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Home My WebLink About11/07/1983 67 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Med illg .,. M illutes of ~ National Graphics Corp., Cols.. 0, For!''' No, 1097 ~ 19 -- November 7, 1983 Held lc '-' lhe regular meeting of council was called P.M. with the following members present: Sutphen, Maurer and lhornton,Also present Manager, Mr. Smith, Law Director, and Mr. who was serving as Acting Clerk. to order by Mayor Lewis at 7:30 Amorose, Chambers, Headlee, were Mr. Sheldon, Village Strutner, Assistant Manager, r Mr. Amorose moved, seconded by Mrs. Maurer, to approve the minutes of the October 19th meeting. Vote on the motion waS unanimous for approval. Mrs. Headlee moved, seconded by Mrs. Maurer, to approve the bill listing. Mr. Chambers questioned the bill for electrical inspections, stating that he understood these inspections were noW performed "in house". Mr. Sheldon replied that they are done by contractural personnel. Mr. Amorose questioned the bill for tires for a police cruiser. Mr. Sheldon agreed that there seemed to be some confusion on the bill listing, but requested Council approval while he looked into the matter. Vote on the motion to approve the bill listing was unanimous. The Clerk read two (2) letters from the Dublin School Administration thanking Council and staff for their assistance in approving the vacation of High School Road. Ordinance No. 38-83 Said ordinance to rezone a B.397 acre tract of land along the east side of S.R. 745 and immediately north of B4 N. High Street from R-2 to CB was read for the third time. Mr. Halley, the applicant, requested that Council table the ordinance until the next regular meeting because he has only recently learned that the interior roadway of his proposed development for this tract will have to be elevated, and thus there are some previously unforeseen costs that will need to be studied. Mr. Chambers moved, seconded by Mrs. Maurer, to table this ordinance until the next meeting. Vote on the motion was unanimous for approval. Ordinance No. 44-83 Said ordinance to delete the Standard Construction Drawings from the Codified Ordinances was read for the third time. Vote on the ordinance was unanimous for approval. Resolution No. 15-83 Said resolution to delete Appendices A through U from Chapter 1115 of the Codified Ordinances was read for the second time. Resolution No. 16-83 Said resolution to repeal' Section 1103.03 of the Codified Ordinances was read for the second time. Ordinance 48-83 Said ordinance amending Ordinance 52-B1 (Compensation Plan) waS read for the second time. Ordinance 49-83 Said ordinance to adopt the procedure authorized under O.R.C. 3929.B6 to enable the Municipality to receive insurance proceeds as security for the repair or removal of fire damaged structures was introduced bY Mrs. Headlee and read for the first time. Mr. Smith explained the purpose of this legislation and answered several questions posed by Council members and members of the audience. Mrs. Headlee moved, seconded by Mrs. Maurer, to dispense with three-time reading rule and pass the ordinance as an emergency. Vote on the motion and the ordinance was unanimouS for approval. ,.- -- ....... -... _<~~"-~~,,,,"~Illl. 43 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Meelil,g M i/lutes of ~ National Graphics Corp., Cols" O. Form Nc. 1097 ~ ===--- November 7, 1983 19 Held Page Two ,. , \... Resolution No. 17-83 Said resolution congratulating the 1983 Dublin High School Boys Golf Team for winning the championships of the C8L, Double ~ Central District, and Double A State waS introduced by Mrs. Headlee and read for the first time. Mr. Chambers moved, seconded by Mr. Thornton, to dispense with the three- time reading rule and pass the resolution as an emergency. vote on the motion and the resolution was unanimous. Resolution No. 50-B3 Said ordinance enacting amendments to the 1983 Annual Appropriations (Ordinance 68-82) was introduced by Mr. Thornton and read for the first tim~Mrs. Maurer moved, seconded by Mr. Amorose, to dispense with the three-time reading rule and pasS the ordinance as an emergency. Vote on the motion and the ordinance waS unanimous for approval. Ordinance No. 51-83 Said ordinance to accept the lowest/best bid for two (2) new police cruisers waS introduced by Mrs. Headlee and read for the first time. Low bidder was 80b McDorman Chevrolet at $18,236.74 for two (2) 1984 Chevy Impalas. Mr. Chambers moved, seconded by Mr. Thornton, to dispense with the three-time reading rule and pass the ordinance as an emergency. Vote on the motion and the ordinance was unanimous for approval. Ordinance No. 52-83 Said ordinance to accept the lowest/best bid for a neW truck for the Maintenance Department was introduced by Mr. Sutphen and read for the first time. Low bidder waS Bob McDorman Chevrolet at $10,110.45. Mr. Amorose moved, seconded by Mr. Sutphen, to dispense with the three-time reading rule and pass the ordinance as an emergency. Vote on the motion and the ordinance was unanimous for approval. Proposed Force Main - Riverside Drive Mayor Lewis requested Mr. Sheldon to introduce this subject. Mr. Sheldon explained that over one (1) year ago the City of ColumbUS, because of sewage problems at their Zoo facility, had proposed running a sewer line across the bridge at O'Shaughnessy Dam and connecting same into our gravity fiow sewer system which terminates at our pump station on South High street. The sewage i" then pumped under the river into ColumbuS's trunk line on the east side. Mr. Sheidon had informed Columbus that prior to bringing that proposal to Village council, he would insist that ColumbuS would have to agree to pay: 1) the costs of increasing the pump sizes, and 2) pumping costs associated with the increased sewage flow into our pump station. Columbus has noW proposed an B" force main down S.R. 257 within State R.D.W. and to be tied into our present trunk line which terminates at 1-270 and Riverside Drive. ColumbuS has submitted these plans to Dubiin. Mr. Smith referred to our 1971 Sewer Agreement with the City of ColumbUS which states that within 30 days of submission of final plans for a connection of ColumbuS sewer lines to Dublin sewer lines, Dublin must either approve, or disapprove with reasons. There are other provisions in the agreement in need of clarification, e.g. it must be a connection of a sewer designed to serve a locale within the Dublin system area, i.e. tributary design area. The Zoo may be outside of said area. At the executive session earlier in the evening, Council directed Smith to meet with the Columbus City Attorney and report to Mr. Sheldon by the end of the week. Mr. Chambers then spoke and objected to the proposed location of the force main. He queried as to why residents who do not presently have sewer service would be bypassed. Or why not build the line down Sawmill Road? He suggested that the residents along Riverside Drive might be surveyed as to their desire for sanitary sewer service, and if they are in favor then Columbus could apply the cost of the force main toward a ,.