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FINANCE COMMITTEE
Tuesday, October 24, 2023 — 4:30 p.m.
5555 Perimeter Drive
Council Chamber
Meeting Minutes
Ms. Alutto called the Finance Committee meeting of October 24, 2023 to order at 4:30
p.m.
Committee members present: Ms. Alutto (Chair), Ms. Amorose Groomes, Mr. Keeler.
Staff members present: Mr. Stiffler, Ms. Goliver, Ms. Hoffman, Ms. Gischel, Ms.
Goehring
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ms. Alutto moved to approve the minutes of the September 12, 2023 Finance Committee
meeting. Mr. Keeler seconded the motion.
The motion passed by the following vote: Ms. Alutto, yes; Mr. Keeler, yes; Ms. Amorose
Groomes, yes.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
2024 Hotel/Motel Tax Grant Review
Ms. Goliver provided background on the Hotel/Motel Tax Grant process. She explained
that the City levies a six percent hotel/motel excise tax on all overnight stays within City
limits for the purpose of providing revenue to enhance the City’s appeal to visitors and
tourists, and for the purpose of promoting and publicizing Dublin. City Council annually
budgets the greater of $225,000 or 6.5% of the previous year’s actual revenue for the
grant program.
Beginning in March, staff and the Finance Committee began discussing the grant
application evaluation process. Ms. Goliver reviewed the criteria, priorities, and
limitations of the program. Much of that is the same as in years prior.
Ms. Goliver explained that, in order to provide transparency to the applicants,
information was posted at the City’s website and mentioned to applicants to let them
Know that these items could be taken into consideration. The organization receiving the
grant funds must be the organization that expends the dollars. A consideration would be
that the organization is not funded through other City funds. Funds must be utilized for
a specific event/project. Organizations are encouraged to display an ability to match at
least 25% of the awarded grant funds.
Ms. Goliver stated that all applications received were scored using both Options 1 and 2.
Option 1 is the combined rubric for sports tournaments and community events or
projects.
Ms. Alutto asked if the City received feedback from potential applicants on the new
information posted. Ms. Goliver stated that originally yes, but staff clarified the intent
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and that the considerations were not hard and fast rules, and everyone was still
encouraged to apply.
Ms. Goliver explained that Option 1 takes into account Quality of Life, Social and Cultural
Resilience, Fiscal Sustainability, and Event Financial Sustainability. Staff appreciated
having the ability to show clear designations. Using this option, a small committee of
staff members from economic development, events, and finance reviewed and scored
the grant applications. She shared those results with the Committee. There is additional
information on the master spreadsheet included with packet materials.
Ms. Goliver stated that Option 2 separated sport tournaments and community benefit
events/projects. The original discussion determined that sports tournaments were
somewhat easier to quantify the return on investment to the City. There would be a
formula for anticipated cost of City services plus the past year’s return; or anticipated
cost plus 50% of anticipated return to the City. Option 2 pulls out all sports tournaments
from the original rubric. The rubric would stay the same for community benefit events.
A final report will be required, which would verify that grantees executed on all of the
components identified in their application and would include information for 2025. This
would be included in the Committee’s packet in the following year’s request if filed. It is
S important that the City is reimbursing for what was requested. The report would
include information on attendance, hotel nights, and changes for next year.
Ms. Goliver stated that this year, the City received 24 grant applications including six
that have not received a grant in years past. Requests total $455,130. There is $225,000
budgeted creating a variance of about $230,130. If the Committee were to move
forward with Option 2, $63,720 would be granted to sports tournaments leaving
$161,280 available for distribution to community benefit events/projects. Staff is seeking
a recommendation from the Committee regarding which policy option to utilize for
awarding grants at the November meeting. Ms. Goliver noted that information has been
distributed to applicants regarding the November meeting.
Ms. Alutto asked if all sports tournaments would be receiving their full request. Ms.
Goliver stated that they would not necessarily receive the full request. Most applicants
asked for more than what the formula would grant them.
Mr. Keeler stated that the Committee is trying to decide if these two methodologies
match with the desired results, which would make the process less subjective. In the
past, the process began with the amount requested by the applicant. Based on that and
the budget, the process and outcome was nebulous. Later this year, it will be necessary
to determine actual numbers. There are actual numbers for Option 2 for sports
tournaments. It is important to see how the point system in the rubric applies to the
financial award. In Option 1, the total number of points scored for all groups was 432.
