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Public Services Committee
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 — 5:30 p.
5555 Perimeter Drive I
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Meeting Minutes
Ms. Fox called the October 13, 2021 Public Services Committee meeting to order
at 5:30 p.m.
Present: Mr. Reiner, Ms. Fox (Chair), Vice Mayor De •i
Staff present: Mr. Ranc, Mr. Plouck, Mr. Earman, Mr. Stanford, Mr.
Hammersmith, Mr. Anderson
Mr. Reiner moved to approve the minutes of the September 15, 2021 Publi'l
Services Committee meeting.
Vice Mayor De Rosa seconded the motion.
Discussion Items:
Mr. Earman shared the Parks and Recreation Master Plan Update with the
Committee. This was referred to the Public Services Committee in March and was
referred then to the Community Services Advisory Commission. He outlined the
meeting objectives as:
Provide s:• of the CSAC process;
Review CSACs recommendation,
Review recommended key components,
Invite discussion and input from PSC to determine a recommendation, next steps
Review Process & Recommendation
Three meetings were held covering each chapter of the Master Plan and all
action steps with a recommendation coming out of the September 14 meeting,
CSAC suggested sixteen areas for consideration. There were very interested in
recognizing the accomplishments of former plan. Public Engagement was a big
component and included the following: public forums, community surveys,
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stakeholder interviews, focus groups. They also gathered data through
conducting a trends analysis and benchmark analysis. The Commission also
believes the following is necessary for a comprehensive review: a natural
resources analysis, historical and cultural assessment, demographic analysis,
equity mapping, program assessments, park amenity and facility assessment,
DEI assessment, climate change assessment, current conditions and mitigation
strategies, overall community needs assessment
Mr. Earman stated that CSAC has recommended all of the above areas be
included in plan. This would require a consultant. A consultant will not make
decisions but will provide Staff with information allowing us to make decisions as
a community.
Mr. Reiner asked how Staff felt about the recommended areas of consideration.
Mr. Earman stated that Staff provided input when working with the Commission.
He shared that Mr. Ranc has experience with these and they feel this is a pretty
comprehensive list. There are subtitles that could go with items on this list and
could provide more detail, This covers everything from staff perspective.
Mr. Reiner asked about the timeline. Mr. Earman stated that they intend to soli
RFPs this year. Typically a plan of this size and scope would have a cost estima
of $175,000 and could be completed over the course of a year if it stays on trac
and we are aggressive, Mr. Ranc stated that the idea is if this is in the operatin
budget for 2022, Staff could get ahead of the game and go through the selectio!
process yet this year, and be in a position to hit the ground running at the
4eginning of the year spending 2022 focusing on this.
Vice Mayor De Rosa asked about the lifespan of the plan. Mr. Earman stated that
he would recommend a five-year plan. The last one was a ten-year plan. Society
and technology is changing and he feels it would be overstepping to go beyond a
ten-year plan. Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that some of these (like climate
change) may be farther reaching. She asked about benchmarking. Mr. Earman
stated that they benchmark against municipalities of like size anj with like
amenities and demographics (Westerville; Carmel, Indiana; some in Texas). Vice
Mayor De Rosa thanked Staff for providing other plans. They were good models.
She asked if park programming is part of this conversation. Mr. Earman
answered in the affirmative and stated that we do program parks and are looking
at general park use policy; i.e., if Riverside Crossing were to open today, we
would get a lot of requests for use to that. The City would need to have a policy
in place to state what kind of event can go on there, how to manage costs, etc.
Vice Mayor De Rosa asked if that is a separate project. Me. Earman stated that it
would be included. Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that may be one of the most
interesting questions moving forward. She thinks this is a great plan and is okay
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with it advancing. Mr. Reiner asked if Staff need a recommendation from the
committee. Mr. Earman stated that they would like the Committee to make a
recommendation to City Council to approve the update as planned. Council
would review and weigh in on areas of interest and then Council would approve.
Mr. Reiner referenced Riverside Crossing Park, and shared that in Milwaukee,
there is a park that had entertainment all of the time. Riverside Crossing Park
could become the place where there is always something happening in
downtown Dublin. He just went to the Arlington Art Festival and thinks it woul4
be cool to see Bridge Park become an event center. There is a fair amount of
living units close to
Ms. Fox asked for any objectives in the short term and if there was anything
immediate remaining from the existing plan. Mr. Earman stated that they need to
focus on • field space. • is coming to a bottleneck. Pickle ball is • very
hot topic. Lack of space is a hot topic. That will be in the needs assessment. Mr.
Earman stated that the City needs to make sure all voices are heard. Going into
that too rapidly makes him nervous. Ms. Fox asked about land acquisition and if
they should we be thinking hard about it. Mr. Earman stated that Staff is visiting
that topic relatively quickly. Land acquisition is tricky and needs to happen
strategically.
Mr. Reiner asked if there are grants for parks, sports fields, etc. Mr. Earman
stated that most grants are for land preservation, waterways, etc. He added that
underprivileged neighborhoods are more likely to get a grant for sports fields.
