Center and via the bikepath west to the Red
Trabue Nature Preserve. The Task Force has been looking at expansion opportunities for that
area. Ms. Newcomb noted that the 1988 Community Plan looked at creating a central City Hall
within the Coffman park area. She pointed out that the new conceptual plan on display tonight
would provide access to the Recreation Center from Emerald Parkway via Commerce Parkway.
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The existing Coffman Park Drive would remain as well. Pedestrian/bike paths would provide
connections throughout the park. There are passive /active pond areas. If some of the more
costly traffic- calming measures are not selected, the suggestion is to incorporate dense
landscaping along Post Road as a means of calming the traffic.
A citizen requested clarification of access to the Recreation Center, as proposed by the most
recent Task Force plan. Ms. Newcomb described the proposed access.
Mr. Blosser stated that due to the level of public response, public comments would be taken prior
to continuing staff discussion. He noted that the Task Force's directive is not to entirely re-
create a plan for the Coffman Park area. The Task Force is working within the parameters of the
existing vision of City Council and the City Community plan. Consequently, the expansion plan
must incorporate the plan for a new City Hall within the park and primarily maintain a focus on
passive park elements. More recently, Council also passed a resolution to purchase the
remaining, privately owned properties within the park area, should they become available for
sale. The Task Force has held several meetings and developed a conceptual plan for the park.
The Task Force would like to hear the public's ideas for park components.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the City's web site offers the opportunity for the public to comment via
email. Approximately 50 entails have been received and copies of those emails have been
provided to the Task Force tonight. One response is from Africa — the writer expressed an
interest in wetland preservation.
Mr. Blosser invited public comment. He noted that public comment cards are also available in
the lobby for use by those preferring not to comment publicly.
Toni Taylor, 7180 Innisfree Ct stated that she is responding to the City's invitation to suggest
park elements. Her suggestions are: (1) a miniature golf course, (2) 5 -6 shuffleboard courts, and
(3) a Frisbee golf course.
Mr. Blosser noted that the City has a Frisbee course at the corner of Woemer Temple and Nom
Street. A second one is being constructed near the new Metro Park and new high school.
Mr. Cline noted that his son has played Frisbee golf for several years. He has commented that
the layout of the course at Woerner Temple is unsafe.
David Knisely, 7735 Richens Drive stated that he is probably the oldest user of Dublin's
skatepark. He urged that the skatepark remain part of the Coffman Park.
Jack Downing, 5296 Guinness Ct., stated that the area in which he lives backs up to the Coffman
Park site. He is a trustee on the Board of the Homeowners Association. He commended City
Council for making the community a desirable place in which to live. He stated that there is a
problem with Valley Down being used as a cut - through to Tara Hill Drive. There are many
small children living in that area, and there have been some "close calls" involving children.
Some traffic calming measures, such as speed bumps, are suggested for this area. He urged that
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such measures be expedited. He stated that Post Road has advantages. Rather than close it,
perhaps access /egress to both sides of the park could be achieved via a bridge over the road. The
park would be divided into two sections, which would enable the City to limit certain activities
to one side of the park. It would also be integrated to the other side via the bridge. Not only
pedestrian and bike traffic would be enabled, but maintenance carts could move between both
areas. Along with the additional landscaping suggested for Post Road, the crossover would be an
attractive feature to the park.
Matt Holman, 5390 Tara Hill Drive stated that last year Myers - Schmalenberger conducted a
study of this area. Their assessment was that Post Road should not be closed, and they suggested
a bridge to connect the two separate park areas. This earlier study was rediscovered after the last
Task Force meeting. Mr. Holman met with one of the senior planners to obtain copies of the
various studies and plans for this area, and the Myers - Schmalenberger study and
recommendation was uncovered. Subsequently, Mr. Holman called the project manager of
Myers - Schmalenberger, who was incredulous that the Task Force was considering closing Post
Road after the results of their study. Mr. Holman suggested that Council review that earlier
study and contact them with any questions.
Mr. Holman stated that at Council's last meeting, the residents of the Tara Hill area presented a
petition to City Council requesting that a traffic study of the Tara Hill area be conducted.
Council approved their request; they also agreed that no action would be taken on the Task
Force's recommendation until that traffic study was completed. He suggested that recently the
Task Force has channeled its vision toward the closure of Post Road. However, it would be
wiser to be proactive and have two plans — one with Post Road closed and one with Post Road
left open. Myers - Schmalenberger offered a plan in keeping with their recommendation to keep
Post Road open, but they offered two alternative plans. The citizens have been invited to come
and view a concept plan. However, the only version made available to the public to view is the
option with Post Road closed. The public has the right to be made aware of the three versions
which Mr. Clear proposed. Could staff prepare a drawing of the alternatives for public view?
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the Task Force obtained a traffic study from an outside consultant
with no prejudice. The study indicated that the closing of Post Road would have little negative
impact on the roadway system. So, although Council could opt not to close Post Road, if they
should choose to do so, there will be an imperceptible impact on other streets.
Mr. Holman stated that at the last Council meeting, two Council members expressed concern
with the suggestion to close down another east -west artery. Post Road is a much -used artery.
He requested that at future Task Force meetings, all three options be displayed. This is the
citizens' choice, and they have the right to that information. The residents of Tara Hill do not
believe that closing this east -west artery would not impact the traffic on Tara Hill.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that if Post Road remains open, the land across the creek would not remain
passive greenspace. It is highway frontage. The reality is that there would eventually be hotels,
16,000 sq. feet of office space and thousands of employees. Although that type of development
would bring substantial revenue to the City, it would also greatly increase traffic. However, City
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Council has a strong commitment to a philosophy to remain as green as possible, and to that end,
Council will potentially purchase the adjacent land, also removing it from production. If that
should not occur and the park expansion does not happen along with the closing of Post Road,
the residents in this area will experience a less desirable traffic situation.
Mr. Holman inquired about the need to close Post Road to accomplish the park expansion. Why
couldn't a bridge over Post Road connect the two sections of the park, as suggested by the
previous speaker?
Mr. Blosser responded that there may not be an absolute necessity to do so, but the benefits of
doing so may substantially outweigh the alternatives.
Mr. Holman inquired why, if there is no necessity to close it, no map or drawings have been
prepared of an alternative.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that if Council had considered the park expansion 30 -40 years ago,
this would not now be a discussion matter. Post Road would not be there, running through the
center of the park. If the closure of Post Road would affect traffic in other areas adversely, it
would not be closed. The statistics indicate a negligible impact on the other streets. He
encouraged the citizens to use the current issue as an incentive to have the traffic issue addressed
in their neighborhood.
Carl Karrer, 6146 Heatherstone Loop:
(1) Stated that two of the options shown at the previous Task Force meeting depicted an easy
access to the Recreation Center, with Post Road remaining unchanged up to the present
Recreation Center entrance, then a traffic circle diverted the traffic in opposite directions
within the park. The plan displayed tonight indicates a lengthier access to the Recreation
Center. Many senior citizens who travel from the west use the Recreation Center. He
urged that the earlier Post Road access to the Recreation Center be used in the plan.
(2) Suggested that broader plans for the Dublin park system be developed. This plan focuses
only on Coffman Park. Will this park link to Glacier Ridge Park? Does one park
complement the other?
(3) Suggested that the City web site include more information on this project and the park
site.
(4) Suggested that the City expand the traffic study area. Closing Post Road is not the only
factor to impact Tara Hill. U.S.33 westbound from Avery to the I -270 interchange is one
of the most congested in Dublin, and drivers avoid it by taking Post Road to Frantz Road.
Can this section of U.S. 33 be made more manageable?
(5) Requested that traffic- calming options other than chicanes be selected. Traffic can be
slowed safely, but narrowing the road or making it more crooked will invite more
accidents.
Mr. Blosser invited Mr. Karrer to attend Parks and Recreation Commission meetings to share
park ideas and better understand the City's overall park plan. This Task Force is focusing on the
Coffman Park area.
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Mr. Kranstuber referred to Mr. Karrer's comment about the congestion on Avery Road. He
noted that when I -270 was being widened, the previous City Manager had checked with ODOT
regarding the possibility of an I -270 exit onto Emerald Parkway near Cardinal Health. The City
Manager was informed that ODOT regulations would not permit the ramp at that site due to
insufficient distance from the previous exit.
Mr. Ciarochi added that the City will be participating with MORK and ODOT in an MIS
(Major Investment Study) of the U.S.33 /S.R. 161 corridor from Post Road to I -270 and from I-
270 south to I -70. Significant interchange improvements on I -270 and an additional lane both
directions on U.S.33 /S.R. 161 are being evaluated. The City has included funding in its five -year
CIP for a local match to the project. It will probably take 1 %2 years to complete the MIS, and
five to ten years to complete the project.
Mary Barrow, 6075 Tara Hill stated that she lives near the intersection with Avery - Muirfield
Drive. She has difficulty entering her driveway, due to the speed of traffic. She agrees with the
position that Post Road not be closed; however, if the City decides to proceed with that action,
speed bumps must be constructed on Tara Hill. Stop signs are ineffective. She suggested sand
volleyball courts as an option for the park expansion.
Mr. Cline noted that although only passive uses are being considered for the western section of
the park, there is the potential for limited active uses in the eastern section.
Mary Mahota, 5375 Tara Hill Drive stated that there is already a high volume of traffic on Tara
Hill, and she is concerned about the impact of the closure of Post Road on Tara Hill. Where will
all the present Post Road through traffic be routed if Post Road is closed?
Mr. Blosser stated that this is the question posed to the traffic consultant. He requested Mr.
Clear to respond.
Mr. Clear reviewed the scope of the traffic study completed for the Task Force and summarized
the results. He noted that the traffic study completed for the City's Community Plan a few years
ago anticipated a higher level of development for this area than has occurred and concluded that
Post Road could not be closed. The new study looked at the lower level of development which
has occurred and is anticipated, and concluded that Post Road could be closed. The "Achilles
Heel" in the City's roadway system is the intersection of Perimeter Drive and Avery Road, and
part of the package suggested for this project includes improvements for this area, along with
improvements to Post Road. He stated that their study projects a minimal increase of traffic on
Tara Hill in the pm hours, if Post Road is closed — approximately 25 cars. However, when the
third high school is completed, the traffic volume will decrease. The through traffic movements
on Post Road will be handled effectively by moving traffic down Post Road and making a left
turn onto Perimeter Drive. One of main benefits of this closure would be the T intersection
created. Double left turns from Coffman /Emerald east onto Post will eliminate the present traffic
queue. This will improve the traffic situation in the entire zone.
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Mr. Blosser noted that the traffic studies and minutes are available to the public upon request.
The remainder of the discussion tonight will be limited to suggested park improvements.
Fritz Monroe, 5349 Shannon Park Drive stated that his property backs up to the Coffman Park
Drive. He uses the park daily. He is concerned about the increase of traffic on Coffman Park
Drive. He suggested that the earlier access to the Recreation Center, as depicted in the previous
draft plan, be used. The City's maintenance buildings could also be relocated to Commerce
Parkway. This would remove some of the interior traffic from the park. There are issues that
must be addressed, but he supports the closure of Post Road. Having a through road through the
center of the park defeats its purpose. He has a background in education, and proposes that the
park be used in conjunction with school programs, such as those focusing on wildlife and
landscaping.
Ross Youngs, 7048 Willowrun Drive voiced his support for the Post Road corridor study dated
October 30, 2002. He owns two lots on Post Road, has lived in/around Dublin for 17 years, and
has seldom driven Tara Hill — he avoids it. In his opinion, the traffic problems there are
neighborhood - generated. He supports the closure of Post Road.
Julie Phelps, 6290 Post Road stated that a meeting of Post Road residents was held last evening
to discuss this issue. An earlier meeting of the residents was not well attended due to insufficient
communication, so a second meeting was held. She offered comments from the residents. The
residents acknowledge that the City is growing to the northwest, and there will be an increase in
traffic. They accept the need for left turn lanes at Post and Avery roads and appreciate the
traffic- calming measures suggested for Post Road. The residents would like to request the
following:
(1) Events occur in a sequence, rather than simultaneously, and the remedies should be
operational before the road is closed.
(2) The speed limit be lowered to 25 miles per hour.
(3) "No truck traffic" signage be installed.
(4) Information be provided on how drainage ditches will be handled. How will the water run-
off problem in this area be handled?
(5) Support incorporation of a traffic circle at Metatec and prefer a median and landscaping
buffers on Post Road as traffic- calming measures. Initially, the landscaping idea was not
favored, as the use of evergreens was conceptualized. However, this new plan uses street
trees or ornamental trees. She noted that approximately five years ago, the City staff,
working with the Driscolls, developed an attractive plan alternating three or four ornamental
trees along Post Road. Is that plan still available?
(6) Consider adding sewers to the north end of Post Road, while the roadway is torn up. Some
of the residents are having problems with their septic systems, and this would be an
appropriate time to resolve this problem.
Ms. Phelps noted that several years ago, the master plan included the intent to terminate Post
Road. A model of the master plan once sat in the lobby of City Hall, and when she purchased
her home on Post Road several years ago, she was informed that the road would be closed.
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Mr. Cline stated that he was initially dismayed when Mr. Clear presented his traffic report and
indicated that an increase in commercial /business traffic was anticipated on Post Road, and that
their recommendation was that southbound left -turn lanes be added from Avery Road to Post
Road. Although this is contrary to the earlier plans for Post Road, the residents are receptive to
the idea. They only ask that this traffic be slowed down and made compatible with the
neighborhood.
Ms. Phelps stated that the road could not handle the left -turn lane without measures to deal with
the subsequent traffic.
Mr. Kranstuber requested that before the next meeting, City staff look into the potential of
prohibiting the truck traffic, addition of a City sewer line, and lowering the speed limit.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that prohibiting through truck traffic on Post Road would require that there
be a designated truck route through the community. Local truck deliveries could not be
prohibited. Staff will measure elevations, and a cost estimate for addition of sewer will be
developed.
Mr. Hammersmith stated that after the Post Road residents meeting, staff researched the potential
of "No through trucks" signage. However, either a designated truck route must be added or the
City ordinances must be modified regarding truck traffic.
Mr. Cline stated that at Muirfield and Post roads, the trucks bottle up traffic, and cross over the
curb and tear up the landscaping. Should truck traffic be permitted in this area?
Peter Berryman, 6982 Raymond Drive, stated that he lives immediately off Tara Hill Drive. He
stated that the traffic study does not address the amount of traffic that will turn to Tara Hill,
which currently travels from Coffman Road to Avery Road and head north. He does not believe
the increase in traffic to Tara Hill would be merely 25 vehicles. He conducted his own analysis.
Over the course of two weeks he followed 100 cars on that route, and approximately one -third of
the through vehicles from Coffman to Avery turned north. Those vehicles will likely divert to
Tara Hill, if Post Road is closed. [He distributed a summary of his findings.] He requested that
the City take a closer look at providing a real solution.
Mr. Blosser noted that Lee Grabill, representing the residents of the Willowgrove Condominium
Association across the street„ has requested that the City study the potential for a "no right turn
on red" at the Coffman Park/Emerald Parkway light.
David Bromwich, 6300 Post Road reiterated the need to slow traffic to make it safer for the
residents. Although the residents are willing to compromise, they do not want to carry an unfair
burden. He requested a balanced solution.
Jodi Emick, 6813 Valleydown Road president of the Shannon Village homeowners association,
stated that their homes back up to Coffman Park. Her major concern is the safety on Coffman
Park Drive. The traffic on Coffman Park Drive does not travel 15 miles per hour and traffic
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calming measures are seriously needed, particularly if the volume of traffic increases with the
park expansion. She also noted that the accesses to the Recreation Center are convoluted, and
requested that the City look at improving access. She added that traffic calming is also a serious
problem within their neighborhood, and they will be presenting a petition to Council requesting a
traffic study.
Mr. Cline stated that there has been some discussion that if the suggested configuration of the
park is approved, perhaps some of the major events, such as the Irish Festival, could be moved
further south and away from the Shannon Village neighborhood.
Jun Wu, 6158 Avocet Ct ., stated that he uses Post Road daily for his commute. If Post Road
should be closed, he will use Tara Hill Drive.
Jonathan Wray, 5423 Tara Hill Drive stated that if Post Road is closed, he is concerned that
Downpatrick will become a preferred route to the Recreation Center from Tara Hill. He is also
concerned about the volume of traffic that will be added to the park. He noted that Tara Hill
becomes a parking lot when there is an event in Coffman Park, and trash and tire marks are left
behind in his yard. He supports having events such as the Irish Festival moved further south. He
offered the suggestion of a fenced dog park for the park expansion. He also suggested that the
addition of wetlands to the park be limited in order to control the amount of mosquito spraying
which will be required in this area.
Public comments concluded.
Mr. Blosser complimented David Ball on the Task Force Communication Plan. He requested
clarification on what information is provided on the web site regarding this issue.
Mr. Ball stated that all the schematics are not on the website. The traffic plans were too detailed,
and it was not practical to post them. A few plans are provided, along with the agendas and
minutes.
Mr. Blosser suggested that the schematics be reduced to a size that could be provided as
handouts to the public. He has received public requests for this information.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the full -size maps could be made available for public view either at City
Hall or the Development Building. Also, if the Task Force would indicate which map they
would like used for distribution, staff will photograph the map and reduce it to a smaller size that
can be copied, probably 11" x 17". Some of the detail would be lost, but the concept would be
provided.
Mr. Blosser stated that there have been four or five maps that focus on the concepts the Task
Force has reviewed. He will provide that list to staff later this week.
Ms. Salay reported on the meeting of the Post Road Civic Association. The first meeting
scheduled with the residents was not well attended, so a second meeting was held yesterday,
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October 28 " The residents discussed the traffic calming options suggested by the traffic
consultant for western Post Road. Ms. Phelps and Mr. Bromwich have summarized the
residents' comments well.
Mr. Blosser inquired about Council activity regarding related issues, such as the Tara Hill
petition for a traffic study.
Ms. Salay stated that the Tara Hill petition was presented to Council four weeks ago. Mr.
Hammersmith is evaluating the scope of a traffic study for that area. Council also agreed not to
take action on the Task Force recommendations before the Tara Hill traffic study has been
completed and reviewed, which would impact the Task Force timeline.
Mr. Hammersmith reported that staff will meet with a traffic consultant later this week to discuss
the scope of the study. They will be looking at an area larger than Tara Hill Drive, including an
area bounded by Avery - Muirfield Drive, Post Road, Brand Road, and Coffman Road.
Following discussion, the next meeting was scheduled for Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 7:00
p.m. If Council Chambers is not available, the Justice Center may be used. A following meeting
was also scheduled for Monday, December 2 "d , in Council Chambers.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
Assistant Clerk of Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Thursday, November 21, 2002, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
5200 Emerald Parkway
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
H. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of October 29, 2002 Meeting
IV. Regular Meeting
• Task Force Comments re. Public Feedback/Ideas
• Task Force Comments/Review of Staff Plan
• Recommendations for East and West Area of the Park
• Public Participation
V. Next Meeting Date — December 2, 2002
VI. Adjourn
Attachment: Staff Plan — Coffinan Park Expansion
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
November 21, 2002
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Staff:
Keith Blosser, Chair
Frank Ciarochi
Chuck Kranstuber
Paul Hammersmith
Amy Salay
Bobbie Clarke
Valerie Bergdall
Carson Combs
Bill Yoder
Fred Hahn
Roger Eastep
Barb Cox
Chris Cline (arrived at 8:50 p.m.)
Others
Kay Neffenger (excused)
Tim Lecklider
Doyle Clear
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Eastep moved to approve the October 29, 2002 Task Force minutes as presented. Ms. Salay
seconded the motion.
Vote: Yes — 5; No — 0.
Mr. Blosser stated that tonight's discussion would focus on the east or active side of the park
expansion. At the next meeting, the discussion will focus on the west or passive side of the park
expansion. During the last few months, different ideas for park components have been
discussed, and at the last meeting, members of the community shared ideas for the park
expansion. He asked that task force members share their opinions as to which of those ideas
should be incorporated into a concept plan for the park.
Mr. Yoder shared a tally of the citizens' preferences for park components. He suggested that the
list might be beneficial for a preliminary design. He also suggested that the activities for smaller
children be separate from those for older, more active park users.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the task force has welcomed the citizen input, but in the end, the task
force will have to select the components that fit the overall plan for the park. For instance, picnic
areas in a naturalized setting and swing sets will fit. However, there would likely not be the
space or money for indoor tennis courts, and although he strongly supports aquatic activities, a
waterpark would be overwhelming in this park. The City already has a total of seven swimming
pools. A train would also be problematic. The remainder of the suggestions appear to be viable
options for the park.
Mr. Kranstuber added that although the traffic issue is not a topic of discussion tonight, he would
like to encourage task force members to continue to talk to the individuals on Tara Hill and other
key areas regarding their concerns about potential traffic impact. Based on Mr. Clear's traffic
study and the proposed traffic - calming measures for Tara Hill, he is convinced that in the end the
City will not only create an awesome park, but Tara Hill's traffic problem will also be addressed.
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It is important that the residents understand that the park expansion has presented the opportunity
and stimulus to have their traffic issues addressed. This will work to their advantage.
Mr. Eastep suggested that in future discussions, the verbiage be clarified. The proposal is not to
close Post Road, but realign it. Post Road will remain open and operational. It would be
beneficial to market the plan accurately.
Mr. Eastep agreed that ADA accessible playground equipment should be considered for the park.
He inquired if staff is has researched availability of such equipment.
Mr. Hahn responded that the existing Coffman Park playground is ADA accessible; however, it
is not as accessible as it could be. There are different levels of handicap and accessibility, and
specific park components are available to address specific needs.
Mr. Yoder stated that one public comment was that although the playgrounds may be ADA
accessible, wheelchairs do not move easily over the mulch. The City should have one area that
addresses that problem, perhaps with astro turf.
Mr. Hahn stated that there is one City park which addresses that need for a child in the adjacent
neighborhood -- a rubberized surface was installed. He noted that there is also a type of mulch
available that a wheelchair can maneuver. He added that there is combination park equipment
available, which can also be used by those who are not similarly disabled. However, it is
difficult to find equipment that can be used by all special needs situations.
Mr. Eastep, expressed support for the shuffleboard suggestion. This would provide an activity for
the senior population. Upper Arlington has a large shuffleboard interest group.
Mr. Hahn agreed that it would be an inexpensive, simple park component.
Mr. Eastep suggested that entry -level skating areas be included -- flat pavement with a couple of
gravity bumps. The present skatepark meets the needs of more experienced skaters. He also
suggested sand volleyball.
Mr. Halm stated that the one in Heather Glen Park was removed at the request of the residents.
Mr. Salay stated that the sand volleyball court in Heather Glen Park was located in a detention
basin of the park. The sand was often wet and a mold problem developed. Some of the
residents were concerned that it posed a health risk.
Mr. Hahn added that there is a popular sand volleyball court at Avery Park.
Mr. Eastep added that the train and the petting farm are available at the Columbus Zoo, in close
proximity to the community. Those elements would be too expensive to maintain in Coffman
Park. However, the park could easily accommodate a nature center. In a transition area, a
shared garden /crop area could work.
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Mr. Kranstuber inquired if Mr. Halm had any other suggestions for the park.
Mr. Halm stated that Coffman Park has the only outdoor basketball courts, and they are very
popular. When the weather permits, the courts are used until the timer turns the lights off.
However, it is difficult to place basketball courts where they do not bother residents.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired Mr. Hahn's opinion of indoor tennis courts.
Mr. Hahn stated that there is some interest in the community. However, indoor courts require a
significant amount of square footage for only a few participants — a high cost per participant.
The City does have several outdoor tennis courts -- three lit courts at Coffman Park and three
"marginal" courts at Avery Park. There may be some unmet demand. If the new swimming
pool site expands beyond the current acreage, it has been suggested that outdoor tennis courts be
added there.
Ms. Salay suggested that the bike trails /walking paths within the park be looped throughout,
providing multiple accesses. She expressed support for a nature center in the wooded area as a
transition between the passive and active sides of the park. She expressed support for a special
needs playground. Dublin school district has an outstanding reputation for meeting the needs of
special needs children, and the community would appreciate a playground designed for heir use.
She stated that the public comment that additional wetlands could draw mosquitoes is valid. It
maybe better not to introduce more wetlands with the present West Nile virus problem. She
expressed an interest in a prairie /wildflower area and in a perennial, sensory garden. Such a
garden offers a range in different smells and textures. A sensory garden would offer a visual
amenity, but it would appeal to the unsighted as well as the sighted.
Ms. Salay expressed agreement with the public comments that there be a better entrance off Post
Road or Commerce Road to the Recreation Center than was depicted in the last plan. It is
desirable to discourage the use of Downpatrick as an entrance to the Rec Center.
She referred to a suggestion from Mike Jenkins for a tennis practice wall. This is a good way to
learn to play tennis or practice hitting balls.
She stated that the necessary staffing needs would discourage the suggestion for petting zoos or
trains.
Ms. Bergdall referred to her suggestion for a train for the children. A good place to observe this
park feature is at Carillon Park, and their train is not at all like the train at the Columbus Zoo.
Volunteers provide the necessary staffing for the service /attraction. She noted that there is a
significant need for activities for the young children, and train - oriented activities are a major
attraction at that age. She suggested that a garden railroad could be a way to aesthetically
respond to that interest. She noted that the September garden train rides are generally well
attended. Ms. Bergdall clarified that the garden railroad is a G- gauge, outdoor model railroad; it
does not require a large amount of space.
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Ms. Kranstuber stated that Council would be sensitive to operating costs. He noted that the park
is intended to be primarily a natural setting, and it would not be appropriate to place too much
"stuff' in the park. Perhaps the train would be appropriate in the playground area, running
around the perimeter of the play area. The hand crank trains would not be high maintenance or
require staffing.
Ms. Bergdall stated that this is a big draw for the younger age group. Families participate in
train - related activities /trips with their children. The whole kindergarten class is interested in
trains. If the task force could come up with a train that would fit in the park, it would be well
received.
Ms. Bergdall referred to the waterpark idea, and suggested that the citizens were not looking for
a high- activity waterpark, but something similar to the Ballantrae waterpark. She provided a
photo of a waterpark in Fort Wayne, which provides simple water play for the younger children.
Ms. Salay inquired if the Ballantrae waterpark was expensive to install and maintain.
Mr. Hahn stated that it was very expensive both to install and maintain. It has more pumps than
the City's entire outdoor swimming pool program. However, in that case, the play was
secondary to the visual impact. The little spray park installed at the City's outdoor pool was a
fraction of the Ballantrae cost. No staffing is mandated.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that there is often a drainage issue with some splash parks. However, the
squirt gun feature at Homestead Park does not require use of chemicals and has no drainage
issues.
Ms. Bergdall stated that an older age group uses the squirt gun park. She suggested a splash park
that would draw the interest of younger children.
Mr. Blosser stated that a waterpark area was originally planned for the present skatepark site in
Coffinan Park.
Mr. Hahn confirmed that the 1995 -96 Coffman Park expansion plan provided for a waterpark in
the skatepark area.
Mr. Blosser inquired if there were subsequent plans to install a waterpark near the outdoor public
pool.
Mr. Hahn stated that phase one, a small water play area, was installed this year at the existing
outdoor pool. The new outdoor pool in the southwest area will incorporate water play features in
the pool design.
Mr. Blosser inquired if phase one at the present pool would be followed by a phase 2 with more
water play features, such as Homestead Park offers.
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Mr. Hahn stated pumps were installed that would allow for later expansion, if there was a
demonstrated need. But that would not be a squirt-gun park; it would be more of what is
currently provided.
Mr. Bergdall expressed support for a nature center. It would offer the community an educational
opportunity. She noted that the area is already a wetland area, so there should not be concern
that there would be an additional mosquito problem. It is assumed that the City would provide
even greater maintenance to the area than it presently receives. The dead vegetation could be
cleared away or left as it is in its natural state, as it is presently home to wildlife, such as mink
and fisher. She added that it would make sense to locate the nature center next to the pond on
the Nyrop property to take advantage of the established nature. She discouraged addition of
raccoons and owls due to public health issues. Permits would be required for that type of
wildlife. It would serve the public better to leave it as it is, perhaps adding microphones in the
trees to pick up the bird sounds.