He proposed taking the points received and dividing it by points allowable to come up
with a percentage. For example, the Arthritis Foundation scored 26 of the 432 total
scored points, so they would receive six percent of the $225,000 available grant monies,
which is $13,500. That compared to their request is reasonable. Using the same
calculation for Ace Archery would grant them significantly more than Option 2 would
give them. Previously, the starting point was what was requested, not what the
community was receiving in return. No matter which option we adopt, there may be a
significant difference from what they have been receiving in the past, what they are
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requesting this year and what they will be granted this year. He has no problem with the
rubric or criteria. They now have to decide what method to use to translate the scores
into a grant award for the applicant.
Ms. Amorose Groomes agreed with Mr. Keeler. Rather than proposed hotel nights, the
previous year’s confirmed nights should be used. She does not think proposed hotel
nights hold much weight. Unless it is a new event, the point system has to consider the
previous year’s confirmed nights. It is important to have accurate data. An example of
applicants giving good data is the lacrosse boosters. Ms. Goliver asked if the Committee
would like confirmed night data for the community benefit events. Ms. Amorose
Groomes stated that her thoughts on community events are totally different. There has
to be a way to end City support of events that no longer need it. For example, she
believes that the Dublin North Market has the ability to raise sponsorship other than
from the City of Dublin. The City wants to be supportive and can offer in-kind services,
such as social media posts. She does not think the success of that event would depend
on a $50,000 grant from the City of Dublin. Having a three or five year grant end would
be appropriate. If an event cannot get off the ground and become sustainable in three
to five years, maybe it should not happen. ForeFest is a highly successful, well-attended
event. There are a number of these events that would not be able to be self-sustaining.
She would like to see a grant category have a planned grant end. JASCO should be able
to fundraise for their event. The City needs to be careful about supporting a specific
cultural event unless it is done for every cultural event request received. There needs to
be a path to self-sustainment.
Mr. Keeler stated that this committee did discuss establishing a grant timeframe limit
for groups. Nearly all of these groups receive outside funding for their events. Inherently
in this process, the City is supporting some group events and not others because they
have not applied. People need to know that this opportunity exists so that any group
can apply. The rubric and criteria make sense, but it would seem that there could be an
overlay that would apply to some of the groups that apply for grants year after year.
Maybe the first year, they receive up to 100% of their award, but year two it is 50%,
and year three it is 25%. The problem is deciding to which groups this would apply.
Ms. Alutto stated there is always a component that is not well measured by a rubric. If
the rubric was perfect, we would not need this conversation. There is some subjectivity
relative to what Council members see as important to the community that elected us to
these positions, so these conversations are necessary. Events like Dublin Market and
ForeFest have a self-sustaining component that should be considered. She also believes
decisions should be based off of previous years confirmed nights.
Ms. Amorose Groomes asked where the Historic Dublin Business Association came up
with 1,000 proposed room nights. Ms. Goliver stated that those are the numbers staff
was provided by them. Ms. Gischel stated that she is not sure proposed overnight stays
has even been taken into account in the past. Ms. Goliver stated that staff will ask for
attendance numbers for the Committee’s consideration at the meeting in November.
Ms. Alutto stated that the Committee needs to decide which Option to use.
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Mr. Keeler stated that he likes Option 2. For non-sports groups, there is no firm data on
overnight stays. Many sports groups have a history for reference. He thinks there should
be an overlay based on how long a group has been receiving funds for an event from
the City. Maybe those groups get a reduction in award to free up funds for other groups.
Option 2 uses the formula for the sports tournaments while the rubric is used for all the
non-sports groups.
Ms. Amorose Groomes stated that she likes separating out sports tournaments because
it is purely economic development that is funding the entirety of the hotel-motel tax
grant program. She likes that part of Option 2. She does not think those groups need a
grant limitation. The City should keep investing in these events if it is receiving an
economic return. For the community benefit projects, she is not necessarily supportive
of always awarding all of the money budgeted. True community events are different
from events that boost the sales of a company. For example, the Dublin Jerome
Homecoming Parade is a true community event. They likely do not have access to large
amounts of money; there is no marketing team. The Dublin Market is a huge revenue-
producing event. If an event is making money for the operator of the event, then at
some point, they have to fully own the event and should no longer be requesting a
grant.
Ms. Alutto stated events that are specifically and solely for the benefit of the community
meet the definition and purpose of this grant process. She does not want to lose sight of
the fundamental purpose of the hotel-motel tax grant process.
Ms. Amorose Groomes stated that she is not sure how to separate these types of
events.
Ms. Alutto stated when considering economic impact, the impact of patronization of
Dublin businesses was included as a consideration in addition to overnight stays. Maybe
that is the separation point. This tax grant fund was not established for the purpose of
providing financial assistance for for-profit businesses.
Ms. Goliver stated that the rubric is weighted. Economic Impact and Event Financial
Sustainability are weighted higher than Quality of Life and Social or Cultural Resilience.
