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The meeting was called to order by Mayor Jan Rozanski at 7:30 P.M. on
Monday, July 17, 1989.
Mr. Sutphen led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Members of Council present were: Mrs. King, Ms. Maurer, Mayor Rozanski,
and Mr. Sutphen.
Mr. Strip was absent.
Mr. Amorose was absent.
Mr. Jankowski arrived at 7:32 P.M.
Mr. Hansley, City Manager, and Mr. Smith, Law Director, were present as wer
Mr. Bowman, Ms. Brown, Chief Ferrell, Mr. Harding, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Jones,
Ms. Jordan, Mr. McDaniel, Mrs. Metz and Mr. Willis of the City Staff.
Mayor Rozanski expressed Council's and staff's sympathy to Mr. Strip and
his family.
There was no correspondence.
Resolution No. 15-89 - Resolution in Opposition to Columbia Gas of Ohio,
Inc. Proposed Rate Increase. Tabled Resolution.
At the recommendation of staff it was agreed to table the Resolution
indefinitely.
Ordinance No. 56-89 - Ordinance Authorizing a New Position for Special
Events. Third Reading.
Ms. Maurer moved to table the Ordinance.
Mrs. King seconded the motion to table.
Vote - Mrs. King, yes; Mr. Sutphen,yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Ms. Maurer, ye .
Mr. Jankowski arrived at 7:32 P.M.
Ordinance No. 59-89 - Ordinance to Accept Lowest/Best Bid for Vacuum
Street Cleaner. Second Reading.
Mr. Harding referred to the pack of information which he had provided to
Council members, listing the deviations of the specifications which were
received and had the following comments:
1. The Tymco street sweeper bid, as submitted by Productive Equipment,
does not meet the bid requirements.
2. The sweeper uses regenerative air - a blower-type system in which the
air is falling onto the pavement and is supposed to release the
debris.
3. The City is not seeking a regenerative air type machine, but is
looking for a broom-type sweeper in which the main broom provides
the mechanism by which the mud and debris is loosened on the road;
that it is the consensus of staff that the broom type sweeper
will be much more effective.
4. Dan Johnson has used Productive Equipment in the past on a contractual
+rrr basis and on numerous occasions has had to ask them to do an area
over again because it did not pick up the debris the way it should
be picked up.
5. Other bidders could have brought in regenerative type machines and
had lower bids, but they knew that they would not meet the criteria
of the equipment class that Dublin was looking for and chose to
comply with the bid specifications.
6. Staff would be equally satisfied with the Elgin Whirlwind sweeper on
either the Ford C8000 chassis or the Mack chassis.
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7. The Mack chassis, in staff's opinion, does provide a closer match
with the bid specifications.
r... Mr. Sutphen said that the Ford chassis has the same engine as the City's
1987 dump truck and that the GMC and Caterpillar engines are identical,
the filters are identical, fan belts are similar, etc. He noted that in
the future the City will employ a diesel mechanic and that the more
standardization among City equipment and parts the better.
Mr. Sutphen also said that he felt that parts would be more available
since they would be coming from the United States (Illinois) to several
parts depots in Columbus (Ford, Kenworth) whereas there is only one
Mack dealer in Columbus.
He also reported that he had called the cities of Cincinnati, Hamilton
and Kettering, cities which use the 100% brush unit or a unit similar
to the Elgin Whirlwind and that after talking with their maintenance
people that he felt very comfortable with the bid as it has come in.
Mr. Harding reported that if Council would choose to select the C8000 Ford
chassis that there would need to be an amendment to the Ordinance; that
the total bid price would drop from $106,409.00 to $105,641.00, a
difference of $768.00.
Mrs. King noted that Productive Equipment had reported that there would be
a $2,300.00 reduction in operating costs with their machine.
Mr. Randy Sagar, representing Wagoner Machinery Inc. spoke to that issue,
~ as well as presenting additional information:
1. The Tymco has a 75 hp engine; their Elgin unit has a 109 hp engine;
that there is nothing in particular about the Tymco design that makes
it more economical from a fuel perspective.
2. Elgin has been manufacturing street sweepers since 1941.
3. The Elgin Whirlwind was introduced in 1969.
4. Wagoner Machinery has been selling Elgin for over 30 years.
5. The Elgin uses a main broom to dislodge material; the dislodged
material is conveyed and stored in the hopper with equal if not greate
capacity to any other hopper in the industry.
6. The company has a local service facility.
With regard to disposal Mr. Sagar said that the truck chassis the City
has specified will enable the City to take the trash longer distances
and make it more economical.
Mr. Sutphen moved to accept the bid from Wagoner Machinery, Inc. with the
alternate of the Ford chassis for $105,641.00, waive the three time
reading rule and treat as an emergency.
Mr. King seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mrs. King, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes;
Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes.
Vote on the Ordinance - Mr. Sutphen, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes; Mrs. King, yes;
Mayor Rozanski, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes.
Resolution No. 17-89 - Resolution to Transfer Right-of-Way, Corporate
`.r Property, Sawmill Road. Second Reading.
Mr. Bowman noted that Council had requested that he look into preserving
an area to build a bikeway or widewalk on the west side of Sawmill Road.
He reported that he was in receipt of a letter from Mr. Joe Rodgeway,
Public Service Director for the City of Columbus, said letter stating that
they had no objection, but expected that Dublin would review their plans
with the engineering division of the City of Columbus.
Mrs. King moved to adopt Mr. Ridgeway's letter as part of the Ordinance
and to add Section 1.A. to the Ordinance that being the following:
"That Dublin reserves the right to construct a bike path
or widewalk within the Sawmill Road right-of-way."
