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ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE
Wednesday, May 1, 2024
4:00 p.m.
5555 Perimeter Drive
Council Chamber
Meeting Minutes
Ms. De Rosa called the May 1, 2024 Administrative Committee meeting to order at 4:00
p.m.
Committee Members Present: Vice Mayor Alutto, Ms. De Rosa, Ms. Kramb.
Staff Present: Ms. O'Callaghan, Mr. Hartmann, Ms. Delgado
Approval of Minutes
Ms. De Rosa moved to approve the minutes of the February 6, 2024, March 6, 2024, and the
March 28, 2024 Administrative Committee meetings.
Vice Mayor Alutto seconded the motion.
Vote: Ms. Kramb, yes; Vice Mayor Alutto, yes; Ms. De Rosa, yes.
Items for Discussion
Advisory Committees Duties and Powers
Ms. De Rosa introduced the topic by stating that the number of Advisory Committees has
grown from 1 to 4 in the last few years. There has been a substantial amount of work done
to put some structure around the new groups including rules of order, onboarding, training,
etc. There have been requests to provide some insights into their roles and responsibilities.
Ms. O'Callaghan stated that staff has been making great progress in partnership with the
Clerk’s Office to get more consistency and organization around advisory committees. There
has been great discussion in advisory committee meetings, and staff has taken a hard look
at minutes, agendas, referrals, how topics get on agendas, etc. Staff has fielded questions
form members both new and more experienced. They all want to make sure they are
following process and meeting Council’s expectations. Ms. O’Callaghan noted that she has
engaged the Legal Department and Mr. Hartmann has attended a couple of advisory
committee meetings.
Ms. Kramb asked if agendas are being published prior to the meetings and who is
developing them. Ms. O'Callaghan stated that each committee has that handled differently.
The Community Services Advisory Committee (CSAC) is the most established. They have a
process whereby items are specific referrals from Council. Staff also identifies opportunities
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where it would be beneficial to get feedback from CSAC prior to taking an item to Council.
There are pre-agenda meetings with the chair and vice chair of each committee. Ms. Kramb
inquired if since January, there have been published agendas. Ms. O’Callaghan answered
in the affirmative. She stated that staff is looking at making sure each committee is staffed
with the same level of support.
Mr. Hartmann provided an overview of a draft Legal memo concerning Duties and Powers
of Advisory Committees. There was the mistaken idea with some of the committees that if
they voted to recommend something that Council would have to consider it. That is not the
case. The advisory committees’ authority is compelled by City Council action. Council
passed legislation and staff now reviews that legislation and helps direct the committees.
Ms. De Rosa suggested that it might be helpful to state that Council has both decision-
making boards and commissions and advisory committees. The point is to provide as much
clarity and background as possible. Mr. Hartmann agreed. All the bodies have enabling
legislation that outlines that. Ms. Kramb agreed. She stated that she is glad to see in Section
2 a date of 2023 is listed so there is a clear starting point.
Ms. O'Callaghan stated that she and Mr. Hartmann have attended and discussed this topic
with the Community Inclusion Advisory Committee (CIAC) and Community Advisory
Commission (CSAC). They are scheduled on the agenda for the upcoming Veterans
Committee meeting and the upcoming Chief's Advisory Committee meeting. Ms.
O'Callaghan stated that there are opportunities where clarification could be added where
the roles clearly differ. Ms. De Rosa reiterated the point is to provide clarity.
Mr. Hartmann noted that one of the committees is not codified. That may need clarified.
Vice Mayor Alutto stated that she would be concerned about the ability to create an advisory
committee on a temporary basis and not codify it. Mr. Hartmann stated that Council still
has the ability to create task forces.
Ms. De Rosa stated that in addition to duties and powers, there are a set of very useful
items in the Code of Conduct form that are equally important. Mr. Hartmann stated one
caveat is the need to be cognizant of anyone’s first amendment rights. The Code of Conduct
could be referenced and added as an exhibit to Legal’s Memo on Advisory Committees.
Vice Mayor Alutto referenced the 4" bulleted item from the bottom on the Code of Conduct
and suggested it read “personal and/or financial interest”. Mr. Hartmann stated that the
courts would read that very narrowly. Consensus was to clarify that point. Vice Mayor Alutto
confirmed everyone signs the Code of Conduct again with each new term. Ms. De Rosa
stated that it would make sense to update the Code of Conduct along with the Rules of
Order.
After referencing different bullet points, the suggestion was made to number the items on
the Code of Conduct form. After a brief discussion about creating separate forms for
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advisory committees, Committee consensus was to keep one form for all appointees. Ms.
Kramb suggested amending the ninth bullet point to clarify that each member represents
only themselves as private citizens. Mr. Hartmann suggested adding “committees” to
boards and commissions.
Mr. Hartmann continued reviewing the advisory committee memo. He referenced Section
3 and stated that this section was intended to clarify that advice of a committee does not
have to be taken by Council or staff. It is for Council to determine upon which items action
should be taken. Ms. Kramb suggested changing “on important topics” to “on topics within
the body's purview”.
Mr. Hartmann stated that Section 4 provides relevant Code sections all in one place for
reference. He noted that CSAC has the authority to create their own task force. That would
require Council approval. Ms. De Rosa stated that Council approves and determines the
timeframe of any ad hoc body so that it terminates when its work is complete. Mr.
Hartmann explained that can be done by motion and it would not require a resolution.
Mr. Hartmann confirmed that staff will bring the memo back for the Committee to review
at their next meeting.
Ms. De Rosa stated that there has been discussion concerning decision-making groups,
advisory groups and advocacy groups. Advocacy groups are different from advisory groups.