One way to achieve this separation would be to weight Quality of Life and Social or
Cultural Resilience higher than Economic Impact and Event Financial Sustainability.
Weighting them differently would change the scores and show an emphasis on quality of
life.
Ms. Alutto suggested removing the patronization of Dublin businesses. Economic impact
was Originally designed to consider “heads in beds”. She has been on the Finance
Committee for eight years. It is appropriate to say that things do benefit private
businesses but maybe that is not a weight in the rubric. This intent of this tax grant is to
benefit residents not businesses.
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Ms. Amorose Groomes stated that it would be interesting to see how that suggested
change bears out. She is also interested in structuring a grant off-ramp or reduction in
points.
Ms. Alutto stated that true community events do not need an off-ramp. Ms. Amorose
Groomes stated that she is not sure how to differentiate those events, as the applicants
are all non-profit organizations.
Ms. Alutto stated that the Committee has recommended significant changes in the
process this year. There can be additional alterations. Previously, the Finance Committee
talked about handing this over to the Community Improvement Corporation but wanted
to decide on a review process. She suggested evaluating this year’s applications using
the rubric and formula as mentioned here and continue the discussion into next year.
She does not want to bog down the process. Sometimes changing too many variables
makes it difficult to identify what worked.
Ms. Goliver stated that staff is happy to add the number of years that grants have been
awarded into the master spreadsheet.
Mr. Stiffler stated that staff has heard some conflicting policy goals like wanting an off-
ramp while wanting to support community events. It would seem like some type of
budget limit may be necessary. For example, projects with a budget of under $20,000
would have a different set of rules from events with more financial resources.
Ms. Alutto stated that applicants submit financial statements with their grant
applications for events. They are all non-profit organizations. She proposed requesting
their 990 form. Ms. Goliver noted that those are required but have not been used for
award consideration. Total project budget has been used in the past. Ms. Alutto stated
that it could be unfair to require that this year because it has not been included in the
grant application process yet. She suggesting discussing a requirement for their overall
financials next year.
Ms. Amorose Groomes stated that in her opinion, this is Year One for everyone. If this
is what the Committee has decided to do, it should be communicated so that next year
is not a surprise.
Mr. Keeler confirmed that separating sports tournaments and using the formula as
presented is the Committee’s recommendation.
Ms. Alutto stated that the City has received a record number of grant requests this year.
Having the rubric and discussion regarding sustainability of larger events will help justify
the amount of money being awarded.
Mr. Keeler stated that the thought here and in the past was that the City wanted to
reward the groups that make the bed tax grant fund self-sustaining. The community
groups do not generate overnight stays but still benefit the community. It is preferable
to incentivize groups to have events that encourage attendees to stay overnight.
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Ms. Amorose Groomes stated that progress has been made, but the grant process is not
yet where it needs to be. She suggested evaluating the results out of this grant cycle.
Mr. Keeler agreed.
Discussion continued regarding the importance of the economic impact of sports
tournaments.
Ms. Alutto summarized the Committee feedback as follows:
e sports tournaments to be considered separate;
e economic impact weight to be lowered for non-sport events; and
e previous year’s actual overnight stays to be used versus proposed overnight
stays.
Ms. Goliver clarified that utilizing Option 2, sports tournaments would not be evaluated
through the rubric but the proposed formula.
Mr. Keeler stated that with this method, an event with many overnight stays and one
with no overnight stays may end up with the same score due to benefit to community.
He wondered if this is the desired outcome.
Ms. Alutto responded that is a valid question. There is always a qualitative discussion.
Though we attempt to keep things proportional, some of the process is subjective.
Ms. Goliver outlined staff’s feedback from the Committee as follows:
e tournaments to be considered separate;
e community rubric be amended to increase weight of Quality of Life; and
e patronization of Dublin businesses be removed from the scoring rubric.
Ms. Alutto added the use of previous year’s actuals. Ms. Goliver stated that she will also
add the number of years the events occurred in Dublin to the master spreadsheet.
Ms. Alutto stated that she would like to ensure a recap discussion on intentions for next
year.
Ms. Amorose Groomes asked for thoughts from staff.
Ms. Hoffman stated that Ms. Goliver has put an enormous amount of work into this. She
thanked her for her efforts and agreed that community events should be supported by
the grant.
Ms. Alutto thanked Ms. Goliver for her work.
Mr. Stiffler stated that if Dublin receives the budgeted revenue for hotel-motel tax, there
will be an increase in this amount for the first time. It is difficult to be at zero percent
growth. If reasonable growth in this appropriation could be sustained, a rebalancing
could occur in the next three to five years as some events fall off.
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There being no further business to come before the Committee, the meeting adjourned
at 5:35 p.m.
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Chair, Finance Committee
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Dég uty Clerk of Council