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~w Mr. Sutphen seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Ms. Maurer, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mrs. King, yes;
~ Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes.
Vote on the Resolution - Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes; Ms. Maurer,
yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Mrs. King, yes.
Resolution No. 18-89 - Resolution of Intent to Support Administration of
Income Tax Program for the Village of Powell, Ohio. Second Reading.
Mayor Rozanski suggested that the Resolution be held over for a third
reading, noting that Mr. Strip, who was absent, had expressed several
concerns with regard to the intent. of the Resolution.
Mrs. Metz reported that a representative of the Village of Powell had
called her, and that they would be discussing the proposed collection
of income tax at their meeting on Tuesday, and were anxious to have a
response to forward to their Council.
Mayor Rozanski suggested discussing it briefly to get a consensus of the
five Council members present.
Mr. Hoffman reminded Council members that this was a Resolution of Intent;
that Council would have an opportunity to further discuss and approve or
disapprove in the form of an Ordinance, accompanied by a proposed agree-
ment.
A~ He commented that he viewed the administration of Powell's income tax
as beneficial to both communities; that Dublin has the opportunity to
reach out to a neighboring community and provide them with services and
rY° skills, Dublin providing expertise, assistance and guidance much in the
same way that other communities have helped Dublin in its tax growth.
It would provide Dublin the opportunity to branch out and provide
perhaps other services to other cities in the future.
He noted that Powell has not yet decided on the amount of income tax
and therefore Dublin cannot make any projections of income for Powell
or for Dublin.
Mr. Hoffman did note that the standard contract has a fee of 3% of the
gross. He said that with regard to the first year that he had no
projections until Powell decides on the tax rate and the amount of credit
they would like to offer.
Responding to a question from Ms. Maurer, Mr. Hoffman said that in a
standard contract there is a six month notification escape clause should
either party not wish to continue the agreement.
He also said that he did not anticipate much additional work would be
generated by Powell; that they are a village of two square miles; that
if they were to require mandatory filing and total registration that
there may be a thousand returns generated and that on a monthly basis
an estimate of the number of business returns would be 50.
With regard to the possible termination of the agreement by Powell, Mr.
Hoffman said that they have as much right to terminate an agreement as
did Dublin when it terminated its agreement with Columbus.
Ms. Maurer recalled that when that decision was made by Council that
Council was concerned that Columbus was missing some of the tax credit;
construction workers, for example.
Mrs. King asked Mr. Hoffman if he foresaw a problem accommodating a
growth in staff with regard to space in the present municipal building.
Mr. Hoffman said that handling the additional work would not require
any additional personnel just for Powell alone; that there may be a need
for additional personnel for Dublin, but for the present the additional
work could be easily assimilated with present staff.
Mrs. King said that she felt that in order for the agreement to be of
benefit to either community that the commitment should perhaps be for
a longer period of time.
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Mayor Rozanski said that he did support the idea, and that as long as
Dublin's income tax collection is in order that he did not have any
objections.
Ms. Maurer moved to approve the Resolution.
Mr. Jankowski seconded the motion.
Vote - Ms. Maurer, yes; Mr. Sutphen,yes; Mrs. King, yes; Mayor Rozanski,
yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes.
Ordinance No. 65-89 - Ordinance Authorizing the Issuance of Notes - Waterli e
Projects. First Reading.
Mr. Sutphen introduced the Ordinance.
Mrs. Metz reported said that the Ordinance was for the issuance of notes fo
projects awarded by Council in June; that this Ordinance is for three
waterline projects being combined for the purpose of the note sale to
reduce the overall cost for issuance.
Mrs. King moved to waive the three time reading rule and treat as an
emergency.
Ms. Maurer seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mr. Jankowski, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes; Mayor Rozanski, y s;
Mrs. King, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes.
Vote on the Ordinance - Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mrs. King, ye ;
Ms. Maurer, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes.
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Ordinance No. 66-89 - Ordinance Authorizing the Issuance of Notes - Street
Improvements. First Reading.
Mrs. King introduced the Ordinance.
Mrs. Metz reported that this again is one of the projects that was awarded
in June.
She also recalled that Council made a motion that night to indicate that
the intent was there to issue notes to cover the cost of construction.
This project is the Frantz Road extension.
Ms. Maurer moved to waive the three time reading rule and treat as an
emergency.
Mr. Sutphen seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Ms. Maurer,
yes; Mrs. King, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes.
Vote on the Ordinance - Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mrs. King,
yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes.
Ordinance No. 67-89 - Ordinance to Accept the Lowest/Best Bid for Martin
Road Ditch Enclosure. First Reading.
~ Mr. Sutphen introduced the Ordinance.
1r~.r Mr. Willis recommended awarding the bid to M. R. Mason Company in the
amount of $30, 287.00.
Mr. Sutphen moved to do away with the three time reading rule and treat
as an emergency.
Mrs. King seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mrs. King, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes;
Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes.
Vote on the Ordinance - Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mrs. King, yes; Mayor Rozanski,
yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes.
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Ordinance No. 68-89 - Ordinance Providing for a Change of Zoning on a
5.560 Acre Tract Located on the Southwest Corner of Shier-Rings Road
and Wilcox Road. First Reading.
Mr. Sutphen introduced the Ordinance.
Mr. Sutphen moved to refer the Ordinance to the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
Mrs. King seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mrs. King, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes;
Mayor Rozanski, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes.
Ordinance No. 69-89 - Ordinance Providing for a Change of Zoning on a
20.722 Acre Tract Located on the Southwest Corner of Shier-Rings Road
and Wilcox Road. First Reading.
Mrs. King introduced the Ordinance.