Ms. Salay noted that Dave Motts from the Ohio Wildlife Society would be a valuable resource
for this focus. He is extremely knowledgeable, practical, loves his work and could be an
excellent educational resource for the schools.
Ms. Bergdall added that the proposed fire ring would fit well into the nature center environment.
An impressive example of a fire ring was incorporated into last year's Home and Garden show.
Mr. Eastep stated that the park would easily accommodate two fire rings, one by the nature
center and one in the passive park area, perhaps close to the cypress trees on the Halloran
property. The Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts could use the site for campouts. A fire ring at the
nature center could be used as an amphitheater for group presentations, and a second fire ring
would be a true fire pit.
Ms. Bergdall referred to the suggestion for lighted tennis courts. Does the school have lighted
courts and are they available to the public? Would this be a partnership opportunity with the
schools?
Mr. Hahn stated that, although it is not publicized, the schools allow public use of the courts at
times they are not being used by the schools.
Mr. Blosser stated he believes there should be a more direct access to the Rec Center than the
present plan provides. Earlier plans offered a more direct access. However, the last revision of
the plan is very close to what the task force has envisioned. He discouraged "packing in" park
amenities. It is important to retain as much greenspace as possible. In addition, it should not
stretch the City's ability to maintain it well. There is finite space available. He suggested that
the "oldies, but goodies" park activities would be best, which would include: another basketball
court, a couple of lit tennis courts, a shuffleboard court, and a sand volleyball court. The
neighborhood park at Wyndham Village has a sand volleyball court, which is very popular with
the neighborhood. He also expressed support for an ADA/handicapped accessible playground.
All those activities are low cost /low maintenance. He does not support the addition of putt -putt
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or Frisbee components. He noted that the new area in Inniswood Park, Westerville, includes: a
secret garden, a mini maze, a boardwalk through the woods, and a mini interactive farm with a
working windmill. He suggested that the Task Force members visit Inniswood Park to view
these amenities. He expressed support for a wildflower meadow and a more formal sensory
garden. He also supports the addition of a kiddie interactive pool. An email from Pat Enright
expressed a concern about creek water quality. Water parks could impact the creek, and an
important consideration will be to protect the creek. The rule of thumb should be the simpler,
the better. He is undecided about the train suggestion.
Ms. Salay stated that if there were interest from a group such as a railroad society to construct
and maintain the train, it could work. Also, it could be removed, if there was not sufficient
public interest.
Ms. Bergdall stated that it would be necessary to give the society a certain amount of money to
set it up. There are some beautiful examples. There is an example of a model train on private
property on Bright Road. It is an aesthetic amenity, incorporated into the gardens, on less than
one - quarter of an acre.
Mr. Kranstuber referred to the suggestion for a wildflower area. Perhaps it could appear
naturally, with the pond transitioning to cattails, then wild grass, then a wildflower meadow. It
would add texture to the landscape. He inquired if Ms. Salay was suggesting a location near the
current Community Relations building.
Ms. Salay responded that she had envisioned a wildflower meadow next to the watch house, near
the Rec. Center. The sensory garden would be a more formal setting.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he would support the incorporation of the babbling brook/small
waterfall affect into the garden plans.
Ms. Bergdall encouraged that the park elements be placed so that there is a natural flow of the
elements from one side of the park to the other.
Ms. Salay stated that it would be important to carefully plan the pathway system. Parking should
be integrated into the park, avoiding the use of large, asphalt parking areas. The view of the park
must be protected from all directions.
She inquired about the use of the present farm buildings. Will they be utilized or will they
remain simply as reminders of the rural past. In what condition are they? Will it be necessary to
rebuild them?
Mr. Hahn responded that there is only one historic barn in the park area, and that is the main barn
on the Thomas property. He met with the Thomas family about the main barn. They indicated
that the barn is in good condition and worth saving. He added that although the City does not
need that type of storage, the barn should be saved on the basis of the visual backdrop it would
provide for the park.
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Ms. Salay inquired if the barn could be utilized for any purpose.
Mr. Hahn responded that there is no practical use. There could be Code issues.
Mr. Eastep inquired if it could be used as a partial shelter. Code issues could be avoided if the
barn remained as part of a farm, an agricultural use.
Mr. Yoder stated that he checked the structure. It is in good condition; it only needs "sprucing."
Mr. Hahn referred to the barn at Bristol Commons, which was retained on the site for aesthetic
purposes. Initially, the barn appeared in bad shape. The City invested $35,000 in it, and now it
provides an attractive entrance to the neighborhood. It was a small price to preserve a 100 -plus
year old barn.
Ms. Salay stated that the Thomas barn is the little brown building to the northwest of City Hall.
She inquired about the City's other storage buildings.
Mr. Hahn stated that the large modern building was constructed for storage. The smaller
building was leased from the telephone company.
Ms. Bergdall inquired about the potential of moving the equipment from the storage facility to
the barn. The storage buildings are unsightly.
Ms. Salay pointed out that the buildings also occupy a highly desirable spot next to the creek.
Mr. Eastep inquired if the storage buildings are necessary, or could they be eliminated.
Mr. Hahn responded that the buildings are completely packed. They provide clean, dry storage
for sensitive items, which a 100 -year old barn cannot provide.
Mr. Eastep stated that it would be better to have access to the barn than prohibit access. The post
and peg barn is a rarity seldom seen today. It is part of the community's heritage, and offers a
valuable educational resource for the City. The post and peg construction is a phenomenon to
be appreciated. The City should find an appropriate way to utilize the opportunity.
Mr. Yoder stated that a post and peg barn could be dismantled, moved and reassembled on a
more desirable site. It is presently too close to the proposed City Hall site.
Mr. Eastep agreed, but added that the historic barn does, however, effectively communicate the
City's motto: "Where yesterday meets tomorrow. " This structure, which was here before the
City became a village, is now located next to the new City Hall. The barn has great potential.
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Mr. 'Blosser stated that the historical barn has that potential, but the remainder of the outbuildings
on the farmland could be removed. He noted that the new City Hall would be two stories high.
The barn will not be seen.
Mr. Eastep stated that if the barn is moved, he would advise placing it in the middle of the
wildflower garden, with no road leading to it, only walk paths. This would eliminate the
potential of anything motorized being pulled into it. During the peak of the wildflower season,
this would be a beautiful focal point.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the task force has essential consensus on all items. He noted that the
components discussed tonight, however, are primarily phase two of the task force's
recommendations for a long -term plan. Phase one, which is what the present Council would
pursue, is to purchase the land, seed /sod the land, build the pond, build the infrastructure, move
the Rec Center drive, and realign Post Road. Phase two would be the task of a future Council.
Mr. Kranstuber suggested that the ideas discussed tonight could be incorporated into a
preliminary site design. Either the Planning and Park staff, or a consultant, could mull the ideas
over and see how they could fit into the basic infrastructure of the park. Try them out ... see how
these elements could work together. 'Perhaps too much is proposed.
Ms. Salay agreed that it would be important to ensure that they don't overwhelm the park.
Mr. Blosser inquired if it would be better to begin with the final product, then move backward.
First, identify another site for the Thomas barn within the park, and then add some of the final
components. If those don't work, eliminate something. However, do not add any parking lots.
If anything, the intent will be to eliminate some parking.
Mr. Clear Parsons Transportation Groff pointed out that relocating the drive to the Rec Center
would affect the entire park plan. He suggested that the Task Force reconsider this. He and
planning staff believe the road in the plan is appropriate. He explained staff's reasoning for its
placement. The only negative comment was primarily from the senior citizens that the access
would be too convoluted; they desired a straight, direct access. However, straight access will
also encourage a heavier volume of traffic.
Ms. Salay responded that some Tara Hill residents also expressed concern that if the proposed
access to the Rec Center were convoluted, that traffic would select Downpatrick as a more direct
route.
Mr. Clear stated that their road design also accommodated the future location of the Irish
Festival, as well as remains consistent with the overall park system. Also, there are multiple
access points in the system. If the basic roadway infrastructure is acceptable, staff can
manipulate the interior components.
Mr. Yoder stated that the barn would be a focal point with which drivers would orient
themselves, and the drive will not be confusing.
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Mr. Eastep added that the park drive would be so beautiful that drivers will enjoy the scenic
drive. The City's road system and scenery is phenomenal — two more minutes drive will be
enjoyable. He inquired if it would be possible to make a right turn only out of Downpatrick.
What are the engineering pros and cons?
Mr. Clear stated that when the Rec Center was built, the intent was to provide three good access
points in view of the anticipated level of traffic to the Rec Center. However, there is not a large
volume of Rec Center traffic coming from Downpatrick. He noted that Downpatrick existed as it
is before either the subdivision or Rec Center was built.
Ms. Salay stated that many of the residents who attended the last public meeting came away with
a better understanding of and were more supportive of the plan. Some of the emails expressing
oppositions were clearly written without an understanding of the proposed realignment. Perhaps
more public education is needed. Although some may remain in opposition, many will not after
they understand how the plan will work.
Mr. Kranstuber emphasized the importance of focusing on educating the community and gaining
their support before the plan is presented to Council. The three primary points to be clarified are:
(a) the proposed Rec Center drive alignment, (2) the realignment only, not closure, of Post Road;
(3) the reality of what will occur if the park doesn't happen. A soybean field will not remain. A
major commercial development will occur with hotels; 90,000 square feet of office development;
single - family homes replaced with apartment developments; and an escalated level of traffic.
The Coffman Park expansion plan is the best plan for all the community. He noted that Emerald
Parkway will function more efficiently with the proposed changes, and the present traffic
movement will be improved.
Mr. Blosser stated that although there is more work to do, the City's traffic calming plans are
encouraging the community.
Mr. Yoder suggested that the City staff who work on the traffic- calming program should be
encouraged to also focus on the educational component of their program. This is where the
problem will be solved - -- with a community buy -in.
Ms. Salay noted that she was concerned with the tendency of a few Tara Hill residents to make
this a neighborhood versus neighborhood issue -- someone suggested widening Post Road and
increasing the speed limit. That tone will work to the Tara Hill residents' detriment. It is
difficult to listen to individuals who are that uncooperative.
Mr. Yoder stated that when the southwest area traffic - calming plan was developed, the
neighborhood met and thoroughly discussed the issue. hi the end, the residents supported a plan
that was not perfect for any one resident but was better for the community as a whole. It is
hoped that the same attitude will evolve in this case.
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Ms. Salay inquired if the consulting firm hired to perform the Tara Hill traffic - calming study
would be able to utilize Mr. Clear's study and traffic- calming ideas, or would all the effort be
repeated.
Mr. Hammersmith responded that the consultant would take advantage of the information
compiled by Mr. Clear.
Mr. Blosser stated that, following Mr. Clear's explanation, he would support leaving the Rec
Center drive as it is. He requested that the concept plan include a splash park for young children.
Mr. Yoder clarified that staff would develop a hard design of the infrastructure — phase one, but a
soft design of the components, phase two, would be proposed to fit within the infrastructure.
Mr. Blosser clarified that the design is not requested until after the next meeting.
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 2, 2002, at 7:00 p.m. in Council
Chambers.
Mr. Eastep moved to adjourn the meeting.
Ms. Bergdall seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion Yes — 6; No — 0
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 9:00 p.m.
Assistant Clerk of Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, December 2,2002,7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
5200 Emerald Parkway
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
H. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of November 21, 2002 Meeting
(deferred to next meeting)
IV. Regular Meeting
• Overview of Homestead Condos on Post Road: Speaker - Pat Grabill
• Task Force Comments re. Public Feeiiback/Ideas
• Task Force Comments/Review of Staff Plan
• Recommendations for West Area of the Park
• Public Participation
V. Next Meeting Date
VI. Adjourn
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
December 2, 2002
00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Keith Blosser, Chair
Chuck Kranstuber
Amy Salay
Valerie Bergdall
Bill Yoder
Kay Neffenger
Chris Cline
Roger Eastep (excused)
Staff:
Frank Ciarochi
Bobbie Clarke
Barb Cox
Fred Hahn
Others
Pat Grabill
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Blosser moved to table approval of the November 21, 2002 Task Force minutes to the
January Task Force meeting.
Ms. Bergdall seconded the motion.
Vote: Yes — 6; No — 0.
Mr. Blosser stated that the first item on the agenda, Overview of Homestead Condos on Post
Road, will be moved to a later position on the agenda, pending arrival of pertinent meeting
materials. Mr. Blosser explained that he requested Mr. Grabill to share information regarding
plans for a condominium development, Homestead Communities, which is anticipated for Post
Road. Since a significant part of the development will face Post Road, it will be beneficial to
discuss the impact it will have on the surrounding community.
Mr. Blosser invited discussion on the second agenda topic -- recommendations for the
west/passive side of the park expansion.
Ms. Neffenger stated that she walks daily in the western section of the park. She appreciates the
passive status of the park; however, she does have a few suggestions for improvement:
(1) addition of exercise stations, (2) additional trashcans, (3) trash bags for dog owners' use.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she lives in the western section of the park. She suggested that
landscaping along the bikepath/walking path be implemented to visually connect this area of the
park to the existing Red Trabue Park. A general clean up of accumulated trash and underbrush
in the area of the ditch is needed. There is also a large field west of the Community Relations
parking lot, on which there is a large mound of dirt remaining from construction of the parking
lot a couple of years ago. Either trees or wildflowers could be planted in that field to enhance the
view. She inquired as to the City's plans for that dirt.
Mr. Hahn responded that it is intended to fill in the foundations following the demolition of
certain buildings, which were expected to have occurred already.
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Mr. Cline stated that he and his wife have walked the park area daily for several years, so they
have had ample opportunity to look at the park area. Much of that area already functions
successfully as the neighborhood park for Indian Run Meadows, Dublinshire, and Hemingway,
and it is important not to diminish that. They have the following suggestions:
(1) Open up the Halloran tract between the creek and the bikepath, clean out the fence row,
which would open up the property to the existing Indian Run Park, as well as the bikepath.
Extend the bike loops through there, but perhaps reduce the eight -foot width of the bikepath in
that area and make it more of a walking trail. Add quiet places for reflection, not gazebos or
shelter houses, but something more natural, such as stone benches.
(2) Address security issues. Where the brush is overgrown, there is the potential for hidden
activities. The open, visible areas of the park encourage use.
(3) On the two open lots, identify passive use /uses. The mini -farni idea has been discarded;
perhaps simply plant trees and extend the bikepath through it. Perhaps a bikepath loop could
also be extended across the front of his land (Cline property), the Kinman property, and the
adjacent City land. This would give a two -to -three mile run within the park system itself.
(4) In the future, some of the properties on the periphery might be appropriate for City- sponsored
condominiums for senior citizens. In his opinion, residences around the park make it more
usable than less. It is an urban park, and anything built there, private or public, ought to be done
in park -like materials and colors.
(5) Add native wildflower /special plantings, along with endemic stands of trees.
Ms. Salay inquired about plans for the area west of the new Rec Center parking lot.
Mr. Hahn responded that a need for additional parking is not foreseen. He is unaware of any
plans for the area. It is anticipated that Community Relations will relocate to the new City Hall
when constructed, and the existing facility /grounds would be available for a future, undefined
use.
Ms. Salay: (1) stated that the idea of council circles has been discussed. She believes there is a
similar feature in the Donegal Cliffs Park. At the bottom of the hill, near the river, there is a
stone patio in a circular shape within a semi - circular wall, which is used for a river lookout. This
feature would fit well on the Halloran property; (2) inquired if the Task Force intended to make
recommendations for the Community Relations building. If so, that discussion should occur
soon and be incorporated into the recommendations for Council.
Ms. Bergdall stated that the bikepath is the primary feature of the park, and there is a safety
hazard where the Community Relations driveway crosses the bikepath. The Community
Relations employees have slowed down when crossing, but there are some vehicles, perhaps
unaware of the bikepath, that speed through or turn around in the bikepath area.
Mr. Cline stated that there have been some vehicles that have driven down the bikepath itself.
Ms. Salay inquired if this appeared to be inadvertent.
Mr. Cline responded that it has been done with intent, and even recently. A City employee drove
down the bikepath this past weekend.
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Ms. Bergdall stated that Mr. Hahn is usually made aware of such incidents.
Ms. Salay suggested that when the dirt is removed from the land adjacent to the Community
Relations parking lot, that trees be planted to screen the facility from the Tara Hill residents.
Mr. Blosser stated that lie supports maintaining the area primarily as greenspace. As the study
has progressed, he has altered his view of the area as one park. I-Ie now perceives it as a
community park on the west end and a municipal campus /active park on the east side. He is
concerned that there be sufficient buffering between the two sides. He is also concerned about
preserving the river and water tables — that they not be affected by overuse or activity. He also
favors soft destination spots, ancillary to the bikepath use, including gardens and landscaping.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that his views have also evolved regarding the park. Two parks have now
become apparent. He believes the construction of the new City Hall will take care of the
existence of the Community Relations building. It may not be the most efficient use of valuable
space -- a building and a couple of acres used by a department consisting of eight employees.
Mr. Cline stated that if the question were asked if that building should remain a working,
municipal office, that all Task Force members would say it should not.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that if the construction of City Hall does not occur within the expected
timeframe of five — ten years, perhaps relocation of that office from the park area could be
considered. It would be an interesting study: what is the cost of that building per employee, and
could renting space in the private sector provide it less expensively?
Mr. Kranstuber inquired of the Task Force members who live within the park area if they
consider the Community Relations building compatible with the park.
Ms. Bergdall responded that it has been made even more unsightly by the ADA decking added
around the building. She would suggest tearing the building down; it does not fit in with the
character of the park at all. In addition, with the intersection of vehicle traffic with the bikepath
on that site, an "accident is waiting to happen," as long as the site is active.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired about the residents' opinion regarding further residential or other
development in the area between their homes and the Halloran property. Is it compatible?
Ms. Neffenger stated that she does not actually live in that area, and has not explored the
concept. She deferred comment.
Ms. Bergdall responded that when she uses the bikepath, she feels more comfortable if there are
people to observe her and give assistance, if needed -- eyes and ears equal security. However,
the type of development being proposed makes a difference. It would have to be something
aesthetically compatible with Dublin character and park character.
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Mr. Kranstuber inquired her opinion regarding compatible or non - compatible sites, for instance,
the area from the white farmhouse up to the Halloran property.
Ms. Bergdall responded that additional neighbors from a nice development would add a greater
degree of comfort.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that a conceptual plan for development has been informally discussed. Is
a formal discussion desired before Mr. Grabill's presentation?
Mr. Blosser deferred discussion until Mr. Grabill's presentation.
Pat Grabill stated that he is supportive of the Task Force's work. Initially, they had hoped that
the Red Trabue Park would be the catalyst for a linear park through the community, and it is nice
to see that happening. He explained that Red Trabue was his uncle, and the nature preserve was
named after him.
Mr. Grabill explained that he started in the real estate business in Dublin in 1976. He acquired
King Thompson, which he sold two years ago. He then bought interest in Continental
Homestead Communities. He noted that he joined Continental Communities after their rezoning
application was reviewed and disapproved by the City. They presently have three condominium
communities and anticipate acquiring two additional communities this year. He believes this is
an excellent site for this development. His interest is partly due to the fact that the park is
adjacent to the site and would contribute to a positive living environment for potential residents.
The neo- traditional communities are comprised of detached condominiums -- the residents have
separate homes, yet the exterior is maintained for them. The homes have porches, basements and
rear - loading, two -car garages. The major portion of the fagades of one -third of the homes will be
natural stone; all units will have a water -table wrap of stone. He defined the concept site on the
south side of Post Road. There is a large pond on the south extremity of the site. The three
communities: the Preserve, Highland Lakes, and Scioto Reserve, revitalize the town square
concept.
He noted that it is necessary to achieve a price point on the development that would make sense
for them to proceed with the development. The plan for this community is significantly higher in
price points than the other three, primarily due to the land and material costs. In an attempt to
lower the cost, they reevaluated the landscaping and amenity packages. They eliminated soone
items unnecessary for this particular community, which is anticipated will be made up of age 50+
citizens. Mr. Grabill stated that the original zoning was for 76 units, which was negotiated to 70;
their new proposal is for 75 units. They've altered the setbacks, as they were designed for
industrial use, not residential. He reviewed additional amendments to the original plan.
In response to Mr. Blosser's inquiries, Mr. Grabill indicated that Continental filed a rezoning
application today for development of 75 units on 22.4 acres at a density of 3.13 units per acre.
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Mr. Cline stated that it was necessary to do a complete rezoning because the current zoning is for
a particular plan with a specific number of units. The new plan is for an additional three units.
He added that the site is across the road from the Coffman park area under discussion tonight. It
will extend along Post Road a distance of 2,000 feet.
Mr. Grabill noted that it is a good transitional use, situated next to office /warehouse use.
Mr. Blosser stated that he considered it necessary to discuss the plans for the park in light of the
anticipated development across the street. Undoubtedly, more residential development will
occur directly across the street from the passive park area.
Mr. Grabill noted that this type of development has no impact on the school system.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it would alter the numbers in the traffic study. Mr. Clear had
projected development that would result in increased traffic on Perimeter and the surrounding
area. This development would not negatively impact Perimeter. However, at this time, it would
be inappropriate to discuss the plan until P & Z and Council have reviewed it.
He stated that the Task Force has had specific discussions about landscaping along Post Road.
In regard to mounding -- if an attractive building is built, why hide it? Post Road is disjointed,
and uniform landscaping was proposed to tie all the elements together, not to hide the houses.
Mr. Grabill stated that this plan would include landscaping consistent with the park landscape,
and would make a Post Road landscaping plan financially feasible for the City.
Mr. Cline stated that the residential plan is being discussed sufficiently early to allow
opportunity to integrate all the elements and accomplish a unified feel the length of Post Road.
Mr. Yoder distributed copies of a concept plan for development within the park area.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the plan incorporates ideas he discussed with Mr. Yoder and which he
proposes for Task Force discussion. He stated that as the study has evolved, it has become
evident that this is a linear park, and that it will incorporate different purposes than the other City
parks. He has also come to the conclusion that development is not entirely inconsistent with the
park. The Task Force members are enthusiastic about the design for the park area prepared by
Mr. Combs, Planning Division; however, the cost of such an undertaking will be significant.
This plan proposes a way in which to meet that financial challenge. The plan marries the park
features with some development. He noted that Mr. Yoder's plan has some specifics that he
would not approve, but the specifics aren't critical — it is the concept proposed.
Mr. Yoder agreed that this plan suggests a concept only, which is intended to initiate discussion.
No specifics are particularly recommended.
Mr. Blosser stated that he has had an opportunity to review the concept plan. That is the reason
he asked Mr. Grabill to also share the plans for the new community across the street. At the
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beginning of the Task Force study, the proposal was to tear down most of the existing residences.
As the study has evolved, he also has come to the conclusion that it is a better idea to keep the
residences to protect the nature of the neighborhood park. The neighbors will help to police the
area. However, this land is expensive. Revenues are down, and the City is prioritizing land
acquisition. This plan proposes a way to pay for the park expansion. He endorses the concept.
Mr. Yoder stated the park is linear. The intent is to protect the stream and stream area. All the
park area on the north side of the stream would remain as parkland — three pieces on the west end
and two pieces on the east end.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the homes would remain in private ownership, but the City would buy
the small section of their back yards, from the creek on.
Mr. Yoder stated that it is important to protect the land along the creek through deed restrictions
in a landscape easement, making it a no -build zone. That should not be difficult to obtain. On
the Halloran property ( a City -owned section at Post Road and Wilcox), however, there would
not be a no -build zone. There, the park extends to Post Road. It would provide an access point
for the condo residents to the park.
The City owns ten of the park properties. Before selling any of those, the City would retain
easements along the creek. The Halloran property includes #'s 1 through 3 on the list. It is not
necessary to sell all three; the City could sell only #1, a condominium site. He cautioned that the
values noted on the plan are rough estimates only. The Halloran property is four and a half
acres. If it were sold at $100,000 /acre, it would give the City $450,000 and provide an attractive
condominium development within the park area. There are five Tara Hill residence sites. At
$70,000 /lot, that would give the City another $350,000. There is a small lot on the south side
that would make more sense as single - family than as part of the condo development next door.
Between the two, there is room for a bikepath and foot bridge across the stream. Next, there is a
Post Road access area, currently owned by the City. Then, there is a small Post Road access,
currently owned by the City. Perhaps that could be sold to the Kinman family for about $50,000.
The City would like to keep a center section of that property as future parkland dedication area.
Next to this, there is a potential site for nine homes on the north end and four homes on the south
end. He noted that #5 on the plan is the Wadsworth property; #6 is the Segner lot; #7 is the Orrer
(Dantzer) property. The farmhouse could be sold for $250,000. The lots could be sold for
approximately $80,000. Number 8, the Johnson property, would be two lots -- approximately 2/3
acre lots, and could be sold for $150,000. Number 9 is the former Anderson house and #10 is the
former Layman house, on which easements could be retained, and the remainder sold. There is
also a home left on the north side, which was slated for improvements. The value of those
properties totals approximately $2 million.
Mr. Yoder stated that there is also Mr. Cline's property. Mr. Cline has indicated that if
necessary, he would be willing to allow the bikepath to cross his property.
Mr. Cline stated that this discussion began when City Council realized that it didn't have as
much money to work with as in the past. Mr. Kranstuber subsequently called Mr. Cline and they
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discussed ways in which to generate the necessary finances. He and Mr. Yoder then walked the
properties and discussed the range of possibilities. With the Kinman property, he would.
recommend that an open vista to the park area be preserved, not residential development. It may
also be preferable to limit the condominium development to senior citizens. Council will make a
decision, which will be financially driven.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that this proposal is not entirely financially driven. He is not convinced
about the wisdom of developing the last three properties — Nyrop, etc.
Mr. Cline stated that the main focus would be to make the linear park connection work.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired about the Costello, Layman, etc. properties.
Mr. Cline stated that since the farmhouse has been reoccupied, he has come to the opinion that it
should be preserved. Also, the Bergdall property represents a heavy commitment to the park
ideal. They have been sensitive to the park environment, and he would prefer to see that home
preserved. Where Commerce Parkway intersects Post, a natural break in the park is created -- at
the Nyrop home. However, he has made a commitment not to discuss the privately -owned and
occupied homes. Therefore, he is reluctant to discuss Ms. Nyrop's home.
Ms. Bergdall stated that as a Task Force member, she has expressed the opinion that private
residences should remain in the park. However, on a personal note, the indecision has been
stressful. For instance, what will happen to the property value of their home if the City sells the
Layman and Anderson properties back to private ownership. Those properties have not been
well maintained while in City ownership. Regarding the occupied homes, she will defer to Mr.
Cline's position not to express an opinion.'
Mr. Yoder suggested that perhaps only a small section on the east side of the Nyrop property
would be needed for access to the park. He understands Mr. Cline's reluctance to discuss other
people's properties. However, when it is for a community purpose, it should be possible to both
solve the park's needs and benefit the Nyrop family.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Ms. Nyrop might not be averse to selling a section of the property.
Mr. Cline stated that it would be important that the City not consider selling land that it owns and
controls unless it would be to someone with a development purpose compatible with the City's
goals. The City could get an acceptable offer for the front section of the Halloran property
tomorrow, or perhaps not for five years.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the front section of the Halloran property has great potential for
development compatible with the park. He is less convinced about the areas next to the Bergdall
home.
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Mr. Yoder stated that it is desirable to have enough residents to make a strong neighborhood.
The intent would be to build a nice neighborhood to take care of the park. In turn, the park will
take care of the neighborhood, as the houses will maintain their value.
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force's purpose is not to plan the neighborhood, but the best
way to control the park expansion is to determine the viability of the neighborhood expansion. It
is necessary to look at the potential uses of abutting property. He stated that he also is
uncomfortable with #3 on Mr. Yoder's plan. He would like to bridge the Nyrop property. Is
there a way to go south to #10?
Ms. Bergdall stated that there is a covered, wooden bridge on Betty Young's property. Their
home looks out on the back of the Lehman property, where the creek makes a turn. There is also
a pond there. The covered, foot bridge is just west of the pond. There is a heavily wooded area,
which supports a large amount of wildlife. This wooded area runs across the back of their
property, the Anderson's, and across lot #8 on this plan, which is next to the Dantzer property.