Ms. Fox stated that this is very comprehensive. She agreed with utilizing a
consultant. She stated that she would like to add some of the ideas coming out
of 2035. Really fascinatingly fun cities have festivals. She offered for
consideration who will be generator of those. It takes staff. Partnering could be
more successful. Ms. Fox shared the idea of a cultural arts center now as the
trend is that these centers have so much energy in them and not just art. She
asked about including questions into a general survey, Vice Mayor De Rosa
stated • there • so many questions that have to be asked, you many not
get the richness that we're seeking.
Ms. Fox stated that she does not want benchmark off of Westerville because she
feels Dublin is already are heads and tails above anyone in the area. She stated
that in choosing a firm, there are firms that really look outside the box and she
would encourage Staff to broaden their thought about who is hired. Mr. Ranc
stated that this will be the third is master plan he has been a part
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igreed about getting the right person on board. He stated that this is an E
instance where you get what you pay for which is why the budget is where it il
Mr. Ranc stated that these surveys really dig into parks specifics. They will make
sure this marries to the 2035 framework. They also do not want to have the
community confused. Mr. Reiner stated this will be the elite best plan. He stated
that they want the most clever firm. Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that there are
some innovative things going on. She asked if there are some dollars budgeted
to go and see different things/examples. She added that because of video
capabilities, there is no reason they can"t bring examples in. She stated that
Rotterdam in the Netherlands is doing some wonderfully interesting things. Mr.
Earman stated that they did not include travel in the budget. This is just for the
consultant.
Mr. Reiner asked who controls the bridge. Mr. Earman stated that the City has
purposefully not engaged in ideas for using the bridge for activities because it
blocks traffic and is a very difficult thing to block. Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that
she saw a photo shoot happening on the bridge so activities are happening
there.
The Committee agreed to recommend the project move forward to Council for
further discussion.
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Mr. Stanford stated that the water and sewer extension discussion was referred
to this Committee by Council, it was discussed at the August 23, 2021 meeting,
and they are is to provide an update. He shared that Staff's intent is to bring
this
is in early 2022 upon completion of the household sewage treatment
system (FISTS) risk assessment.
Mr. Stanford reviewed a list of questions posed by the Committee and shared
Staff responses.
The Committee requested an updated presentation that included the cost of
connection to homeowners. This was provided through BoardPaq on August
24,2021.
The Committee requested inclusion of typical costs of construction and
connection to homeowners. This was included in communications with
residents in the upcoming Area 1B sanitary sewer extension project area.
They are very well informed about what their costs will be.
The Committee previously requested information regarding the number of
people interested in connecting to upcoming utility extension projects. Staff
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surveyed residents in Area 1B. 23 letters were sent and 18 responses were
received. Of the 18 responses received, 13 indicate intent to connect (72%
of received); 1 indicated the intent to connect within five years; 3 indicatei
that they did not intend to connect;
The Committee requested information on actual connections to completed
projects. Mr. Stanford displayed a chart showing the number of potential
connections, the number of connections, and the connection rate
(percentage).
Mr. Reiner asked how these areas fit with actual piping in place. Mr. Stanford
stated that this represents properties where the lines are in place. Ones not
connected its could connect tomorrow because the service line is there. Mr.
Reiner asked if this is a systematic connection. Mr. Hammersmith stated that
these areas were laid out to have complete service. There was either a sewer
lateral or water service run to the right of way. There is a complete system
available for those property owners to use. These are completed, finished
projects. Mr. Hammersmith stated that the concern is running pipe to people that
do not want to connect. Mr. Ranc explained that water lines cannot be run that
are not going to be used because they must be pressurized. Staff is coming here
to look into potential aftematives and phasing and sequencing to get people to
connect. Mr. Ranc stated that they are looking at developing ways of
incentivizing people to connect and Staff is looking for the Committee's
recommendation on how to move forward.
[Tir. Reiner asked if the City would want some real commitment before moving
forward. Mr. Hammersmith stated that with regards to water lines, there has to
be commitment before the pipe is installed.
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Mr. Stanford shared an analysis of completed projects over time since 2017 for
both sanitary sewer and for water.
In response to a prior request from the Committee for an updated health risk
assessment of the HSTS, Mr. Stanford stated that Staff has reached out Franklin
Soil and Water Conservation District as well as Franklin County Public Health.
They will begin that assessment in late 2021/early 2022 and will have it back to
Dublin in the first quarter of 2022.
VFW, Stanford stated that the Committee requested public construction costs of
extension projects per household, per business, and per parcel. He provided a
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chart showing detailed costs analysis. The shaded rows have actual cost data
and the rest are estimates.
Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that this cost per parcel assumes 100% connecting.
At the current adoption rates, these costs are significantly more than what is
listed. This chart needs a column at current adoption rates. Mr. Stanford statell
that they also provided average cost per house, business, or parcel. He stated
that there is a range of actual cost from approximately $54,000 to $64,000 per
home. There are more vacant parcels than
Vice Mayor De Rosa asked what Dublin's current connection cost is. Mr.
Hammersmith stated that it is around $3,000 for Dublin's piece. Vice Mayor De
Rosa stated that it would be good to include that and Columbus' costs along wi
anything additional that the homeowner would have. The math then is so simpl
You would have to go back and reimburse people that have already paid. This
makes this conversation easier from a taxpayer perspective. The City is saving
$100,000 rather than giving away $20,000.