- -..... ""... -.... I_-_.....""".""""""#t l~ ~_'i 49 '[ RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Meet ill'! Minutes of ~ National Graphics Corp" Cols.. O. Form No, 1097 ~ 19 Held November 7, 1983 P age Three ....... gravity flow sewer with Dublin and the residents contributing the balance. Lastly, he felt that if Columbus waS under an E.P.~. mandate to sewer the Zoo, perhapS we could assist Columbus in gaining an extension of time and the entire matter could be approached anew. Mayor Lewis responded that Columbus does not own R.O.W. on Sawmill Road north of 1-270. We have had discussions over the past 3 years with Columbus regarding the sewer problem at the Zoo. ~t the October 17th meeting the Mayor reported on a recent meeting with the Greater Columbus Oevelopment Council concerning the west branch sewer. We have not yet had an opportunity to resolve whether we can join with ColumbuS and approach E.P.~. to garner federal funding to combine with Columbus and Dublin funds to construct a gravity flow sewer to serve the entire northeast Quadrant. lhis is a difficult engineering problem as well. Lastly, Columbus has always recognized that this force main would be only a temporary solution until either a fully developed east branch or west branch sewer is completed. Mr. Chambers stated that he felt the Council should go on record as directing no one from the Village ~dministration sign the plan, and also take the time necessary to work out a solution. Several residents from Riverside Drive commented on the proposed sewer. Discussion continued with Mr. Lewis, Mrs. Maurer, Mr. lhornton, Mr. ~morose, and Mr. Sheldon all contributing. Mr. Chambers then moved, seconded by Mr. lhornton, to instruct the LaW Director to file a disapproval of these plans with the City of ColumbUS, and to request a timetable to work under in order to present alternatives and investigate the same. It is expected that the Village Manager and Mayor will lend the weight of their offices to the LaW Director's efforts. Vote on the motion. was unanimous for approval. ".. '- ".... Proposed Landscaping at the Water Tower Mr. ~morose and Mrs. Headlee felt that more specific landscape plans were necessary for this site. lhere was also concern that the Village comply with the Landscape Ordinance. Mr. ~morose moved, seconded by Mrs. Headlee, to direct the Village Manager to contract with a landscape architect to produce a formal landscape plan for the site. lhe cost for the service is not to exceed $200.00. Vote on the motion waS unanimous for approval. Mayor Lewis referred to a memo from the Village Manager regarding the Final ~udit Report on E.P.~. phase II Sewer Costs. Council concurred with the Village Manager's request to re-imburse the U.S.E.P.~. in the amount of $30,169.00 for overstated payments previously made to the Village under the grant. Mayor Lewis announced that Mrs. Headlee and he would act as a committee to screen applications for the Clerk of Council. Mr. Sheldon and Mr. Strutner will assist in this review. Council Roundtable Discussion .". Mrs. Maurer 1) Request that the published agenda for the next Council meeting include discussion of the Capital Improvement Program so that any public input can be obtained. 2) Is there any way to avoid future E.P.~. findings like the one earlier? Mr. Sheldon responded that the amount of any overpayment is not finalized until the final audit is completed, and that is usually several years after the project has been completed. -- r...l!'#II"'iC"~~jiIt'''''''''''''~'''~''''''- .".,"'....~~~< ,~""f~.....,..."""4 . ... r " \.... ,.... r, ........ _...-f .,~ 53 RECORO OF PROCEEOINGS Minutes of Meeting National Graphics Corp., Cols., Q. Form No. 1097 ~ ~ 19 Hehl November 7, 1983 Page four 1) Appreciates the start by the staff on Council's list of "blights and blemishes". Mr. 1hornton 2) What about the sewer grates on S.R. 257 that are causing problems at the entrance there to Village Square? Mr. Warner stated that since these grates are in the paved portion of the road, it had been believed that the State waS responsible. However, it has noW been learned that the State has abandoned maintenance of these structures, thus the Village will have to effect the required repairs. Mayor Lewis adjourned the meeting at 8:50 P.M. 'e~~j'.~" I Bill Listinq for November 7, 1983 fI"" Franks Nursery & Crafts Geo. Byers Sons police & Firemans Pension Fund Darby Sales The F lag Lady Columbus City Prosecutor Dublin Community Church W.W. Grainger Co. Automatic Data Processing Elder & Elder Capitol Business Forms Efficient Electric Co. ~ Jess Howard Electric Bee Line Aligning Cardinal Food Gallery Dublin Tractor Co. Bricker and Eckler Xerox Corporation Federal Supply & Equipment R.P.M. Maintenance Franklin County Sheriff Tri Village Decorating B.O.C.A. International Key Blue Print B.F. Goodrich Tires Chemlawn Ohio Elevator Inspection D&M Distributors Dean Burtanger Thomas Matheny Kelli Deliso Municipal Finance Assoc. Sheraton Westgate Wanda Scharf Softball Umpires Marianne Rennie James E. Cewis Central Ohio Inspection King Equipment Co. Ohio Bell The Electric Company ......,." Capital Insurance Group All Employees Prentice-Hall, Inc. Bird & Bull Engineers Key Blue Print Gordon Flesch Co. Federal Supply & Equipment Co. Flower Garbage Blue Cross Gordon Flesch Co. Columbus Dispatch Connolly Constr. Co. Columbia Gas ,...., ,."'" ""'''',;r,,,_~,,,..._~....~t 18.64 603.66 13,396.53 200.57 461.UU 60.00 12.30 28.84 77 .70 251.00 1,213.25 2,799.29 1,830.00 17 .80 46.67 125.85 865.56 48.40 5.27 458.33 80.00 72.44 120.00 7.00 350.28 1,521.00 75.00 35.96 28.44 95.00 366.00 53.00 48.00 25.00 700.00 70.00 350.00 737.10 54.46 934.93 2,967.78 57.20 26,787.33 51.54 353.20 39.20 165.32 62.21 6,776.00 3,934.60 650.00 115.92 20, 191 . 