Mr. Kranstuber asked Ms. Bergdall her opinion if the Layman and Nyrop properties became
parkland.
Ms. Bergdall responded that the biggest issue would be adequate identification of the separation
of public from private property.
Mr. Cline recommended preserving the vista wherever possible.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if there is any historical significance connected to the Nyrop house.
Mr. Cline responded that it is a "Frank Lloyd Wright" type of house. His view is that it fits with
the environment.
Mr. Kranstuber suggested that this property could potentially be used for the nature center, rather
than the Community Relations property.
Ms. Bergdall stated that, of the two, the Nyrop property has more potential. The Community
Relations' ground has no nature left; it is all asphalt.
Mr. Cline stated that the area next to Community Relations, on which the pile of dirt now sits,
could also be considered for empty- nester condos, or elderly housing, either owned and operated
by the City or developed by the private sector. That stretch of the bikepath could be problematic,
particularly if more of the homes are eliminated. It is heavily used from Conquistador to the Rec
Center.
Ms. Bergdall stated that there are no aesthetics to that field. It would be necessary for the City to
either do something aesthetically to the field or use it for a housing purpose.
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Mr. Yoder inquired if elderly housing would be accessed from the Community Relations parking
area. Would it require developing any new roads?
Mr. Cline stated that it would not. The City could relinquish the one that goes to Post Road.
Traffic studies indicate that use presents a very low impact on traffic. It would be a nice location
next to the Senior Center and Rec Center activities. He added that the Task Force is now doing
what has been suggested for years — looking at the entire area as one plan. They are looking at
cohesive park planning, traffic, design and building elements. There is now the potential for
doing something very special for Dublin.
Mr. Blosser inquired if the Task Force is comfortable with the concept from a financial, security
and development aspect.
Ms. Salay stated that when she initially proposed that the City consider selling back some of the
City -owned land for development, it was only to get the issue on the table. It was not because
she had any of this in mind. As a matter of fact, this plan proposes too much development; she is
particularly uncomfortable with #3. The Kimnan property is now for sale, and the City must
make a decision. If the City decides not to purchase the property, they will have to accept the
type of development that will occur on that site.
Ms. Salay noted that after reviewing this plan, she agrees that it would be nice to have access to
the park from the southeast corner of the study area. The City does own the Layman property,
but it is unwise to discuss the Nyrop property to any extent at this time. Eventually, she would
like to see the Community Relations building eliminated. It should not remain City offices long-
term. She does not believe, however, that the existing homes detract from the park environment;
they can stay or be eliminated in deference to other development. She commended Mr. Yoder on
his visioning and drawing skills, and for developing another idea for the Task Force's
consideration.
Ms. Bergdall stated that there has been discussion about eliminating the Layman and Anderson
houses, as they do not fit the park environment from an architectural standpoint. What if
something was developed in that area that matched the condominium project and their house? It
may not be as financially productive, but it could match the aesthetics of the park and add
residents to the area.
Mr. Yoder stated that there is an additional possibility for those two houses. Many times, it is
easier and less expensive to renovate the front fagade of a building than to tear it down. Perhaps
they could be sold to a prospective buyer who would agree to bring them up to the aesthetic
standards that would be set for Post Road.
Ms. Salay inquired if that would be accomplished with deed restrictions.
Mr. Yoder stated that it would.
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Ms. Neffenger stated that this whole discussion is a new concept to her. However, adding more
homes would add a warmer, more secure feel to the neighborhood. The plan presented tonight
is, at least, something to consider.
Mr. Blosser stated that for the next meeting, he would like everyone to study the plan and list the
positive and negative aspects of the plan. Members will compare notes and come to a consensus
without undue debate. Staff can then fine -tune the plan.
He invited public comment.
Charlie Kuntz, 5711 Tara Hill Drive stated that he lives adjacent to the Coffman Park area. He
has a background in planning and engineering. He stated that he thought he was attending a
meeting tonight for the discussion of the expansion of a park. The first part of the meeting, that
seemed to occur with a general consensus of Task Force members on preserving the greenspace
of the park. However, in the second half of the meeting, the Task Force members discussed and
indicated a general consensus on commercial development of the park area. It was proposed to:
bring in additional neighbors, although there are residents; divide the park area; add development
along the creek. This is all financially driven, of course. The purpose of the park has to be
reevaluated. In the first meeting, the Task Force suggested planting trees in the middle of a big
dirt pile to emphasize the natural environment. In the second meeting, they suggested building
elderly housing. Looking at the map, this plan basically severs the park. There is only a small
area in which it is possible to be in the park without also being in someone's back yard. He
supports planned use that is integrated, but this mix is nonsensical. This plan has people living
in the middle of the park at the expense of the park. This plan takes away from the park. If this
is not really to be a park, admit it. Call this the "Coffman Commercial Development Task
Force."
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Mr. Kuntz would have enjoyed the last Task Force meeting more, as
it, in its entirety, focused on park elements and ecology. The area discussed tonight has been
more problematic. The meeting tonight is primarily brainstorming. If the properties discussed
tonight were in the central area of the park, they would be acquired by the City for park use only.
That has been the City's usual practice. The issue discussed tonight is the area in front of the
creek — is it necessary for the park? Is it accessible and does it enhance the park? The
conclusion that has evolved is that probably some of it is not necessary. Not only does it not
help, it actually detracts from the park because it is not aesthetically pleasing.
Mr. Blosser stated that the "second meeting's" discussion Mr. Kuntz refers to is actually a
discussion of ways to preserve the "first meeting's" plans. As it exists today, the linear park on
the west end works well with the houses around it. The Task Force is looking at a way to
accommodate the existing homes with the existing park and perhaps enhance it. The
brainstonning ideas are convoluted. The goal is to make sure the greenspace is preserved as
quietly and passively as possible. However, what Mr. Grabill presented is reality. This Task
Force has no influence on it. He thanked Mr. Kuntz for his input and invited him to return.
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Ms. Salay agreed, inviting Mr. Kuntz to come back, as the north side of the park is not as well
represented as the other side.
Mr. Kuntz stated that it is important to remember that it isn't necessary for a park to have uses.
It can just be a park.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that most of the area on Mr. Yoder's map to the south of the creek has
always been residential. This plan does not change that, only alters it. The condominiums
would be closer to Post Road and farther from Tara Hill than the Halloran house, allowing more
greenspace.
Mr. Kuntz stated that they are so close to the creek that they are within the I0 -year flood plain.
That detracts from the park. The whole concept contradicts the purpose of a park.
Mr. Yoder stated that this plan was only to guide the discussion topic for tonight's meeting, to
assist the Task Force in making possible recommendations to the City. Some of the ideas
initially drawn in no one supports, such as a single- family development on the Halloran property.
The map also suggests single - family on the Kinman property, yet the City does not currently
own the property. That property is very expensive, so is there a way the owner could have the
latitude to develop his own property, or does the City need to take it?
Mr. Cline stated that the park currently functions very well next to the residences. It is not
necessary to own everything to preserve the park feel. The discussion about easements and
setbacks is to acquire some of that open feel.
Mr. Kuntz responded that at the beginning of the meeting, Mr. Cline suggested cleaning out a
fence row to open up the Halloran property. This plan looks at the Halloran property and
proposes ten houses for it.
Mr. Cline responded that this was the suggestion immediately vetoed by the group — the single -
family on the Halloran property, preferring to keep it open. The intent remains preserving the
linear connection of the park. Walking around the pond, there is currently an unhampered view
of the lights of Metatec. Having natural stone /stucco condominiums along Post Road that block
that view might improve the park vista. However, City Council may not agree with the
recommendations and prefer to finance the park otherwise.
Matt Holman, 6390 Tara Hill inquired about the Task Force's time frame for presenting a plan
to Council.
Mr. Blosser stated that there is a traffic study now scheduled for the Tara Hill area. That may
affect the Task Force's time frame.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the traffic study is not yet under contract. The cost estimate proposal
has been prepared; it is estimated the study will cost approximately $70,000. The study will be
done on a comprehensive basis, looking at several streets; it will take some time.
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Ms. Salay stated that this Task Force will make a recommendation to Council, but Council will
defer a decision until the Tara Hill study is complete.
Mr. Holman inquired if the traffic study results would be altered by the condominium
development described tonight.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the traffic analysis done for the Task Force projected build -out for all the
area.
Mr. Holman stated that the actual development is often different than the projected build -out. He
stated that he has attended most of the Task Force meetings, and he, along with other citizens,
has provided input. He feels that his input has fallen on deaf ears. He stated that the City's
website allows citizen input on this subject. He has been provided copies of those emails, and it
appears the Task Force is disregarding all public input. Most of the comments oppose the Task
Force's recommendations for Post Road. Tonight's plan invades the park with even more
buildings. But even though the citizens oppose the plan, the Task Force will incorporate all of it
into the recommendations it will send to Council. Why invite public input, if there is no
intention to regard it? Two of the Task Force members live on Post Road; they are thinking
primarily of themselves, not the rest of the citizens.
Mr. Blosser stated that at the last meeting, which Mr. Holman did not attend, this group tallied
the email responses by categories. The Task Force was trying to determine public opinion.
Mr. Kuntz inquired who in the community suggested this development idea.
Mr. Blosser stated that the email responses were primarily regarding the eastern/active end of the
park. The revisions to the design for the eastern end of the park will incorporate some of those
consensus items, and will be available at the January meeting. Tonight's discussion is for the
passive end of the park.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that because the Task Force does not agree with Mr. Holman's position, it
doesn't mean they are not listening. The opinion of the Tara Hill residents does not necessarily
outweigh the opinion of the other 30,000 residents who do want the realignment. However, it is
not appropriate to "count heads" to determine how to build a park or protect the environment.
The Task Force's job is to show the necessary leadership for sound planning, all the while being
sensitive to the residents. Dublin incorporates much more public process in its decisions than
most other communities. This is the third attempt to work on this park plan -- all were open
meetings, receiving public comments. The residents have been assured that the situation on
Tara Hill will be better when this is all completed than it is now.
Mr. Holman stated that he does not oppose the condominium development, but he doesn't like
#3 and #4 on the plan.
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Mr. Kranstuber stated that this was only a brainstorming session. That is part of the process -
they talk about everything in public, and often, when exposed to discussion, a suggestion is
quickly discarded.
Mr. Blosser stated that Mr. Iolman's comments are considered along with those of everyone
else. The Task Force members are volunteers, trying to make the best decisions for the
community. Mr. Holman's goal is similar, as evidenced by his presence.
Mr. Yoder stated that Mr. Holman's comment that the City is not listening is unfair criticism. As
a result of the Task Force and City Council's listening, a second traffic study at an additional
cost to the City of $70,000 will be performed in their neighborhood.
Ms. Salay thanked Mr. Holman's close attention to the process. A few points to remember: (1;
the Task Force stated in its first meeting that the "lynch pin" of the study would be that nothing
done in the park would have a negative impact on the Tara Hill neighborhood. The park would
be compatible on all levels. (2) The plan on the table tonight is completely conceptual.
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, January 13, 2003, at 7:00 p.m. in Council Chambers
and the subsequent meeting for Monday, January 27, 2003.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
Assistan lerk ouncil
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Monday, January 27, 2003, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
5200 Emerald Parkway
Meeting Agenda
Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of November 21, 2002 Meeting, and December 2,
2002 Meeting.
IV. Regular Meeting
A. Herb Jones, President, Dublin Historical Society — Thomas
Property.
B. Concept Plan(s) of the East Unified Campus Area of the Park
• Staff Update Based on Task Force Discussions
• Task Force Comments/Review of the East Side Concepts
• Public Participation Regarding the East Area of the Park
• Task Force Discussion and Vote to Suspend Meetings until
after the City Council Traffic Study Has Been Completed and
Presented to Council/Task Force for Consideration
• Task Force Purpose Statement Memo to Council
V. Next Meeting date: May 2003
VI. Adjourn
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASI{ FORCE
January 27, 2003
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Staff:
Keith Blosser, Chair
Jane Brautigam
Chuck Kranstuber
Frank Ciarochi
Amy Salay
Bobbie Clarke
Valerie Bergdall
Gary Gundennan
Bill Yoder
Carson Combs
Kay Neffenger
Paul Hammersmith
Roger Eastep
Fred Halve
Others:
Barb Cox
Herb Jones, Marian Thomas
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order.
Approval of Minutes
Ms. Salay moved to approve the November 21, 2002 Task Force minutes.
Ms. Ncffenger seconded the motion.
Vote: Yes — 7; No — 0.
Ms. Salay moved to approve the December 2, 2002 Task Force minutes.
Ms. Bergdall seconded the motion.
Vote: Yes -- 6; No — 0. Mr. Eastep abstained.
Mr. Blosser stated that the park discussion has alternated between the two sides of the Coffman
Park: the eastern, active side and the western, passive side. Staff was requested to revise the
concept plan for the park incorporating the consensus items from the two past meetings. Mr.
Combs will review those revisions following a presentation from Mr. Herb Jones, Dublin
Historical Society.
Citizen Comment
Mr. Herb Jones 19 S Riverview Street noted that he is president of the Dublin Historical
Society. He spoke on behalf of the Society and his family, who have a personal interest in one
issue the City is considering — the potential acquisition and disposition of the Brown/Thomas
property. He explained the history of the property:
IIe noted that the Brown1rhomas family has owned the property since post -
Revolutionary War days, and his wife is a descendent of the original owner of the
property, Basil Brown. Mr. Brown's wife was a descendent of Anne Simpson and John
Davis of Bucks County, Pennsylvania. During the Revolutionary War, Anne Simpson
served as one of two female spies for General George Washington. Although just 16
years old, Anne Simpson carried messages between Valley Forge and Philadelphia. John
Davis was an ensign in the Continental Army, posted at Valley Forge. As an ensign, he
carried the colors during battle. According to family history, John Davis is the soldier
holding the flag in the famous painting of George Washington crossing the Delaware.
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Following the war, Anne and John were married, and in 1817 moved to what is Delaware
County, Ohio. In 1820, they built a large house on the east side of the Scioto River, in
Perry Township. They are buried in Davis Cemetery on Riverside Drive,
Basil Brown married Nancy Ann Davis, the daughter of John and Ann Davis. Basil
Brown owned 100+ acres on Post Road. Basil Brown's son, James Simpson Brown, and
his wife lived in a log cabin on the site, and eventually he and his son, James Davis
Brown, built the present frame house and barn. Through James Simpson Brown's
daughter, Sarah Brown Thomas, the property eventually moved to the Thomas family.
James Davis Brown was Mrs. Herb Jones' grandfather.
Mr. Jones stated that due to the Brown/Thomas family's history within Dublin, his wife and the
Historical Society request that the frame house be preserved, if possible. However, if evaluation
of the structure determines that the integrity of the house is seriously compromised and it is not
worthy of restoration or moving, the family will not object to its elimination. He noted that
several weeks ago, the Historical Society forwarded a letter to the Task Force requesting
preservation of the house, if possible.
Mr. Kranstuber requested clarification of the location of the Thomas house.
Mr. Jones stated that the large, white farmhouse, barn and adjacent outbuildings — five structures,
are all located on Post Road in the park expansion area.
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force is aware of the Brown/Thomas heritage within the City
and has discussed preservation of the buildings. A consensus had been reached to preserve the
post and peg bam, which is in excellent condition. The fate of the other buildings is uncertain.
Mr. Hahn stated that the intent was to preserve the bam, which could include relocating it
elsewhere on the site, perhaps next to the proposed pond, with a functional use.
Mr. Blosser noted that Mr. Eastep had also suggested locating it within the wildflower meadow,
with no vehicle access. In this protected environment, it could provide an educational /historical
focus for the community.
Ms. Salay inquired about the condition of the house.
Mrs. Marian Thomas stated that she believes the house has not deteriorated significantly,
although it has not been updated in the past 40 years. The problem is the serious water damage
that has occurred to the foundation.
Mr. Yoder stated that because the park expansion would necessitate the house being removed
from its present location, perhaps it could be relocated to a new foundation elsewhere on the site.
On behalf of the Dublin Historical Society, Mr. Jones thanked the Task Force for the opportunity
to share the history and present their request.
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Carson Combs Senior Planner stated that the Task Force had requested that staff incorporate as
many of the consensus program elements as comfortably possible into a revision of the park
expansion plan. He presented a new drawing, which includes those items. He noted that the
revision does not preserve any buildings on the site immediately next to the new City Hall.
However, the Brown/Thomas barn is relocated next to the pond to serve as a boathouse. The
Recreation Department could use it for storage of paddle boats or small sailboats and for
classrooms or shelter. The Task Force had also suggested placing the barn in the middle of the
open space or the wildflower meadow. After reviewing the site, it became apparent that the barn
would break up the open space, long view of the park. It would also detract from the Watch
House, for which the intent was to retain its public art focus within the backdrop of wildflower
meadows. Another option is to move the barn further down Post Road to emphasize a rural,
agricultural theme along the road. Although the intent is to have a rolling pasture next to City
Hall, it would be possible to include a historical marker indicating the significance of the history
of the property, perhaps outlining the original foundations of the farmhouse or log cabin.
On the outer edge of the site is the Justice Center. Based on the Task Force's consensus to
expand recreational uses, the plan moves the basketball courts from their present location to an
outdoor sports complex near the Justice Center. Sand volleyball courts would also be included.
The surrounding uses at that location are office, so this would provide the ability to have lit
courts. Lit facilities permit use for longer hours, and a location next to the police station is
desirable. Additional parking lot expansion would be possible in this area, if needed. This
revision provides a better pedestrian linkage through bikepaths /walking trails from the Justice
Center to the rest of the park space. Currently, the Justice Center is disconnected from the
municipal site.
The plan continues the original concept to have a large pond — six to seven acres, that is
separated by a decorative wall treatment, rather than an actual bridge. This would provide an
impressive view from Emerald Parkway. Again, the barn could be located here as a boathouse.
A long view of the new City Hall site, with its various entrances, would be seen from the
terminus of Post Road and Emerald Parkway and also further along Emerald Parkway. A
pedestrian connection would run through the parking lot to City Hall from this major
intersection. Off the parking lot, there is a suggested waterplay area for children and a special
needs playground. The concept is to incorporate sprinklers and bubbles and jets within forms of
aquatic animals — frogs and fish.
The roadway network remains essentially as in the previous plan. Minor changes give a more
direct connection to City Hall from the Rec Center, including curves to minimize speed. This
would be a "front door" to the various park spaces. In the present basketball court area, one
court would be replaced with a tennis court, the other would be made into a practice court
including a practice wall. There would be a pedestrian bridge across the run ending in a picnic
ground, which could be used by employees for lunch. Also proposed is a senior plaza area,
including outdoor seating and an outdoor shuffleboard court.
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One question is how to utilize the old City Hall building. This plan suggests that the facility be
made available to civic and athletic groups, such as the Dublin Historical Society or soccer
leagues.
The Task Force had suggested the possibility of acquiring the Nyrop property and locating a
Nature Center on that site. After evaluation of the topography and the surrounding program
elements, that location does appear to be the most desirable site for a Nature Center. It is
unique, has various outdoor assets, and is in close proximity to the Rec Center. The existing
building could be used, along with the adjacent outbuildings. However, to provide outdoor
classes that would use the Indian Run stream corridor, an unpaved path system of mulch material
would be necessary. Staff did not undertake a more comprehensive review of the site, however,
as the City's position regarding land acquisition is unclear.
The plan does not propose a use for the present Community Relations building. It does attempt
to provide pedestrian linkages, which do not require the user to "double back" on the same path.
Mr. Blosser complimented staff on how well the program elements were incorporated into the
plan.
Mr. Combs provided initial cost estimates on the proposed program elements, including the City
Hall building. The cost estimate does not cover all the road system upgrades that would be
required. He noted that an estimate is given on a 65,000 square foot City Hall building, although
earlier plans used a 80,000 square foot building. That is a number that could significantly
change based upon actual need.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that staff has developed a plan according to the Task Force's direction.
However, there are some elements, such as additional land acquisition, that could impact the plan
and the cost estimate. In addition, the Task Force has discussed phasing the project, which
would mean grouping the elements and the cost within the phases.
Council Round Table
Mr. Kranstuber stated that this plan reflects: (1) the assumption that the Task Force will
recommend acquisition of the Thomas property, and (2) the program elements that have
developed into consensus items after extensive "brainstorming." He noted that after the land
acquisition, the creek would be the center of the park rather than the western edge.
Ms. Salav complimented Mr. Combs on an excellent incorporation of the program elements into
the park plan. She is particularly impressed with the ingenious idea of placing the lit courts next
to the Justice Center.
Mr. Blosser inquired if a water feature placed in front of City Hall in the previous plan had been
eliminated.
Mr. Combs confirmed that it was eliminated due to the number of other water amenities within
the plan and the attempt to define a footprint for City Hall which orients well with the proximity
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of the creek and the overall plan. This plan provides the water focal feature at the terminus of
Post Road and Emerald Parkway.
Mr. Blosser stated that he likes the fact that the plan is not overloaded with activity. Also, it
appears to have the potential of moving large events such as the Irish Festival further south and
away from the residential area of Tara Hill. He inquired about the proposed bike tunnel.
Mr. Combs stated that it provides a pedestrian linkage from the Justice Center to the City — safe
passage from one side of Perimeter Drive to the other without the hazards of surface crossing.
Mr. Eastep stated that he is impressed with the proposal to use the Thomas barn as a boathouse
next to the pond. He encouraged that the barn be included in the Parks and Recreation
programming. Although the City has many water features, due to liability issues, the citizenry
can use none of them. A pond designed to be used by the community is an excellent idea. He
inquired if the waterplay area could be incorporated with the pond, or if that would be a problem,
due to different kinds of water.
Mr. Carson confirmed that they must be two separate systems.
Mr. Eastep noted that the provision for the passive and active sides to share parking is smart. He
proposed that the City's Community Relations division be vacated from its present building, as
has been discussed and moved into the old City Hall building as its primary tenant. During
evening hours and weekends, space could be subleased to civic groups, athletic groups, and boy
scout /girl scout troops. Some type of nature center could be located on the present Community
Relations site.
Ms. Neffenger expressed satisfaction with the plan. She is supportive of the use of the Thomas
barn in this manner.
Ms. Bergdall suggested that there be a safety barrier preventing small children from accessing
the pond from the waterplay area.
Mr. Combs responding that staff proposes a stone wall be incorporated to separate the waterplay
area from both the pond and from the rubberized surface of the adjacent playground.
Ms. Bergdall stated that it would be preferable to eliminate the Community Relations building
and leave the area as open space, with no active use of the area. It was the consensus of the Task
Force to make that recommendation to Council.
Mr. Yoder stated that he particularly likes the placement of City Hall and the resulting vista from
both approaches to the building. Also, the road system appears to work well with this plan. Post
Road is not terminated, but the traffic is smoothly transitioned to Emerald Parkway. This plan
proposed a 62,000 square foot City Hall, which would indicate a parking need of approximately
250 spaces. Is that amount of parking included in this plan?
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Mr. Carson responded that this building footprint is for 80,000 square feet. All the parking
spaces are not indicated in the drawing.
Mr. Yoder emphasized a need to plan for sufficient parking. If a problem with overcrowding the
park in that area seems evident, perhaps some of the City departments could remain in the older
building. If the size of the new building is reduced, then less parking would be necessary near
the building.
Public Comment
Jenson Wong, 5822 Tara Hill Drive inquired if the park would support outdoor, teen activities.
His son has taken up the hobby of flying remote control model planes. Would there be space for
that activity?
Mr. Blosser responded that the skatepark is a park element very popular with the teen population.
There will also be basketball, tennis, and sand volleyball courts.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired where remote control planes are currently being flown, and does the
City have any restrictions on their use?
Ms. Bergdall stated that the field behind their home is used by youth in the community for this
purpose.
Ms. Salay stated that the planes are also flown at Avery Park. Her children have model rockets
that they take to the park to shoot.
Mr. Hahn stated that it is necessary to obtain a permit to shoot model rockets, but there are no
restrictions regarding operation of remote control planes.
Mr. Wong inquired about a recent report in the local papers regarding potential disposition of
City -owned parkland on Post Road for condominium development.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that in the past few meetings, the Task Force has held "brain
storming" sessions regarding many aspects of the Coffman Park area. This is common in the
early stages of project development. The potential for selling off some of the land in the
western, or passive, side of the park for condominium development was posed to the Task Force
and briefly discussed, along with several other ideas. It never moved beyond initial discussion.
Tonight's discussion, however, is focusing on the eastern, active side of the park where
discussion has moved to a consensus stage. The only issue remaining with the current concept
plan for this side of the park is determination of the impact on Tara Hill with the realignment of
Post Road through the park.
Mr. Wong inquired about how to have input in the City's park planning process
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Mr. Blosser encouraged Mr. Wong to continue to attend meetings, both of the Task Force and
the Parks and Recreation Commission. In addition, involvement with his civic association would
be productive, as that body works with Council on pertinent community issues.
Jason Straka, 6940 Raymond Drive stated that he is a landscape architect, and he is very
impressed with the plan for the east side of the park. He encouraged the Task Force to set a goal
to develop the west side of the park in a similar manner. He noted that there are other maps on
view in addition to the new version of the eastern park expansion. In light of his familiarity with
this neighborhood, he cautioned that some uses on the proposed land use map would
significantly impact his neighbors.
Ms. Salay stated that the draft land use map was discussed in a brainstorming session, but the
Task Force has not pursued the proposed development further.
Mr. Blosser stated that he is very sensitive about open government. He is a lawyer and is
cautious that deals not be cut behind doors. He prefers that all possibilities be discussed in open
session. This is a marketplace of ideas, and the Task Force will not shy away from ideas. They
are presented for discussion, even though some are "dead on arrival." The discussion of some
ideas that will never be pursued may occasionally evoke responses from the public. Yet, this
process protects the public.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the issue predates this discussion 10 to 12 years, although the
discussion has become more substantial in the last two years as the land was being acquired.
About a year ago, some Post Road residents expressed opposition. Because land acquisition
decisions are made in executive session, the residents did not have the opportunity to offer input.
Consequently, a task force was formed of both citizens and council members to attempt to define
and mesh goals of the two in a manner sensitive to the residents. The most controversial map is
a compendium of possibilities, one or all of which may be rejected. One of those ideas,
however, was briefly suggested tonight — that the current Community Relations building at 5620
Post Road be eliminated. It is inconsistent with the passive nature of that area, and would serve
the park purpose better as green space.
Mr. Straka inquired as to the intent of the Task Force regarding this particular issue. If the
eastern side of the park is resolved tonight, will the next meeting focus on the land usage in the
western section?
Mr. Blosser stated that a second traffic study of the Tara Hill area is anticipated shortly. Until
the results of that study have been received and those numbers reconciled with the current traffic
study, this group is unable to move forward. It is projected that the Tara Hill traffic study will
not be completed for approximately three months.
Mr. Yoder stated that the draft land use map discussed at the last meeting was his creation,
however, it was for discussion purposes only. Somehow, it was construed as a proposal.
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Mr. Eastep stated that he served on the Planning and Zoning Commission for several years,
during which Coffman Park was discussed many times. At no time during the discussions
regarding the design of this park was it suggested that some of the land should be sold off and
residential development placed on it. That is the reason he was compelled to write the letter to
the local newspaper. The City is designing a park, not a residential development as the
discussion at the last meeting would indicate.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that several ideas that were introduced were quickly discarded, such as a
senior center behind the Recreation Center. That is the type of brainstorming that occurred.
Ms. Salay noted that one positive effect has occurred since that session — more public response
and attendance at tonight's meeting.
Peter Berryman, 6982 Raymond Drive stated that at an earlier Task Force meeting he submitted
the results of a survey he had conducted on traffic patterns with Tara Hill and Post Road. That
survey indicted that one -third of the westbound traffic originating from the Emerald Parkway
intersection turned northbound on Avery Road during evening hours. Although Mr. Clear's
numbers coincided with his on that issue, they did not match in relation to traffic volume.