Mrs. King moved to refer the Ordinance to the Planning and Zoning Commissi
Ms. Maurer seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Ms. Maurer, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes;
Mayor Rozanski, yes; Mrs. King, yes.
Ordinance No. 70-89 - Ordinance Providing for a Change of Zoning on a
8.0 Acre Tract Located on the Northeast Corner of Tara Hill Drive and
Muirfield Drive. First Reading.
~w Mr. Sutphen introduced the Ordinance.
Mr. Sutphen moved to refer the Ordinance to the Planning and Zoning
Commission for review and their recommendation.
Mr. Jankowski seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mrs. King, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes;
Ms. Maurer, yes; Mr. Jankowski, yes.
Mr. Sutphen moved to adjourn to Executive Session at 8:12 P.M. for the
purpose of discussing pending litigation.
Mr. Jankowski seconded the motion.
Vote - Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mrs. King, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes; Mayor Rozanski
yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes.
Mayor Rozanski called the meeting back to order at 8:55 P.M.
Other
Request for Approval of Concept Plan - Dunmere at Muirfield Drive.
Mr. Bowman presented the following background information as well as
additional comments and recommendations:
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1. This is a Concept Plan, a prelude to a rezoning application for a
Planned Unit Development.
2. A Concept Plan is non-binding; its main purpose is to give the
developer guidance as to what the expectations are for the
municipality in order for him to prepare detailed preliminary plans,
which will become a basis for the zoning.
3. Dunmere contains 256 acres.
4. It is the entire area (with the exception of a few large lots)
between existing Indian Run Meadows to the south and Muirfield to
the north, all on the east side of Avery Road.
5. It includes a small portion of the Earlington Subdivision.
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6. The plan does include the entire 3900 feet necessary to complete
Muirfield Drive.
7. The plan has been before Council, before the Planning and Zoning
Commission twice, and has been pending for approximately one and one
half to two years.
8. A minor change is that the developer was able to purchase more
property, bringing in a larger area for a more unified development.
9. Staff's objectives with respect to Dunmere are as follows:
A. Negotiate a development with a gross residential density of
3.5 units/acre, consistent with the Community Plan and also
with surrounding development.
B. Complete Muirfield Drive as a spacious, well-designed roadway,
similar to what is now found in existing Muirfield.
C. Provide for park land, trying to balance the need for more
active space with the more scenic variety, "hook up" some of the
bike trails and provide buffering, expecially along Brand Road
and muirfield Drive.
D. Develop the plan to its capabilities - soils conditions and stor
water management.
10. Staff feels this concept is consistent with Dublin's development
objectives and standards.
11. It is a mixed use development - includes the proposed Washington
Township Fire Department on two acres on Brand Road, 41 acres of
multi-family units flanking Muirfield Drive, a four acre church site
and 136 acres of single family development.
12. There is a commercial component of mixed uses - office, retail-type
development not to exceed 5 acres on each of the four corners of
Muirfield Drive and Dublinshire Drive.
13. The park system includes 39 acres, part of which will be used to
insulate the commercial areas and cause green belt connections
between some of the major parks - 14 acres of active park land at
a location in the southwest section of the development, 3 acres
being dedicated to the Muirfield Drive median.
14. The proposal will complete Muirfield Drive, extending Dublinshire
Drive westward to Avery Road.
15. Bike paths will run parallel to these streets
16. Staff believes this Concept Plan now merits approval with the proviso
that at the time of the preliminary plan there will be many more
details provided, especially with regard to the following:
A. Demonstration of the character of the boulevard, the multi-famil
area, the commercial components, specific design criteria and
its ability to blend and integrate the plan and the surrounding
area.
B. Possible modifications to the park to make it more usable.
C. Assurance that the bike path gets connected in the right places.
D. The flood plain area in the southwest portion of the develop-
ment requires careful study.
E. Study and discussion of the setbacks and landscape treatments
along Brand Road.
17. The Planning and Zoning Commission, after a great deal of discussion,
approved the Concept Plan by a 4-3 margin.
Mr. Sutphen commented that approximately 84 acres has not been included
in the legal description.
Mr. Sutphen also said that on this particular project that he would like
to see the 13 acre park site moved closer to Avery Road.
Mr. Bowman reported that the legal description is not a requirement of the
Concept Plan; that it will be done as part of the rezoning and will be
reviewed in detail.
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Mr. Sutphen said that he would like to see a commitment in writing
regarding the bike path on the AT&T line to connect the neighborhood
p arks .
Ms. Jordan said that a bike path can be put on the line, it can be
mounded but that nothing but ground cover can be planted on it.
Mr. Tim Kelley was present, representing the applicant, Dunmere Associates,
a partnership of Mr. Robert Weiler and Mr. Don Kelley, who have developed
most of the rest of the quadrant - Hemingway Village, Earlington Village,
Dublinshire, Asherton and Shannon Park.
He noted that the property involves an assemblage of five or six different
parcels and said that the legal description recently prepared includes the
Master property which is approximately 84 acres.
Mrs. Headlee said that the 84 acres was not in the legal description that
she had.
Mr. Kelley said that the 84 acres is under contract by the applicant,
but not yet owned by the applicant, and said that the situation would be
clarified the following day.
Mr. Keith Meyers of Scioto Design Group said that the plan presents a
unique situation between four existing park sites and that the opportunity
to potentially connect the park sites.
He noted that the total aggregate density of the proposed development is
3.5 units/acre; the completion of Muirfield Drive is another objective.