71 72.75 J.'i)1l#~'h._",-iA'o Grass seed for Cemetery Repairs to Cruisers Employers portion - 3rd quarter Film & flash cubes - police Village of Dublin Flags Prosecute Dublin cases Room rental for P&R classes Exchange compressor motor Payroll handling 4 tires for Cruiser No: 11 Tickets & forms - police Dept. Relocate siren, repair lights at Avery & Coffm~ Park s Install lighting at Scioto Park Alignment of Cruiser No: 10 Senior Citizens Luncheon Repair mowers & trimmers Glick Road Note closing Supplies & Copy charges Misc. parts - Maintenance Janitorial service & floor buffing Prisoner boarding Paint for Fire hydrants Membership for Engineer Blue pring reproduction Tires - Cruisers No: 10 and 13 Lawn Treatment - Muni Bldg. & Parks Elevator Safety inspection Spotlight for cruiser Mileage reimbursement Wash cruisers Dance Instructor Fall Conference - Fin. Dir. Reservation for Conference Special duty arm bands From Softball League fees Two Senior Citizens luncheons Mayors salary & meetings Electrical Inspections Parts for back-hoe All telephone service Muni Bldg, Parks, pump stations, Maint., tra1 lights Employees Insur. payroll deducts Salaries and Withholdings Training books - police Dept. Engineering Frantz Rd. extended Hand level for inspector Supply of copy paper Misc. parts for Maintenance Trash Collection - October Employees coverage Toner for Copier Ads for Cruisers and Truck Frantz Road extended Gas for 129 S. High & garage L. J!Il ,J.,.,'_.- _1 l"""f~,,,,,,,,,-,,,_,,,,,,,,,,''''''''''~''';'''-'';'''f.>jI!W4ilfi;'.''_..i,.._.. .JJJ~ f"" '--' Bill Listing for November 7, 1983 - page 2 National Graphics Hockaden & Associates Elder & Elder Tires A.D.S. Systems Mobile Oil Gingway Products Decker Construction Co. Best Paint Store Davey Tree Strawser Paving Co. Franklin Tractor Sales Wilt Auto Parts Ace Truck Body White Acres Implement Central Communications Mileage reimbursement A.D.P. Anderson Concrete American Aggregates Smith, Gunner & Hill Total "-"' ,.... ""''''''''~k'''''''~.''''''''''-''''''',""",,'_'''''',J_.1'I,,,,*_ 67.05 279.90 57.75 18.00 2,944.48 18.58 272,611.72 135.86 480.00 3 , 566 . 19 82.49 85.33 76.92 251.50 169.22 244.01 51.26 160.00 228.25 3,250.50 $375,248.04 Finance Director Supplies Stake & inspect - Frantz ext. Waterline Tire for Cruiser # 11 Repair Police Typewriter Gas for Cruisers & Trucks Parts to repair backhoe Frantz Road Boulevard Hydrant paint, Truck bed paint Trim trees in rights-of-way Final payment - Avery Park Parts for Tractor Parts for Cruisers & Trucks Bearings for truck Mower blades & sharpening Repair siren in cruiser Engineer and Inspectors Payroll processing - October For Monument bases - Cemetery Stone & Asphalt - Street repairs Law Director services ~"..~__.,r""'''''''C,~.. .. .......... ..~ ."~-"",,,"-'^,,'-"'" '. 8i11 Listing for November 7, 1983 F ranks Nursery & Crafts Geo. Byers Sons police & Firemans Pension Fund Darby Sales The Flag Lady Columbus City Prosecutor Dublin Community Church W.W. Grainger Co. Automatic Data Processing Elder & Elder Capitol Business Forms Efficient Electric Co. ;,N+it1< Jess Howard Electric Bee Line Aligning Cardinal Food Gallery Dublin Tractor Co. Bricker and Eckler Xerox Corporation Federal Supply & Equipment R.P.M. Maintenance Franklin County Sheriff Tri Village Decorating B.O.C.A. International Key Blue Print B.F. Goodrich Tires Chemlawn Ohio Elevator Inspection D&M Distributors Dean Burtanger Thomas Matheny Kelli Deliso Municipal Finance Assoc. Sheraton Westgate Wanda Scharf Softball Umpires Marianne Rennie James E. I_ewis Central Ohio Inspection King Equipment Co. Ohio Bell The Electric Company iJIIIII>jlJ-' Capital Insurance Group All Employees Prentice-Hall, Inc. Bird & Bull Engineers Key Blue Print Gordon Flesch Co. Federal Supply & Equipment Co. Flower Ga rbage Blue Cross Gordon Flesch Co. Columbus Dispatch Connolly Constr. Co. Columbia Gas _. rlM_ ilL---J_Iill",,",~)-'-<=-" 18.64 603.66 13 ,396.53 200.57 461.UU 60.00 12.30 28.84 77 .70 251.00 1,213.25 2,799.29 1,830.00 17.80 46.67 125.85 865.56 48.40 5.27 458.33 80.00 72.44 120.00 7.00 350.28 1,521.00 75.00 35. 96 28.44 95.00 366.00 53.00 48.00 25.00 700.00 70.00 350.00 737.10 54.46 934.93 2,967.78 57.20 26,787.33 51. 54 353.20 39.20 165.32 62.21 6,776.00 3,934.60 650.00 115.92 20,191.71 72.75 GrasS seed for Cemetery Repairs to Cruisers Employers portion - 3rd quarter Film & flash cubes - police Village of Dublin Flags Prosecute Dublin cases Room rental for P&R classes Exchange compressor motor Pay roll handling 4 tires for Cruiser No: 11 Tickets & forms - police Dept. Relocate siren, repair lights at Avery & Coffm. Park s Install lighting at Scioto Park Alignment of Cruiser Nq: 10 Senior Citizens Luncheon Repair mowers & trimmers Glick Road Note closing Supplies & Copy charges Misc. parts - Maintenance Janitorial service & floor buffing Prisoner boarding Paint for Fire hydrants Membership for Engineer Blue pring reproduction Tires - Cruisers No: 10 and 13 Lawn Treatment - Muni Bldg. & Parks Elevator Safety inspection Spotlight for cruiser Mileage reimbursement Wash cruisers Dance Instructor Fall Conference - Fin. Dir. Reservation for Conference Special duty arm bands From Softball League fees Two Senior Citizens luncheons Mayors salary & meetings Electrical Inspections Parts for back-hoe All telephone service Muni Bldg, Parks, pump stations, Maint., tra lights Employees Insur. payroll deducts Salaries and Withholdings Training books - police Dept. Engineering Frantz Rd. extended Hand level for inspector Supply of copy paper Misc. parts for ~Iaintenance Trash Collection - October Employees coverage Toner for Copier Ads for Cruisers and Truck Frantz Road extended Gas for 129 S. High & garage "~,.",,,,,",,""Ij,,,,,,,,,;,,,,,,,,,'''-",,,~i'_;'''''''''- . ~ 8ill Listing for November 7, 1983 - page 2 ,... National Graphics Hockaden & Associates Elder & Elder Tires A.D.S. Systems Mobile Oil Gingway Products Decker Construction Co. Best Paint Store Davey Tree Strawser Paving Co. Franklin Tractor Sales Wilt Auto Parts Ace T ruck Body White Acres Implement Central Communications Mileage reimbursement A.D.P. Anderson Concrete American Aggregates Smith, Gunner & Hill Total --- ".... ...... - ""...->,.~--""",.""",,,,,,,""~#'II' ~_ 11 67.05 279.90 57.75 18.00 2,944.48 18.58 272,611.72 135.86 480.00 3 , 566 . 