Therefore, he proceeded to take an actual count. On a day chosen at random, he counted 842
vehicles turning westbound onto Post Road from 3:00 p.m. — 6:00 p.m. It is difficult to turn from
the Rec Center onto Post Road during those hours. If 35 percent of the 842 vehicles turn north
on Avery Road, that number of vehicles is 295. Mr. Clear's figures indicate that if Post Road
were to be realigned, approximately one -third of those vehicles would be candidates for Tara
Hill Road. However, Mr. Clear's number of northbound vehicles was 75, and one -third of that
would only be 25. Mr. Berryman's numbers are four times higher, which would indicate a much
greater impact on Tara Hill Road.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she lives on that section of Post Road and has noticed that
approximately one -third of the vehicles turn into the Rec Center and another third turn into the
Justice Center.
Mr. Berryman stated page three of his study focuses on drive time. He actually followed 100
cars from beginning to end of the section. In the first study, the Rec Center vehicles were 17 %;
in the second study, they were 23.6% of the total. He did not have a separate category for the
Justice Center destination. Those vehicles were included with the Post Road businesses.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Council relies upon the advice of professionals in many categories in
making decisions. The same is true in this case, as they have proceeded according to the traffic
study results. However, in this case, Council has opted to seek a second opinion at an additional
cost of $70,000. If the second opinion should differ, Council will act accordingly.
Mr. Blosser thanked Mr. Berryman for his investigation and input into the traffic study. This
information will be forwarded to the Engineering division.
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Ms. Neffenger stated that it is important to make Perimeter Drive as attractive as possible to
through traffic.
Ms. Salay agreed, particularly since Perimeter was designed to become the major east -west
connector.
Mr. Berryman stated that this should not be a Tara Hill versus Post Road issue. Both Tara Hill
and Post Road need some relief from traffic.
Patrick Enright, 5308 Tara Hill noted that he is an employee of the State Parks and Recreation
Department, and he previously served on Council's Natural Resources Advisory Commission.
He is concerned with the fact that he is hearing dialogue about traffic patterns and expansion of
active recreation use, but he has not heard discussion about the need to abide by the Community
Plan. He was involved in the original planning phase of the Community Plan regarding
preservation of natural areas, and one of the goals clearly stated is the intent to preserve the
natural waterways in the community. He advised the Task Force to review the Community Plan
and look at doing everything possible to protect the Indian Run. When the creek dries up as
siltation fills in and grass begins to grow, there will no longer be an opportunity to protect that
waterway.
He agreed that Tara Hill's traffic is an enormous problem; he can attest to that. However, that is
a separate issue from the concept of protecting greenspace and developing parkland. There are
many factors that contribute to the traffic problem on Tara Hill, not the single consideration of
re- routing Post Road. He suggested that the Tara Hill traffic issue be considered by another
group. A new traffic study would provide beneficial information, and there are applications to
be derived from it; however, this group should focus entirely on the development of the
parkland.
Ms. Salay clarified that the Task Force was focusing entirely on the parkland. However, when
the interest developed in re- directing Post Road for the benefit of the park, the Task Force
commissioned the first traffic study. It was initially thought that Tara Hill and Post Road were
more interconnected than the results of the study indicated. The findings of that study were that
if other improvements were done in the area, re- directing Post Road wouldn't affect Tara Hill
significantly. However, the Tara Hill residents became concerned. They petitioned Council to
conduct a traffic study of their area for potential traffic calming measures. The Task Force has
decided to suspend their final recommendations until the results of the second study are received.
Mr. Enright agreed that at this point it makes sense to take advantage of the additional
information. However, there are other factors that have affected Tara Hill traffic long before this
issue arose — parallel roadways with speed reduction that have re- routed traffic to Tara Hill, Irish
Festival directional signs that point traffic through Tara Hill to I -270, rather than away from Tara
Hill. In addition, a great deal of City resources — money, time and effort, were expended on the
Community Plan. He asked that the Task Force acknowledge that earlier investment and remain
true to that document as they develop the park.
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Mr. Blosser asked Mr. Enright to give an overview of the City's watershed.
Mr. Enright stated that during his service on NRAC, there was a study conducted on this area.
Representatives from ODNR looked at the situation. They explained that as a city continues to
build structures or roadways, the natural filtration of water by natural areas is lost -- when fields
are replaced with foundations and driveways, the water is no longer cleansed through filtration.
Siltation fills in the creek area, and aquatic life is diminished. Eventually, grass will begin to
grow in the creek beds in the summer, and the water bed will then turn dry. The creek is a
critical feature that the City cannot afford to lose. There are not many other streams remaining
such as Indian Run, with both north and south forks.
Ms. Bergdall stated that they have observed the Indian Run creek running very high. It does not
appear to be drying up at all. As a matter of fact, the banks flood on a regular basis.
Mr. Enright stated that he has observed many negative changes in Indian Run. It is unfortunate,
as it is one of the most beneficial and attractive features of the City of Dublin.
Mr. Blosser stated that this is a significant part of the ecosystem of the City. The City may want
to look specifically at ways to preserve this system.
Ms. Salay inquired if the Red Trabue wetlands were intended to alleviate some of the water run-
off.
Mr. Eastep stated all of the ponds outflow to the creek.
Staff Comments
Mr. Blosser inquired when the Tara Hill traffic study completion is expected.
Mr. Hammersmith estimated three— four months (end of May /first of June).
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force is near completion of a concept plan. The only hesitation
in completing it now is the desire to look at all information regarding traffic before forwarding a
recommendation to Council.
Mr. Hammersmith stated that Zande's study would not evaluate Mr. Clear's prior study nor look
at the possible impacts of re- directing Post Road. The Tara Hill study will evaluate traffic
calming concerns for the Tara Hill area. Staff will, however, conduct a review of Mr. Clear's
study.
Ms. Salay inquired if it would be possible for Zande to review a potential redirection of Post
Road from the basis of impact on Tara Hill.
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Mr. Hammersmith responded that Zande would make that determination only from the aspect of
evaluating future traffic volume on Tara Hill as a result of that action on Post Road. He noted
that he will share Mr. Berryman's study with both Mr. Clear and Zande.
Mr. Eastep encouraged forwarding the Task Force's recommendations to Council at this time.
Ms. Salay inquired if it is Mr. Hammersmith's opinion that it would be advisable for the Task
Force to wait to make a recommendation until the second traffic study is completed.
Mr. Hammersmith affirmed that is his opinion.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Council has assured Tara Hill residents that it will take no action on a
recommendation from the Task Force until the traffic study is completed, therefore, it would not
profit the Task Force to forward a recommendation to them at this time.
Following discussion, Task Force consensus was to defer completion of a final recommendation
until results of the study have been received.
Ms. Salay inquired if Zande would study possible ways in which to increase the appeal of
Perimeter Drive as the east -west connector.
Mr. Hammersmith responded that issue was part of Mr. Clear's study. It is not a consideration in
Zande's study.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that as Zande's study progresses, if pertinent, relevant information or
conclusions are available, they will be forwarded to the Task Force to allow them an opportunity
to schedule a discussion of those issues while waiting for a final report.
Ms. Bergdall suggested that the Task Force resume a month before the traffic study is due to
finish discussion of the west side of the park.
Mr. Yoder stated that it would be necessary to have conclusive information from the report
before further development of a concept for the west side.
Mr. Kranstuber stated it could be as late as August or September before the final details are sifted
through in various reviews.
Mr. Blosser stated that he would like to have the report immediately after it is presented to
Council.
Mr. Yoder stated that the Task Force does not have to wait until traffic- calming measures are
finalized before resuming discussion. The Task Force would only need verification that re-
direction of Post Road would not significantly impact the Tara Hill traffic situation.
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Mr. Kranstuber moved that, after consultation with staff, the Chair of the Task Force will have
the discretion to schedule the next meeting in May.
Mr. Yoder seconded the motion.
The motion carried.
Purpose Statement
Mr. Blosser stated that in anticipation that the Task Force would recess for a few weeks, he
thought it would be helpful to clarify a broad definition of the park expansion discussion. If the
Task Force agrees with this statement, he suggests that it be forwarded to Council.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she agrees with the statement with the elimination of the location and
the addition of an introduction.
Ms. Salay stated that she agrees with the statement with the addition of a statement of intent to
preserve the creek.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he also agrees with the statement with the addition of an introduction
and the elimination of the titles.
Mr. Yoder, Mr. Eastep and Ms. Neffenger approved the statement.
Mr. Blosser noted that he will make the revisions and forward to the Task Force members for
review /approval before forwarding to Council.
Mr. Blosser noted that Mr. Cline is absent this evening because he has been mobilized to active
duty with the armed forces. The Task Force wishes him and his family well.
Ms. Salay noted that Mr. Blosser, likewise, has been mobilized and will be "shipping out' next
week. The Task Force offers support to him and his family in any manner possible.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
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Assista Clerk of Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Wednesday, August 27, 2003
7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
Meeting Agenda
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
M. Approval of January 27, 2003 Minutes
IV. Staff Comments (preliminary)
V. Regular Meeting
• Update on Recent Developments ....... ........................Council Representative
• .Review of Task Force Coffman Park Campus Plan, Phase I .....................Staff
• Presentation of Tara Hill Traffic Study Results and Impact to Task Force Coffman
Park Campus Plan .................. ...........................R.D. Zande & Associates
VI. Public Comments
VII. Potential Vote on Coffman Park Campus Plan, Phase 1 Recommendation (if appropriate.)
VIII. Next Meeting Date
IX. Adjourn
MINUTES OF TIIE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
August 27, 2003
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present
Keith Blosser, Chair
Chuck Kranstuber
Amy Salay
Valerie Bergdall
Bill Yoder
Roger Eastep (excused)
Staff:
Frank Ciarochi
Bobbie Clarke
Fred Hahn
Carson Combs
Barb Cox
Jeannie Willis
Kay Neffenger (excused)
Others
Brian Haggerty, R.D. Zande & Assoc.
Dave Samuelson, R.D. Zande & Assoc.
Tina Wawszkiewicz, R.D. Zande & Assoc.
Doyle Clear, Parsons Transportation Group
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order. He noted that the Task Force is reconvening after a
seven -month sabbatical.
Approval of Minutes
Ms. Salay moved to approve the January 27, 2003 Task Force minutes.
Mr. Kranstuber seconded the motion.
Vote Yes — 5; No — 0.
Staff Comments
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the staff will present: (1) the latest version for the eastern campus of the
park, and (2) the report on stage one of the Tara Hill Traffic Calming Study.
Council Update
Ms. Salay reported that since the last meeting of the Task Force, the Nyrop property, which is
located within the park area, became available. Council made the decision to purchase the
property, and that area can now be programmed in the east campus of the park. Previously, it
was suggested that the property would be suited to a nature center. The house is in excellent
condition and should integrate well into that plan.
Staff Presentation — Coffman Park, Eastern Campus
Carson Combs, Senior Planner, stated that with the latest revision to the park concept plan, the
focus was to tie all the open space areas together and integrate the existing park with potential
future uses. He noted that the park is bordered by Emerald Parkway, Avery - Muirfield Drive,
Perimeter Drive, a residential subdivision to the north, and bisected by Post Road, which is
proposed to be realigned.
The following components are recommended for the east campus:
(1) The current City Hall would provide office space for non -profit and civic organizations.
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(2) Expansion of the tennis courts.
(3) Relocation of various sports activities to an area adjacent to the Justice Center, to facilitate
both supervision and outdoor lighting.
(4) The new City Hall, sited in the terminus off Post Road and Coffman Road, would be the
primary structure in the park.
(5) Various pedestrian paths would provide access from different sections of the park to City
Hall.
(6) Post Road would be reconfigured to Commerce Parkway, linking to Perimeter Drive.
(7) Visual amenities: a long visual view of the park from the Emerald Parkway bridge crossing
SR 161 /US 33.
(8) The Thomas barn would be preserved, providing a visual link to Dublin's past rural
character; it would be used as the boathouse.
(9) Create a bridge or stone wall feature to cross the pond, separating it into different uses — a
fishing pond on one end, a sail pond with boathouse on the other end. This would include a
small water play area for children and an adjacent special needs playground.
(10) A senior plaza next to the Recreation Center would expand senior activities outdoors and
blend into a series of open spaces, including a wildflower meadow.
(11) The Nyrop house would be used as a nature center. Sited next to the Recreation Center, this
property would provide service road access from the Post Road realignment. Additional parking
for buses could be provided by the Recreation Center.
(12) Moving west, the park would provide primarily visual and passive amenities, which will be
identified more specifically in the Task Force's future discussion.
Mr. Cline inquired what the total acreage for the eastern campus of the park would be.
Staff agreed to provide an estimate of acreage at the September 15th meeting.
Mr. Hahn estimated that the total park area would be approximately 70 acres.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that Post Road would continue to be a through road. It will, however, run
along the perimeter of the park. The realignment provides the opportunity for substantial
naturalized areas and greenspace to exist within the park.
Mr. Blosser stated that at the January meeting, the Task Force discussed the Nyrop property and
reached consensus that a nature center be located on that site. Has staff developed that idea?
Mr. Combs stated that at that time, Council had not decided to purchase the property. However,
now that the property has been acquired, staff would develop that idea.
Ms. Salay stated that she would like to see how the parking would work with the Recreation
Center.
Ms. Bergdall inquired about the status of the outbuildings on the site, including the stables.
Mr. Hahn stated that maintenance of the outbuildings is currently provided, and the buildings are
used minimally for storage. The buildings, including the stables, are in good shape and could be
programmed to complement the nature center. The stables would accommodate approximately
10 horses.
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Ms. Bergdall stated the petting zoo discussed earlier could be located on this site.
Ms. Salay inquired about the possible partnership with the Ohio Wildlife Center. Perhaps they
would be interested in providing an educational site here.
Ms. Bergdall stated that there had also been discussion regarding pony rides, perhaps providing
them on Saturdays throughout the summer. 'Perhaps a private group could operate there during
the summer.
Mr. Blosser stated that he favored such a summer program -- it would tie in well with the nature
center.
Mr. Cline stated that, originally, a working farm was proposed. The idea has transitioned to a
summer program — a petting zoo. A summer program would allow young animals to be provided
for the children — calves and not steer.
Mr. Cline stated that there was also earlier discussion on the need for access /nature trails,
perhaps using mulch, to complement the nature center. He suggested that the adjacent
landowners may be willing to co -op with the City on maintaining the trails across their
properties.
Ms. Salay stated it would be important to place mulch trails out of the floodway.
Tara Hill Traffic Study
Jeannie Willis, City Civil Engineer, stated that last October, Tara Hill residents petitioned City
Council to initiate a traffic- calming process on Tara Hill Drive. According to the City's traffic-
calming policy, the City requested RFP's from engineering firms for a study of the area. The
contract was awarded to Zande & Associates, and the study was initiated. Stage 1 has been
completed, which included data gathering and a recommendation for Stage 2 of the study. The
traffic consultant will present a report on Stage 1 tonight. This is the presentation given on May
7th to the stakeholders of the Tara Hill traffic - calming project. The City has also received a first
draft of the Stage 2 findings, and that draft is being reviewed by City staff. A public meeting
will be soon be scheduled with the residents of that neighborhood. At the second Tara Hill
meeting, an opinion survey was offered regarding different traffic- calming options; a 50%
response rate was received. The results of the survey were mailed to the residents. The next
public meeting with the neighborhood residents will offer the residents three traffic - calming
options for Tara Hill Drive.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that there will be a full presentation on the Tara Hill Traffic Calming
Study to Council, at which time Council will respond with an appropriate action. The purpose of
the presentation tonight is to give the Task Force an indication of how Tara Hill would be
affected by the reorientation of Post Road, the opening of the new high school, and traffic -
calming measures.
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Dave Samuelson, R.D. Zande & Associates presented a brief PowerPoint presentation on Stage
1 of the Tara Hill Traffic Calming Study. The study attempts to determine appropriate measures,
if any, to best manage and /or calm current and anticipated traffic along Tara Hill Drive. The
study was separated into two stages. Stage 1 covered Tara Hill between Muirfield Drive and
Coffman Road. Stage 2 covers an area bordered by Brand Road, Muirfield Drive, Coffinan Road
and Post Road. The affected number of homes in Stage 1 is 22 homes. The conclusions of the
study are as follows:
Volumes
• The average daily volume is 4,100 vehicles, more than double the 2,000 - vehicle
threshold for this type of collector street. Peak hour volumes range from 300 to 700 per
hour.
• It is unlikely volumes will be reduced below 2,000 even with traffic calming, due to the
number of residences using Tara Hill Drive.
Sneed
• The highest computed 85th percentile speed was 35 mph.
• Speeds during off -peak hours are generally higher than in peak hours.
Accident History
• 0.36 severity ratio for the study area compared to 0.21 City -wide.
• The type of accidents and their severity is indicative of speeding.
• Driver education should be enhanced for local student drivers, due to the high percentage
of accidents involving 16 -20 year olds.
• Lower off -peak volumes (with reduced delays) appear to induce motorists to travel at
higher speeds (which could affect the severity ratio).
Cut - Through Traffc
• Through traffic represents 14 -22% of total volumes during three identified peak hours (7-
8 am, 2:20 -3:20 pm, and 5 -6 pm) The morning and afternoon traffic are assumed to
consist of school - related traffic. The late PM hour is assumed to be solely commuter
traffic.
• Through volumes will likely be reduced by 75% in the AM and PM school peak hours
with the opening of Dublin Jerome High School.
• The expected amount of cut - through traffic, considering the effects of Jerome High
School and a Post Road realignment, is 21.5% of the peak hour volume.
Other Concerns
• Students may be using other local streets (e.g. Roscommon Road) to travel between
Muirfield Drive and Coffman Road. The opening of Jerome High School may reduce
that traffic and further reduce the volume on Tara Hill Drive.
• Collection of through volumes on these other streets will be expected to further validate
the need for traffic calming on Tara Hill Drive.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that if all the cut - through traffic were to be removed, the traffic volume on
Tara Hill would still be above 2,000 vehicles. The peak hour traffic of 4,600 would still be 4,000
vehicles.
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Mr. Cline stated that an earlier statement was made that the homes in the immediate
neighborhood would generate 2,100 vehicles per day. Where is the remaining number coming
from?
Mr. Samuelson responded that the remaining vehicles are traveling to /from Roscommon,
Adventure Drive or Sells Mills. The affected area is only those vehicles that must use Tara Hill
Drive to get in or out of the study area.
Ms. Salay inquired the number of homes in the expanded area.
Mr. Samuelson estimated that the area contains approximately 2,200 homes.
Ms. Salay stated that with the estimate of 10 trips /day per household, it is easy to understand the
volume.
Mr. Cline inquired if Tara Hill is carrying more than its share of traffic for that neighborhood.
Mr. Samuelson responded that it is carrying more than its share. However, it is the only street
with two signalized intersections, so it offers a more convenient access to the street.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there was past discussion that with the realignment of Post Road, the
function of the intersection at Emerald and Coffman roads would improve.
Mr. Samuelson agreed that when the fourth leg of an intersection is removed, the T- intersection
functions better. This could also have a positive effect on Tara Hill traffic.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the 75% cut - through school traffic could include Hemingway traffic
Mr. Samuelson stated that they looked at the existing area serving the school; 25% of that area
will continue to travel to Coffman High School.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it would be an easier transition to travel Coffman Road to Brand Road
to Muirfield Drive than to travel from Coffman Road to Tara Hill to Muirfield Drive.
Mr. Samuelson stated that Stage 2 of the study analyzes the traffic flow from Coffman to Brand.
A congestion problem is occurring there, also, although it doesn't warrant a signal.
Mr. Cline inquired if the consultants analyzed the potential effect of two other earlier
recommendations: (2) two left turns southbound from Avery- Muirfield onto Perimeter, and (2)
two left turns southbound on Coffinan Road onto Post Road. Would those possibilities improve
the function of Tara Hill?
Mr. Samuelson responded that assessment was not made.
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Mr. Blosser stated that if traffic - calming measures are instituted on Tara Hill, the traffic volume
and traffic speeds should decrease.
Mr. Samuelson affirmed that would be so. Stage 2 of the study addresses that potential.
Mr. Blosser stated that the study projects an increase of approximately 25 vehicles in evening
peak hour cut - through traffic, and on a daily basis, a decrease of 73 vehicles is expected. With
traffic calming devices in place, that 25- vehicle increase should be much less.
Mr. Samuelson noted that the study indicates a 15 -20 percent potential reduction in total trips on
Tara Hill Drive.
The Task Force agreed they would not review specific traffic - calming options in this forum and
deferred the remainder of the report for Council review. They thanked the consultants for
providing the information necessary for the Task Force's review.
Public Comment
A resident inquired if it has then been decided that Post Road will be realigned.
Mr. Blosser indicated that this body would make a recommendation to Council, and Council will
then make that decision.
Mr. Kranstuber indicated that the Task Force would vote on that recommendation later this
evening.
Charles Kuntz, 5711 Tara Hill Drive inquired if the study data addresses the traffic on Tara Hill
Drive that is taking the back door into the Recreation Center.
Mr. Samuelson responded that the study took into consideration Downpatrick traffic — 109
vehicles traveling to the Recreation Center traveled Downpatrick in the morning; 160 vehicles
traveled the street to the Recreation Center in the afternoon. The percentage of that number
which could be students traveling to a satellite parking area was not assessed.
Mr. Kuntz inquired about the anticipated effects of the realignment of Post Road and traffic
calming on Tara Hill on that traffic.
Mr. Samuelson stated that the analysis does not address that. He noted that in the late evening,
when 160 vehicles use Downpatrick, another 260 vehicles travel Post Road to the Recreation
Center and another 150 vehicles travel Coffman Park Drive to the Recreation Center.
Lou Baurigartener, 710 Calvary Ct. , stated that he is the new president of the Indian Run
Meadows Association. He inquired if the section of Post Road within the park area would have a
lower speed than the remainder of the road.
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Mr. Ciarochi stated that the speed limit on residential roads is 25 mph, school zones are 20 mph,
and park areas are 15 mph. However, the speed limit on this section of Post Road would not be
less than 25 mph.
Jim Hostettler, 5363 Erin Isles Ct ., stated that he lives one block off Tara Hill Drive. He did not
have an opportunity to complete the survey on Tara Hill. Why is his home not considered within
the affected area?
Mr. Kranstuber agreed that it is important how the affected area is defined. He has received
many comments from residents in adjacent neighborhoods using Tara Hill Road. Residents in
the southern section of Hemingway Village are concerned that the collector street that they use
will become slow and burdensome to travel. It is important to look at the whole of Hemingway
Village, Indian Run Meadows and Shannon Park to give Council all the information they need to
make this decision. Council will need to be extraordinarily careful and selective in its choices
for this area.
Ms. Salay stated that at the May 7th traffic - calming meeting, this problem was also identified.
Solutions for one neighborhood can have a negative affect on another area. Of necessity, the
affected area will become much larger.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the study looked first at Tara Hill. Then, Stage 2 looked at the locations
that will be affected by traffic - calming measures on Tara Hill.
Ms. Willis stated that the next public meeting, which will report on the findings of Stage 2 of the
traffic study, will include all homes in the larger area affected by Tara Hill traffic issues.
Mr. Hostettler inquired if the study took into consideration any diversion traffic off Tara Hill,
onto Roscommon then to Coffman Park. This would be primarily those vehicles bypassing the
intersection at Tara Hill and Coffman Road.
Mr. Samuelson stated that the study did look at that issue and identified a 30 percent cut - through
traffic onto Roscommon to reach Coffman Park.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that it is not a necessary issue for tonight's discussion, but in their review,
Council will want to identify the destinations of the cut - through traffic.
Mila Hostettler, 5363 Erin Isles Ct ., inquired if the City had invited the opinions of the residents
and businesses on Post Road. There is still room for development on Perimeter — have those
property owners been informed of the proposed realignment of Post Road?
Mr. Cline stated that was addressed. This plan takes into consideration any potential for growth.
The Post Road residents have been involved in this study and are supportive of it. There is a
traffic study of Post Road to the west, including the effect of a left -turn lane southbound on
Muirfield to Post Road.
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Ms. Hostettler inquired if it has been determined that Perimeter would be able to handle the
future development that will occur in that location.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that much of that area is greenspace. If it were not developed as a park, it
would be developed as office, hotel, and business. Part of the citizenry believes that type of
development should occur in order to increase tax revenue.
Ms. Salay stated that Perimeter Drive was designed as the major east -west connector for this
area. The Community Plan also identified the location of the City central campus and a park in
this area. The new plan has more greenspace than the original plan. It eliminates a large amount
of income- producing and traffic- producing development. When Mr. Clear conducted the first
traffic study, the Perimeter -Post area was evaluated from a built -out perspective.
Mr. Cline stated that Perimeter Drive was planned as the major connector to replace Post Road.
There will be five lanes on the section of Perimeter Drive west of Metatec, and a potential of five
lanes next to the Justice Center. There is also a narrower section next to Venture Drive that is
limited to three lanes. If the right -of -way is limited, how could that section be widened?
Mr. Clear stated that the road width is not reduced due to the unavailability of right -of -way. The
area itself restricts the need for more lanes. Traffic is distributed within the site, and there is no
need to widen that area.
Mr. Ciarochi suggested that a total recap of the recommendations, including those related to
transportation improvements and traffic - calming devices, be compiled.
Mr. Blosser agreed that the Task Force should forward a comprehensive packet of
recommendations to Council.
Task .Force Comments on East Campus Recommendations
Ms. Bergdall requested that the recommendations be separated, indicating which costs are related
to City Hall and those which are related to the park.
Ms. Salay stated that for the first time, the new City Hall has been scheduled on the CIP. This
includes both the land acquisition and the new structure. Now that it is scheduled, it is not as
critical to separate the cost.
Mr. Cline stated that he is more concerned with exceeding what City Council considers to be this
group's charter. There are many influences that the Task Force has considered in determining its
final recommendations, which may fall to staff to explain, for instance, the benefit of two left-
turn lanes southbound on Coffman Road to accommodate increased Cardinal Health traffic, and
a second left -turn lane from Avery - Muirfield onto Perimeter Drive to avert failure in 2015. If
the Task Force attempts to make technical arguments, it may appear to be " over reaching its
purpose." He would prefer those arguments be made by staff.
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Mr. Yoder stated that it would, however, be necessary to provide an explanation to Council on
how the Task Force has reached a comfort level on many of the recommendations. Perhaps the
recommendations could include that the traffic issues on Tara Hill be addressed as part of the
park development. This group has identified the important issues related to the park
development and should share those with Council.
Mr. Blosser stated that all the pertinent study data, Task Force minutes, and public input would
be provided to City Council. Consequently, Council would be aware of how the decisions or
recommendations came about.
Mr. Yoder agreed, but noted that a simple measure, such as indicating in the motion that ".... the
Tara Hill traffic issues be addressed as part of the park development" would clarify the intent.
Ms. Salay stated that early in the study it became evident that the park would be shaped by the
road network. If the road had continued to run through the middle, the product would have been
much different. Consequently, this group asked Council for the traffic study, which Council
authorized. Therefore, it would not seem likely that Council would consider the Task Force had
overstepped its boundaries in addressing Tara Hill traffic concerns. Council is aware that this
work could not be conducted in a vacuum.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that this plan would ensure a greenspace for the community's children and
grandchildren. It is not a small venture -- it will create a signature park for Dublin. There is
nothing comparable. However, realigning Post Road is necessary to accomplish the aesthetics of
this park, and two traffic studies have confirmed that the realignment will have minimal impact
on Tara Hill. R. D. Zande's report tonight indicates any additional cut - through traffic would be
small — 15 -25 additional vehicles per day. Once the traffic improvements have been made and
the new high school is completed, the community will enjoy the benefits of improved traffic flow
and a beautiful park.
Ms. Salay stated agreed that nothing else would compare with this plan. She is extremely proud
to have been a part of the process. The plan includes some ingenious ideas, such as moving the
active use in the park from the residential area to the Justice Center. Perhaps it would also be
prudent to move the more active /noisy Irish Festival performances further south — away from the
residential areas.
Ms. Bergdall stated that she believes this plan will add many new park amenities for the
community. It will be a wonderful gem to add to Dublin's park system.
