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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Monday,, October 25, 2021 — 4:45 p.m.
5555 Perimeter Drive
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Mr. Reiner called the October 25, 2021 Community Development Committee meeting tt
order at 4:45 pm.
Staff present: Ms. O'Callaghan, Ms. Rauch, Ms. Noble, Mr. Stiffler, Ms. Blake, Ms. Gilger
Also present: Mr. Stang, Planning Next; Mr. Way, PZC; Mr. Kelley, Kelley a
Associates; Mr. Starr, Crawford Hoying, Mr. Seckel, Kelley/Weiler I
Minutes of the Mav 25, 2021 Meeting
Mayor Amorose Groomes moved to approved the minutes of the May 25, 2021 CDC
meeting.
Mr. Keeler seconded the motion.
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Minutes of the August 24, 2021 Meeting
Mayor Amorose Groomes moved to approved the minutes of the August 24, 2021 CDC
meeting.
Mr. Keeler seconded the motion.
Ypor Amorose Groomes, yes; Mr. Reiner, yes; Mr. Keeler, yes
Metro Center Visioning
Mr. Reiner expressed his appreciation for the time and expertise of the members of the
Metro Center Visioning Team.
l"Tir. Stang provided an overview of where the group is in the visioning process. He
reviewed what was covered in the foundations workshop and shared the focus for this
evening's discussion: themes and structure. There will be an additional workshop
following this one.
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Area Plan (DCAP) and help pave the pathway to reshape the district into the future by
guiding future character and initiatives. This can be an opportunity to build something
unique within the center of the City; the opportunity for a catalytic project on Frantz
Road. The themes come from stakeholder interviews, benchmarking, and conversations
with this group. The three themes are as follows:
1. Sustainability/Resiliency
2. Lifestyle/Entertainment
3. Cultivation/Exploration.
Mr. Stang shared the principles considered essential for the success of Metro Center.
These were identified in DCAP in some way.
1. Increased density and intensity of development
2. Variety of new diverse housing types for the City
3. Amenities (restaurant and retail) complementing the district
4. Consolidate surface parking for redevelopment opportunities
5. Open space areas and/or greenways connecting the district
6. Pedestrian connections, sidewalks, trails, and alternative transportation that link
to the citywide system.
Mr. '11,�ay asked about consolidating surface parking for redevelopment opportunities.
Mr. Stang stated that each property operates with its own surface parking lot. They
would recommend promoting shared parking as well as infill development in
underutilized areas. Some surface lots are only used a limited amount. They will look at
how to promote shared parking across developments versus each individual site having
their own. Mr. Way stated that this does not go far enough. Other mobility options
should be considered over consolidating parking. Mr. Stang stated that they can look at
the next stage of mobility in the area.
Mr. Reiner stated that he is wondering about the amenities and the "wow factor"". Mr.
Stang stated that the themes will help move this forward. Mr. Way referenced the
amenities and stated that it should not just be restaurants and retail. It would be nice
to have language regarding other amenities. Mr. Stang stated that is what is going to
be discussed within each of the themes. Mr. Reiner stated that the question is why
would someone want to move here. As long as cash flow is coming in, business owners
are not going to want to tear those down.
Mr. Stang stated that each theme has a central statement and four supporting
principles.
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Sust.3inabilitylRe5ffiency
Mr. Stang stated that the idea within this theme is an opportunity to pilot new
initiatives, the relationship between nature and stormwater development to create a
unique environment. This is supported by next generation stormwater systems that
blend the natural environment with water treatment. Urban farming is listed as a
supporting principle. Community gardens could become a possibility. Building materials
can be considered in a new way. There could be opportunities for renewable energy.
From a character standpoint, they would encourage buildings be brought up to Frantz
Road and promote mixed-use development and different housing types. Stormwater
could become more of an amenity for the area. He shared a rendering of how each of
these ideas worked into the site. Mr. Kelley asked about the linkages for surrounding
properties. Mr. Stang stated that they identify a number of new road connections that
could be proposed. There are a number of pedestrian connections as well.
Mr. Way asked if the language could be changed to water management instead of
stormwater management in order to not be limiting.
Mr. Keeler asked about the dashed lines on the drawing. Mr. Stang explained that those
are potential connections for a water management stream connection. It could be a lazy
river or a kayak river.
LifestylelEntertainment
Mr. Stang stated that this theme focuses on providing all the live/work/play within th
district itself and providing new attractions for profession and personal life within
walkable distance. This theme is supported by building attractions that have aregionI
draw. Another principle is looking at leveraging multi -use centers that provide year
round activities. It also speaks to blending housing and workspace that offers flexibili
for co -working with the comfort of personal services. He shared a visual for how that
would work within the site.