19 82.49 85.33 76.92 251.50 169.22 244.01 51.26 160.00 228.25 3,250.50 $375,248.04 Finance Director Supplies Stake & inspect - Frantz ext. Waterline Tire for Cruiser # 11 Repair Police Typewriter Gas for Cruisers & Trucks Parts to repair backhoe Frantz Road Boulevard Hydrant paint, Truck bed paint Trim trees in rights-of-way Final payment - Avery Park Parts for Tractor Parts for Cruisers & Trucks Bearings for truck Mower blades & sharpening Repair siren in cruiser Engineer and Inspectors Payroll processing - October For Monument bases - Cemetery Stone & Asphalt - Street repairs Law Director services . .fjJJ~ r/(7JdIk 6665 Coffman Road Dublin, Ohio 4301 7 ".. VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT Portion Of Dublin Village Council Meeting November 21, 1983 .......~' PROPOSED FORCE MAIN SEWER - RIVERSIDE DRIVE Mayor Lewis requested Mr. Sheldon to introduce this subject and give the background. MR. SHELDON _ "The City of Columbus has for some time had problems with their sewage at the zoo, and about a year ago they began to talk about a sewer running across the bridge in some manner and getting into our sewer system which would pump down to our pump station on this side, or west side, of the river. As most of you know, and for those of you who don't know, all of the sewage on the west side of the river goes to a common pump station on South High Street and is pumped across the river to the east side. That pump station, designed for certain criteria, will serve a maximum population of certain figures and my reaction to that request was that if they want to do that, then before I take it to Council, they would have to be agreeable to expand the pump station and be willing to pay part of the power cost of that pumping station. And they, after study, on that for about a month and a half and decided that was too expensive to do... They kept talking about it for another 8 or 9 months and within the last 10 or 12 days the R.D. Zande Company brought in what I believe is a preliminary force main plan which would start at the zoo, come all the way down 257 at ! 270 and Riverside Drive on the west side with an 8" force main, ~' deep. This is for approximately three miles, 2.3 miles of which is in the Village. It would come into the sewer which now terminates just south of the I 270 overpass on Riverside Drive. Columbus has the right, according to our contract, to enter into our sewer at any point to make connections or extensions. They must submit prior plans and specifications to the Village of Dublin. The Village of Dublin must have good engineering reasons for turning them down or can ask for an appeal. If we don't respond to the plans in a 30 day period, they may proceed to build the sewer line. At this point in time, they plan to proceed wi th design and anticipate taking bids about mid-December." MAYOR LEWIS TO MR. WARNER - "Do you have anything to add to that, Bruce?" MR. WARNER - "No." 11--- -.r ~ -2- November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main MAYOR LEWIS - "MR. SMITH?" MR. SMITH _ "Yes. The agreement that we have with the City of Columbus, signed in 1971, does say that within 30 days submission of final plans to us _ well, as I told Council in executive session this evening, I believe that means any plans. When they're talking about going out for bids, I kind of think they are viewing them as final plans. We then have 30 days to either approve or disapprove those plans. If we disapprove them and attach, either from our engineer or a consulting engineer reasons for that, then it appears to me from the contract that it goes on hold and goes into some type of discussion process with the City of Columbus. In addition, this contract is 7 pages long and has some other provisions in it that need some clarification or discussion, and our office has been offering to do that with Mr. Lashutka's office at City because there is some language in the contract that refers to the fact that it must be a Dublin sewer system area tha is being served. Of course the zoo is above Dublin and at some point in time that mayor may not take it out of what is called the 'tributary design area'. So, we are in the process of taking a look at that contract. They say it's been in effect since '71 and we will be back to Sherm prior to the end of the week with what we feel that contract says with regard to those things so that we can then make any other plans which Council wishes to make. It is my opinion, though, that even though the plans are labeled preliminary plans, that Council should treat them as final plans because when you start talking about going for bids you are talking about a final decision, and I don't think we want to play semantics. If we have some legitimate objections, alternatives, or discussion, I think we should set them forth at this time. That's all I have." MR. AMOROSE _ "I prefer to let Mr. Chambers speak." MR. CHAMBERS _ "thank you. I have a number of points to be made and I hope the Council will bear with me if 1 exceed my 5 minutes limit. First, and don't let me sound like a lawyer. I'm not, but as I read this, we may object on the grounds either of engineering or location. That word is used specifically, and I most certainly object to the location. When this matter was first brought forward about a year or so ago,the suggestion was that Columbus come across the river to the general Muirfield area, and at that point go into our sewer system which then would, true we would have to pump it up, but we have been trying with Columbus for some years to get them to complete the west bank of the sewer up into the general Old Dublin area, and I suggested at that time that we use the zoo's requirement as a lever to get some more attention from Columbus on that point. I presume that that was done, but at any rate, I have not had a report since that it was done, and 1 would like to. If it has not been done, then certainly we should go back ,.. ..... - , ..-' ~_" r:rrtr",.M,""~' ! ~, r~ _~.......-",,,,,,,*".~I'M.lli.1"! -4€'-,~~~'" ,,.,_.",,,,,,,,,,~),,,,"'M';,,,,",,,*~~_,,n,'. :~ -3- November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main ........ and try to get the process started. If we end up having to pay to pump that sewage for a year or two, it will be absolute minimal compared to the cost involved in some other plans that have been suggested - such as the one presently being discussed. 