Mr. Cline provided a historical reference. He clarified that the idea for this central City campus
is not new. It was born when the City conceived the idea of extending Coffman Road across US
33. That original plan, in addition, removed Post Road from the plan. It isn't a new concept, but
a different concept. The fact that the land uses have changed within the perimeter development
area has made it possible to return to that original plan. It seems evident that this is the correct
choice unless there is a reason identified which indicates otherwise. The Task Force
consequently raised that question — is there such a reason? That precipitated the first traffic
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study of the adjacent area. Several months later, after a second study, it is evident there is no
reason not to proceed with this beautiful 70 -acre park, which will also include a new site for the
center of City government in Dublin. He thoroughly supports the entire plan and is convinced
that the Task Force's recommendation is the best decision to make for the future of the City.
Mr. Yoder stated that he wholeheartedly supports the plan, as well. This plan includes many
ideas; it is a "work in progress." It is a good idea, and good ideas keep growing. The Task
Force's job may be completed when the recommendations are finalized, but the work and
development will continue. He enjoyed being part of the idea phase.
Mr. Blosser stated that he has enjoyed working with the staff and fellow Task Force members,
and is very proud of the product. He is hopeful that this plan well accommodates the needs of
the community. He stated that the east campus park recommendations appear to be ready for a
vote. The west campus plan remains for continued Task Force study.
Mr. Kranstuber moved: (1) that the concept plan for the east campus of Coffman Park as
proposed by staff, be submitted to City Council for consideration; the plan would include
development of the Nyrop property as a nature center and (3) the recommendation that Council
address Tara Hill traffic - calming issues in conjunction with the park development.
Mr. Cline inquired about inclusion of the transportation recommendations.
Task Force consensus was to include those recommendations with the concept plan for the west
campus.
Mr. Blosser seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion: Yes — 5; No — 0
Mr. Kranstuber stated that lie and Ms. Salay appreciate the dedication, work, passion,
history /knowledge, community representation, and leadership of the individual task force
members.
Mr. Cline added that he works with the development community and is familiar with working
with planners. He would like Council to know that he is impressed with the quality of planning
provided by City staff.
Ms. Salay inquired if this is a stand -alone package and could be forwarded to Council without
the addition of the west campus recommendations.
Task Force consensus was that the east campus recommendations are stand -alone and will be
forwarded to Council when placed in a final form.
Mr. Blosser invited the public to meet with the traffic consultants to seek answers to traffic -
related questions.
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The next meeting dates of the Task Force are Tuesday, September 9 and Tuesday September 23
at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting of the Coffinan Park Expansion Task Force at 9:30 p.m.
Assistant Clerk of Council
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers — Dublin Municipal Building
5200 Emerald Parkway
Meeting Agenda
Call to Order
II. Public Comment Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes of August 27, 2003 Meeting.
IV. Regular Meeting
• Discussion Regarding Presentation to Council of Proposal for Coffman
Park — East Side
Discussion of Park Components for Coffman Park — West Side.
V. Public Comment
VI. Next Meeting date: September 23, 2003
VII. Adjourn
MINUTES OF THE
COFFMAN PARK EXPANSION TASK FORCE
September 9, 2003
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers
Present Staff:
Keith Blosser, Chair Frank Ciarochi
Chuck Kranstuber Paul Hammersmith
Amy Salay
Fred Hahn
Valerie Bergdall, DVM
Carson Combs
Bill Yoder
Barb Cox
Chris Cline
Jeannie Willis
Kay Neffenger
Barb Burkholder
Roger Eastep (excused)
Others
Doyle Clear, Parsons Transportation Group
Call to Order
Mr. Blosser called the meeting to order. He noted that the purpose of tonight's meeting is to: (1)
review the final set of east side /phase one recommendations for Coffman Park, and (2) to
develop recommendations for the west side, or phase two, of the Coffman Park expansion.
Approval of Minutes
Ms. Neffenger noted that Mr. Cline's name should be included in the list of attendees of the
August 27, 2003 meeting. Ms. Salay requested that staff carefully review the technical
information recorded from the Tara Hill Study discussion to ensure that the information was
reported accurately.
Mr. Cline moved to approve the August 27, 2003 Task Force minutes as amended.
Ms. Salay seconded the motion.
Vote Yes — 7; No — 0.
Task Force Presentation
Mr. Blosser stated that he has been advised that Council has scheduled their review of the Task
Force's recommendations at a study session on October 13. He had anticipated being involved
in the presentation, but he has another commitment on that date. Ms. Salay stated that she and
Mr. Kranstuber could request that Council reschedule the study session to Monday, October 27.
All Task Force members indicated they would be available on that date. Mr. Kranstuber agreed,
noting that the revised date is tentative at this point. It must be confirmed with Council at their
next meeting on Monday, September 15. He added that by rescheduling the discussion, it should
also be possible to have the recommendations for the west side ready for presentation.
Mr. Blosser inquired which Task Force members would be willing to assist staff with the
presentation.
Mr. Cline stated that, as chair of the Task Force, Mr. Blosser should lead the presentation.
I Iowever, he would also like to participate. He suggested that all of the Task Force members
should be present.
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Ms. Salay agreed that it would be preferable if all members attend to give Council the
opportunity to publicly thank the Task Force members for their work.
Mr. Blosser stated that staff would be preparing and making the formal presentation. He
inquired how the Task Force members could assist.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that staff is presently preparing the base report, which will include: (1) all of
the Task Force minutes to date, and (2) a cover memo which will describe the review process,
the recommendations and the main discussion items critical to developing the recommendations.
For the presentation, it would be helpful if the Task Force members could also describe the
process, and, from their point of view, the key elements which brought them to their final
recommendations in the plan. There will be a bullet -point outline and graphics to assist Council
in following the verbal presentation. Mr. Clear will also present an executive summary,
including an outline, providing the basic conclusions of the traffic analysis. They anticipate
having small -scale graphics to illustrate the left -turn movements discussed within the process. It
would be appropriate for the Task Force to follow up staff's presentation with their
recommendations.
Mr. Blosser suggested that he work with staff to develop the first draft of the cover memo,
although all Task Force members would have input on the presentation of the recommendations.
Mr. Cline stated that the traffic study results presented by Zande & Associates at the last Task
Force meeting was the most compelling information he received throughout the process. They
answered the crucial question of the study, which was: What would be the impact of the plan, if
implemented, on Tara Hill traffic?
Ms. Salay inquired when Council would receive the full Tara Hill Traffic Study presentation.
Mr. Kranstuber responded that it is scheduled on the September 15th agenda.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that the Task Force will have a draft of the Task Force presentation to
preview at their next meeting. In addition to that, he suggests that the presentation include a
brief outline of the main points of the Tara Hill traffic analysis that are relevant to the park
expansion plan. Council will have received the full report on the 15th; the outline would refresh
their memory on the issues pertinent to this study.
Ms. Salay indicated that she will be unavailable on Monday, September 23, for the Task Force
meeting. Because it is the final meeting, she requests that, if possible, the meeting be
rescheduled.
Task Force consensus was to defer rescheduling of the meeting until the end of tonight's
meeting.
Staff Comments
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Mr. Combs noted that a final version of the Coffman Park Expansion — East Campus Plan is
displayed on the wall. The final draft includes a nature center to be located on the former Nyrop
property. The site would be integrated with the adjacent Recreation Center uses, including a
parking lot for large vehicles. The nature center would provide wildlife education, allowing
special groups to provide public presentations or seminars. The existing buildings could provide
space for storage or classrooms. A winding path would lead to the existing covered bridge.
There are different open areas that could be used for a variety of outdoor activities.
Mr. Combs presented a first draft of the west campus plan, which includes the area west of the
east campus to the Red Trabue Nature Preserve. He noted that the plan suggests picnic grounds
and a Council ring in the open space adjacent to the existing playground and pond. There is the
potential of additional wetland area for secondary treatment of the pond to integrate the plant life
into the corridor for environmental reasons. Also, additional plantings would be added in the
general area to create a prairie or savannah -type environment. Existing crossings would
primarily be used throughout the trail system, although the trail system may be moved in some
areas to provide better use of the park space. Reforestation would be added along the Dantzer
property and near the Community Relations Building.
Other proposed uses the Task Force has considered for the west campus are: a petting zoo, pony
rides, exercise stations along the trail, additional bikepaths or nature trails integrated into the
system where needed, and camping.
Mr. Combs noted that the corridor links a much larger open -space system. The intent is to link
all the subdivisions and Metro park through an extensive greenway network. Eventually, the
Indian Run corridor will extend all the way to the Metro park. This meets one of the key goals
of the Community Plan, which is to look at the open space from a comprehensive point of view.
It is necessary to consider the open space and parking in terms of the number of homes that
should have access to the park. Not all of the users can walk to the park. There must be parking
accommodations for the different activities. For instance, it is a substantial distance from the
Trabue Nature Preserve to the playground facilities, and it is approximately 3,500 — 4,000 feet
from Community Relations or the Recreation Center to the playground. Other neighborhood
parks within the City provide parking accommodations, however, Coffman Park does not have
any on -site parking. The plan suggests two potential sites for future parking, as needed -- on the
Halloran property, which has an existing curbcut, and on the Dantzer property, which has an
existing parking area that could be expanded.
Dr. Bergdall stated that she lives within the park area and her family uses the bikepath almost
daily. She has observed that the parking lot for the Trabue Nature Preserve is rarely used;
therefore, she questions the need for additional parking areas. The playground and bikepath use
appear to be resident - driven. It is not desirable to cover greenspace with asphalt unless there is a
real need. There is parking at the Rec Center.
Mr. Combs stated that Planning views the park as part of the bigger system, and people do like to
travel to a variety of sites to jog or bike.
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Ms. Salay stated that the residents in the neighborhood area probably have the best perspective
on the degree of use and need for parking. However, she has also noticed the parking at the
Trabue Nature Preserve is seldom used. It should be possible for users from outside the area to
park at the Rec Center. Perhaps a very small space, such as the one at Heather Glen Park could
be located on the Halloran property, but nothing morel. She added that the City Manager has
discussed with some residents the need for a "special needs" playground within the community.
If that were to be located in Coffman Park, perhaps some parking area would be needed.
Mr. Yoder stated that he concurs with three of the uses proposed on this plan — exercise stations,
additional bike and nature trails, but he does not agree with a camping use. There is the issue of
security, both for the campers and for the neighborhood residents. Strange people in the park
after dark is a questionable use. A petting zoo and pony rides would be more appropriately
located in the eastern side, or more active, side of the park.
Mr. Kranstuber noted that it is staff's job is to suggest the options, and he thanked Mr. Combs
for a nice presentation. However, the Task Force subsequently dissects the plan to evaluate the
various concepts. Perhaps if all the active attractions are eliminated from the western campus
and that side of the park remains a natural area, there would be no need for parking spaces. If
future use should dictate otherwise, a future Council can address that.
Dr. Bergdall stated that the camping discussed is the City- sponsored family summer camping
program. That could be relocated to the Halloran property.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if the reforestation for the Community Relations area is suggested for
the area around the current building, or is it to cover the area vacated by the Community
Relations building, when eliminated?
Mr. Combs stated that reforestation would apply to either option. The Task Force did not
express clear consensus on that issue.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that he is open to both positions; however, presently, he considers the
better choice would be to eliminate the office /commercial use from that site. Also, he would
prefer to see the reforestation on the turn done in a natural manner — trees and tall grasses — a
good location for some creativity.
Mr. Cline stated that he also has concerns about reforestation and security issues — actually, they
tie together. Most of the subdivisions do not have fences. Traveling the bikepath brings bikers
into the residents' backyards. He is concerned that providing parking would encourage more
people from outside the neighborhood to use the park, which would result in many more
strangers having access to the yards of the homes within the park. This compromises the security
of the homes.
He stated that Coffman Park is already an existing park, which is working very well for the
neighborhood. This plan is merely to expand the park. The volume of use is already known.
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The residential development around the park is complete, and those homeowners are the users of
the park. The only other users would be those accessing the corridor at some other point along
the greenbelt. The security issue is critical. That is what has made the park successful to date —
the residents have felt secure using the park. He does not believe the City should feel a need to
provide park services for non - residents, and does not favor additional parking in the west campus
of the park.
Mr. Cline also addressed the reforestation proposal. He stated that, for years, the City has strived
to achieve an open feel along Post Road. This has been accomplished primarily by the Cline and
Kinman properties, as none of the other properties have extensive vistas. If the City plants trees
to close in the vistas, it may be moving in the wrong direction. Dublin, as with most urban
environments, has a shortage of vista, and preserving this particular vista is important. Planting a
large number of trees and blocking the view is the wrong approach. This also impacts the
security of the neighborhood. Open vista does not provide areas in which to hide; however,
trees, shrubs, etc. offer secluded areas.
Ms. Salay stated that this issue was brought up at a recent Planning and Zoning meeting. At that
meeting, one of the Commissioners noted that the Police division appreciates the ability to look
within a park from their vantage point. She suggested that it would be wise to request the Police
division's opinion from a patrol perspective. Secluded public areas, in which access is not
controlled, is where mischief will flourish. It is important to discourage this opportunity in a
neighborhood park.
Ms. Salay stated that she was confused by the suggestion to reforest what was defined as a
savannah/prairie area. Isn't a prairie an open space with no trees?
Mr. Combs responded that a prairie is generally an open, grassy area within wooded edges. In
this area, the intent is primarily for a savannah area, in which large specimen trees are
interspersed throughout the grassy area.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is a heavily wooded, secluded area behind his home, which the
residents love. However, in this area within Coffman Park, the open vista would look more
natural. He is in agreement with Mr. Cline and Ms. Salay.
Ms. Neffenger stated that she also lives near the area under discussion, and she does not believe
heavy reforestation of that area would be desirable to the residents. She agrees that it would be
more to their advantage to leave the vista open.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that large, widely- spaced oak trees would be acceptable, but a thick,
forested area would not.
Mr. Cline stated that it should be possible to see through the trees.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that in order to give staff clear direction, it would be best to reach a
consensus on discussion items.
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The Task Force indicated consensus on recommending to Council the following items:
(1) that reforestation of the savannah area not be pursued;
(2) that the Community Relations building be eliminated when the new City Hall building has
been completed;
(3) that additional parking not be included in the west campus at this time.
Mr. Cline referred to the existing houses within the park area. It was Council's policy that when
properties within the park area were purchased, the former owners would be permitted to remain
in the homes for a specified time. When they vacated the properties, new residents would not be
sought, and the houses would be eliminated. However, the Nyrop house is suggested for use as a
nature center. In addition, he dislikes the prospect of the Dantzer house being removed from that
location. He inquired Dr. Bergdall's view.
Dr. Bergdall stated that she also appreciates that house. She suggested the rule of thumb should
be if the house aesthetically complements the park, keep it. If not, eliminate it.
Mr. Cline stated that it takes a significant investment of time and effort to keep up a property's
appearance. He urged the City that if they continue to rent the City -owned properties, that they
be careful to rent the homes only to parties who will maintain the properties well.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired staff's recommendation regarding the farmhouse.
Mr. Combs agreed that the house is in good condition. Staff has no particular recommendation
for that house.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that Council's present agreement with the residents in the Coffman Park area
is that when the City acquires properties, the sellers will be permitted to remain in the properties
for a certain length of time. However, whenever the houses are vacated, they are to be taken
down.
Ms. Salay inquired if there is any historical significance to the house? The house is older than
the other buildings in the area. The City's intent was to preserve homes with rural character.
Mr. Cline stated that the house dates from the 1920's. Mary Segner Orrer was born in that house
and lived there most of her life.
Mr. Blosser inquired if the Task Force wanted to suggest some uses for the recently vacated
Dantzer house.
Mr. Cline stated that he would prefer to see it remain a residence, if the City is willing to make
the effort to rent it carefully. It is a nice home, and it should not be difficult to attract the right
renters.
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Ms. Salay stated that renting it is preferable to programming it with an active use, which would
draw traffic. however, Council will have to decide whether it wants to be in the long -term
business of being a landlord.
Mr. Yoder suggested installing deed restrictions on the house regarding its care and use, then
selling it on the open market. Included in the deed restriction could be the City's right to buy
back the house, if the deed restrictions aren't met.
Mr. Cline stated that he would prefer it remain a residence, but it would be Council and staff's
decision as to how that would be accomplished.
Ms. Salay stated that she would not want to see the character of the house changed or anything
else built on the property, and deed restrictions could accomplish that. She would be interested
in hearing the Law Director's view on the issue.
Mr. Yoder stated that the house must remain compatible with the park.
Mr. Blosser stated that it would be sufficient to recommend to Council that the house remain a
residence, if it can complement the park.
Ms. Salay inquired if staff had any objections to that.
Mr. Hahn stated that it is essential for Council to consider its overall policy regarding being in
the property management business.
Dr. Bergdall stated that a petting zoo or pony ride would be better placed at the Nyrop property.
Mr. Blosser agreed that those are active uses and would be better placed there. He likes the idea
of exercise stations, bikepaths linking to the Metro park, a Council ring, and picnic grounds. He
does not support the ideas of camping, other than a City- sponsored event, or of heavy
reforestation.
Mr. Cline stated that there are 70 acres in the eastern portion of the park, adequate space for all
of the active uses to be located there.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the houses adjacent to the Costello - Bergdall property have not been
addressed. The park is working fine around those rentals, so the Task Force could make a simple
recommendation to maintain them as residences, as long as that works. Or perhaps they are not
within the Task Force's purview?
Ms. Bergdall stated that presently the bikepath runs across the front yards of those properties,
along Post Road. Since there is already a bikepath along Post Road on the other side of the road,
it would be better to have this path cut back at Community Relations and run behind those
properties.
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Mr. Cline stated that he would envision the path running behind the Dantzer home. The plan
suggests that area for reforestation because it is floodplain. Actually, the area was filled in and
raised about 15 feet a few years ago, and it is no longer floodplain. A Letter of Map Revision
(LMR) was granted to Mr. Segner, but it was not filed.
He noted that the narrow strip of land on the Halloran property across from Metatec is where a
playground and picnic area are proposed. He suggested that it would be better to place the
Council ring internally on the property, perhaps between the creek and the northern boundary.
That would probably be the best place to do reforestation, to block the view of Metatec.
Ms. Salay agreed with placing the Council ring in a more secluded area on the Halloran property,
farther away from Metatec.
Mr. Cline suggested that the Council ring be set into a hill and lined with stone. It would be of a
circular form, approximately 20 feet, with benches where a book could be read.
Ms. Salay stated that there is a structure within Donegal Cliffs Park at the bottom of the hill and
overlooking the river. This is a semi - circle, a stone wall, knee to waist high, with a flagstone
patio.
Mr. Yoder inquired if the Council ring would have a roof.
Mr. Cline stated that it would not.
Ms. Salay suggested that a gazebo, however, could be included in the area next to the
playground, where it could provide shade. One of the earlier park plans included little shelter
homes along the pedestrian/bikepath, too small for groups, but adequate for quick shelter from a
storm.
Mr. Yoder noted that park benches along the pond would add a place to reflect on the natural
beauty of the area.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Mr. Eastep had made a similar suggestion in the list of comments he
provided for tonight's meeting.
Mr. Kranstuber inquired if it would be possible to make Post Road more aesthetically pleasing.
Ms. Salay stated that in one of the Task Force's first meetings, staff brought in presentation
boards with drawings depicting park roads with tree canopies, cobblestone bridges, and other
suggestions for making a road look scenic. She requested that those drawings be provided again.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that this would not mean any changes to the plan. A footnote could be
added that when Post Road is improved, it be improved in ways to make it appear more natural
and scenic.
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Mr. Cline stated that there is a surface material that can be applied to park roads that encourages
slower speeds.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Cleveland Metro parks uses that type of aggregate, and instead of
steel guardrails, they use wood guardrails. However, it isn't necessary for this group to be
specific -- just a footnote that recommends that when the road is improved, it be done with a
park -like emphasis.
Mr. Cline stated that there are some materials that can be used for both public and private land.
They would not be averse to committing to those types of materials, so that the homes fit into the
bucolic concept of the park. A common fence could carry through the entire area.
Mr. Yoder suggested that Post Road be designated a scenic road.
Mr. Cline stated that it has been designated a scenic road, and an effort has been made to enforce
a 200 -foot setback.
Mr. Ciarochi inquired if the Task Force would want a final revision of the plan for their next
meeting.
Mr. Blosser agreed that if staff would have the time to produce it, a final version would be
appreciated.
Public Comment
Yim Wong, 5822 Tara Hill Drive suggested that the plan should be developed with the
overlying consideration of cost and benefit. Dublin residents pay the cost, and it should be
considered what would benefit them. She agrees with Mr. Cline's comment that it is not
necessary to attract outsiders. Dublin already has done much of that with the Irish Festival, the
Fourth of July fireworks, and other attractions. During the Irish Festival, strangers take all the
parking space in front of her house, and her neighborhood is crowded and noisy with strangers --
outsiders benefiting at Tara Hill residents' expense. She has a friend who lives in Grove City
who visits the Dublin Recreation Center every week and takes her children to the park — another
outsider benefiting from this community. Therefore, regarding the discussion about adding
parking: if asphalt parking is added, who pays the cost, and who benefits? Outsiders may
benefit, but the adjacent homeowners would pay the price with reduced land values and security
issues. In summary, the benefits should be planned for Dublin residents.
Chris SMch, 6905 Conquistador Ct . noted that he has lived in Dublin 16 years. He stated that
although the park expansion idea is good, it does not appear that the Task Force has sufficient
cross - section feedback. The public comments are from too narrow a cross section. He stated
that it is necessary to plan for inclement weather for park users. As a safety issue, there must be
shelter houses throughout the park. Addressing the parking issue: there are already many park
users parking on the side streets, rather than at the Ree Center. Park users do bring their cars to
the area. Dublin will eventually have to address the parking need. Regarding the landlord
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consideration: the City must weigh the cost of maintaining the buildings versus the income from
the rentals. Will the rentals actually benefit the City? Another consideration is, if the older
home contains radon, it would not be suitable for a residence.
Rae Lambert, 6875 Ketchum Court displayed the 1 -27 -03 map of proposed disposition of City
properties within the Coffman Park area. She stated that the residents in her neighborhood are
concerned about that plan and would like an update from the Task Force regarding that proposal.
She was furious when she first heard the proposal. She grew up on the east coast where open
space is rare and extremely valuable. Selling the farmhouse with deed restrictions isn't adequate
insurance, and the land would be much more expensive to re- purchase later. Once a City
acquires parkland, it should never give it up. On the east coast, that would be considered a sin.
Dublin is in a position where it still has elbow room. It is beauty that should not be given away.
If the City starts putting something else in its place, it is defeating its purpose. Why would
housing have greater value than parkland? This plan is scary, and she would like to know what it
is about and where it came from.
Ms. Salay responded that 18 months ago, staff brought to Council a plan for Coffman Park
expansion. She had issues with some of the elements in that plan. She did not believe they were
compatible with the residential character of the area. The plan came before Council without
any public review, except for a couple of Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission (PRAC)
meetings. Most of the residents in the neighborhood were not aware of the plan. She presented
those issues at that Council meeting. At that Council meeting, it was decided that the concept for
the expansion was too large for Council to address. Ms. Chinnici- Zuercher, an at -large Council
representative, stated that when Council has major issues to be decided, Council does its best
work when it has committees or task forces break away from Council as a whole and address the
issue. They can go to the community, obtain input, and put all the ideas on the table. Her hope
was that all those ideas — residential development in the park, passive parkland, more or less land
acquisition, road orientation — would be brought out in the open so that the entire public could
provide feedback on what they want in their community park. The Community Plan envisioned
this to be the central community campus, containing the municipal seat of government as well as
park elements.
Ms. Salay continued that the intent was that this Task Force would be the medium to review all
ideas, and determine which ones were worth keeping. The plan to which the speaker refers is
one committee member's idea for solving a financial issue. The City owns the easternmost part
of the east campus. The westernmost part of the east campus, however, will cost $2 -3M to
acquire. The issue is how to pay for that. In the past several years, the City had a surplus of
income tax revenue -- above that which had been programmed, which the City was able to spend
on parkland acquisition. The economy has changed significantly, and the revenue will no longer
be there for certain properties the City had hoped to acquire for parkland. The idea was that if
there is no park purpose for some of the land the City had recently acquired in this area, perhaps
the City should sell that land in order to be able to acquire the parcel that is essential for this
park. The plan proposed potential development for every parcel that could possibly be
developed. After the plan was unfolded, the Task Force members realized it was not a good
idea; it was never close to being adopted. She had personally walked the area and tried to
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envision some of that development. Unable to accept that vision, she came to the conclusion that
it would be better to put the parkland into passive use than develop it. The plan proposed for the
west campus tonight reflects that overall view of the Task Force. The Task Force has mostly
given up the idea of selling any of the land.
Ms. Lambert stated that she hoped the City's position is more certain than that. There is a
specific piece of property that is across the street from the circle of the bikepath at the base of
Conquistador. The people who had purchased that property were told that it was too dangerous a
location on which to build a home. There was a trade in properties to apparently enable the
people to build further down the road. Three months later, this plan reveals a possible way for
the City to make some money on the property by selling it for development.
Ms. Salay stated that misunderstanding occurred when some of the discussion took place
publicly, some did not. However, as Mr. Blosser has stated, this is a marketplace of ideas. All
of the ideas will be discussed publicly where it can be determined which ideas are good for the
community.
Ms. Lambert stated that as a homeowner who has a vista of that park area, she feels compelled to
reiterate the opinion that parkland which a municipality has acquired should never be re -sold for
development purposes; that if originally it was considered to have parkland purpose, then
parkland purpose can be found for it; that the City should never appear to be in a position of
helping a single developer. When constructing a subdivision, developers are required by the City
to donate parkland. Therefore, a developer would have the right to take issue with the City
selling parkland to another developer.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that none of that earlier plan is reflected on the plan that is being
considered now. He assumes that the plan Ms. Lambert sees tonight is acceptable.
Ms. Lambert indicated that the plan is essentially good; there are a couple of minor issues she
would like to discuss with someone.
Mr. Kranstuber indicated that the Task Force would be glad to hear her views. Other than he and
Ms. Salay, the Task Force is made up of members of the community who are trying to publicly
plan a park in a way that is good for the community. Ms. Salay was correct two years ago when
she said that Council should not move forward on a park plan that had not been discussed with
the residents of that community. It is intellectually frustrating, however, to have anyone's
hands tied for discussion purposes. No idea should be politically incorrect to explore. Every
way to save money should be considered. There may be many ideas that he or other members
have proposed that will not "stick." If ideas initially appear good, the professionals on staff
evaluate them. Sometimes they determine the ideas will not work. However, also doing their
jobs, the press reported that earlier discussion, and now the public is needlessly anxious.
Recently, a candidate for Council has even indicated that, if elected, he would not be in favor of
selling back parkland. Whoever said the City was going to sell back parkland?
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This plan discussed tonight also may not be accepted by Council. The plan is much larger than
Council originally envisioned and greatly enhances Coffman Park. The Task Force believes that
the traffic is already heavy on Perimeter, Post and Emerald Parkway, and essentially has "spent"
millions of dollars, if this plan is approved, to remove this potentially productive land from
development into offices /hotels. Some Council members and citizens may not think the proposal
is economically sound. The net story at the end of this process is that this Task Force has given
the neighborhood a plan and a public hearing, and for the community as a whole, a bigger and
better park, all of which is subject to the approval of Council.
Mr. Blosser stated that the Task Force members are dedicated to the preservation of greenspace
and have expended great effort to achieve the best possible park for the citizens of Dublin.
Personally, his goal has been to have everything discussed in public - no back -room deals. This
Task Force has operated as an open forum, and has benefited from extensive participation from
the residents, both from inside and outside the study area, civic associations, and from citizens
responding to the City's website comments option. All ideas are encouraged, and what the
speaker has in her hand is probably the "worst case scenario" of the ideas entertained by this
Task Force.
