HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-16-07 Study SessionDUBLIN CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
Monday, April 16, 2007
Council Chambers
MINUTES OF MEETING
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher, Vice Mayor Lecklider, Ms. Salay, Mr. Keenan, Mr.
Reiner {arrived at 7:20 p.m.). Mrs. Boring and Mr. McCash were absent (excused)
Staff members present were Ms. Brautigam, Mr. Hahn, Mr. Earman and Ms. Karagory.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that tonight's study topic is the Parks and Recreation
Master Plan.
Mr. Hahn introduced Mr. Kline of Kinzelman, Kline & Gossman. Dick Horton was also
present from Bucker, Willis & Ratliff, a sub consulting firm on the project.
Mr. Kline stated that he would be presenting an overview on the project to date and
soliciting Council input.
Vision Oriented Community Goals
• Create and strengthen strong ties with the community through citizen-
based planning, participation and equitable distribution of resources.
• Continue to improve and enhance facilities and programs.
• Promote a safe, healthy and inclusive environment for recreational and
leisure activities.
• Take a leadership role in protecting, interpreting and promoting cultural,
historic and natural resources.
• Consistently provide a wide range of recreational opportunities accessible
to all through quality parks and special facilities.
• Leverage resources and forge strategic ties to achieve or exceed our
mission.
• Promote and support the visual arts throughout the community.
Mr. Kline stated that the intent is to establish the basis whereby the entire community
will be provided facilities -not to satisfy everyone but to provide a broad enough base
whereby the attempt can be made to do that. This study has identified lands that could
be developed, pursuant to Council's goals. It also identifies who else is providing
community services and programs. In those cases, the City could either not provide
the service or could pursue a formal partnership whereby the City is associated but
does not have the responsibility.
PubliclStakeholder Involvement
Mr. Kline stated that meetings are being held with all the major stakeholders to identify
their interests and concerns. Dublin's existing park system is top within the nation, and
the feedback they received indicates that the community appreciates it. When the final
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draft of the master plan has been completed, it should be presented to the community.
The Parks & Recreation Advisory Commission may be the appropriate body to do that.
Mr. Earman noted that the focus of the master plan is not primarily on incorporating all
the existing "wants and needs," but to prepare for the future needs of the community.
Mr. Kline stated that the master plan will integrate the land use plan.
Ms. Salay requested an example of the type of strong ties with the community that he
perceives.
Mr. Earman responded that an example would be the sharing of facilities. Looking at
the program component of the plan reveals that the space is too limited for the amount
of programming the City is trying to offer. Part of the problem may be that the City is
trying to provide more than it should. Dublin serves more than City residents with its
Parks and Recreation programs. The City will experience more growth; how will that
be accommodated? One example is the Wyandot camps. Every year, the community
response is greater than the space available. Through partnership, there may be the
opportunity for space in the Hilliard school facility. Partnership is one of many options.
Ms. Salay inquired if the City is turning away City residents or school district residents
from the Wyandot camp program.
Mr. Earman responded that Dublin residents have first registration, after which, if space
remains, school district residents may enroll.
Mr. Kline listed the facilities inventory study components: park character, connectivity,
site structures, site furnishings, land cover, park access, park activities, community
input and Dublin GIS base mapping and supplementation, and the Coffman Park site
plan.
Pedestrian, bikeway and path connectivity were also evaluated, including: bikepaths,
sidewalks, natural surfaces, M~RPC review, regional connectivity, and future
connections. Along with the need to identify any existing breaks in the system is the
need to determine how the bikepath system will be extended into future development
areas, and what the City's park system will be comprised of. To begin with, the
National Parks & Recreation {NPR) guidelines are used although some of the
descriptions da not fit Dublin. However, it is helpful to know how Dublin's park system
compares with the national standard to determine future plans for Dublin's parks. The
various park space designations are: regional parks/metro parks; community parks;
neighborhood parks; greenways and open space. Using those 5 designations,
Dublin's park system can be defined and tailored. Within those spaces, the density of
recreation development is defined.
Mr. Hahn noted that there are underlying policy guidelines that may govern the park
spaces. For example, one unwritten policy is that the City will not rent space in a
neighborhood park, but it will do so within a community park.
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Mr. Kline responded that the implication of that policy might be that the City would want
to place 3-season shelters within the community parks. These are popular with families
and organizations for group events.
Mr. Kline noted that in conducting the park assessment, the City's GIS department
provided base information, which was very helpful. After completing their study, they
were, in turn, able to provide additional information to the City for the GIS database.
Their study covered: groundwater, flood zone, soils, forest cover, scenic roadway
buffers, stream buffers, wetlands and species preservation. They compiled all the
information logistically for base mapping, which will allow the City to build up a data file
where all of the elements are layered in and ranked. That helps to create a composite,
which could enable the City to determine what areas should have the highest level of
protection and preservation and the least amount of development. Some of the report
may appear to be subjective, but the criteria is real and the report reflects sound land-
use planning.