1 find it - I will make a couple of other suggestions of points for negotiation that I think that at this point I'd rather think in terms of negotiating with Columbus a system which would actually be preferred by them as well as us, rather than depend entirely on the legalities of the situation, and I believe that there are opportunities to do that. The thought of building three miles of force main sewer through soli d rock and pass doz ens 0 f ci ti z ens who themsel v e s do no t have sewers is simply repugnant to me on every count, and we need a better system than they have suggested. A couple of other suggestions - this is a force main sewer, they don't have to be concerned about elevations, particularly. They own Sawmill Road, the whole length of it, and both sides of it, and they own the right-of-way on both sides of Sawmill Road. On our side of Sawmill Road there is very little in the way of houses, and so I would suggest that a second alternative we might discuSS with them is to bring their force main sewer down Sawmill Road to tie in at whatever point suits them. And thirdly, a suggestion that we be given time to make a survey of the citizens along Riverside Drive to see what the desire of the citizens is with respect to a proper gravity flow sewer down Riverside Drive, and whatever portion of cost would be attributed to the force main sewer Columbus would apply to the cost of the gravity sewer with Dublin and its citizens possibly paying the rest. But that would depend on a survey of those citizens before we do that. Until very recently, the citizens had no particular desire to have sewers. There is some indication that that point of view is changing, and I would like to know more about it. Now certainly, if it is the case, as I have been told, that Columbus is being having their feet held to the fire by the EPA, who has told them they must put in something at the zoo before next summer, I think we would owe it to Columbus to go to bat in their behalf to get that rule extended. If it is an EPA rule, then it is a bureaucratic rule. It isn't law. It's a bureau- cratic decision and such decisions are always subject to change, either by logic or by political punch. And we can apply either logic or political punch to this question and get that extended by the EPA in their behalf. Thank you Sil MAYOR LEWIS. "Thank you Mr. Chambers. Just to clarify some of your points. I believe the right-of-way on Sawmill Road belonging to Columbus only extends as far north as 270. I s that right Mr. Sheldon?" MR. SHELDON. "I think that is correct because as I relayed to Council one time, Franklin County wants to place Sawmill from 270 north to the Delaware County line on a five year MORPC tip plan. So I think that 1S correct." MAYOR LEWIS. "I though I recall that when ColumbUS announced their intentions to boulevard that or else expand or otherwise upgrade it, and they were only going as far as 270 because that was as far as thei r right-of-way went." "".. -- ..... ...(:; .,.. r__:1i':"j~"'-f--<l,",_-"'\"'';''*''"'"''';-''.'''-''' Transcript Proposed Force Main -4- November 21, 1983 MR. CHAMBERS. "May I comment on that?" MAYOR LEWIS. "Yes in just a minute, Mr. Chambers. In so far as our maintaining communications with Columbus, we have had meetings going back three years ago discussing various alternatives to this sewer problem at the zoo and as a matter of fact I reported at the October 17th meeting of Council the most recent meeting we had had with the Development Committee of greater Columbus, and their efforts going back even into the 1950s in regard to the west bank sewer, and the fact that we were a little disappointed in having reached an agreement with Columbus nearly a year ago to proceed with the west bank sewer. But because of the financial problems that rose in Columbus during 1983 in regards to the trash burning power plan, wage and salary considerations among the various services of the City of Columbus, that they deferred any further conversations on the west bank sewer during this year. The other item that we have not had an opportunity to resolve since these plans were just developed to our engineer within the last few days, is whether the possibility exists from a financial point of view and perhaps our joining with Columbus in its appli- cation with the EPA of combining the funds that they intend to expend for this 8" sewer with a contribution from Dublin, and if at all possible, from the Federal Government in building a sewer of adequate size to serve the northeast quadrant of Dublin. But of course that becomes a particularly difficult engineering problem and would take some time, but it is at least under consideration and, in fact, I think Mr. Sheldon made an effort to speak further on this subject with Mr. Parkinson today. Is that correct Sherm?" .... '- MR. SHELDON. "Yes." MAYOR LEWIS. "And then finally it is my understanding when Columbus made this proposal to proceed with an 8" line at 4~' that they recognized this would just be a temporary solution until we can ultimately have either a fully developed east bank and/or west bank sewer that would be a more permanent solution. Is that also correct Mr. Sheldon?" ..... f ... MR. SHELDON. "Yes sir." MAYOR LEWIS. "Yes Mr. Chambers." MR. CHAMBERS. "Two points. First, without getting into a discussion on whether or not they own one side or two sides of Sawmill Road you can only build a sewer on one side and I would suggest they build it on thei r own side." MAYOR LEWIS. "I only mention that Mr. Chambers, because it is a pretty good distance and elevation from the zoo to the east side of Sawmill Road south of 270, but be that as it may." MR. CHAMBERS. "Regardless of any other considerations, I think that Council should go on record as directing that nobody from the Village administration countersign this plan and directing also that efforts be made to defer this to give us time to work out a solution. This is more than just a ,. ~~~,~".~~,~~~1 .l!ti .4J:.