Ms. Salay stated that, for the record, she would like to clarify earlier comments she made, which
were misquoted by both The Dublin News and The Dublin Villager. When she spoke about
development in this area, she was referring to the Kinman land, a large, 7 -8 acre tract, which the
City does not own. The property owner and the City have not been able to agree on a price, and,
potentially, that property owner can develop his /her land. What she had said was that if that land
were to be developed, it would be to the City's advantage to make certain of the parkland
dedication on that piece, as is required by ordinance. The City needs to make certain of that east -
west connection that is so vital to the park. The Rec Center will eventually be linked to the Metro
Park by an extensive bikepath system. When she spoke about development in the park area, it
was of development over which the City may not have total control. Her comments were
accurately reflected in the Council minutes; however, the residents obtain their information
largely from the local papers. She understands it's difficult for a reporter to have every detail
accurate in the environment in which they are collecting the information.
Mr. Yoder stated that, for the benefit of additional clarification, he is glad the subject has arisen
again. It was an idea that the Task Force was asked to consider, and he was one who worked on
the idea. However, once on the table for discussion, the idea was discarded, and he believes it is
no longer an option for consideration. The Task Force has moved on to the present plan, which
the public sees here tonight.
Peter Leffler, 6866 Conquistador stated that he is an engineer by profession, and his property is
contiguous to the parkland, across from the curve mentioned by Ms. Lambert. He shared the
following concerns:
(1) Many park users park on their street. The only way the residents can assure a parking spot
for a visitor is to park one of their own cars on the street to reserve the spot. While he agrees that
the extensive parking at Red Trabue Nature Preserve is not necessary, a smaller area of parking
is needed in the middle of this park.
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(2) In regard to Post Road itself, emergency vehicles frequently travel that road. Have the Fire
and Police divisions given their opinion regarding adequate access on this rural road?
(3) The bikepath must be located on high ground. During recent rains, the creek reached well
beyond its normal height.
(4) Regarding the Dantzer property, it is valuable parkland and should not be sold. However, he
has no strong opinion as to whether the house should /shouldn't be eliminated.
Mr. Cline stated that he had pointed out in earlier written comments that the bikepath between
Conquistador and the Rec Center is essentially a super highway for bikes and pedestrians. West
on Conquistador, the volume is low. In the east section, where Mr. Leffler resides, the path
operates as a funnel for all the converging traffic. He inquired if that traffic appears to be
heading toward the Rec Center.
Mr. Leffler stated that during the warm months, the daily traffic is heading the other direction,
toward the pond.
Mr. Cline stated that there is a designated place for possible future parking further west, nearer to
the pond. Perhaps the Task Force should consider that. However, the residents in that area may
dislike that idea.
Mr. Leffler inquired if the area is on Beery Lane.
Mr. Hahn stated that the Coffman Park Master Plan does show potential parking on Beery Lane
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the Task Force expressed a consensus earlier on no additional parking,
but perhaps it would be wise to have staff further evaluate the idea of a small -scale parking area.
The intent is to preserve the greenspace, so it would be important to "think small" on the subject.
He inquired if the residents have investigated the option of "no parking" signs.
Mr. Leffler stated that available parking is minimal, and the residents do have need for what is
there. "No parking" signs would prevent the residents from having guests to their homes.
Mr. Cline stated that his opinion is that there is no need to provide access to a neighborhood park
for visitors from outside Dublin. However, consideration could be made for Dublin residents
north of the park.
Mr. Yoder stated that residents from outside the area would look for access on Post Road
Mr. Leffler stated that the park users appear to be coming from a distance to walk; if they were
residents, they would walk to the park.
Mr. Ciarochi stated that Mr. Combs would insert the option for a small number of parking spaces
into the final plan. The option can be removed, if not liked.
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Mr. Blosser agreed. The concern is that non - residents not find easy access to the park, while
Dublin residents are able to access it.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that there is substantial parking provided in the east campus of the park.
MaraKayeKnapp, 6963 Beery Lane stated that the parking suggested by staff in the plan is near
her home, and she does have concerns. She does not believe additional parking is'needed for
users of the pond area. Their street seldom has more than one park visitor per week. More park
visitors use Fallen Timbers than Beery Lane. In addition, the City just planted hundreds of
deciduous trees throughout the area proposed for the parking lot. They were placed near the
pond and along the bikepath. They fit in with the plan of reforestation, but they would have to
be taken down, if parking is placed in there. She expressed concern about the area being within
the flood area. Recently the water from the flooded creek reached those trees. Where would
parking be for the picnic grounds? She asked that the parking situation not lead to additional
parking on Tara Hill Drive.
Bob Fathman, 5805 Tartan Circle North stated that he is the Council candidate who raised the
issue of selling parkland within the Coffrnan Park area. He is very opposed to that idea. He
addressed it two years ago in a Letter to the Editor of a local paper, and more recently in his
campaign. Mr. Kranstuber and Ms. Salay have referred to that prospect as a misconception;
however, it is an accurate perception. There clearly was a suggestion from Ms. Salay that part of
that parkland be sold back to the public. He stated that Mr. Kranstuber was also on Council
when Council endorsed the policy of extending Coffman Park west along Post Road by making
land purchase offers 15% above market value for their properties. Council promised not to take
their properties by eminent domain, and that, if purchased, the homeowners could continue to
reside in those homes for thirty years and then sell the parkland to the City at that premium and
without realtor fees.
Mr. Fathman agrees with Ms. Lambert that it is unconscionable to consider the prospect of
selling parkland for development. He is pleased to hear that Task Force members may have
abandoned the idea. However, it appears not to have been completely resolved by this group.
Earlier tonight, one of the Task Force members suggested selling the farmhouse. The
suggestion was also made to continue renting all of those properties instead of abiding by the
Council's policy to acquire the properties, raze the houses and extend the parkland. This
community would be best served if this Task Force and the present Council stood by the original
plan to remove the City from the landlord business.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that, except for the Costello - Bergdall property, all of the properties from
the Rec Center up to Mr. Cline's property have been acquired and are now City properties.
Mr. Fathman stated that the Metro Parks Board has the same policy regarding Glacier Ridge
Park. They made the same type of offer to the residents, and acquired far more parkland at a
quicker rate than anticipated. He supports the Metro park model and Dublin City Council's
earlier model. He is glad to see that the Task Force is backing away from Ms. Salay's proposal,
but he would like to see Council firmly "kill" the idea.
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Ms. Bergdall stated that the farmhouse is not identified as parkland. It is still designated as
residential.
Mr. Fathman stated that it was one of the properties acquired by the City in accordance with its
original land acquisition plan for expansion of the Coffman Park area.
Ms. Bergdall responded that there was no plan; that is the reason this Task Force was formed.
Mr. Fathman stated that the Task Force was formed at Ms. Salay's suggestion and Ms. Chinnici-
Zuercher's formal request. The reason it was formed was in response to Ms. Salay's proposal to
sell off some of this parkland to raise money to buy other parkland. Councilman John Reiner
quite vocally objected to that proposal. While there was some dissension among Council
members, there was certainly a tendency of the members to go along with Ms. Salay's
suggestion. Because it was a controversial issue, Mayor McCash decided to table further
Council discussion and appointed this group to develop a plan for the expansion of Coffman
Park. However, the Task Force wasn't originally suggested for the purpose of developing a plan
— that was an afterthought. It was originally proposed to review the suggestion to sell off
parkland.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that Ms. Salay's proposal was to form this body to develop a plan with the
input of the neighbors. Her motion for a Task Force did not address the proposal of selling back
parkland.
Mr. Cline noted that Mr. Fathman has misstated some of Council's earlier actions. For
clarification purposes, he suggested that Mr. Fathman obtain copies of those Council minutes.
Mr. Blosser stated that previous to that action, Council assigned a similar task to PRAC, and
PRAC and staff developed an earlier concept plan for Coffman Park. Although the PRAC
meetings were public, the commission did not aggressively seek neighborhood input. Therefore,
there was very little input from the community. Traffic concerns were raised, which the
Commission did not have the authority to address. So the plan presented to Council was not as
thoroughly developed, as the product of this Task Force. Council identified the need for further
study.
Mr. Fathman stated that the residents are happy with the overall planning process, and there are
some absolutely beautiful concepts in the plan now proposed. However, the point the residents
are attempting to stress to the Task Force is that once the City has acquired or has a plan to
continue to acquire parkland, that even if a house has not yet been removed from the land, that
parkland not be resold for development.
Tarunjit Butalia, 6867 Conquistador Ct . stated that he likes the overall plan, but it has one flaw —
the gap between the east and west campuses. The plan leaves that space undesignated. In
excluding it from the parkland, it becomes an open invitation to developers. This group should
recommend that the Kinman property be acquired for parkland.
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Mr. Blosser stated if the Kinman property were not for sale, the City would not consider it in any
aspect with the park plan. However, it is for sale, so that may be a future possibility.
Mr. Cline stated that the City is aggressively pursuing that option.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the Task Force could submit as one of its recommendations that the
Kinman property be purchased at the earliest possible date.
Dean Eberhart, 6473 Fallen Timber Drive stated that he is a life -long resident of Dublin and has
resided at his present address for 17 years. He stated that when Indian Run Meadows was
developed, the City's Park and Recreation Division had discussions with the residents regarding
the development of the neighborhood park. Originally, the plan was for a retention pond to catch
runoff rains. It has turned into a very nice pond with the bikepath around it, located in the west
side of Coffman Park. This is the focal point of some of the discussion tonight. He would like to
comment on some of the proposals:
Greater Access - Bikepaths
As a result of the City's Planning and Zoning Commission disapproval of Mr. Halloran's
development plan, the City purchased the nearby Halloran property. The City took the position
that the Halloran property should be retained for scenic view. There was even discussion
regarding fencing the property to limit outside access. It is disturbing now to hear the City
taking about opening up this area to greater access. The plan suggests a bikepath along the south
side of Post Road, although there is one running along the north side of the Indian Run Corridor,
and connecting the southern bikepath somewhere across the creek to the residential bikepath.
That residential bikepath, which is west of the pond, is heavily used by the residents, but now the
City proposes introducing additional outside traffic. An east -west corridor is already in place.
He does not believe it is fair to the neighborhood to increase the bikepath usage in their area. In
addition, the maintenance cost for all these bikepaths is borne by the citizens.
Greater Access - Parking
The plan also proposes additional parking to facilitate access to the pond and surrounding area.
To date, there have been no parking problems, as it is the residents who use that area. The area
has been sufficiently busy as it is. There is no need to provide additional access. In his opinion,
parking lots promote problems for the neighborhood. The trash can at Red Trabue Nature
Preserve is full of empty beer containers, which indicates the activity occurring in that parking
lot.
Exercise Stations, Park Benches Council Rin
Regarding exercise stations — why put them in Coffman Park when the ones located in other
parks in town are seldom used? Park benches and a Council ring would promote problems in the
evenings. All of these concepts should be kept in the east campus of Coffman Park. It is less
residential with a higher police presence, and park elements that draw public participation are
more suitable in that area. Putting these evening gathering places in the west will promote abuse
by the teens in the area, and problems for the neighborhood.
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Park Nature of Road
In reference to the suggestion to increase the park nature of Post Road by covering the road with
an aggregate substance: that road surface greatly increases the noise from traffic. Won't police
and fire access suffer from that type of road? Has tunnel or bridge access been considered?
Reforestation
Hundreds of trees have already been planted in the northern edge of the Halloran property, in
addition to the large pine trees that already line the other side of the area. The City initially
expressed desire to develop this pond and open space for the neighborhood, and it has been a
great space. Last year, the neighborhood kids were playing golf in the open space area. Now the
City has planted trees, so an open space will no longer be available for activities. He stated that
he does not understand the purpose for populating the entire area with trees, when the area is
already lined with mature pines and a stand of mature deciduous trees runs through the middle of
the property. The expense of planting that many trees must have been enormous. Yet, the string
was not cut from the burlap that is wrapped around the trunk of the tree -- all of those trees still
remain tied with nylon cords today. Of the 75% that are still alive, many won't continue to
thrive, due to way in which they were planted.
Mr. Blosser asked staff to look into the nylon cord situation. He assured the citizens that the
Task Force agrees that the west side of the park should remain passive. The intent is simply to
add a couple of elements that would accentuate the park. He noted that there may be some
misconceptions regarding the definition and purpose of neighborhood parks. He lives in
Wyndham Village, and in the early stage of its development, the residents also met with City
staff to plan the park in their neighborhood. Initially, he thought it was a Wyndham Village Park
for use by the Wyndham Village residents. He learned that it is a Dublin park, located in
Wyndham Village, for the use of the City. Access is essential for everyone in the community,
although it will be used primarily by those who live closest to the park. There have also been
comments tonight from residents who cannot park on their own streets because too many
outsiders are coming in to access the park. It is important to have a balance in this issue, with the
primary focus of keeping the west side of the park passive. Because it is a Dublin park, it is fair
to have staff look at the merits of adding minimal parking spaces.
Mr. Cline stated that at the same time, it is important to remain cognizant that users of the
bikepath are in homeowners' backyards. This makes their homes vulnerable. He is very
concerned about introducing any elements that will put the homes at risk. He does not propose
that signs be erected to discourage use by non - residents, but he would prefer not to add anything
that could compromise the security of the neighborhoods.
Mr. Eberhart stated that there is not an access problem with the park in his neighborhood — users
are accessing it from the parking lot at Red Trabue Nature Preserve, the Rec Center parking lot,
and the east corridor. Therefore, he would assume that it is not necessary to add parking, as that
does invite outsiders.
Mr. Kranstuber stated that the consensus reached originally on this issue was no parking would
be added. Presently, there is no parking lot on Beery Lane. Staff has been asked, however, to
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identify a discreet corner where 6 -8 parking spaces could be added. Nothing larger will be
considered.
Mr. Sarych inquired if any of the properties facing Post Road adjacent to the park become
available for sale, would they be acquired by the City for the continued park expansion?
Mr. Ciarochi stated that no properties west of the Halloran property are included in the City's
policy.
Following discussion, the next meeting of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force was
rescheduled for Tuesday, September 30, at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Blosser adjourned the meeting of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force at 9:50 p.m.
Assistant Clerk of Council
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From: David Ball
To: Frank Ciarochi, Fred Hahn, Tami Moore
Date: 10/18/02 10:59A M
Subject: Coffman Park Task Force
Among the things we're doing to solicit public input into this process is having an interactive link on the
City web site where people can type in comments and e-mail the City. I suggested they come to Frank's
office via Tami and to Fred. I would imagine you'll begin receiving e -mails by mid -week.
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From: Tami Moore
To: Moore, Tami
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Thank you for your suggestions regarding the Coffman Park Expansion Plan. Please note that we will
forward your comments to the Task Force prior to their next meeting, November 21 at 7:00 p.m. We
appreciate your taking the time to provide your input.
Frank Ciarochi Fred Hahn
Asst. City Manager/ Dir. of Grounds & Facilities
Dir. of Development
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To: <aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 9/15102 9:40PM
Subject: Contact City Council Form
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(aclarke @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:19:24
01. Date: Sept. 15, 2002
02. Time: 9:00 PM
03. Topic: Post Rd., Perimeter Loop & Coffman Park
04. Comments: Please add my condo complex to the mailimg list for all info regarding Post Rd., Perimeter
Loop & Coffman Park & any other pertinent changes to our area. Village at Heatherstone at Perimeter &
Wilcox. Shirley Roy, Board Secretary.
05. Amy Salay: True
06. Have someone call me: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07, Name: Shirley Roy
09. Address: 6682 Heatherstone Loop
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Mi 43017
11. Daytime Phone: 614 -792 1311
12. E -mail: SRRoy @aol. com
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From: <aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
To: <aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 9/26/02 2:44PM
Subject: Contact City Council Form
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(aclarke @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:41:20
01. Date: 9/26/02
02. Time: 2:30 PM
03. Topic: Post Road Closing
04. Comments: I live on Tara Hill Drive. I recently read the meeting notes in the Dublin paper on the last
commitee meeting. Several concerns have yet to be addressed. 1. Adding 'raised" area to Tara Hill will do
nothing other than make it more difficult to plow and cause vehicle damage. 2. Post was closed due to an
accident at Coffman and Emerald I counted well over 25 cars in the line I was waiting in to get home not
25 per day. Your traffic expert is wrong. 3. Down patrick is a racetrack for poorly behaved high school
students. Closing Post adds traffic to Downpatrick after school. Police help Qwest and Cardinal Health
Direct traffic at my expense. I would like an officer assigned to Downpatrick daily to stop the fast driving,
loud music and damage being done to my road.4. Tara hill is used for parking by students and people
attending events at Dublin Coffman, which makes it very narrow and difficult to traverse. Making it
narrower is not an option. This needs to be stopp!
ed. 5. Finally how do I get my name on this petition? I live on Tara Hill and have yet to see it.
05- All City Council Members: True
06. Have someone call me: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07. Name: Jonathan & Tina Wray
09. Address: 5423 Tara Hill Dr.
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
11. Daytime Phone: 614 - 336 -9063
12. E -mail: thewrays @mindspring
submit: Submit
From: < aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
To: <aclarke @dublin. oh. us>
Date: 10/3/02 8:58PM
Subject: Contact City Council Form
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(aclarke @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 20:52:38
01. Date: Oct. 3, 2002
02. Time: 8:45PM
03. Topic: Tara Hill traffic
04. Comments: I am a 10 year resident of Hemingway. I love this neighborhood, but the traffic on Tara Hill
seems only to be a concern to we the residents, and not to our city leaders. I am appalled that rather than
curbing our street's use by through traffic, the city is now ready to close off Post Road, leaving Tara Hill as
a main through street. This choice will not just anger we homeowners, it will endanger residents, and it
will, in my opinion, cause the demise of this part of a lovely neighborhood. I urge you to look into ways to
curb the use of this residential street with brick mounds like those on Monterey, and consider ways to
make Post Road a more usable through street.
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Have someone call me: True
O6. Respond by e -mail: True
07. Name: Nancy Twynham
09. Address: 5627 Tara Hill Dr.
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin ,OH
11. Daytime Phone: 718 -8933
12. E -mail: rtwynham @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moo - Cof Park Expansion Task Force Pag 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @ dub] in.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/21/02 6:44AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 21, 2002 at 06:34:12
01. Suggestions: Do not close Post Road!!!
02. Name: Matt Holman
03. Address: 5390 Tara Hill Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: mholman2 @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tam[ Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Forc Pa ge 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/22/02 1:16PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 13:05:37
01. Suggestions: Possible interconnect of bike trails to Heritage Rails Trails and new Glacier ridge metro
park. Making it a central hub with constant use /activity.
A similar design to Homestead Park would be nice. I've heard nothing but compliments regarding how
well designed Homestead park is. They have a variety of activities close to one another and within
walking distance of each other.
02. Name: Chris Conerby
03. Address: 7813 Kate Brown Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Oh 43017
05. E -mail: chris @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami M oore - Cof fman Park Expansion Task Force Pag 1
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/22/02 5:04PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 16:54:24
01. Suggestions: It is absurd to close Post Road to through traffic. Tara Hill, a highly dense residential
area carries too much traffic as it is- -close Post and there will be even more. Right now, absurdity is
having no left turn to Post from southbound Avery/Muirfield Drive. I know people cut from Muirfield to
Emerald Parkway using Tara Hill. They speed down the street and ignore or roll through stop signs. As a
resident of Scribner who must stop at a 4 -way on Earnest Way, I observe that almost every time I
approach the intersection. It is not fair to property owners in the subdivisions to allow Tara Hill to carry all
the through traffic. It is just unconscionable. Post Road can much better handle traffic - -just look at the
setbacks! Closing Post Road smells very political.
02. Name: Linda Whiting
03. Address: 7039 Scribner Way
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: (whiting @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffm Park Expansion Tas Force Pagel
From:
<tmoore @ dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/22/02 7:57PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 19:47:00
01, Suggestions: NO NEW BUILDINGS!!!
We have taken the land from the animals /birds ...I would like to take the proposed Coffman park and
repalce it with the natural habitate of the area and encourage animals to return.... especially
birds... wetlands and grasses with an education center would be wonderful!! We have enough bike trails
and paths to walk .... lets give back to NATURE. Work with OSU, Scotts and Honda to develop an area that
all species can enjoy.
02. Name: Pamela Jones -Morton
03. Address: 7618 Caspersan Ct
04. City /State /Zip: 43017
05. E -mail: pjonesmorton @collumbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
IM iil
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/22/02 11:30 P M
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 23:19:38
01. Suggestions: water park
bike trails
02. Name: Jennifer Deaton
03. Address: 6291 Wynford Drive
04. City /State /Zip: 43016
05. E -mail: jdeaton @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman P ark Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/23/02 9:OOAM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @ dub] in.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 08:49:54
01. Suggestions: My family would like to see backstop walls for practicing tennis alone. We used to have
them where I grew up and they were used all the time. The set -up is typically a flat wall with sides that are
only about half as high as the front wall, and a chain link fence opposite the front wall to catch balls that
get through. They can be fully enclosed or open at the back sides, put back to back or in a straight line:
or
1
1
1
02. Name: Mike Jenkins
03. Address: 5588 Caplestone Lane
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: mjenkins @pontisgroup.com
submit: Submit
Tami Mo ore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/23/02 9:19AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 09:08:17
01. Suggestions: I would like to suggest a garden area that would be maintained by residents (senior
citizens, possibly). I used to live in Libertyville, II where they had a rose garden that was really spectacular.
It was nice to walk around the garden with the family and visitors. It was maintained by the city's gardening
committee (volunteers). It would be nice to have a garden area with specimens of unique plants and trees.
02. Name: Christine Bruening
03. Address: 7430 Athy Ct.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: c_bruening @yahoo.com
submit: Submit
Tami Mo ore - Coffman Park Expan Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/23/02 9:44AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 09:33:08
01. Suggestions: Frisbee Golf course
Baseball diamond
Bike trails
02. Name: Ralph LeVan
03. Address: 6855 Conquistador Ct.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: levan @ocic.org
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Pagel
From: <tmoore @dublin. oh. us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/23/02 9:54AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 08:39:00
01. Suggestions: Must be next to river /pond
Wetlands
Playground
Nature Center
Braai / picnic areas
02. Name: Belinda
03. Address: Toerien Street 39 / Vanderbijlpark
04. City /State /Zip: Gauteng, South Africa
05. E -mail: apri11407 @yahoo.com
submit: Submit
Tami M oore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/23/02 10:56A M
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 10:46:09
01. Suggestions: I don't believe that either a petting zoo or a water park is consistent with green space. I
am also concerned about the suggestion to close Post Rd without addressing the traffic and speeding on
Tara Hill Dr.
02. Name: Doug Kennedy
03. Address: 5658 Tara Hill Dr
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: dkennedy @ralaw.com
submit: Submit
J_Tami Moor - e - Coffman Park Expa I nsion Task I F I o I rc I e 1-11 Page 1
From: dmoore@dub|inuh.usn
To: <tmooro@dub|inuh.vo,'<fhahn@dub|inuhua,
umme; 10/23/024:21PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below iy the result of your feedback form, h was submitted by
(tmoor*@dub|inuh,uo'fhahn@dub/inuh4u)nn Wednesday, October 23,20O2ut10:1V:30
01. Suggestions: A water park and a bike trail.
O1. Name: noiohao|onnatoo
03. Address: 2O20fra|eydr
04 .Citv/Sta1o/Zip:oo|unobuaohio43235
05.E'noai|: buff x|oeo445@uv|.ounn
submit: Submit
Tami Moore_ Coffman Park Expansion Task Force _ _ _ _ Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/23/02 5:42PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 17:31:46
01. Suggestions: LEAVE IT ALONE!
I live on Tara Hill and will not stand for closing Post Rd.
Wetlands are a bad idea due to West Nile.
We have enough bike trails.
Basketball and Tennis courts will be managed as badly as the skate park resulting more vandalism and
noise.
We have a first rate zoo already. A petting zoo is a stupid idea that would include the cost of wildlife
experts and animal care.
I have written you before with no response and expect this will fall on deaf ears as well.
I will vote against council members approving an increase in taxes or closing of Post Rd. This is tax and
spend government.
02. Name: Jonathan Wray
03, Address: 5423 Tara Hill Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: thewrays @mindspring.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman
From: <tmnnoo@dub|in.nhuu/
|n: <tmuono@dub|inuhuo>'.fhuhn@dub|inuh.un>
Date: 10/14/029:50A0Y
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below io the result of your feedback form. |t was submitted by
(tnn000a@dub|inuh.uo'fhahn@dob|inohuo) on Thursday, October 24.2O02aKV9:45:37
01. Suggestions: wetlands, natural areas, bike paths, hiking paths, 18 hole disc golf course; prairie
reclamation area
02. Name: Beth Marsh
O3. Address: 0855 Conquistador [X.
04.City/8ta1o/Zip:Dublin
05.E'rooi(:murnh@uo|unobun.rcovno
submit: Submit
Tam, Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Tas F orce Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/24/02 7:43PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 19:32:19
01. Suggestions: Bike Trails - through the park connecting to existing trails
Water Park Similar to Homestead park
playgrounds
02. Name: Bob VanVliet
03. Address: 7124 Starkeys Court
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: bvanvliet @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - C offman Park Expansion Task Force
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From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/24/02 7:50PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 19:38:47
01. Suggestions: Basketball Courts!! There are not enough courts around. The rec center is too
crowded! They would get year -round use as opposed to some of the other ideas.
02. Name: Evan Weese
03. Address: 5186 Forest Run Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Oh 43017
05. E -mail: dublinhoops @wideopenwest.com
submit: Submit
Tam Moore - Coffman Park E xpansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/24/02 8:09PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 19:58:30
01. Suggestions: I think that you should put in basketball courts, and have paths for people to bike,
rollarblade, run..... I think that some of the paths should go throught the woods, or down by a creak or
stream or something like that. It would also be cool if there was a water park.
02. Name: Beth
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: n/a
submit: Submit
�_..
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/24/02 9:01 PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 20:49:48
01. Suggestions: Why would you consider doing anything to that park? Leave it alone, please. It currently
has wonderful basketball and tennis courts that are never too crowded, plenty of playground space and
equipment and lovely passive parkland.
Furthermore, hundreds of property values along Terra Hill Drive and within Shannon Village are potentially
going to decrease if closing Post Road leads to increased traffic flow along Coffman Road and Terra Hill.
How would the task force feel if it was their property values that are affected?
Leave the park alone. Please.
02. Name: Jerry Emig
03. Address: 6813 Valley Down
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: JEmigBYRD @aol.com
submit: Submit
- -
Tami Moore - Coffman _ P ark Expansion Task F orc e _ _ _ Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/25/02 10:15A M
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, October 25, 2002 at 10:03:47
01. Suggestions: As a resident of the Coffman park area, I would like to see only passive parkland. It
could include bike trails, nature center, wetlands. Above all, I do not want more traffic on Post or Tara Hill
roads. If there is a parking lot, it should be small. No petting zoo, water park, etc, please.
02. Name: Debra Brinker
03. Address: 6217 Arapahoe
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: j22snu @earthlink.net
submit: Submit
Tam! Moor - Coffman P Expansion T ask Force Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/25/02 10:05 P M
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, October 25, 2002 at 21:53:53
01. Suggestions: I would like to see this area stay as natural as possible, protecting the stream by not
establishing any new facilities.
Leave it green.
Please don't take any action that will increase Tara Hill traffic!
02. Name: Patrick Enright
03. Address: 5830 Tara Hill Dr,
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OR 43017
05. E -mail: pjright @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffm Park Expansion Task Fo Page 1
From:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/26/02 10:18A M
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 10:06:17
01. Suggestions: Petting Zoo
02. Name: Ashley Fenton
03. Address: 7140 SchoolCraft Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin Oh, 43017
05. E -mail: peggyfenton @yahoo.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/27/02 11:29A M
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 11:17:03
01. Suggestions: I do NOT want Post Road closed! It would greatly increase traffic on Sells Mills Road
which is much more residential than Post Road. This would cause a danger to the children along Sells
Mills.
02. Name: Bill Warman
03. Address: 6829 Fallen Timbers Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: bwerman @earth link. net
submit: Submit
Tami Mo ore - C offman Park E Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/28/02 8:05AM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 07:52:52
01. Suggestions: Why cut off one of the few east -west roads in the city. Coffman is already a large park. If
you don't want traffic for the Irish Fest, close the road those three days.