Mr. Reiner stated that the repurposing of drainage patterns looks like a m,'
of the San Antonio Riverwalk. It 'is a nice amenity. The thing that wouldn't work is
making it an events center because of the parking. Mr. Stang stated that there are a lot
of similarities between this and Bridge Park. We want to develop unique identities for
each of the areas and not just build a Bridge Park here. Within all of these, there are
,2spects to pull to develop what is unique to Metro Center.
CultivationlExploration
Mr. Stang stated that this theme is building off of entrepreneurial spirit but building new
innovations that line up with business growth. It looks at continued industry growth and
providing makerspaces for growing artists to showcase the diversity of the community
overall. A principle is technology piloted in a self-contained district. This can be an
opportunity to test these within a metro loop.
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Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if he envisioned single tenant spaces. Mr. Stang stated
that he sees the opportunity to encourage multi -use spaces or to at least have the
flexiR ility to be converted to fit the needs in the future. Mayor Amorose Groomes stated
that it is important to maintain a lot of these spaces as revenue generators. This has
been a tremendous revenue generator for in excess of 40 years and continues to be so
today. She is interested in the updates and making it more green. The pandernic has
shown that every place is live/work. She is not sure Dublin can continue to add
amenities in every nook and cranny in the City. She is interested in how the water
moves around the site. In these diagrams, there is urban farming. She stated that she
does not know if this is the place for that. While some outdoor spaces are desirable, we
do not want to recreate parkland in here. There are a number of places in close
proximity that offer that. She stated that she would want to try to not be all things to all
people.
Mr. Keeler noted that economic development is the number one goal to pursue. The
amenities being presented would be alluring to businesses. It is a balance. While we
dont want to turn the whole thing into a park, we have to figure out what amenities
make sense.
Mr. Way asked if this is intended to be an incubator and is in competing with the west
innovation district. He considered whether this could be an incubator for the west
innovation district. Stang stated that it is offering the opportunity to stay within Dublin
and is offering different tiers of business growth.
Mr. Starr stated that he does not want to limit what could happen. This does have to
have a theme that is different than the rest of central Ohio.
Mr. Reiner stated that the idea of the water courses running through this is interestin
Dublin does not have any accessible water in Dublin. In Europe there was significant
effort to repopulate urban corridors. They had an exposition, Internaclonale Garden
Ausstellung (IGA) that was very interesting. They provided amenities that made you
want to live there. He provided an example of a multi -sport facility where they had
equipment from around the world. I
Mr. Stang reviewed the Visioning structure itself. DCAP was built off of four pillars
supporting the vision. Mr. Stang provided images of Frantz Road streetscapes and cross
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images of what it looks like today and what it could look like, Illustrations show how
that embraces and attracts people into the area. Renderings demonstrate bringing
buildings forward to address the corridor itself. The drawings match the setback of the
closest portion on east side. There is the opportunity to set back an upper story. Design
is going to be a huge component of how this will interact with the right of way. The
plan will encourage public spaces in between the building and the pedestrian realm. Mr.
Stang shared visuals of housing character and some local examples of housing along
with examples across the U.S. He asked the Committee for opinions on building
character attributes.
Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that the most desired housing types are for empty
nesters and they do not necessarily want anything overly contemporary but more li
the high quality brownstone. She would like it to be of a more timeless architecture.
They would be adjacent to walkable districts. She does not think we need a whole I
more of what we currently have. I
Mr. Kelley stated that empty nesters and millennials are merging together. That is the
lifestyle people want these days and not exclusive to one demographic. He does agree
that they have to hit the empty nester market. Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that
most emails she gets relative to housing are people that want very high quality housing
that are very easy to live in. Even many millennials want it to be fairly quiet at night.
They want to experience a more urban environment but want to reside in a less urban
environment. Mr. Reiner spoke about housing on Gay Street near the cathedral as a
good example.
Mr. Reiner asked who did the sketches. Mr. Stang stated that they used an architectural
consultant. Mr. Reiner stated that he did a good job and painted a picture that they
needed to see.
Mr. Starr stated that people are willing to pay for high quality homes. That is a wide
thoroughfare. He asked if one of those lanes could flex to carry different modes of
traffic. He like the different heights, and density levels and could go either way. He
suggested that maybe they ought to figure out the big idea first. Mr. Keeler stated that
he could go either way with the scale. When it comes to height, if it is really tall, there
is still the curiosity factor. He is not afraid of going tall as long as the statement is a big
*ne. Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that she is not in favor of anything above three
stories because of the single-family housing across the road. She suggested there be
more density deeper into the development.