~#""'"""'" -5- November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main .... matter of the inconvenience of building a sewer on the property of all of our citizens. It is Three or four years ago I went through that ordeal of having a sewer that we wanted put in front of our house. There is going to be blasting in the immediate vicinity of those houses. I lost one well out of that process. My neighbor lost their well out of tha t process. We're go i ng to have that p robl em all up and down Ri v e rsi de Drive if this is allowed to be done. By nO strange coincidence not a one of the people I know who lost wells succeeded in recovering a dime. At the appropriate time I will make a motion - after everybody has had a chance to discuss it." MAYOR LEWIS. "Do we have any further comment by members of council?" MRS. MAURER. "I would like to hear comments from the public before I make any comments." MAYOR L EWI S. "Wou 1 d any body in the au di enc e ca re to make a --yes ma' am. " "I would like to say -- if it is just a temporary plan do they normally already do all their test boring down Riverside Drive. They've already done all that _ the company that supposedlY is going to put in the sewer. I talked to EPA and they told me that it was not a temporary line - that it would be a permanent line and that absolutely no one else could tap into it." ... MAYOR LEWIS. "Well I think that is correct. I say temporary only to the extent that it is an B" line only buried 4\' in the ground, and if and when we can get the funds and the approval and all of the other requirements for moving north with the full size sewer, I'm sure that they would tap into that at the appropriate time, particularly if it is a gravity sewer. .- " MRS. MAURER. "I would appreciate having your testimony." ~ MR. YEAGER. "As I said, my name is Yeager and our family has some land on Riverside Drive that my grandfather bought quite a long time ago. I agree with Mr. Chambers. I would like to see the City Council, the Village Council, ask the property owners along 257 what their desire is about a permanent sewer. Correct me if I'm wrong - to put a temporary sewer in are they going to have to blast to put the force main in? If you're going to be blasting why not blast out enough to put a permanent sewer in? I just think the people from Riverside Drive ought to be heard from before - I f you have that option, they ought to be heard from." ",. -6- November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main ..... M~VOR LEWIS. "Ves we do have that option. In fact I mentioned we've asked our City Engineer to discusS this with the engineers of Columbus but the thing that I am concerned about is what action we should take immediately versUS the unknown time schedule for doing the engineering, and the determination of the projected cost of the full size permanent sewer. I am very much in favor of going that way. The question is under investigation by the City Engineer and the City Manager and, as Mr. Smith indicated, then we will probably file this cause for delay as called for in the contract until we can at least get some preliminary information that then we could take to you as residents with a little bit more specific information. I think that if we did that you would want to know what the apparent cost is going to be and how it is going to affect you as property owners because I'm sure it is going to be a very expensive project, however we proceed. If we do proceed in cooperation with Columbus." MR. VE~GER. "I can't speak for other property owners. I know that, depending upon what the cost is we're willing to pay our fair share to bring that sewer up there but obviously it can't be a carte blanche because I don't know how much it's going to cost. Is there anything that the property owners on 257 can do in talking to the City of Columbus?" M~VOR LEWIS. "I think the first thing we have to do is call for this meetin<! among the engineers in order to establish the feasibility of the project. Then if it is a question of meeting with any of the higher officials in the Ci ty of Columbus we may very well want to call on you." "... MR. YEAGER. "Thank you." MRS. M~URER. "Mr. Yeager could I just ask you - are you on the east side of the road?" " ... MR. YEAGER. "Just about the MRS. M~URER. "That raises a question of me. The sewer south of 270 I understand lS on the east side of 257." -~ MAYOR LEWIS. "I think that is correct." MRS. M~URER. "The force main coming down is on the west side. If that location were approved and that were the future probable location of the larger main, or a larger sewer, it seems to me that it is in the wrong place because the people on the west side of the road would have to pump up to it. The people who would benefit most on the east side of the road who have the land to be developed and it doesn't make sense to keep it on the west side. That to me is a basic objection to the location." .... .,,,,~.,,~,,,.~l T..._'ll .,11 7 ::1 ~.', r . ..:;;t! _~.1'!:.fi.~"'"*-,:,-",;,,,,,,,,'~""""''"'''-'i' ".,~,<' .".., _"""~""_,,,,,",,,<,,'I;.,'W~ 11- ~Y:.""".""'''''0't,_"",~",~,-"",,,'''~,'''''l',-~;,;,~g!II~W'll'I''1..'I~)~V-*~'''!'I!!' Transcript Proposed Force Main -7- November 21, 1983 MAYOR LEWIS. "I agree with you Barbara. The problem is that the sewer, if I understand it correctly, crosses to the east side just south of 161. Is that correct Sherm?" ""'- MR. SHELDON. emanates now intersection crosses over "Sure does - that trunk sewer that I talked about that or comes to a conclusion just below 270 comes down to the of the bridge here, goes down by the Citgo station, und then to the west." - ~.' MRS. MAURER. "To the west side? It's on the east side at that point." MAYOR LEWIS. "So all of that sewer is a gravity sewer but you cannot take that existing terminus and swing back down to the river bank and still make it a gravity sewer." MRS. MAURER. "Well I think that supports my point." MAYOR LEWIS. "Well I know that." MRS. MAURER. "If it would come up No?" MAYOR LEWIS. "In order to make it a gravity sewer all the way, you have to go all the way back down to where it is on the river bank, which is down by the Citgo station, and come up the river from that point. Because the extension from that point north is gravity as long as you're on the east side of 257 but it cunnot be gravity to any connections on the west side of 257. And that creates a part of this dilemma. I mean it is a complication. It's an engineering complication it's a cost complication. ,-. MRS. MAURER. "Could I ask - Is the west side of the river chosen by the zoo because the zoo is on the west side, although this water park is going to be..." ... MAYOR LEWIS "No the east side of the river is what the zoo is talking about." MRS. MAURER. "Well that is not what this says." MR. AMOROSE. "They're probably locating on the west side of 257 in order to connect the gravity sewer when and if it is ever constructed with the line on the east side of 270." MR. SHELDON. "I f we build a gravity sewer on the east side of the road. If we built it for the Village of Dublin residents it would terminate at the Delaware County line-that is as far as we would go. By them putting theirs on the west side, if we ever do that, and it is still a temporary situation at that time, it does not interfere with their force main. '~_ik_'''''''''~'''''''''''i'''__:'''''''''_'''_''~''''D'~'''''''''''''''~~''''n '-"'I',,_.,:-.,..