It is very idealistic that the Municipal Building be the focal point of a park. One has a business function and
one a relaxation /activity function. The two do not have to be together.
02. Name: Chris Brown
03. Address: 4428 Limerick Lane
04. City /State /zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: cbrown6 @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/28/02 10:18AM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 10:05:06
01. Suggestions: Please don't close Post Road! If Post Rd. closes there would be an increase in the
number of cars that already use Tara Hill, many at speeds far greater than the posted 25 mph. The
increased number of cars and the high speed of much of the traffic would make it even more difficult for
children who attend Scottish Corners Elementary school to try to cross the street. As a mother of three
elementary school children, I ask you to please keep Post Rd. open so that traffic will not be diverted to
Tara Hill and our children's safety will be considered. Thank you.
02. Name: Mara -Kaye Knapp
03. Address: 6963 Beery Ln.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: kvhdvms @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffm Park Expansion Ta sk Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/28/02 2:46PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 14:34:13
01. Suggestions: With the new Metropark in our area and the zoo so close, it may be a waste of funds to
recreate what can be found at other nearby locations (e.g. a petting zoo or nature center). I know
Coffman Park already has tennis courts and playground - -I think these are important features that need to
remain (they may even need to be expanded a bit). A basketball court would be nice if there isn't one
now. It would be great to see these courts used for summer /after school teams (perhaps they are
already). I like that Coffman offers young adults a place to hang out together with the
skateboard /rollerblade area (some day maybe Dublin will be able to make improvements to that area) so I
would like to see attractions remain for kids in this age group (even if those areas require a little extra
supervision). A small water park (even if only a fountain similar to the one near Ballantrae) would offer an
inexpensive option to Wyandot Lake for local residents with young chi
ildren. Dublin already has lots of lovely bike trails, but they are along busy, unlit roads in my area. I have
no access to sidewalks, so I would really enjoy well -lit trails for walking in Coffman Park (even if it's only a
single loop around the park). I'm excited about this expansion - -it would mean more room for the Irish
Festival and space for other similar events.
02. Name: Michele Lowe
03. Address: 10741 Dublin Rd
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: mlowe @cml.lib.oh.us
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force P age 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/28/02 1:55PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 13:43:17
01. Suggestions: Dublin has a vast collection of parks. Each with something of it's own to offer. I am
concerned with the mention of Wetlands, Petting Zoo and a Water Park. These are already available to
Dublin residents within 5 to 10 minutes from our home. The increase tax cost for pest control, animal
maintenance and employee salaries are not needed. I believe our money to go to better use.
Another concern I have is the potential closing of Post Road. That is the main entrance for the Recreation
Center and Coffman Park. The closure of this road will cause a significant increase in traffic in the
residential areas behind the recreation center. I saw the "report" of increased traffic on Tara Hill and I can
say that report was incorrect. Post Road has closed for certain events and have caused a significant
amount of concern within the neighborhoods. This road should not be closed.
02. Name: Rebecca Plaster
03. Address: 7105 Shady Nelms Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: beckyplaster @yahoo.com
submit: Submit
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From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/28/02 3:30PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 15:17:36
01. Suggestions: I believe that the City of Dublin could make an enormous difference in the lives of many
disabled AND able bodied children and their parents with the construction of a truely "accessible"
playground on the grounds of Coffman Park. Children of ALL abilities need to have the opportunity to play
side by side. There is a HUGE need in Dublin to have a playground that will exceed ADA standards.
"Accessible" to most only means a ramp is needed to gain access. I have found just by being "accessible"
does not always mean an area is functional. 1 in 10 children have some type of disability. < 10% are able
to leave their support equipment(i.e. wheelchair, etc.) to freely PLAY or utilize the equipment. My daughter
Madison has a neuromuscular disease that affects all voluntary muscles that control sitting, walking,
swallowing and breathing. Her intelligence is NOT affected. She is in kindergarten at Scottish Corners
Elementary school. The newly constructed "handicapped a!
ccessible" kindergarten playground equipment at Scottish Corners Elementary school is a great
example. The students may have 10 minutes for recess. There is a concrete ramp from the classroom out
to the play area. It is very difficult from there to push a wheelchair through the mulch. It is impossible for
the other children to be able to even just push her around the area to play tag or hide and seek. By the
time she gets to an area with equipment it is time to go back inside. The largest piece of equipment has a
ramp that will take Madison up to the first play level. From there though she cannot reach any of the
activity boards
from her wheelchair. She would have to be lifted and carried to access those AND to get up to the next
level. Also in this area are swings and a merry-go -round type piece which only accomodate able bodied
children. With the right seating support and /or adaptations for wheelchairs both areas could be enjoyed
by ALL children. It is every child's wish to play along with other children to the best of their ability- to a
disabled child that wish is not always possible! I would like to refer you to 2 websites for more information:
www.boundlessplaygrounds.org and www.prestonshope.com . The actual possibilities are endless as
you may take note from the second website but even a simple playground done right could extend and
improve the quality of life for all ages. Thank you for your consideration and providing this opportunity for
input!
02. Name: Annette Reed
03. Address: 6166 Enke Ct.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin /Ohio/43017
05. E -mail: reed.199 @osu.edu
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/28/02 3:36PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dub ]in.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 15:23:38
01. Suggestions: I am a special education teacher for Dublin Schools, though not a resident.
A playground that is not only accessible but also welcomes, interests and fosters social development
between all children regardless of ability or disability would be a wonderful addition to our community.
02. Name: Ann Loehrer
03. Address: 144 W. Bridge Street
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: loehrer_ann@ msmail.dublin.kl2.oh.us
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffma Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/28/02 3:53PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 15:40:58
01. Suggestions: The purpose of any park is to improve the quality of life. Any proposal that require
closure of Post Road is doing just an opposite. The Tara Hill neighborhood will be greatly and negatively
impacted, and the properties values will decrease. The decision to close the road throughout relatively
undeveloped area and increase the traffic on the residential street is poorly based and show serious
disregard for the community needs.
02. Name: Tatyana Arsh
03. Address: 6983 Raymond Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: to @smoc.cmhmetro.net
submit: Submit
Ta mi Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/28/02 7:55PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 19:43:02
01. Suggestions: What about covered or indoor tennis courts where the community could play year round?
Just a thought!
02. Name: Laurie Good
03. Address: 5727 Desmond Court
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: good1s @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
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From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/28/02 9:42PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 21:29:33
01. Suggestions: As a neighbor of Coffman Park,we feel it is in the best interst of us to leave
greenspace. We our barely tolerating all the traffic, lighting & noise polluation Dublin has created in this
area now. Needless to say we would really love to see some greenspace or wetlands to balance out all
other problems surrounding our homes. P.S. My sump pump can verify there is plenty of wet in the
area. I hope my suggesting can be of help. Thank you I
02. Name: Carol Jurasek
03. Address: 5677 Tara Hill Dr
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: Jurase @attglobal.net
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 1:17PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dubIin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 13:04:38
01. Suggestions: Since I live next door to the park, I would like to see bike trails and wetlands. I am totally
against a petting zoo - the potential noise and smells would be offensive. Besides, there is enough
vandalism in Dublin I would hate to see what might happen to a petting zoo. Also, if there is going to be
basketball courts and other sports /playground areas, I would like to have more buffering (such as trees)
along the south side of the Shannon Park Village homes to reduce the noise factor.
02. Name: Gail Render
03, Address: 5343 McGinty Court
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: rrendar @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
�Tami Moore Coffman Park E xpansion Task Force P age 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/29/02 2:58PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 14:45:43
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01. Suggestions: I received a letter stating that there is a Coffman Task Force meeting to be held on
Tuesday, October 29th and one topic will be Coffman Park and the potential closure of Post Road. Being
a long time resident of Dublin, specifically on Tara Hill Drive, I am trying to understand fully the rationale
behind the closure of Post Road and the impact it will have on Tara Hill Drive.
Recently I read a newspaper article regarding the traffic study that was completed for the City of Dublin by
an outside organization to study what the impacts would be on Tara Hill Drive if Post Road were to be
closed. In this article it stated that the study determined that there would be an increase to the traffic on
Tara Hill Drive if Post Road were closed. If the Coffman Task Force is not going to take into account
what the outcome of the traffic study was, then why was it requested and paid for in the first place.
I have resided on Tara Hill Drive for 13 years and have watched traffic increase as people cut through the
residential area. I have seen speeding, passing, had items stolen from my property, trash being thrown
from cars, etc. Speeding occurs especially when driving from Coffman Road to Muirfield Drive once an
individual stops at the third stop sign. Since we were told that no additional stop signs could be added to
Tara Hill and that speed bumps were not permitted, it is then clear sailing to Muirfield Drive. I have seen
passing of cars on Tara Hill, especially when another car is simply following the 25 mph speed limit. This
is especially troubling when it is a school bus being passed when their red lights are on by individuals who
are in a hurry traveling down Tara Hill Drive. Having school age children even makes this more
concerning, and you want to add even more traffic! Yes, the Dublin Police have made an effort to slow
cars down, but that never lasts.
In the Mission Statement for the City of Dublin it states that the city will & #8220;strive to preserve and
enhance the unique high quality of life offered to those who live or work in our community ... & #8220; By
closing Post Road you are not enhancing the quality of life in the City of Dublin for any resident of Tara Hill
Drive; you simply are encouraging me to families to move to a community that cares and listens more to
the needs of their residents.
02. Name: Shari Cappuzzello
03. Address: 5827 Tara Hill Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: kermibug @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffm Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 4:13PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 16:00:14
01. Suggestions: Bike trails, basketball and tennis courts and playground are enough to maintain.
The closing of any portion of Post Rd. is one of the most ridiculous plans imaginable. What does Dublin
have against thru streets such as Post and Perimeter? You have closed Wilcox and Ring.
02. Name: Janice A. Manring
03. Address: 5947 Dunabbey Loop
04. City /State /Zip: Dunblin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: jmanring @Columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Ta Forc Page 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 4:23PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 16:10:33
01. Suggestions: There are so many wonderful things about Dublin. In 1999, we began a search to leave
Atlanta, GA. We were not looking for a job; we were looking for a home to raise our children. We had
several criteria for cities, which included controlled development, strong city schools, and well developed
parkland.
While a water park is intriguing, but I would have reservations. I would want it to have membership
requirements such that only members of the Municipal Pool or Recreation Center would be able to use it. I
would not want the production to become an open facility for young social rebels who inhabit the skate
park. The skate park is ill conceived and a mistake that more than doubled the original budget to build.
Vandalism and under -age drinking and smoking are among the untoward activities that have occurred
without the deterrent of supervising authorities, and that has negatively affected the character of our
community. Broken glass in the nearby kids/E playground has put our little ones at risk when they were
not before. It will cost us more if we ever decide to properly supervise the park and monitor the activities.
A Nature Center and Wetlands would be interesting, but it would be important to me that the city maintains
control of the land. Wetlands may be a tempting target for which a federal agency may want eventually to
want to direct.
Overall, I would prefer to see the additional playgrounds, bike trails, tennis courts, basketball courts, or
some other form of low maintenance features that encourage physical activity. Perhaps another Disc Golf
course that is more central to the city. Such activities allow our citizens to enjoy Dublin/Es natural beauty.
That is my 2 cents. Thank you
02. Name: Jon Heath
03. Address: 5357 Adventure Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: jheath @campheato.com
submit: Submit
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From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 7:55PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 19:42:36
01. Suggestions: Do not introduce more traffic onto Tara Hill drive.
Do not shutdown Post road. Post should be widened. Left turns headed south off Avery/Muirfield
onto Post should be allowed so that west Dublin traffic currently using Tara Hill to go to the Rec Center
can instead use (the less residential) Post Rd.
Put speed bumps in on Tara Hill so that it becomes a residential street again instead of a major route to
Emerald Parkway and the Rec Center.
Enforce the 25 MPH speed limit on Tara Hill.
Pay more attention to the numerous citizens on Tara Hill instead of the few on Post.
Do not introduce more traffic on Tara Hill drive.
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Par Expansion Task Force — Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 6:23PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 18:10:06
01. Suggestions: Do Close Post Road!
At any given traffic signal cycle, It has at least two to four vehicles going through Post Road. This does not
include the Vehicles turning on to Post Road from Emerald Parkway. If we just count 12 hours, not 24
hours, the estimated vehicle driving on Post Road is at least 1500. If Post Road if closed, 1 do not know
how many of them would be routed to Tara Hill. I am sure I will be one of them to use Tara Hill (four times
a day) if Post Road is closed.
02. Name: Chuyun Wu
03. Address: 6158 Avocet Ct.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Cof fman Park Expansion Task Force Pag 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/29/02 4:54PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 16:41:19
01. Suggestions: After living near the park for 20+ years, it is difficult to decide between pavement, ferns
wheel and merry-go -round vs. nice green grass. Let's put it to a vote - -duh.
02. Name: Peter Hoy
03. Address: 5304 Erin Isles Court
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
submit: Submit
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From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/30/02 9:04AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 08:50:38
01. Suggestions: We regret the use of the word "closure" when referring to the realignment of Post Road
at the present intersection of Emerald Parkway. We can understand the alarm this conveys to the
residents on Tara Hill. In future discussion of this element of the park development, would you please
consider rewording this reference to the change of Post Road?
At the Oct. 29 meeting Mr. Clear gave a very well studied and analyzied projection of the expected effect
that the realignment of Post Road would have on Tara Hill traffic. The opening of the new high school on
Hyland -Croy promises to be a prominent factor in actually reducing the traffic on Tara Hill. His other
projections based on principles of traffic flow should be taken seriously. The improvements on Perimeter
Drive would make it a much more desirable route to the west compared to a residential street with low
speed limit and traffic calming devices.
The desirability of having an uninterrupted campus for the civic buildings and activities would seem to
override the inconveniences that both Post Road and Tara Hill residents can expect from a change in the
traffic pattern.
It seems that having a row of residences along the north side of Post Road would be an advantage to the
"feel" of the parkland west of the Rec. Center. It makes it a truly passive park with a neighborhood
atmosphere.
We commend the Task Force and the city on the work that is going into this project. We feel confident
that the final decision will be a good one for not only the image of Dublin but also for the families who are
so closely and unavoidably affected.
Bill and Edith Driscoll
6230 Post Road
02. Name: Bill and Edith Driscoll
03. Address: 6230 Post Road
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: wfdl8 @juno.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/30/02 9:19AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 09:05:37
01. Suggestions: More thoughts about traffic associated with the closing of Post Road at Emerald
Parkway for the expanded Coffman Park.
Tara Hill: They have legitimate traffic concerns. There is a lot that can be done, particularly on the western
end toward Avery, to slow traffic with speed bumps and stop signs. The volume is decided by the street's
role as a conduit for a large neighborhood.
Post Road: There is quite a lot of through traffic which would have to go somewhere if the eastern end of
Post at Emerald were closed off with a diversion via Commerce. Presumably this should be Perimeter
Drive. We, on Post near Avery, are very grateful for the consideration being shown our area. We do need
to have copies of the traffic options being proposed, so we can see in detail the impacts. Detailed
measurements are needed for the preferred options to see how much property might be needed from
each owner.
Perimeter Drive: This road was supposed to be the major E -W conduit. Poor design with decorative but
impractical curves and lots of resulting blind intersections (esp. Wilcox and Perimeter) make this an
unattractive through road. This road needs a complete upgrade throughout its length to make the present
plans for the expanded Coffman Park the success we all desire.
02. Name: David Bromwich
03. Address: 6300 Post Road
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin OH 43017
05. E -mail: bromwich.1 @osu.edu
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expan sion Task Force Page 1
From:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
10/30/02 11:02 A M
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 11:04:21
01. Suggestions: Water Park
Nature Center
Bike Trails
Petting Zoo
Already have a few playgrounds,tennis courts and basketball courts at Coffman Park. Add new nature
type elements.
A plea to City Council - especially Amy Salay, my council representative.
Please follow the adopted Coffman Park Plan. The City of Dublin spent many tax dollars and much time
and effort to map out the future of Coffman Park in this plan. The current City Council needs to bring
themselves up to speed on this important document. Please do your homework and read the entire
document for a better understanding of where Dublin City Council wanted to be for the future. A few Post
Road residents should not be driving the train on a plan that was well investigated, well thought out, well
received and well written and adopted by Dublin City Coucil in 1997. We Tara Hill residents are not
happy with the Post Road residents trying to dictate future plans for Coffman Park and the traffic patterns
in Dublin. Post Road residents were well aware that they were purchasing land that was mixed with both
commercial and residential housing /property. When The City of Dublin took away the left hand turn onto
Post Road from Avery/Muir - held, that angered many Dublin re!
sidents. Now you are trying to divert all Post Road traffic to Tara Hill Drive, which is a friendly, young family
neighborhood with an overabundance of small children. When will this end? Does it take a small child
being killed by oncoming traffic for everyone to wake up? There are many more voters on Tara Hill than
Post Road. If our concerns aren't taken into consideration, we will speak out in the voting booth. You are
forcing Tara Hill Drive to be like High Street in Columbus. It is hard enough to even back out of our
driveways each day. This closing off of Post Road will make Tara Hill not only a very dangerous street to
navigate, but will bring additional cut through traffic to the Dublin Community Recreation Center, which
doesn't need any more cut through traffic due to the nature of the building being family friendly. Please
take into consideration the fact that there are many more Tara Hill Drive residents than Post Road
residents, in addition to all of the cut !
de sac and side street residents off of Tara Hill Drive who wilt
I be adversely affected by this ill thought out plan to totally close off Post Road. If Post Road residents
want a closed road, then they should have moved to a gated community. Keep the addition) traffic off of
Tara Hill Drive. It is already a daily nightmare trying to get in and out of your driveway every day, in
addition to the increased traffic brought to Tara Hill Drive from previous decisions, like no left turn onto
Post Road from Avery/Muirfield Drive. Rethink your decisions before you vote on a final plan. We Tara
Hill Drive residents will be watching all of your votes. I'm sure you wouldn't like this type of situation on the
street where you live. Empathize with us for once. Our houses are much closer to the street than Post
Road and our population of small children are larger in numbers. I appreciate your consideration of the
problems impacting Tara Hill Drive residents.
02. Name: John Burkholder
03. Address: 5813 Tara Hill Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: burknbarb @yahoo.com
submit: Submit
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From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/30/02 3:12PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 15:13:42
01. Suggestions: I would like to see tennis courts and a basketball court at the new park on summitview
rd.
submit: Submit
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From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/30/02 7:45PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 19:46:30
01. Suggestions: The city could use more bike trails and tennis courts. A nature center and petting zoo at
an old working farm would be nice too.
I do not live on Post Rd., but own two properties there. I do support the closing of Post Rd. and like the
medians, traffic circle and landscaping that has been proposed.
02. Name: David Ulstad
03. Address: 5556 Caplestone Lane
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: dculstad @aol.com
submit: Submit
Office of the City Manager
5200 Emerald Parkway • Dublin, OH 43017
Phone: 614- 410 -4400 • Fax: 614 - 410 -4490
CITY OF DUBLIN
To: Members of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
From: Jane S. Brautigam, City Manager �Pp
Date: October 30, 2002
Re: Citizen Input
On October 30, 2002, I spoke with Janice McCormack, a Dublin resident who was unable to attend the October 29,
2002 meeting of the Coffman Park Expansion Task Force. She asked that I convey to the Task Force her concern with
the negative impact that the possible closing of Post Road will have on the traffic on Tara Hill Drive. She was
particularly concerned with the volume of traffic on that road.
Memo
I provided her with information about the traffic calming measures which Council has asked staff to investigate and
also encouraged her to visit the City's website to make additional comments concerning the park.
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/31 /02 7:23PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 19:24:29
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01. Suggestions: I am primarity concerned about the increase of traffic on Tara Hill if you close Post Road,
even partially close it. No matter what anybody says, people WILL cut down Tara Hill from Muirfield to get
to Emerald Pkwy if Post Road becomes too cumbersome to use. Tara Hill residents have already been
seeking to reduce traffic on our street before the Coffman Park plans came up. This new idea will only
make matters worse. I don't think enough consideration is being given to the quality of life of the MANY
Tara Hill Residents.
I am totally against a water park, it will really start bringing in the traffic and riff raff. If you are going to
make additions to the park, keep it simple and small and peaceful so we can maintain a quiet
neighborhood.
Please make sure you are doing a complete traffic study for the entire area. An idea to improve Tara Hill's
traffic is to add more entrances /exits to Coffman High school along Emerald Pkwy. The students need
more parking anyway and there is plenty of land which looks like it could be used for such.
Thank you for giving this matter careful consideration
02. Name: Janice McCormick
03. Address: 5854 Tara Hill Drive
05. E -mail: mccomom @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffm Park Expansion Task Force P age 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 10/31/02 5:27PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 17:28:24
01. Suggestions: Parking for City events needs to be addressed. We hesitate to attend events for that
reason. We also frequently use the indoor pool which has become very crowded (its actually not available
most evenings due to swim lessons). Another indoor leisure pool will be needed very soon as Dublin
continues to expand (too much high density growth for our liking!!!!)
02. Name: Don Armstrong
03. Address: 7672 Brandbury Place
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: dsarmstrong @aep.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffm Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
11/1/02 1:01 PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 13:01:47
01. Suggestions: Thanks for taking input! I have a suggestion. How about a dog & owner park area like
some hip cities have? It's a fenced area where owners take their dogs to mingle lease -free. The park
could have doggy bag stands and stone water bowls. I have heard that dog owners love these parks and I
don't even own a dog!
02. Name: Betsy Cutie
03. Address: 6586 Deeside Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH, 43017
05. E -mail: ecutie @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moor - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force P age 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/1/02 1:03PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 13:04:04
01. Suggestions: Another park idea: I love the idea of a water -based park. With a large splash fountain
that kids can run though (like Easton Mall) and maybe a playground with working water squirt guns in
turrets (like Hilliard has).
02. Name: Betsy Cutie
03. Address: 6586 Deeside Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH, 43017
05. E -mail: ecutie @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
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Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expan Task Force Page 1
From:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
11/1/02 1:08PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 13:09:29
01, Suggestions: One morepark idea: I grew up in Royal Oak, Michigan where in the 1970s they had an
outdoor park with a working kiddie train. Approx. 10 cars pulled by an engine driven by a park employee
(conductor) on a track that weaved through the park. It ran set days /hours and was a huge hit with kids
and parents.
02. Name: Betsy Cutie
03. Address: 6586 Deeside Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH, 43017
05. E -mail: ecutie @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: < tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/1/02 1:11 PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Friday, November 1, 2002 at 13:12:00
01. Suggestions: Just One more idea: If you decide on a nature trail, it would be very interesting to have
little signs near the plants and trees identifying the genus, species, common name etc. of the plant.
02. Name: Betsy Cutie
03. Address: 6586 Deeside Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH, 43017
O5. E -mail: ecutie @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moo - Coff Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
11/3/02 10:52PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 22:51:37
-- -------- ----------- ------ - ----- -----------------------------------
01. Suggestions: Bike Trails - of course
Wetlands - why not
Nature Center - if not expensive to maintain
Petting Zoo - please NO! The third best zoo in the country is just up the road. Don't waste my money on
this!
Water Park - Yes. But not also at Balentre.
Basketball Courts - why not
Tennis Courts - sure
Playground - yes, and make it substantial.
Finally - add a small beginners section to the skate park. Just some simple little rollers.
By the way. I personally make at least 8 trips per week on Tara Hill to get to head east on Emerald
Parkway because I can't turn left on Post Road and Perimeter Drive is too winding and indirect. I am
willing to bet the drivers on my street alone would account for more through traffic on Tara Hill than
estimated by your traffic consultant. Please hire a COMPETENT consultant to measure the impact of
closing Post Road on Tara Hill traffic and conduct a VALID traffic study. When you are finished, please
explain to me again why homeowners on Post Road are being protected at a cost to Tara Hill
homeowners.
Please leave Post Road open. If necessary, construct tunnels under Post Road (like the tunnel at the
Zoo) to connect parts of the park to the south of Post.
02. Name: Dave Stafford
03. Address: 5901 Brigids Close Dr
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Oh 43017 -3421
05. E -mail: dstafford @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
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To:
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Date:
11/4/028:42PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
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(tmoore@dub|inuhuu on Monday, November 4
V1. Suggestions: Bike Trails, Wetlands and a nature center. Definitely not a water park.
02. Name: T. Burt Dowdon
V3. Address: O278VVvnfordDrive
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task For'ce'
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From:
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To:
<tnovvoa@dub|in.oh.vs/.<(huhn@dub|in»huu>
Date:
11/5/0211:42AM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
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(tn000re@dub|in.ohuo.fhahn@dub|in.nhuo)on Tuesday, November 5,2002a111:41:21
U1. Suggestions: | would like to see Post Road remain. |n addition, a left turn lane should be added k>
south-bound Avery onto Post. Rd.
V2. Name: Brad EXopp*nhuAon
O3. Address: 6381Con|o1hCircle
04.Chy/Stute/Zip: Dublin, {}H43017
05.[-coxi|:b/ad.n1opponhugan@ot(d(o.conn
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From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn@dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/6/02 5:35PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, November 6, 2002 at 17:33:53
01. Suggestions: Water Park
Wetlands
Ice Rink - Winter Season
Playground
02. Name: Drew Shook
03. Address: 5818 Rushwood Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: 43017
05. E -mail: Ishook @columbus,rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
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To: ^1n0000a@dub|in.nhuo>.<fhahn@dub|inohuu>
Date: 11/7/028:49AyW
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below iu the result (d your feedback form. h was submitted by
(tnoonrn@dub|in.ohuo'fhxhn@dub|inuhuo) on Thursday, November 7
O1. Suggestions: Leave the park ao green and open oopossible. Our children and oomnounhva|roudv
km/oove�/indu|goncouvui|ab|othonoghnohoo|andrnunioipo|r000ur000. Also, vvhvnot dou� test clo
of Post Rd. with temporary "road closed" barriers to study the impact on Tara Hill and other nearby roads?
V2. Name: Sue Hoidke
08. Address: 5093Uonlore[l.
O4.Qiu/Sta8o/Zip: Dublin DH43017
05.E'noai|:ohuid|o@noon.00m
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expan Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/17/02 1:36PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 13:31:27
01. Suggestions: water park and party houses
submit: Submit
Ta mi Moore - Coffman Par Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/17/02 6:06PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 17:03:38
01. Suggestions: horse trails, forests,picnic center, wildlife center, horse barn and trail rides on horses,
midnight hay rides
02. Name: Amy Chadwell
03. Address: 9940 Hyland Croy Rd
04. City /State /Zip: Plain City, OH 43064 -9088
05. E -mail: gmscheer28 @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Pagel
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/9/02 5:57PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Saturday, November 9, 2002 at 17:55:28
01. Suggestions: Hi,
1. Build the proposed Municipal Building on the South side of Perimeter Drive.
2. Ensure that Perimeter Drive is 5 lanes from Emearald to Muirfiled.
3. Close Post Road from Emerald Parkway to the Rec Center.
4. Keep the roads to an absolute minimum within the park.
5. Develop bike paths in lieu of roadage.
6. Maintain the major entrance to the Rec Center from Post Road.
7. Either move the Maintenance Bldgs or shield them better from the creek.
8. Develop the South Branch of Indian Run Creek that currently flows through Coffman Park. The
drainage across the field south of Post that flows under post can be fed into a pond at the eastern bend of
the Indian Run Creek.
9. The creek can flow in and then out of the pond. This will ensure a much higher quality of marine life and
macroinvertebrates for study.
10. Add traffic control devices along Coffman Park Drive. With the children at the Skate Park and
increased traffic to the Rec Center due to the elimination of Post Road, traffic control will become
necessary.
11. Add traffic control at the T intersectin of Shannon Park, Gullway Bay, and Valley Down.
12. Add traffic control at the 3 stop signs of Tara Hill and perhaps a 4th stop at Fallen Timbers.
13. Ensure that the eventual landscaping and development be of a wide variety and will attract insects,
small mammals, and birds.
14. Coordinate this eventual landscaping with the Dublin Schools to connect to the curriculum to foster
more less expensive field trips to an ecological diverse site for observation and learning.
Thank you.