Dublin does not have advocacy groups. Mr. Hartmann agreed that could be a clear
distinction to draw. Vice Mayor Alutto stated that while free speech cannot be stymied,
there is a time and place for it. As a professional standard, we do not expect appointees to
bring in their own personal advocacy. Ms. Kramb shared her preference for a more robust
description of advisory and less focus on advocacy. She feels a more comprehensive
definition of advisory is appropriate in this memo. Ms. Kramb stated that some topics can
be elaborated on in training/onboarding. Mr. Hartmann suggested that this memo is a great
first step and that Council may want to revisit the purview of each committee.
Ms. O'Callaghan stated that each committee has a staff liaison and it needs to be made
clear that they do not direct staff. Ms. Kramb asked if they can have staff bring a topic to
Council. Ms. O'Callaghan provided an example of the Veterans Committee directing staff to
survey businesses to see which business would participate in a discount program. That is
a heavy lift. Advisory Committees can advise the City Manager. If within her authority, she
can authorize follow-up items. If a request is within Council's purview, they will take it to
Council. Ms. Kramb stated that last year, City Council went through a process determining
how Council can generate ideas. Mr. Hartmann stated the advisory committees should only
generate ideas within the context of what Council has directed them to do. Ms. Kramb
stated that should be a training topic.
NEXT STEPS: Staff will bring back a revised memo to the Committee’s next meeting.
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City Council Rules of Order
Ms. Delgado stated that staff has identified a few housekeeping items for clean-up. Council
had an interest in possibly making changes to the Order of Business in Council's Rules of
Order. She is seeking direction from the Committee to see how flexible they want the
language to be. Staff can then work with Legal and bring back suggested amendments.
Ms. De Rosa referenced the Order of Business as outlined in the current Rules of Order.
She asked if changing the word “shall” would offer more flexibility. If Council chooses to
change the meeting order, it currently requires calling the question. She suggested that
the wording say, “the following items shall be included in a Council meeting, the order of
which may be determined by the Mayor.”
Vice Mayor Alutto stated that there is an agenda planning meeting and the determination
could be made at that time.
Ms. Delgado stated that there may be circumstances the night of a meeting that would
necessitate a change to the order of business.
Ms. Kramb asked if this level of specificity is required. Mr. Hartmann stated that most
municipalities do list the order, but there is no reason it must be listed. Mr. Hartmann stated
that it is for transparency. He cautioned the Committee against giving the authority to
remove items to one Council Member. The Committee agreed that the flexibility applies
only to the order of the agenda, not the content.
Ms. Kramb stated that it would better to be able to move items prior to a meeting for
posting purposes. Ms. Delgado stated that Swagit (streaming service) needs advance notice
of the agenda order. She added that it would be helpful to add wording explaining why the
order may be changed - possibly “for efficiency of City business.” Ms. Kramb asked about
posting a revised agenda. Ms. Delgado answered affirmatively. She would have to for the
benefit of the public and Swagit.
Mr. Hartmann suggested allowing three members of Council to change the order of the
agenda in addition to the Mayor. Ms. Alutto agreed and stated that was smart for future
planning, regardless of personalities.
Ms. Kramb asked if it is appropriate to add language on the agenda noting that the agenda
order could change. Mr. Hartmann affirmed that it could be noted on the agenda.
Discussion continued regarding citizen comments and meeting facilitation. Ms. Delgado
stated that any constraints would have to be enforced by the Mayor. That is the
responsibility of the facilitator of the meeting. Vice Mayor Alutto stated that she prefers the
order be at the discretion of the Mayor. It is not fair to allow residents to filibuster. She
supports the opportunity for public comments, but not at the expense of everyone in the
room.
Ms. Delgado suggested amending 9.02 to add language for residents/interested party
duties. There are other cities that do actually put language on their agenda outlining
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expectations of participating in a public meeting to ensure meetings are safe spaces for
everyone.
Ms. Kramb asked if the City currently has any guidance for the public. Ms. O'Callaghan
stated that staff is currently benchmarking that. Ms. Kramb suggested expectations be
made clear to participants. Ms. Delgado stated the Council Rules of Order need to address
how the body would handle it if someone did not meet those expectations. Ms. De Rosa
requested staff bring back proposed language to the Committee. Ms. O'Callaghan share
that staff has found through their benchmarking that many cities state
expectations/responsibilities of public participation in meetings. Ms. Kramb asked how it
has held up those municipalities. Mr. Hartmann stated that what can be prohibited is very
limited. He is hesitant to create something requiring a signature. Expected behavior is a
good idea. Ms. De Rosa suggested adding in the same section that Council is not
required/expected to respond. Ms. Kramb suggested language allowing the presiding
officer to call for removal in response to threatening/disruptive behavior. Mr. Hartmann
stated time could be an effective limit. Ms. De Rosa asked staff for best practices and
recommendations. Vice Mayor Alutto asked staff to include the form of government with
the benchmarking information.
Ms. O'Callaghan informed the Committee that there is an audio option with the speaker
timer.
In response to Ms. De Rosa’s question about providing a citizen comments explanation,
Ms. Delgado stated that it is stated on every agenda that citizen comments are for items
not on the agenda.
Ms. Delgado stated that staff will have recommended amendments to the Rules of Order
regarding work sessions and absences from work sessions, as they are not currently
formally excused.
Ms. Kramb stated that the Rules should clarify that public comment is not typically accepted
at work sessions.
Ms. De Rosa shared potential topics for the next meeting:
e B/C Recruitment - debrief
e Council Goals
e Council Rules of Order
e Advisory Committee Memo.
The Committee consensus was to schedule the next meeting for June 4 at 4:00 p.m.
With no further business to consider, the meeting was adjourned at 5:20 p.m.
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