Mr. Meyers noted that there is a concern for maintaining an active park
and said they were suggesting a 15 acre active park in the southwest
portion of the site, there being a number of advantages to the site;
there being potential infrastructure on two sides of it that the park
ii~rr could utilize; that there could be a development of park (shared) with
the office and the church site. The shared concept, he said, would reduce
the amount of development cost required to turn the site into an active
park. He noted that parks are not an inexpensive item to build - that
development of a park can cost $25,000.00 to $30,000.00 an acre.
Mr. Meyers also noted that they have tried to develop the land plan to
preserve existing drainage portions and that they will study in depth
those capabilities as the engineering studies are begun in the preliminary
stage of development.
Mrs. King wanted assurance that the park land linkages would be in excess
of 100' in width; that the City would not want "noodles" but would want
substantive connections that allow people to realize that they are on
park land.
Mr. Kelley agreed and said that on the current plan the linkages were show
at 80' to 100' in width.
Mrs. King also urged the developer not to provide major arterial streets,
such as Tara Hill Drive, with all kinds of driveways on them.
With regard to the proposed location of the park, Mrs. King said that she
did not see anything positive about having a park back up to dumpsters
or loading docks (the proximity to a commercial area).
It was noted that with regard to the 5 acre commercial sites that the
~ intent is that they be neighborhood oriented and would not have large
loading docks or dumpsters in the open.
Mrs. King also reminded the applicant that should there be a school site
in the development that provisions be made so that children will be able
to get to the school safely.
Mr. Jankowski said that from a concpet plan point of view that he had no
objections to what had been proposed to this point.
Mr. Sutphen said that he thought that there should be a Dublin approved
bike path along Brand Road from Muirfield Boulevard to the east, noting
that Brand Road can be extremely treacherous. He also mentioned the
fact that there were no sidewalks in some areas.
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Ms. Maurer with regard to the suggestion to put a bike path on Brand Road,
said that she thought that the idea was to get pedestrians and bicyclists
off of Brand Road.
Mr. Sutphen was concerned about how people would get from the north end of
Muirfield to Earlington Park.
Ms. Jordan reported that she would like to review the issue further; that
there may be a way to make another connection to Earlington Park; that
when the map was done there were concerns about a bike path along Brand
Road, one of them was the proximity of very large trees close to the
road in the ditch; that it was designated as a scenic drive.
Ms. Jordan also noted that at the review of the Final Development Plan
for the Earlington/Wyandot Park that the bike path was shown looping
the pond in Earlington and not going out to Brand Road because of the
site distance, the angle in the road making that an extremely dangerous
point.
With regard to the issue of the park, Ms. Maurer said that she felt that
those persons residing in the single family and multi-family units deserve
to have their own park, a neighborhood park. She said that she felt
that the City should divide their soccer, baseball, football uses, etc.
and put in a new large park in the northeast quadrant; that it makes more
sense to divide the uses and divide the traffic as well.
She also said that she felt that there should be a balance among the
sports as well, noting having the focus leaning toward serving one
~ interest.
Mayor Rozanski pointed out that there are already four established parks
Irnr in the area of the proposed park in the southwest quadrant - Earlington
Park, Wyandot Park, Orr Park and Scottish Corners Park.
He also said that he felt that more traffic is created by separating
parks, requiring people to drive on a Saturday morning from one park to
another, transporting children.
Mayor Rozanski also noted that registrations for soccer have closed becaus
not enough facilities are available; not only for soccer but also for
baseball and football as well.
He said that he supports all activities, providing facilities for those
desirous of participating, and that here would be an opportunity to
enlarge Avery Park at no land cost.
Mayor Rozanski said that necessity of transporting family members from
one site to another would also probably reduce volunteerism, which is
a very important aspect of the youth sports programs.
He said he strongly supported moving the 13 acre parcel to the north to
have the opportunity to expand Avery Park at this time and that except
for the park issue he supported the plan.
Mrs. King commented that if the City were to add to Avery Park that she
would favor adding to it on the west side of the park, bringing the road
up around the west side through development that is inevitable.
She also said that she felt that the park should be built on the east side
and that a park soccer should make every effort to have neighborhood-type
soccer teams.
Mrs. King also said that she felt that a pocket park or a tot lot type
`r~r of park needs to be planned in the large northwest quadrant that contains
single and multi-family housing.
Mrs. Catherin Headlee had the following comments (which she read) and
asked specifically that they be part of the record, said comments being
addressed to Dublin Council Members and dated July 17, 1989.
"The Concept Plan at Dunmere is strictly a concept plan. This development
plan is too dense. Let's look at it very carefully. What you see is not
what you will get. The overall Concept Plan consists of 256.91 acres.
Look at the land use plan very carefully - 171.25 acres of single and
multi-family, 45.41 acres for Muirfield Drive, office space, fire
station, parking lots and what have you. While 40 acres of park land
looks like a lot and meets all your requirements, the connection, and the
connection of the four parks is a very great selling point and a very
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important part of the bicycle plan, but let's look at the bicycle plan...
are and will be built in your drain swells. The extension of Muirfield Dr e
~ south is a much needed additional link and long overdue, but don't let it
be held to your head as a selling point in approving Dunmere. While water
is very much in evidence, no water retention lakes ar.e shown anywhere,
as well as additional roads or cul-de-sacs, so it is safe to assume
another 20 acres of retention or lakes and 20 acres of maybe more roads
and cul-de-sacs and more parking lots will be subtracted from the overall
plan, taking another 40 acres while still holding on to the 171.25 acres
of housing, or a potential of 793 housing units plus, all drinking water
and flushing their toilets. The developer always holds on to the housing
acres regardless of what you approve or the amenities that come out of
the Concept Plan, so beware. I know every inch of this area and I know
looking at the plan, and I'm very much aware that while we are a single
family, my husband and I, adjoining this property, we are the only ones
connected to the multi-family housing. Sitting on Council and P&Z for
many years, I'm not sorry I made developers re-pltn their trees, mow
their weeds and meet all the requirements before approving their rezonings
If this is the price my husband and I have to pay for hanging in there
tough, so be it. So I do object to being the only single house adjoining
multi-family. I would also like to go on and make a statement for some
of the following suggestions to Council - to be aware of the responsibilit
that you are about to approve or disapprove.