~~ 1_.: 1 " ,;""..~_t<'~-iI'.""', -,-'-",-- . ....-- -8- November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main '* MRS. MAURER. "I guess what I thought we were suggesting at some point (maybe in the meeting before this) that some kind of negotiation could be made with Columbus to do the larger sewer with contributions from both Columbus and us and at that point it seems to me it would make sense for it to be on the east side of the road rather than on the west side of the road." MAYOR LEWIS. "It doesn't really make any difference which side of the road it's on. The important point is that if the permanent full size sewer is put in on 257 all the property owners on the west side of 257 down toward the river. If they were to ever hook into that sewer, they would have to pump sewage into it. 11 - .~ MRS. MAURER. "Yes. I understand thaL" MAYOR LEWIS. 110.1<. Are there any other comments from people in the audience? Yes sir." ROBERT HITCHINS. "My name is Robert Hitchins and I just found out about this tonight. Couple of questions. Would we be compensated for the inconvenience in having our land torn up, and our driveways torn up, our shrubbery torn up. Would there be any compensation for allowing the City of Columbus to do this? If they want to give us $500 a frontage foot, I might think very favorable on it, but if they are just going to come in and rip everything up whey it seems like it would be a pretty terrible thing just to get rid of waste from the zoo~ MR. SHELDON. "Sir, if I may answer- ~ur question. In my opinion there would be no remuneration because they're working in the state right-of-way. There would be no compensation at least to my knowledge or in my opinion." MR. AMOROSE. "They'd have to restore it to the condition it was when they started." MR. HITCHINS. "I've seen that before too. As far as incorporating the smaller zoo sewer with one that would accommodate the residents along Riverside Drive, it seems to me we would be charged something for that. Am I correct on that?" """ .c. ",.,' "Yes Sir." MR. HITCHINS. "It would seem to me that we would be throwing our money down a sewer because everyone of us along the east side of the river has good sewage disposal with leech beds, aeration systems, and I don't know of any- body who has had any problems along there. I know personally I have not. I would just like to go on record, if there is such a thing, as saying I am dead set against this whole idea. Mr. Chambers you're number 1 in my book. I hope you prevail." .~,_~P~''''I1:'-'<~''''';' .. ",..,,.,,,,.,.<_.....'-10<,:',.1;"'1:..,), -9 - November 21, 1983 Transcript Proposed Force Main MR. CHAMBERS. "Thank you sir. Let me add to that any proposal to build a sewer anywhere or any other way of raising taxes has to go to you people for a vote before it can be done. This Council cannot do it, so it would have to go to the people. 1 have a motion to make sir." MRS. MAURER. "11 d like to hear from other people in the audience. MAYOR LEWIS. "Is there anyone else that would care to say anything?" MR. KELLER. "My name is Jerome Keller and I live on Riverside Orive. The only thing I was interested in when he brought up about the well. Without my well my house would be useless. Do we know what is going to happen to the wells? When you're blasting in solid rock. My house sits on the other end of that solid rock. What is going to happen?" MAYOR LEWIS. "1 have no way of predicting." MR. KELLER. "If the sewer is te""orary, te""orary doesn't make any difference if the damage has already been done. I think some engineerS or somebody better look long and hard before they start blasting along Riverside Drive. Thank you." MR. THORNTON. " . tend to agree with Mr. Chambers. In all seriousness, force main by my house. They say they do restore the property but they really don't. What we're talking about is it possible for us to do anything to forestall the zoo sewer problem and get it incorporated with a permanent fixture which would do everybody, mostly people, a lot of good. I have a lot of sy""athy for Jack Hanna and the apes and everybody else, but I think the citizens come before that. I would suggest that we on Council do whatever is in our power to get the City of Columbus and our people together and come up with a permanent, more workable, less damaging solution for sewage. " MRS. MAURER. "Could I ask a question about the basis of the requirement to the zoo is that their treatment plant isn't working. Now my question is _ what possible damage is occurring to us? I knoW that when our pu"" doesn't work south of Dublin, and when the electricity goes out, our sewage goes into the river. If the zoo's seWage is going in the river it's damaging us. I think we ought to take into consideration that there may be some basis to the EPA requirement that they get some other kind of treatment. We may be having our water polluted and the waterways that we use in the summertime for swimming and boating and so on may have residue from large animals in it and that is something we have to keep in mind. There is another side to this. The EPA is there for a reason - it is to protect ". -- -- ... . ".""._'t!#."..,..,lllIil!,,'.---4. Transcript Proposed Force Main -10- November 21, 1983 ..., human beings from pollution and from the consequences of inadequate treatment. I feel that we have a schizophrenic split here. On the one hand we have people who are saying, as Mr. Hitchins is saying, I don't want any sewer, anytime, of any kind in fron of my house or within reach of it or going past on either side of the road. On the other hand we have people like Mr. Yeager, Mrs. Painter and other people who have property to be developed are saying - If you're going to have a sewer come down here I want one large enough to serve my property. You can't all agree with Mr. Chambers. We may ask for a delay but I think what we need to have clarification of is some idea of what the needs are. I agree with that. We need to know what the needs are of our citizens, but we're going to have an inevitable conflict of values here and the delay will not clear that up. I would like to agree with asking for an objection to be raised within the 30 days, but we need to have a clarification of what the people along the river want. To that