02. Name: Fritz Monroe
03. Address: 5349 Shannon Park Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio, 43017
05. E -mail: fmonroe@worthington.kl2.oh.us
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task'F'orce Page 1
From: <tm000p@dub|in.oh.uo/
To: 'tn0000e@duh}inohuo>,'fhxhn@dub|inuhus/
Date: 11/19/024:22Py0
Subject Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below io the result od your feedback form. k was submitted bv
(tn0000e@dub|in»h.uo.fhaho@dob|in.oh.ua) on Tuesday, November 19,2V02ok18:1O12
01. Suggestions: Nature Center
V2. Name: Ariuna
03. Address: 7120Brn8e|d Drive East
04.Cik/Stato/Zip: Dublin, (}H43010
06.E'moi|:uh|ivmo@vahoo.conl
submit: Submit
Tam; Moore - Coff Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From: <tmoore @dubIin. oh. us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/19/02 12:12PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 12:07:00
01. Suggestions: Bike trails
water park!!! or outdoor pool attached to rec center.
That's about it. We have plenty of playgrounds and nature parks, in my opinion.
02. Name: Claudia Perry-Vance
03. Address: 95 Franklin Street
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin Oh 43017
05. E -mail: cperryv @rrohio.com
submit: Submit
Tami M - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force P age 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/20/02 9:15AM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 09:09:11
01. Suggestions: Par - course (outdoor exercise stations along a walking /jogging trail)
Nature center with programming
Recycling /composting permanent working exhibit -- show Dublin residents how to compost yard waste
I think its a bad idea to close Post Road, in fact I think we need to add a left turn lane from Muirfield Drive
southbound to Post Road eastbound. Maybe we should even widen and straighten it. If it is closed I think
people along Tara Hill are going to have an even worse problem with traffic. I live west of Avery -- an area
which is growing quickly -- how do you propose all of us get to the rec center and Coffman High School if
not via Tara Hill? I would use Post Road if I could turn left(east). Also what about the offices on the
corner of Avery and Post? It is already hard to get there and many people use the Presbyterian Church
parking lot to turnaround in. DONT close Post Road!!!
02. Name: Don Pearson
03. Address: 7314 Winnipeg Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43016
05. E -mail: pearson.25 @osu.edu
submit: Submit
Tarri Moore - Oo ffman Park Expa Task Force Pa 1
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
11/20/02 5:17AM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 05:11:30
01. Suggestions: A petting zoo would be great!
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - C offman Park Expansion Task Force _ _- Pag 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 11/20/02 1:56P M
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 13:49:57
01. Suggestions: Bike /Rollerblade and Natural Walking /Hiking Trails would be great. Also, Wetlands and
a Nature /Learning center. No petting zoo, but a bird feeding area/sanctuary would be nice.
02. Name: Lesley A Strohm
03. Address: 2908 Sawdust Lane
04. City /State/Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: lastrohm @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
L Tami Mo ore - Coffman Par Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
<tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
12/1/02 1:57PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Sunday, December 1, 2002 at 13:46:52
01. Suggestions: I'd like to see wetlands,a nature center, and green space -the things a park is supposed
to be. Wyandot Lake and the Columbus Zoo are only a few miles away for amusement theme parks like a
petting zoo and water park- let's not duplicate these attractions just to be trendy. The skateboard troubles
at Coffman Park hopefully have taught the Park Board something about wiser land uses.
I also think a second opinion is needed about the Parson's traffic estimates on Tara Hill Dr. No private or
civic project I know of is based on only one engineer's assumptions. To move ahead without other input is
naive.
02. Name: Charles Kuntz
03. Address: 5711 Tara Hill Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
05. E -mail: ppkuntz @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - . Cof fman Park Expansion Task Force P age 1
From:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
12/2/02 5:29AM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, December 2, 2002 at 05:19:01
01. Suggestions: I don't want a petting zoo or a farm. THere is a petting zoo just across the river in a real
zoo, and a farm isn't a aprtk, and would likely require operating costs. I also do not at all want to see
property sold off along Post Rd. as Councilwoman Salay has proposed. Coffman Park is beautiful -- keep
extending as much as we can -- bike paths, passive recreation, and play areas for the many young
children and young families in Dublin.
02. Name: Robert Fathman
03. Address: 5805 Tarton Circle N.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: rfathman @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman P ark Expansion Task Forc _ _ Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 12/2/02 10:57PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, December 2, 2002 at 22:46:46
01. Suggestions: Closing Post Road for the expansion is a very poorly thought out idea. Tara Hill and
Roscommon Road will be severely affected. Shannon Park is filled with children and this closing will
funnel countless cars onto Tara Hill, with Roscommon Road being a cut thru to Tara Hill as it already is.
This is what people will do to travel to the Rec Center, Avery- Muirfield and Perimeter business area. We
do not need any more traffic speeding thru our neighborhood. We already live it every day when the high
school lets out(twice a day). In contrast, Post Road has few children who would be directly affected by
this issue! "Traffic calming measures" are not the solution - -they do NOTHING to reduce the volume of
cars that will appear on our streets if this option is chosen. The park can still be expanded and a
wonderful place for all to enjoy without closing Post. Pick another option, please!!
02. Name: Lorie Blaeser
03. Address: 5313 Roscommon Road
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin 43017
submit: Submit
From:
<aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<aclarke @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
12/3/02 3:52PM
Subject:
Contact City Council Form
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(aclarke @dublin.oh.us) on Tuesday, December 3, 2002 at 15:41:04
01. Date: 12/03/2003
02. Time: 3:33pm
03. Topic: Post Rd. Closing
04. Comments: My name is Richard Vanover. I live on Roscommon Rd. I have 3 beautiful girls. Today, I
received a letter about the "potential" closing of Post Rd. because of the expansion of Coffman Park. I am
greatly concerned.
While my family and I benefit tremendously because of our proximity to the park, and take advantage of
all it has to offer,ie Irish Festival, play ground, and the Rec Center, I have to agree with many of the
statements brought forth in this letter. Speeding has always and will continue to be a problem on
Roscommon Rd. If, for some unknown reason any of you are not aware of the problem, please take the
time some afternoon between 2:30 and 3:15 to experience how big of a hurry some of Dublins finest
young drivers can be to get away from the rigors of high school. It amazes me to see what these students
are learning in Drivers Education these days. 1 was never taught how to maintain control of a vehicle on
two wheels, but I can say " I've seen it done ", I live in the cul -du -sac right at the curve in Roscommon. It
can be done. To the best of my knowledge there are no fewer than 18 children between the ages of 3 and
10 that live on Roscommon Rd. I know most of these children pl!
ay along the road or on the side walks or front yards of our street. I don't want anything to happen to any of
them.
An increase in traffic on Roscommon would be inevitable, should Post Rd. close. My family and I truly
love our neighborhood, and Dublin. As a community, Dublin has so much to offer in it's quality of life.
Please try, in your hearts, to find another solution to keep it that way. Sincerely, Richard A. Vanover. I may
be reached at 791 -8519.
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07. Name: Richard Vanover
09. Address: 5378 Roscommon Rd.
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
11. Daytime Phone: 791 -8519 or cell 571 -9149
12. E -mail: rivanover @columbus.rr.com
submit: Submit
Frank Ciarochi - Post Road Co ncerns Page 1
From: Jane Brautigam
To: rivanover @columbus.rr.com
Date: 12/4/02 1:41 PM
Subject: Post Road Concerns
Dear Mr. Vanover,
Thank you for your email of December 3, 2002 to the City Council concerning Post Road.
I want to assure you that Council is very concerned about neighborhood traffic issues, especially in the
Tara Hill Drive area. As a result, Council has directed the city staff to obtain a comprehensive traffic study
of the entire area from Post Road north to Brand, between Avery/Muirfield Road and Coffman Road. This
will include Shannon Glen and all of the Tara Hill Drive neighborhoods. The study will include
opportunities for citizen input. No decisions will be made concerning Post Road until this traffic study has
been completed and reviewed by staff and Council.
Council and staff both realize that issues concerning traffic in the neighborhoods is of paramount concern
to residents. No decisions concerning Post Road will be made without additional opportunities for citizen
input. We appreciate hearing directly from you and your neighbors about these issues. Please let me
know if I can provide you with additional information.
Very truly yours,
Jane S. Brautigam
City Manager
Jane Brautigam
City Manager
City of Dublin
5200 Emerald Parkway
Dublin, OH 43017
614.410.4402
jbrautigam @dublin.oh.us
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle; Hammersmith,
Paul
Tami M opre - Fwd: Conta City Council Form Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/4/02 5:45PM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> <aclarke@dublin.oh.us> 12/04/02 04:35PM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 16:35:05
01. Date: 12/4/02
02. Time: 4:28 p.m.
03. Topic: Post Rd. Closure
04. Comments: To: All City Council Members
From: Kathleen Baumann - 5329 Roscommon Rd.
Ladies and Gentlemen:
I am writing on behalf of my fellow residents in Shannon Park who are dissapointed with your potential
decision to close Post Road to expand Coffman Park.
My first question is why? Isn't Coffman Park big enough?
My concern is the increase in the amount of traffic that WILL occur within our neighborhood
I understand that a "study" has taken place that states there will be little to no affect on traffic to our
neighborhood. I simply don't see how this can be. Folks trying to get through to certain points of Avery
Muirfield are NOT going to travel Emerald Parkway or down to Brand Road - they will use Tara Hill. Any
dummy can figure that out.
Usually increases in traffic results in more cars speeding, in turn more accidents ocurring.
We already have issues with high school students who drive 45 miles an hour down Roscommon Rd to
get to and from school on time. Neighborhood residents of Shannon Park have been complaining about
this for years. We have had little or no relief from the city on correcting this problem.
I caution each council member on their vote. Should the wrong decision be made - you may not be sitting
on city council the next term. And I ask you to ask yourselves; if this was happening in your
neighborhood, how would you feel? Better yet, how would you vote, then?
I am very concerned about the quality of our neighborhood, but more so concerned about the safety of my
son.
Kathleen Baumann
5329 Roscommon Rd,
Dublin OH 43017
614 - 764 -1273
Registered Republican
05. All City Council Members: True
Tami Moore -Fwd: Contact City Council Form - - - -- -
Page 2
06. Have someone call me: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
06. Respond by mail: True
07. Name: Kathleen Baumann
09. Address: 5329 Roscommon Rd
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin /OH/43017
11. Daytime Phone: 740 - 549 -1516
12. E -mail: k.linden @att.net
submit: Submit
L Frank C iarochi -Post Road Concerns Page 1
From: Jane Brautigam
To: johnpr @craneplasticsmfg.com
Date: 12/4/02 1:37PM
Subject: Post Road Concerns
Dear Mr. Previte,
Thank you for your email to the City Council concerning Post Road.
I want to assure you that Council is very concerned about neighborhood traffic issues, especially in the
Tara Hill Drive area. As a result, Council has directed the city staff to obtain a comprehensive traffic study
of the entire area from Post Road north to Brand, between Avery/Muirfield Road and Coffman Road. This
will include Shannon Glen and all of the Tara Hill Drive neighborhoods. The study will include
opportunities for citizen input. No decisions will be made concerning Post Road until this traffic study has
been completed and reviewed by staff and Council.
Council and staff both realize that issues concerning traffic in the neighborhoods is of paramount concern
to residents. No decisions concerning Post Road will be made without additional opportunities for citizen
input. We appreciate hearing directly from you and your neighbors about these issues. Please let me
know if I can provide you with additional information.
Very truly yours,
Jane S. Brautigam
City Manager
Jane Brautigam
City Manager
City of Dublin
5200 Emerald Parkway
Dublin, OH 43017
614.410.4401
jbrautigam@dublin.oh.us
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle; Hammersmith,
Paul
Tami Moore -Fwd: Contact City Counci Form Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/4/02 9:58AM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> <aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/04/02 07:45AM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 07:45:18
01, Date: 12 -4 -02
02. Time: 7:43 a.m.
03. Topic: Post Rd. Closing for Coffman Park expansion
04. Comments: As a resident of Shannon Park I am writing to express my objection to the proposed
closing of Post Rd. for the expansion of Coffman Park. While not opposed to the expansion of the park, I
feel there are other alternatives to closing Post Rd.that can be adopted to alleviate the expected increase
in traffic volume for residents of Shannon Park resulting from the proposed Post Rd. closing.
The residents of Shannon Park currently experience more than their fair share of traffic when Coffman
High School is in seesion and the numerous events that take palce at the High School venue. It is
unreasonable to burden Shannon Park with a further increase in traffic volume that would result from the
closing of Post Rd.
Rest assured the Shannon Park residents will be closely monitoring council's actions on this issue.
05. All City Council Members: True
07. Name: John M. Previte
09. Address: 5319 erin isles court
10. City /State /Zip: dublin
11. Daytime Phone: (614) 766 -4473
12. E -mail: johnnr @craneolasticsmfa.com
submit: Submit
Frank Ciarochi - Po Road concerns P age 1
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From: Jane Brautigam
To: k.linden @att.net
Date: 12/5/02 9:28AM
Subject: Post Road concerns
Dear Ms. Baumann,
Thank you for your email of December 4, 2002 to the City Council regarding Post Road. I am concerned
that several residents in the Shannon Park area may have the impression that the CITY COUNCIL is
considering the closure of Post Road. This is not the case. Rather, the Coffman Park Expansion Task
Force, which has not yet made its recommendation to Council, has discussed this possible closure - but
only in connection with several other traffic improvements that would be needed in the event Coffman
Park were to be expanded. The Task Force has made no recommendation at this time. Please be
assured that the City Council would not consider the closure of any road without ample opportunity for
public input.
Further, I want to assure you that Council is very concerned about neighborhood traffic issues, especially
in the Tara Hill Drive area. As a result, Council has directed the city staff to obtain a comprehensive traffic
study of the entire area from Post Road north to Brand, between Avery/Muirfield Road and Coffman Road.
This will include Shannon Park and all of the Tara Hill Drive neighborhoods. The study will include
opportunities for citizen input. No decisions will be made by the City Council concerning Post Road until
this traffic study has been completed and reviewed by staff and Council.
Council and staff both realize that issues concerning traffic in the neighborhoods is of paramount concern
to residents. We appreciate hearing directly from you and your neighbors about these issues. Please let
me know if 1 can provide you with additional information.
Very truly yours,
Jane S. Brautigam
City Manager
Jane Brautigam
City Manager
City of Dublin
5200 Emerald Parkway
Dublin, OH 43017
614.410.4402
jbrautigam@dublin.oh.us
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle; Hammersmith,
Paul
Frank Ciarochi - Re: Post Road co ncerns
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From:
Jane Brautigam
To:
"k. linden@ world net.att.net ".GW IA. Dublin
Date:
12/5/02 9:53AM
Subject:
Re: Post Road concerns
Dear Ms. Baumann,
Thank you so much for the information. The Council has received a number of emails on this subject in
the last two days and we were wondering what had prompted it. It definitely sounds like there is a
misunderstanding among some of the residents. If you would send me a copy of the flyer, I would greatly
appreciate it. My fax number is 410 -4490. Thanks again for your interest in this subject and for filling me
in on the flyer.
Hope to see you at Holly Days tomorrow!
Jane Brautigam
>>> "Kathleen Baumann" <k.linden @worldnet.att.net> 12/05/02 09:47AM >>>
Dear Ms. Brautigam,
Thank you for your prompt reply. If I may make a suggestion, I would
recommend that the city send a brief letter explaining this to residents of
Shannon Park and specifically, residents on Tara Hill.
I received a flyer on my doorstep Wednesday night that stated that city
council was ready to approve the closure of Post Road at their next meeting,
I assume December 9th. If you would like a copy of what was distributed,
please email me your fax number.
It appears that many residents may be misunderstanding what the city is
doing.
My only hope is that the city will make a responsible decision based upon if
they lived in our neighborhood themselves.
Thank you again for your prompt reply.
Kathie Baumann
5329 Roscommon Rd.
Dublin OH 43017
614- 764 -1273
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle
Frank Ciaroc - Tara Hill Page 1
From: Jane Brautigam
To: cprevite@oclre.org
Date: 12/5/02 9:34AM
Subject: Tara Hill
Dear Ms. Previte,
Thank you for your email of December 5, 2002 to the City Council regarding Post Road. I am concerned
that several residents in the Shannon Park area may have the impression that the CITY COUNCIL is
considering the closure of Post Road. This is not the case. Rather, the Coffman Park Expansion Task
Force, which has not yet made its recommendation to Council, has discussed this possible closure - but
only in connection with several other traffic improvements that would be needed in the event Coffman
Park were to be expanded. The Task Force has made no recommendation at this time. Please be
assured that the City Council would not consider the closure of any road without ample opportunity for
public input.
Further, as I advised Mr. Previte in an email yesterday, I want to assure you and the other residents in
your neighborhood that Council is very concerned about neighborhood traffic issues, especially in the
Tara Hill Drive area. Council has directed the city staff to obtain a comprehensive traffic study of the
entire area from Post Road north to Brand, between Avery/Muirfield Road and Coffman Road. This will
include Shannon Park and all of the Tara Hill Drive neighborhoods. The study will include opportunities for
citizen input. No decisions will be made by the City Council concerning Post Road until this traffic study
has been completed and reviewed by staff and Council.
Council and staff both realize that issues concerning traffic in the neighborhoods is of paramount concern
to residents. We appreciate hearing directly from you and your neighbors about these issues. Please let
me know if I can provide you with additional information.
Very truly yours,
Jane S. Brautigam
City Manager
Jane Brautigam
City Manager
City of Dublin
5200 Emerald Parkway
Dublin, OH 43017
614.410.4402
jbrautigam @dublin.oh.us
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle; Hammersmith,
Paul
Tami Moore - Fwd: C City Counci Form
Page 1
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From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/5/02 8:59AM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> < aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/05/02 08:42AM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 08:42:06
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01. Date: 12/06/02
02. Time: 8:30am
03. Topic: Tara Hill Drive Traffic
04. Comments: Dear Council Members,
My family and I have been Shannon Park residents since 1983. We are EXTREMELY concerned
about your proposed plans to close Post Rd for the expansion of Coffman Park. It only stands to reason
that this will have a major impact on the Tara Hill traffic pattern!! The residents along Tara Hill have the
rec center parking lot in their back yards and now you want to give them additional traffic in their front
yards. Shame on you!! We are all great supporters of the rec center as members and use the park.
PLEASE keep the safety of our children and families in your plans. Look at what you did to reroute traffic
in the southeast quadrant of Dublin in the Rings/Wilcox area. Our area deserves the same consideration
and our neighborhood deserves to be protected from traffic just as theirs was.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE provide us with a safeguard for our neighborhood. Try visiting the area
when the high school gets out and see all the speeding cars we put up with. We have asked for help with
this for years!! If you close Post Rd, this will only be intensified!! Have you ever watched crazy drivers,
teens and otherwise, go over speed bumps? They simply ignore them!!!
Your assistance with this matter is greatly needed.
Thanks you for your time.
Cynthia A. Previte
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07. Name: Cynthia A Previte
09. Address: 5319 Erin Isles Ct
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Oh 43017
12. E -mail: corevite @oclre.orq
submit: Submit
[ Tami Moore - Fwd: Contact City Council Form Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/5/02 4:01 PM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> < aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/05/02 03:03PM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.usl on Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 15:03:30
01. Date: 12 -5 -02
02, Time: 2:58 p.m
03. Topic: coffman park
04. Comments: I can't believe council is considering routing more traffic to Tara Hill and Roscommon
roads. Roscommon is already like the "Indy 500" our children are already at risk every day because we
cannot get the police to patrol the area before and after school. Closing off Post rd. is not an option the
residents of Shannon Park already put up with enough! Would you risk the lives of your children? I'm sure
it will be nice for the people on the task force who live on Post to direct the traffic our way. You must
consider the negative impact this will have on Shannon Park residents especially the children who have a
right to live in a safe community. Say no to closing Post Road!
Thank You For Listening,
Jennifer and Ernest Massart
5400 Roscommon Rd.
Dublin
05. All City Council Members: True
05. Charles Kranstuber: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07, Name: Jennifer Massart
09. Address: 5400 Roscommon rd.
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, oh. 43017
11. Daytime Phone: 761 -7859
12. E -mail: imassart @ee.net
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Post Road Page 1
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From: Jane Brautigam
To: kdmeem @sbcglobal.net
Date: 12/6/02 9:12AM
Subject: Post Road
Dear Ms. Morse,
Thank you for your email of December 5, 2002 to the City Council regarding Post Road. I am concerned
that several residents in the Shannon Park area may have the impression that the CITY COUNCIL is
considering the closure of Post Road. This is not the case. Rather, the Coffman Park Expansion Task
Force, which has not yet made its recommendation to Council, has discussed this possible closure - but
only in connection with several other traffic improvements that would be needed in the event Coffman
Park were to be expanded. The Task Force has made no recommendation at this time. Please be
assured that the City Council would not consider the closure of any road without ample opportunity for
public input.
Further, I want to assure you and the other residents in your neighborhood that Council is very concerned
about neighborhood traffic issues, especially in the Tara Hill Drive area. Council has directed the city staff
to obtain a comprehensive traffic study of the entire area from Post Road north to Brand, between
Avery/Muirfield Road and Coffman Road. This will include Shannon Park and all of the Tara Hill Drive
neighborhoods. The study will include opportunities for citizen input. No decisions will be made by the
City Council concerning Post Road until this traffic study has been completed and reviewed by staff and
Council.
Council and staff both realize that issues concerning traffic in the neighborhoods is of paramount concern
to residents. We appreciate hearing directly from you and your neighbors about these issues. Please let
me know if I can provide you with additional information.
Very truly yours,
Jane S. Brautigam
City Manager
Jane Brautigam
City Manager
City of Dublin
5200 Emerald Parkway
Dublin, OH 43017
614.410.4402
jbrautigam @dublin.oh.us
CC: Ciarochi, Frank; Clarke, Anne; Council Members; Crandall, Michelle; Moore, Tami
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T ami Moore - Fwd: Contact City Council Form Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/6/02 9:05AM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> <aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/05/02 08:24PM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 20:24:15
01. Date: December 5, 2002
02. Time: 8:30pm
03. Topic: expansion of Coffman park/traffic affecting Shannon Park
04. Comments: To Whom it May Concern,
I am a resident living on Roscommon Road and am very concerned about the proposal to close Post
Road in an effort to expand Coffman Park. While expanding the park is a great idea, the closure of Post
Road would greatly increase traffic in our neighborhood. There is already a large volume of cars in our
area, many do not adhere to the posted speed limit is 25mph. After school and during rush hour the
amount of traffic dramatically increases. Closing Post Road would further excaberate the problem. Even if
speed bumps and stop signs are installed, there would still simply be more traffic. Drivers are not going to
avoid Tara Hill to get to the Rec Center or Avery Road. Rather more cars will be traveling our streets.
Another solution needs to be addressed. Increasing traffic in this area, especially with the amount of
children who reside here, is an unsafe move.
Sincerely, Ellen Morse
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Respond by e -mail: True
07. Name: Ellen Morse
09. Address: 5419 Roscommon
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin
11. Daytime Phone: 614 - 718 -0187
12. E -mail: kdmeem @sbcolobal.net
submit: Submit
Tams MooreFwd_Cont City Coun cil Forms Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/6/02 9:06AM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> < aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/05/02 09:21 PM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 21:21:25
01. Date: 12 -5 -2002
02. Time: 9:30 pm
03. Topic: New Park
04. Comments: I've been listening to the many issues surrounding this new park and think many of your
ideas are wonderful. But I have yet to hear of a sound idea for slowing and diverting traffic on Tara Hill
and Roscommon. I live on Roscommon and have 2 boys, 6 and 2 years old. They are active and enjoy
being out doors on bikes and trikes, etc. But it's an awfully scary event to watch car after car whiz by my
house at 35 -40 mph, almost all of them ignoring stop signs as well. Teenagers doing spinouts and
peelouts down the street is also disturbing. I'm all for a grand new park, but it will absolutely increase
traffic on my street, and not just by a little, because there is no incentive to use Perimeter Drive. I don't
have any great ideas of my own, all I can think of are large, unavoidable speed bumps. And maybe that's
what will work, but something will absolutely have to be done to ensure the safety of my children and the
dozens of others near by.
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Do not want a response: True
07. Name: Tom and Christa Kollar
09. Address: 5413 Roscommon
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin
11. Daytime Phone: 6590274
submit: Submit
T am Moore-- Coffman Park Expansion Task Force " Page 1
From: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 12/11/02 3:40PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 15:26:37
01. Suggestions: I would like to see the expansion of green space, particularly the areas abutting Indian
Run creek.
Protection of this water source is consistant with the Community Plan by preserving the water quality and
distinct natural areas.
I was dissapointed to see read that the task force was considering the sale of this land for more housing.
Please refer to the Community Plan regarding the preservation of waterways and natural areas.
02. Name: Patrick Enright
03. Address: 5830 Tara Hill Dr.
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, OH 43017
05. E -mail: pjright @aol.com
submit: Submit
�Tami Moore _ Fwd: Contact City Council Form Page 1
From: Anne Clarke
To: Brautigam, Jane; Crandall, Michelle
Date: 12/30/02 9:04AM
Subject: Fwd: Contact City Council Form
>>> < aclarke @dublin.oh.us> 12/28/02 11:15AM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( aclarke @dublin.oh.us on Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 11:15:59
01. Date: Dec. 28, 2002
02. Time: 11:00 AM
03. Topic: closing of Tara Hill
04. Comments: As a resident of Shannon Park, I am concerned over the proposal to close Post Rd. I have
lived here since 1984 and have seen the constant increase of traffic in my development. In fact, I now
leave for work at a different time because of the high school traffic on Tara Hill.
I believe closing Post Rd. will be
increase traffic on our streets. I saw a similar situation cause an unbelievable increase in traffic where my
parents live and speed bumps, stop signs, and police partols have not helped. They can not even safely
back out of their driveway any more. Please do not do anything to increase the traffic in a family
subdivision. Tralee has a curve on it, cars sometimes parked on the streets, and kids outside,yet cars
speed around here everyday. I do not even want to think what Tara Hill could be like in the future if your
current plan is implemented.
05. All City Council Members: True
06. Do not want a response: True
07. Name: Jo Ann Gentile
09. Address: 7018 Tralee Drive
10. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43017
11. Daytime Phone: 614.766 -4424
12. E -mail: joanngen @aol.com
submit: Submit
Tami M oore - Coffman P ark Expansion Task Force P age 1
From: <tmoore@dublin.oh.us>
To: <tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date: 1/13/03 2:03PM
Subject: Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore@ dublin .oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, January 13, 2003 at 13:37:57
01. Suggestions: My suggestion is to not close Post Road, A park can still be built on the land without
closing the road. I live on Tara Hill and Roscommon. We are a family of four. My sons are ages 8 and 6.
am deeply concerned about the existing traffic on Tara Hill. To close Post Road would increase the traffic
on Tara Hill therefore affecting the qualify of life and safety of our children. To close Post Road to build a
park with all the opposition you are sending the message that having a park is more important than the
safety of our children. You and I would have to agree that the lives of our children are more valuable than
closing a road to create a park that is not needed. I want to feel safe about my children playing in their
own yard. I should not have to go to a park to feel safe from traffic. Increasing traffic no matter how small
or little affects the safety of children at play and the cost is irreplacable. A park can be built off Post Road
withour clo!
sing the Road. I'd love to hear from you regarding my comments.
Thank you.
02. Name: Kristine Truckly
03. Address: 5374 Tara Hill Drive
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin Oh 43017
05. E -mail: ktruckly @radar.net
submit: Submit
Tami Moore - Coffman Park Expansion Task Force Page 1
From:
< tmoore @dublin.oh.us>
To:
<tmoore @dublin.oh.us >, <fhahn @dublin.oh.us>
Date:
1/13/03 4:16PM
Subject:
Coffman Park Expansion Task Force
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
( tmoore @dublin.oh.us,fhahn @dublin.oh.us) on Monday, January 13, 2003 at 15:51:19
01. Suggestions: Waterpark - like Washington Township's Heritage Park
02. Name: John Reitz
03. Address: 8160 Lombard Way
04. City /State /Zip: Dublin, Ohio 43016
05. E -mail: jr62400 @yahoo.com
submit: Submit