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the community. Businesses can come out and interface with it. The scale shown with
varying setbacks and heights is spot on. He would not be afraid of density and height,
They may have been a little urban.
Mr. Stang shared the next steps. He stated that they will develop •!'
recommendations, refine illustrations, and identify revised area plan recommendations.
Historic District Task Force Recommendations
Ms. Noble presented the Historic District Task Force Recommendations. This was before
the Committee in May 2021. At the Committees recommendation, the Fa�ade
Investment Program has been reinstated and its boundaries expanded to not only
include commercial but residential properties. Staff has been working with legal to
proceed with that.
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Ms. Noble explained that the Historic District Task Force was created in 2019 and
concluded in 2020 after a year process. The task force identified three objectives they
wanted Council to consider.
1. Creation of updated historic district area plan;
2. Consider management options for the historic district; and
3. Support efforts that lead to short term successes.
Ms. Noble stated that Staff is focusing on updating the 2007 Historic District Area Plan.
There are multiple tasks associated with updating the plan. Staff is seeking advisement
on various tasks that the Task Force highlighted. Ms. Noble reviewed the following list
of 12 task areas:
- Gateways
- Streetscape
- Parking
- Open Space and Parks
- Indian Run Corridor
- South High Street Vitality
- Diversity of Uses
- Preservation
- Proper Scale
- Connecting the District
- Wayfinding
- Arts and Culture.
Mr. Reiner stated that there has been discussion of using upper stories for other uses.
He asked if there was a conflict between that and preservation. Ms. Noble stated that it
wasn't that specific. A lot of that discussion would be very specific to the areas. The
idea is going up but only in areas where it is wise.
Mr. Keeler thanked the Task Force and Ms. Noble for working on this. A number of
these items are already in process. He referenced wayfinding and noted that he has not
seen QR codes implemented yet but would like to. At the cemetery and other
landmarks in the historic district, folks could scan a QR code and get information about
a specific property. Mr. Keeler noted that more consistent signage with gateways was
presented to Council. He stated that he is envisioning more than just signage. He
recommended tacking on to what Mr. Ranc is already working on. Mr. Keeler asked
about technology for parking; there was discussion about a specific app that identified
open spots. Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that it was going to be an app solution
that would inventory parking spots and revenue would be generated that would go to
property owners. That was one of the scenarios discussed but the businesses did not
want that. They would have to control the time and availability of their spots and they
didn't seem interested in participating in that. There was another attempt where there
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were shared use agreements where the City would come in and pave, put in lighting
and landscaping. The City would maintain the lots. This included the opportunity to
preserve a certain number of spots but the rest would be public parking. There seemed
to be no interest in that sort of relationship. There is such a diversity of ownership in
these buildings, they could not get everyone on the same page.
Mr. Reiner stated that he likes all the recommendations. They are all important. The
gateway features need to be significantly coot and memorable. The concept of widening
sidewalks is interesting. The City never built a parking garage because they found there
were 1,000 parking spaces in Historic Dublin. A lot of people could park in those spaces
if people would cooperate. Maybe now that there's pressure from Bridge Street they
may possibly be more interested. He referenced Arts & Culture and stated that he
thinks the frog is fantastic. He stated that nodes to put in small pieces of art can make
that an interesting corridor.
Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that she disagrees with banners. She would much
prefer hanging planters. Dublin already has banners up and down 161. She would
prefer to see planters than banners. Some of these do far more to make a place feel
high quality and engaging. Mr. Reiner agreed that baskets are better.
Mayor Amorose Groomes suggested waiting until the streetscape is done to focus on
the sidewalks.
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Ms. Rauch stated that this topic has been raised a couple of times. It was referred to
this committee in June. Staff has been looking at providing architectural expertise to
board and commission members as they are going through plan review. This will also
help to supplement staff review. Currently, there are design consultants that help with
project specific reviews. Staff did come benchmaorking looking at 20+ communities
around central Ohio and nationwide. The majority do not hire outside architectural
support. This is unique.
Ms. Rauch stated that Staff presented two options to Council. The first was looking at
subject matter experts to fill in gaps through consultation with professionals in
specialties. This option would be seamless with how they currently review plans and is
Staff's recommended option. The second option was to establish a Design Review
Committee to review development proposals across the City of Dublin. That committee
would be comprised of three members; two architects and one landscape architect.
Staffs recommendation was Option #1 and that was referred.
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Mayor Amorose Groomes also suggested going with #1 but would like the City to be
more intentional when advertising for Boards and Commissions. She stated that the
dialogue needs to continue that we are looking for expertise to donate to the
community and not just time. We really want a specialist or at least someone who has
familiarity with reading drawings. She is supportive of Option #1.
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the meeting w
adjourned at 6:24 p.m. I
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