These are just suggestions bud I'd like to be on record at the time.
1. Limestone, large, large boulders and blue rock will be found. All
blasting, I would like to suggest, is to be monitored. No additional
cracks of walls or basements in the adjoining houses or the ruination
of the wells.
2. Many of use are on well water with shallow wells. Wells will not be
drained or ruined. If this occurs, the contractors and Dublin are
now being made aware of this potential problem.
3. In placing sewers, storm drains and roadways, I would like to recomme d
a Dublin inspector be on duty at all times. No work to be done after
5:00 P.M. and before 8:00 A.M. and none on weekends - only if there
are inspectors inspecting.
4. The ground is saturated with fine sand and water. In removing the
ground water, I hope that basements don't settle and crack. We
certainly don't want a Miami, Galveston or another Columbus in Dublin
If this occurs I hope you people are alerted at this time. I know
for a fact bore testing has been done and you will be told this
also; however, I would like to remind you, bore testing doesn't
always show sand and water, and believe me, there's a lot of it
because in the following places bore testing was done and it didn't
show your water - the Performing Arts Building, Dublin High School
(and we all know what that cost us), Brandon, Asherton, and Earlingto
and the shopping mall at Post and Avery which is happening now. Test bores
aren't always right and I hate to say, I told you so, but I did, so
I'm telling you now again.
~ 5. The Council has over $40,000.00 of underground drainage to protect,
and the taxpayers money has used it in Avery Road Park to drain. I
hope very sincerely you will look where your drainage is going to go,
who it will floood, where it will go and what type of flood control
you're going to be part of. Beware of what has been done, what
needs to be done, where it will flow and above all, who it is going
to flood.
6. The AT&T line goes all through Dublin. We've got approximately
4,000 feet here with the....amount of right-of-way. It was then, is
now, and always permanent.......green space not to be built on.
You can put a bicycle path on it so it doesn't really make any
different whether this land is zoned or not zoned or anything.
People, you already own it, you already can use it. It can go clear
through Dublin, up Ashbaugh Road, which gives you a connection to
Muirfield through River Forest, parts of Dublin Road to the east
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side of the river. All you have to do is use your imagination and
use it and get permission to use it and I'd venture to say we might
not be able to put a mound on itk but you can put a bicycle path
alongside it. So you should make the AT&T line work for Dublin, not
for the developer. I think Dublin is sort of missing the boat if
they don't use the AT&T line.
But I think where you have some of this, you could also subtract
another 1% of land from your AT&T line from your overall project.
I found it quite interesting the other day when I asked Pat for a map
of Dunmere, and he gave me a little map which I couldn't read, so
he called Fran and she gave me a bigger map.
It's quite interesting because the map that Pat gave me and the map
that Fran gave me don't match, so I don't know what you're reading.
you're reading the map that was June 26th or June 21st, but your maps
don't match, and in the past 19 or 20 years I can think of over four
times off the top of my head, and I'm being very sincere now-that
if the map that Pat has on record in the Planning and Zoning Depart-
ment doesn't match the maps that Council is looking at and voting on,
and they are still a different map that the P&Z voted on and looked
at and discussed and voted for or turned down, all you need is one
irate taxpayer or adjoining citizen. If. you don't have all matching
maps, it's not good, and I think it behooves everybody to get
together and I don't think it will cost any more time and money to do
something and do it right and the first time through rather than
fooling around and oing things over and over again and taking up
Council's time, staff time, developer's time and Planning and Zoning
Board's time. I think it's a .......that all the maps don't match,
the legal description isn't all here and yet we're ready to go,
we're ready to move on it, and I don't think that's right, and I
think that Council should insist that things be done right the
first time through. That's it."
There was discussion regard the map that was distributed with the Concept
Plan; whether the one date, June 21, or June 26 was the correct one, and
it was determined that they were, overall, basically the same.
Mrs. King said that they would show retention ponds on the preliminary
plan.
Mrs. Headlee said that she wanted to go on record as objecting to the fact
that she resides in the only single-family resident that adjoins the
multi-family housing.
It was noted that the City does have construction standards with regard
to blasting and possible interference with existing residences and wells
to protect property owners.
Mrs. Cath Erickson of the Dublin Soccer League had the following comments:
1. Overall they are happy with the plan.
2. The 13 acre park site should be moved north in proximity to the
present Avery Park.
3. The soccer league has presently 1700 children involved for one
season, not including adults or travel teams.
4. The number of sports fields is not increasing, not keepin up with the
demands of growing City.
5. From a management standpoint, the soccer league cannot be spread out
all over the City.
6. The parks are being used 7 days a week; on Saturday morning Avery
Park is used. for soccer from 8:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M.
7. The league is volunteer based - there are children refereeing,
children who play soccer as well as referee.
8. Agree that Avery Park needs to be expanded to the west. The size of
Avery Park needs to be increased, and noted that the Community Plan
says that the City is committed to expanding the Avery Park facility.
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~ Ms. Maurer wondered whether or not there have been negotiations with
the far northwest civic association to assure that facilities are
being provided in that northwest area of Columbus; that there has
not been a great deal of development of active parks in that area
of Columbus; that perhaps some pressure might be put on the Columbus
City Council to provide more parks.