Mr. Hahn stated that this information will be helpful in the future. Before future
development occurs, staff will have an understanding of how that parcel may fit into the
community's needs either from an environmental focus or what components in that
parcel complement surrounding land that is within the park system. One of the end
products of this Parks and Rec Master Plan will be that instead of the City following the
developer's lead, the developer would have foreknowledge of the City's expectations
for the land.
Mr. Earman reviewed the recreation programming analysis. In determining the level
and quantity of service to the community, the City is very reactive. It would be
preferable to adopt a more strategic approach in developing its program. The analysis
identifies the core program, staffing levels, management practices, and who is being
served.
Program methodology was evaluated with the intent of developing systems to facilitate
better management of the program and to meet national standards. This covers
creation and development, program evaluations, pricing guidelines, and cost recovery;
also, demographic trends, such as population growth and age group interest.
In evaluating opportunities far growth, staff is aware of the space limitations,
particularly at the Rec Center. Other aspects of the analysis include: assess
community needs, maximize services to core programming, analyze alternative service
providers, develop outreach programs, create new partnerships, and consider
additional recreation facilities. A community survey, somewhat similar to the survey
Community Relations conducts every 2 years, would be conducted to obtain valuable
community input.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher inquired if it could be incorporated into the existing
Community satisfaction survey.
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Ms. Brautigam responded that it could, but it is important not to make the survey too
long or it could discourage completion of the survey.
Ms. Salay inquired if the focus of the survey would be on future needs.
Mr. Earman responded that although the intent of staff would be to develop a 10-year
plan for the future, citizens respond according to their current needs. So, much like the
City's CIP, a long-range Parks and Rec Master Plan would need to be updated
regularly. It is important to realistically evaluate the space needs before planning to
construct additional space. The core programs should be consolidated, and ancillary
programs could be located elsewhere.
Mr. Keenan responded that there are many other clubs or fitness centers that are being
used by the community.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher noted that she thought the Master Plan was the product of the
assessment. Philosophically, she would like to know his view of the role of government
in providing recreational services to residents versus the rule of the community as a
whole to provide that. That component should be evaluated and recognized in the
master plan as opposed to strictly the government's role in the provision of these
services. She is concerned that the perspective will imply that the government must be
all things to all people.
Mr. Earman responded that the intent is to evaluate the service of all other
stakeholders. Duplicating efforts may not be a good thing. An example is the LifeTime
Fitness Center. Dublin did not view it as a competitor but a partner in the provision of
recreational services.
Ms. Salay responded that there are two types of clientele: one prefers community
services, the other prefers mare expensive or specialized services. If the City is turning
patrons away due to full programs, it is important to incorporate other services. Again,
if volume of use is an issue, it is important to limit the facilities to Dublin residents.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher agreed. To meet the needs of Dublin's residents, it has
become necessary to limit Dublin's facilities to residents, including corporate residents,
within Dublin's geographic boundaries, not the school district.
Mr. Keenan responded that perhaps it would be better to tier the fee structure.
Ms. Brautigam responded that a restructured fee schedule would be provided to
Council later this year.
Ms. Salay noted that would make the other facilities more attractive to residents of the
school district.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that she has been asked why LifeTime Fitness was not
situated more strategically within the community. She suggested that a news column
be written to explain the reasoning behind the strategic location of the various facilities,
public and private.
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Mr. Earman referred to the partnership opportunity with the Hilliard School District.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that is true. However, Hilliard is a very large school
district, and they face a challenge in providing services to their own residents.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher noted that she would be meeting this week with the principal
of the new Hilliard school within Dublin -- Washington Elementary School. The last few
months, they have been discussing the partnership needs with that school only. The
principal is agreeable to working with the City to address certain issues, such as the
Wyandotte camps.
Mr. Keenan stated that the new redistricting boundaries may impact this situation as
well.
Ms. Brautigam responded that the new boundaries will impact a couple of areas, such
as along Shier Rings Road.
Mr. Earman responded that it is possible to strategize and create a win-win
environment without impacting anything else in the City.
Mr. Keenan inquired which municipality would provide the DARE program to
Washington School.
Ms. Brautigam responded that Hilliard School District would do so.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that this would work only as long as there is
neighborhood districting.
Ms. Brautigam responded that the situation may change when Hilliard builds the
additional 6th grade school in that area. Dublin will need to make a decision on how it
wishes to deal with that school.
Mr. Keenan stated that it is a tax issue. Does Dublin place a police officer in every
school building?
Ms. Salay responded that they are placed only in the middle and high schools, except
for the DARE officers. They are placed in the elementary schools.
Mr. Keenan responded that if Hilliard places a DARE officer in Washington School,
Dublin may need to place a police officer there for other purposes.
Ms. Brautigam agreed.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that other models may be adopted in the future.
Presently, the taxpayer receives the value of his/her tax money. If the people served
are not Dublin residents, there may be some concern.
Mr. Keenan noted that part of the issue for Hilliard schools is their residential density.
Ms. Salay agreed. A recent report indicated that the City of Hilliard has the highest
birth rate in the State of Shia.