end I think the people who are in support of each of these sides need to get out and find out who are their supporters and on which side of the issue." ,... MAYOR LEWIS. "Thank you Barbara. Yes sir." - MR. STOYCHEFF. "My name is Jim Stoycheff. I don't have any property that is right on Riverside Drive, but I do have a very good concern for Dublin and I have called everyone that I know of that is in the phone book, that has a listed number, and asked them whether they are very much concerned about this line, if they are opposed to it, or if they are not opposed to it. This has nothing to do with the gravity sewer which, by the way, I think the original plans were to be put along the river and not even close to Riverside Drive. I wanted to put first thing first and to express the people who couldn't come tonight because they had other commitments. Every last person that I talked to on the phone said that they did not want to have a forced line on Riverside Drive. Every last one. That has nothing to do with the gravity system and I'm sure that is a split like Mrs. Maurer said. However, by the comments of most people like Mr. Keller most of them, I think, feel that they don't want the gravity system ei ther. " ...... MAYOR LEWIS. "Thank you." MRS. MAURER. "Could I ask you how many people you called, you talked to?" MR. STOYCHEFF. "I would say between 20 and 30 residents that are directly on the west side of Riverside Drive, and everyone of them, without exception, did not want the force system and most of them did not want the gravity. I think Mrs. Painter does want the gravity system - and Mr. Yeager, and in general in my phone conversations I just wanted to make it clear that everyone was opposed to the gravity system, Qn Riverside Drive and every- body is behind Mr. Chambers." MAYOR LEWIS. "Thank you. Mr. Chambers." ";"",_._,._.,~q.,~~,_, ,~: :.__U,,", ~.. U .. r ~_1__ .. t_.'lI""-~'>""" <""_'_'"'_''~''''''''''''.''F'''~''''-';.'"~''''' .4.: w._:"",",,-,.,.;.;:t.... .w.",.....I...l41111! ",__.l..~ -~ Transcript Proposed Force Main -11- November 21, 1983 to ~ MR. CHAMBERS. "I have a motion to propose which I think will alleviate some apprehension on the part of certain members of Council. I hereby move to instruct our Solicitor to file a disapproval of these plans with the City of Columbus, and request a time schedule to work under in order to present alternatives and investigate the same. It is assumed that the City Manager and the Mayor will give the weight of their office to the Solicitor's efforts. ",..- MAYOR LEWIS. "Do I have a second?" MR. THORNTON. "I second it." MR. STRUTNER. "The motion passed unanimously." ....- ......." _ ~. .-' ,.".,,#....~_k__."'H.. _,.,~I'~t"'~j"':.~..;r___,i""I~~. ....,. ,.,'~,......",',."'""""'-'~ t.:.;~~'i'.,~,L,n"p.'~~'W".~~ .' . Bill Listing for December 5, 1983 ADS Systems RMRS Sy stems Franklin County Engineer Xerox Corporation Motion Industries Bank One Trust ,.,...... Adia Temporary Services King Equipment Shoes & Gloves Trader Bud's Westside Dodge The Columbus Dispatch ADP Washington Township The Cellar Lumber Co. White Acres Implement R.E. Hutchinson -......- Columbia Gas Central Ohio Welding Co. J.D. Equipment Roush Hardware R.P.M. Maintenance Leo Meyers Central Communications D & M Distributor McAlister Camera Gordon Flesch Flower Garbage Danny L. Sells .,.-. Jack Conie & Sons Corp. .....!< - Connolly Construction Co. C.F. Bird & R.J. Bull Standard Law Enforcement Thomas L. Matheny B F Goodrich I.C.M.A. Geotechnical Consultants Kenny Fulk The Village Trophy Dublin Cardinal Food C&SOE Ohio Bell Smith, Gunner & Hill Perry Township H. F. McClory .~ 31.46 2,000.00 668.95 48.40 100.96 325.00 820.80 68. 28 53.02 16.74 50.22 47.30 4,282.50 35.84 2.04 4,741.49 159.36 14.40 20.69 91. 52 433.33 31. 95 118.75 26 . 28 133.59 975.00 6,873.00 198.70 2,778.96 6,947.37 10.00 17.54 85.00 182.16 80.00 698.24 42.30 1,000.00 74.24 3,499.65 1,081.72 3,777.50 2,083.33 340.00 Typewriter ribbons postage for meter Traffic signs; repair traffic lights Maintenance Agreement on copier Bearings for truck Collection fees to administer bond & coupon payments 2 Temporary Maintenance workers Clamps & cable for truck Coveralls for maintenance men Part for truck Legal ad for police liability lns. Payroll processing for 11/30 Fire hydrant Maintenance contract-3rd qtr. Lumber for police dept. remodeling Misc. parts for tractor Unleaded & regular gasoline for all vehicles fuel oil, & motor oil Gas at 129 S. High st. Rental of oxygen & acetylene cylinders Oil & air filter for backhoe Paint, keys, rakes, extension cord, screen flourescent light, pipe fitting etc. Janitorial services for November Uniform shoes for officer Install rebuilt siren driver Lights for cruiser photography class supplies Maintenance agreement on Canon copier Trash collection for November Repair landscape sprinkler system on Metro Pl. S. (Broken hydrant); repair sump pump in elevator shaft Repair fire hydrants on Post Road, Edinburgh: Frantz, Longbranch, and Metro Pl. S. Frantz Road Extension Engineering services for Frantz Rd. Extensiol Thermometer for breathalyzer Wash & wax cruisers 4 tires for cruiser #14 Membership for Assistant Manager Site inspections at Muirfield Phase 18, Weybridge II, Post Rd., Preston Mill Way, Frantz Rd. Extension & Blvd. Repai r gas pump Trophies for softball league, misc. other awards October Golden Gatherings meeting Electric billings for Municipal Bldgs, park pump stations Phone service to all departments; install new phone lines for police & court clerk Legal services for November police communications contract Pump Station Maintenance contract r' '-- ,"- , \....-- ,.... f"- Bill Listing for December 5, 1983 P.E.R.S. E.P.A Pat Speer Marianne Rennie Huntington National Bank BancOhio National Bank Ohio State Bank Payroll Total "',:"......l.'."..'_""'!l"_..."',-._..,,_""'.',!.,,..O..*,'-~_,_~ H 3,865.52 30,169.00 200.00 40.00 99,567.45 71,322.97 40,659.72 26,652.42 $317 ,544.66 l_:lJ:1n~ tl,ti"..d. . Employer's portion Refund overpayment of EPA Grant Instruct photography & magic workshops November Golden Gatherings meeting Bond & Coupon payment due 12-1-83(Water Tower Waterline, & Frantz Rd. Intersection Bonds) Bond & Coupon payment due 12-1-83 (HI Sewer and Old Dublin Waterline Bonds) Bond & coupon payment due 12-1-83 (Phase II Sewerline Bonds) Gross salaries for all employees "<-"-,""",";'''''''"i;'''''~,_' JI..__."\_r~ ~'..J."~I'""",_""",;,_-","1^-,--"""""'.,m"'"",,,,'",_;>C'_"',