She also commented that if the goal is to serve the entire Dublin
school district then other parts of the Dublin school district
should be looked at to serve those needs.
9. The participants in the soccer league play 7 days a week. The travel
teams are out there every night until dark. The adult teams, travel
teams, etc. play on Sundays.
10. Not in favor of having a community divided between the Dublin School
District and Dublin proper.
11. The Dublin School System has been committed to provide soccer
fields and baseball fields.
12. The Dublin Soccer League has spent money paying for soccer goals and
donating them, donating them to the high school, for example.
Mr. Ralph Halloran recalled that when the Concept Plan had been reviewed
previously that there was a great deal of discussion about storm water
retention. He said that this large tract would require a large lake,
a 14 acre lake, 5 feet deep or any multiple thereof for purposes of
retaining storm water, and also said that when the Concept Plan came back
before Council that he wanted to see the equivalent of 14 acres, 5' deep
~ on the plan somewhere for storm water retnetion.
Mr. Joe Kuehner, of the Dublin Youth Athletic Association, said that he
shared Mrs. Erickson's concerns regarding expanding youth athletic
programs and the lack of space, noting that there were 1500 youth
involved in baseball.
Mr. Kuehner said that the football program was a primary concern, and that
they would be happy with any space, whether it be near Avery Park or in
the center of the site.
He did have some concerns with regard to the Avery Park site; the
difficulty of parking as well as pedestrians crossing Avery Road from
east to west, which would be a safety concern; also commented that a
large retention lake would be a necessity.
Ms. Jordan noted that this plan has been discussed more than any other
plan that she can recall, and said that the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee voted 5 to 1 for approval of the park site in the southwest
portion of the development.
She also said that she thought the preference would be to add to the
west side of Avery Park.
Ms. Jordan suggested appointing an ad hoc committee, representing baseball,
soccer, softball, football, etc. to discuss needs and make decisions on
what athletic uses there will be.
Ms. Jordan commented that she felt that the City has been very responsible
in providing athletic facilities for the community, noting that since
1987 the City has acquired four additional soccer fields at Avery Park;
that by 1990 there will be two soccer fields at Earlington Park; that
by this fall one field at Scottish Corners will be grassed; that this
~ summer $30,000.00 worth of irrigation will be put in to maximize the
double season of soccer at Avery Park; that also this year the City of
Dublin cooperated with Washington Township and purchased some 40 acres
for a park.
Ms. Maurer moved to approve the Concept Plan.
Mr. Jankowski seconded the motion.
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Mr. Sutphen said that he would accept Ms. Maurer's motion but that he
really thought that the park should be up in the proximity of Avery Road.
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Vote on the motion for approval - Ms. Maurer, yes; Mr. Sutphen, no; Mr.
Jankowski, yes; Mrs. King (comment-"I'd like to see it all worked out and
agreed upon so we know what we're getting"), no; Mayor Rozanski, no.
-Vote - 2• yes, 3'. no
Mr. Kelley commented that they had worked on the plan for two years; that
this particular park concept was approved by the Parks and Recreation
Committee.
He said that they would study the park site and try to work it out with
all involved.
Mr. Kelley said, for the record, "I'm not asking you to fix forever the
location of the park land when you approve this plan".
He said he understood that the issue of the park land site. is the reason
the plan was voted down.
Mayor Rozanski said that was the primary reason and that another one was
the description of the property, the acreage.
Mrs. King suggested that Mr. Kelley call Council members and ask them how
they felt about the plan.
Mr. Smith suggested that since a limited Council was in attendance that
Mr. Kelley speak to Council members individually and discuss their concerns
and why they voted the plan down, and then ask one of the members who
voted "no" to bring the plan up for reconsideration at the first meeting
in August.
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Request for Bed Tax Funds - Dublin Biathlon Challenge and Fitness Expo.
Mr. Robert Kaiser explained that his company has recently merged with
Rocket Promotions and that they are a new sports management company,
a profit corporation. He noted that they have the largest amateur golf
series in the midwest so their staff is quite experienced.
Mr. Kaiser also noted that the biathlon is growing tremendously in the
United States, one reason being the great interest in biking and running,
fitness becomeing and lifestyle and commented that the biathlon seems to
be overcoming the triathlon concept and format because of the problems
with the swimming portions.
He noted that 1000 participants are expected for the event which will be
a three city event in the State of Ohio. Originally it was thought that
the event would be held in September of this year, but with the time
limit and the necessity for advertising and promotion, it was decided
to push back the event.
Mr. Kaiser said that the event is planned for a Sunday afternoon with
Saturday for the fitness expo. The benefits to Dublin would be numerous -
publicity with the name Dublin involved in the advertising of the event,
said advertising and promotion around the state, the medwest and nationall
in selected publications. There would be thousands of participants and
supporters coming into Dublin for the weekend, staying at hotels, eating
at restaurants, generating bed tax revenue.
jyi,,. Responding to a question from Mayor Rozanski, Mr. Kaiser said that the
event would draw primarily local people but would have the potential of
drawing people from around the state, the midwest and perhaps even
nationally.
Mr. Jankowski said that the request had not been to the Finance Committee
because he felt that there were some philosophical issues involved
which the entire Council should address. He noted that most of the grants
of the bed tax monies had been granted to non-profit organizations which
have local groups.
Mr. Jankowski also said that this request was entirely different in that
it is a for-profit business and that not only would tax dollars be
involved but also those things that some with such a sponsorship-
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contractual obligations, liability, etc. and that he did not feel that
this is a direction that Council should take.