Mr. Hahn stated that it was his original anticipation that Dublin would need to identify
another land site for the location of future athletic fields. However, this analysis
indicates that the City's existing inventory has the capacity to meet future needs. Due
to the diversity of other recreational opportunities, both youth soccer and baseball
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project a flat future growth. This addresses the existing service program, not higher-
end, club programs. The lacrosse program is conducted at Emerald Fields, and the
soccer and baseball programs are conducted at Avery and Darree Fields. The youth
organizations are satisfied with the accommodations.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher responded that the arrangement does substantially involve
the use of school property.
Mr. Keenan inquired about the potential for use of Glacier Ridge Metro Park.
Mr. Hahn responded that the Metro Parks are not interested in having ballfields.
Ms. Salay noted that at one time Ohio Premier Soccer Club was interested in acquiring
their own facility.
Mr. Hahn responded that OP continues to work on that goal, as well as MOSSL. While
it is beneficial if a government entity provides the facility, they recognize the need to
fund their awn facility. It is difficult for a municipality to dedicate the level of resources
the clubs need, as the entire community does not benefit.
Vice Mayor Lecklider inquired from whom they would seek funding. According to the
existing agreement, the organization can collect a certain amount of fees.
Mr. Hahn responded that the recreational club had an agreement with the City
authorizing them to collect a field fee for a limited time. Once they reached a certain
amount, they were authorized to use the funds to build a concession stand at Darree
Fields. They no longer collect that fee.
Ms. Ott stated that OFC and OP collected the funds and turned it over to DSL. DSL
was the repository and responsible for any improvements to be made at either Avery or
Darree Fields. They no longer pay a field fee, only a management fee to DSL far
taking care of scheduling field times.
Mr. Reiner noted that he had a conversation recently with an engineer who asked that
he pass along his thanks to Council for providing a facility for the Columbus Cricket
Club in Dublin.
Mr. Hahn stated that they share the facility with lacrosse -when lacrosse season ends,
cricket begins. They play throughout the summer up to October. The cricket pitch on
the field is the only permanent installation, and it does not present a conflict in the
lacrosse field. They mark the remainder of the field with flags. The City provides only
the land itself.
Mr. Hahn stated that the remainder of the information addresses visualization of the
program, strategies and budget priorities.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher inquired when the plan would be finalized.
Mr. Hahn responded that it would be completed in 2007.
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Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher noted that if components of the project are to be included in
the CIP, the plan would need to be completed before the CIP hearings later in the
summer.
Mr. Hahn responded that the entire plan would not be finalized, but certain items that
reflect both the Parks & Open Space Plan and Council goal-setting would be ready for
CIP review.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that it is important to place a higher priority on the
completion of Dublin's bikepaths over ensuring connectivity to outside bikepaths.
Mr. Hahn agreed. When staff looks outside Dublin's borders, it is to better to
understand the strategies of other entities and perhaps be of help to them. Staff
member, Laura Karagory attends GreenWay forums, which consists of strategizing
about bikepaths in ways other than financial.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher noted that she is surprised that federal funds are not available
for regional bikepath development. Another item important to pursue is the use of
school buildings in all off hours. Historically, when communities focus on ways to meet
their needs, they utilize the school buildings, which everyone has paid for. It is more
efficient to pay for upkeep and maintenance of those buildings than to build more
buildings.
Mr. Earman responded that the plan does address the need for a joint use agreement
with the school district to clarify how those buildings may be scheduled. Currently, the
arrangement varies between schools due to the school principal's individual
preferences, and the City is often a lesser priority.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher stated that 24-hour usage should also be pursued when
possible. The LifeTime Fitness facility is open 24 hours/7days a week and their
classes are free, which makes the fee very reasonable.
Ms. Salay noted she is aware that the master plan completion deadline is not specific,
but will it be completed some time in 2007?
Mr. Keenan stated that the CIP review is in August and the budget hearings are in
November, so he would assume the plan would be completed by November 2007.
Mr. Hahn agreed.
Ms. Salay stated that the land use portion of the program would be ready for the
Community Plan.
Mr. Hahn stated that it would. The two plans are complementary. Although the Parks
and Open Space Master Plan provides more detail, the Community Plan's land use
plan is the basis for many of the master plan's assumptions.
Ms. Salay stated that when the Community Plan is completed, Planning will have a
good understanding of the land that remains for development.
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Mr. Keenan stated that some developers have shared their suggestions/comments.
Would those be considered during this study?
Mr. Hahn responded that for this year's CIP review, Council has requested that staff
present them options for addressing projects in certain areas that will be the City's
responsibility.
Mr. Keenan stated that there are also some potential private/joint partnerships, such as
the piece across from Jerome High School that Stavroff Company has suggested for a
development of a basketball court.
Mr. Hahn stated that any type of facility would be used. The question is by whom, and
if that is Council's preferred direction. Today, that part of the plan is undecided.
Ms. Salay stated that one exception to Dublin resident usage of facilities is the Miracle
League field and playground.
Mayor Chinnici-Zuercher agreed, noting that it is named, "The Central Ohio Miracle
League Field."
The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
Clerk of Council