Mr. Reiner asked how many of the vacant parcels will develop and noted that
those drive up the cost.
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to this chart will be helpful. She referenced the letters sent out and asked if Sta
received information on why people want to connect or why not. Mr. Stanford
stated that none indicated why they would like to connect. One resident
indicated that they did not want to connect because their existing system had
been checked and was in good working order. Ms. Fox stated that if Staff
leveloped a letter with multiple-choice questions, they may get more rich data
2nd could help market this.
In response to Mr. Reiner's question, Mr. Stanford reiterated that the HSTS
assessment will start late this year and Staff will have that back early next year.
Mr. Reiner stated that information will help him make a decision.
Mr. Stanford continued with financing/funding options.
- State of Ohio Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Grant Program provides
$250 million for projects in Ohio. Each community was able to provide
applications for funding. Dublin has submitted nine projects for
consideration. Area 1B was included in the submissions. If grant funding is
received, that will free up additional funds for these unserved areas.
Household connection is eligible for reimbursement. In response to Ms. Fox's
question, Mr. Stanford stated that this is brand new this year. It is tied to
Covid relief funds. The Ohio Department of Development delegated counties
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to come up with their list of top 10 priorities within the county. That is part
of the scoring criteria. Almost all of Dublin's projects were in Franklin County.
The guidance Staff received was to pick the county where there was the
most work.
Water Pollution Control Fund through Ohio EPA that is a revolving fund
designed to create low-interest rate loans and other forms of assistance. It is
administered by the Ohio EPA Division of Environmental Financial Assistance
and they create a project for every listing each year in late summer. Staff will
continue to explore available funds. Summer of 2022 is when we will have
the next availability to apply. They can offer low interest rate loans to
homeowners to repair/replacement for homes with failing systems. This is
tied to Franklin County Department of Public Health. The only people that
can apply are individual county health departments. In 2021, Franklin County
did submit and were awarded a loan. Those are all low-interest loans. Staff
will continue to investigate.
*ther Funding Opportunities:
1. Waiver of all City of Dublin Connection Fees (currently 50% for first
two years);
2. Extension of fee waiver time period (currently two years from
completion of project);
3. Potential low interest loans for homeowners for their connection costs
(complicated but does exist in other areas);
4. •t of a special improvement district.
Mr. Stanford closed by stating that Staff intends to return in early 2022 with
results of Risk Assessment. Once Staff has that, they would like to finalize
discussions and receive recommendation from the Committee and Council on the
policy and any new prioritizations.
Mr. Reiner asked if sewer is at road grade and if that is why a lift station is
necessary. Mr. Hammersmith stated that lift stations are designed to collect low-
lying areas along the river.
Tice Mayor De Rosa asked how much of this is in the 2022 CIP. Mr.
Hammersmith stated that a lot of these projects were deferred until they had
this discussion.
Tice Mayor De Rosa asked if it is feasible to have a discussion with Columbus
regarding their relative fees, If Dublin decides that it makes good sense for
Dublin to waive their own fees but it is still the lesser of the fees. Mr.
Hammersmith stated that he can have that conversation but a good share if that
is built in plant capacity. He stated that Staff is going to revisit our capacity fees
because they have not increased in six years but the water rates have changed.
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Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that Dublin could waive their fees and find that it
didn't do anything because the bigger portion is still there. We are trying to
remove the barriers. Mr. Ranc stated that Staff want to get the Committee all t
information needed and ideas beyond the obvious funding solutions. Vice Mayo
De Rosa asked what the real costs for Columbus are versus their "fees". I
Ms. Fox referenced 4B and 4C, and stated that the cost per home would be
$146,000 if everyone would have connected, instead, it was $252,000 per house.
She stated that the costs have to be affordable in a variety of ways/offer a
variety of incentives. She stated that we have to market the health aspect. It
might be easier to sell with grants and a variety of incentives. Homeowners may
be encouraged to connect if thee know someone is going to examine their sewer
system every three years. If there is a policy for inspections, it might be another
motivator. Ms. Fox suggested waivers of 100% in the first year, 85% the
following year to incentivize earlier connection. She also suggested an
,2,ssessment on taxes.
Mr. Reiner asked about zoning for areas putting in septic systems. Mr.
Hammersmith stated that it is based on soil type, acreage, bedrooms, lot size,
and area needed to install the system. It is now a mound drip system. Septic
tank and leach is not permitted. That requires a large footprint and a seconda
location on site as well. Mr. Reiner asked if that affected vacant lots. Mr.
Hammersmith answered affirmatively stating that it would make it difficult.
Vice Mayor De Rosa stated that this is a hard problem and she appreciates the
analysis and all the work.
Ms. Fox asked if failed septic systems can be replaced in the same place. Mr.
Hammersmith stated that a tank can the larger problem is if a leach field fails.
Ms. Fox stated that she would like to provide cost comparisons including what an
average cost to replace a septic system. She suggested a marketing pamphlet.
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the meeting
adjourned at 659 p.m.
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