Mr. Kaiser said that they felt that from the standpoint of Dublin interest,
that if they wanted an event named after the City that the usual
procedure is for title sponsors, thus there would be some financial
involvement.
Mr. Kaiser told Ms. Maurer that the profit is realized from the entry
fees and a percentage of that profit would be designated for a particular
charity. With regard to prior experience with biathlons Mr. Kaiser said
that they have a professional organization - The Marion Express from
Marion, Ohio that has been working in this particular area of sports
activities for about five years.
He said that his company would be involved in the marketing and promotion,
but that the Marion Express would handle the technical operation.
Discussion ensued regarding expenses, profits, and Mr. Kaiser said that
they have not had a city, as such, participate in this type of event.
Mayor Rozanski referred the request to the Finance Committee for their
recommendation.
Presentation Regarding Coffman Municipal Facility Study.
Mr. Bowman had the following comments:
1. The plans for Coffman Park. First is the planned extension of Coffma
Road to the south, eventually linking it up to Perimeter Drive and
taking it over U.S. 33 with a projected date of two to three years
with expected land transfers to take place.
2. There is a need to expand the municipal building in order to
consolidate the Building, Engineering, and Planning Departments,
those departments presently leasing space, and bringing them back
to the Coffman Road building.
3. There appears to be a demand for a community building, one place for
municipal activities.
4. During the community plan review in 1987, when people identified the
need for a multi-purpose building, the Coffman Road/Park area was
mentioned in order to provide a primary focus for city activities,
civic services, a civic center as well as having city services
within a well-designed, integrated municipal building.
5. Staff would desire direction and guidance from Council in order for
staff to proceed to expand on the plan presented this evening.
6. Subsequently, staff would meet with the Historical Society, community
groups, neighborhood groups, etc. for their input; staff would come
back to Council with a refined plan to be presented at an advertised,
public hearing for input from any interested citizen.
7. One of the most important aspects of the plan is to preserve the
park and to actually expand upon it.
8. Showed a slide of the site.
~,s„ Mr. Bill Schubert of Karlsberger and Associates also had a number of
E comments, including background information and a description and explana-
tion regarding the proposed plan.
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1. Began in September of last year working for the City.
2. Had two major goals - one to identify the types of services the City
would add at Coffman Park and the other, to develop a master plan
locating those services.
3. Distributed questionnaires to department heads, follow up by
interviews and thus were able to determine staffing, volume
projections and operational issues for each department.
4. Programming is an important part of the services, identifying
functional and space needs before development of the master plan.
5. Also did an existing conditions study - property ownerships,
topography, utilities, existing flood plain, as well as site
amenities of the park.
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6. An important finding of the existing conditions was that the
functional configuration of the existing building is well suited
to municipal facilities.
7. A keystone of the master plan was to retain the present structure
as a municipal building and expand on it.
8. There are three major on-site facilities - the municipal building
renovation and expansion, as well as two other separate buildings;
a community center for recreational use with space for a gym,
craft spaces, etc.; a third building for the City law enforcement
facilities.
9. Retention of the existing passive park space as well as expansion
of the active recreation space.
10. Preservation of the historic homestead.
11. Extensive landscaping with landscape buffers from the surrounding
development.
12. Consideration of property acquisition and future avenues for
expansion.
13. One of the original assumptions was that Post Road would continue on
through and would be the southern boundary of the site.
14. City Staff then asked Karlsberger and Associates to revisit the site
with the assumption that Post Road would be vacated and Coffman
Road would extend to the south. The City felt that there was a
unique opportunity to acquire approximately 17 acres to the south,
so his staff went back and looked at the plan with three goals -
create more passive recreation and continue to enhance and extend
the green space; continue to retain the separate identity of the
buildings; further enhance the visibility and image of Coffman Park
as a community focal point.
15. Described in some detail the site and the surrounding area.
16. Assuming the Post Road becomes vacated and moved to the south toward
Perimeter Drive and Coffman Road, specific enhancements were
proposed to be added to the site - moving the access drive that
surrounds the site down to the south to Perimeter Drive, allowing
the development of more passive recreation space, pulling the
buildings back and away from the road, allowing for an amenity to
announce the Dublin Community center at Post and Coffman Roads.
17. Parking could be shared by various facilities and activities.
18. Space for an amphitheater.
19. The existing pond is disrupted by the new Coffman Road extension,
but will be replaced with a new pond in a different location.
With regard to t'he location of the active park space, Mr. Schubert said
that the gradual sloping in the area was not severe enough to require
anything other than some earth grading.
ms. Maurer said that she liked the concept of the passive recreation area
with the space for some outdoor entertainment.
She also remarked that she visited something similar to this in Scottsdale
Arizona, and that there they had behind the civic center a commercial
area with a number of restaurants.
Mr. Bowman said that he perceived a hotel, but that there could be
restaurants.
It was noted that the City would need to acquire about 17 acres.
Mrs. King said that maximizing the use of the stream through the park was
very important.
She was also pleased that the commitment to the citizens to the north
that there would not be buildings there, and also recalled that there was
a commitment to those same residents that there would not be vehicular
access to that end of the park.
Mr. Sutphen said that he liked the plan and also said that he felt that
the community center should be built first, then the Police Department
building and finally the expansion to the current municipal building.
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Mrs. Margaret Vance, a resident, said that she did not feel that
administrative staffs should be split into different areas.
She also said that she did not feel that the proposed plan did not "look
like Dublin" mentioning the need for a cultural arts center along with
a community center area such as this.
Ms. Maurer moved that Council approve and give direction for further
study and refinement of the plan.
Mr. Sutphen seconded the motion.
Vote on the motion - Mrs. King, yes; Mr. Sutphen, yes; Ms. Maurer, yes;
Mr. Jankowski, yes; Mayor Rozanski, yes.
Mayor Rozanski announced that the discussions regarding street signage and
the traffic flow at the Bridge Street/High Street and Bridge Street/
Riverside Drive intersections would take place at the next Council meeting.
Following discussion it was decided to have a special Council meeting to
discuss the merger issue and related topics. It was decided to schedule
the meeting tentatively for Jly 24 and that Mayor Rozanski would contact
the Council members who were absent to get their preference.
[Subsequently, the meeting was scheduled for Monday, July 31, 1989.]
Comments from Staff
Mr. Hansley
1. One project will be funded from Issue 2 funds - a $71,200 project for
a.,,r improving the ditches along S.R. 745.
2. The community will be aggressively looking at options for water and
sewer service. Staff intends to bring legislation before Council
to authorize contracting with a consulting firm to examine options
available to the City of Dublin, including perhaps working with
neighboring communities.
Mr. Harding
1. Informed Council that the City staff is in the midst of recreuiting
for several positions - Assistant Finance Director, Assistant City
Engineer, Development Director, two Police Dispatchers and an
additional engineering project inspector.
Comments from Citizens
Ms. Headlee
1. Again commented regarding the presence of weeds on vacant properties,
mentioning specifically the approximately 80 acres along Avery Road
overgrown with Canadian thistle.
Mr. Ralph Halloran
1. Said the curb in the alley east of High Street was finally, after two
~rw years, put in, but noted that the first time that it rained that the
water came from the hill on High Street and went over the entire
curb into the yards of homes on Riverview Street.
He also said that there is a hole in the curb and that the rain
water is washing out the curb.
Mr. Halloran suggested that the engineering department look at the
curb and determine a way to raise the curb and repair the hole.
Mr. Willis said that the break in the curb was done by the Gas
Company and said that he thought that the curb was working rather
well, noting that the recent rains were very severe and intense.
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Mayor Rozanski said that he was also surprised at the shallow depth,
height of the curb himself, and that the primary concern and reason
for the curb was to prevent flooding in residents' yards.
He asked Mr. Willis and his staff to minitor the situation.
Council Roundtable Discussion
Ms. Maurer
1. The Land Use and Planning Committee will meet on July 27, 1989 at
11:30 A.M.
They will be notifying the Dublin Women's Club of the meeting to
ask that a representative be present to provide information regarding
the Gelpi property.
2. Regarding the impact statements and Dale Bertsch's comments on them,
and the request for a response from Council, noting that members of
Council had not yet received that information.
3. Thanked Mr. Harding for his efforts and work involved in explaining
the street sweeper bid deviations.
4. Announced that last week she, Mr. Mike Lorz and Mrs. Urban had met
with Marie Cusack, from Nationwide, and former aide to Arlene
Shoemaker. Ms. Cusack has volunteered to spend some time in
helping Mrs. Urban develop a citizen response system.
Mrs. King
i... 1. Announced that there would be a Purlic Service Committee meeting at
9:30 A.M. on Friday, July 28, 1989.
2. Also thanked Mr. Harding for his report.
Chief Ferrell and Mr. Sutphen announced that the Safety Committee would
be touring the Grove City Police Department facilities on August 11, 1989.
Mayor Rozanski
1. The Columbus Feis will be held in Dublin on Saturday and Sunday,
August 5th and 6th.
He noted that the Dublin Historical Society would like to Seel beer
in Coffman Park during that celebration - from noon until midnight
on Saturday and from 1:00 to 5:00 P.M. on Sunday.
He said that it was his understanding that they would get the permit
and get and pay for the insurance, and said that he had been informed
that the cost of their coverage would be approximately $500.00.
Mr. Hansley reminded Council that they had recently passed an
Ordinance prohibiting open display of alcohol in Dublin parks.
Mr. Jankowski said that he was not keen on alcoholic beverages in
parks even for special events. He also said that he wanted to
see the $500.00 insurance that the Historical Society got, when the
City had to underwrite $3000.00 in insurance when beer was sold
last year in Coffman Park.
Mrs. King said that she had always had reservations regarding public
consumption of alcohol and that she did not feel that it is
something that Council should be promoting.
Ms. Maurer mentioned the event that the Dublin Historical Society
sponsored on South High Street the Friday evening before the
Fourth of July where beer was sold. She said that i*_ was a family
affair; that there was no rowdiness nor were there problems.
Mayor Rozanski said that he would not object provided that the
group has the proper permits and appropriate and adequate insurance
coverage.
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Mrs. King said that she would feel more comfortable if the alcohol
consumption was indoors, and said that she was also concerned about the
consistency of applications.
Mr. Jankowski and Mrs. King said that they were not in favor of the
selling and consumption of beer in Coffman Park on the weekend of the
Columbus Feis (August 5,6, 1989).
Ms. Maurer, Mr. Sutphen and Mayor Rozanski had no objection as long as
the Historical Society has the proper permits and insurance.
Mr. Harding expressed a concern, saying that he did not think that $500
would buy much insurance coverage at all and that from a liability stand-
point of the City said that he felt that the City should be named as an
additional insured or a named insured on that policy to protect the
liability of the City.
Mayor Rozanski said that he expected staff to research the matter and to
make sure that all was in order.
Mayor Rozanski thanked Kroger's, A&W Root Beer, Jimm Crum and all the
area service clubs for their help and participation in the raising of
funds for East Seals this past weekend.
Mayor Rozanski adjourned the meeting at 11:52 P.M.
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