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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Thursday, December 12, 2019
Minutes of Meeting
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes called the meeting of the Community Development Committee to
order at 10:03 a.m. in Council Chambers.
Committee members present: Ms. De Rosa, Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes, Mr. Reiner via
telephone.
Staff members present: Mr. Earman and Mr. Hammersmith.
Discussion re. Streetscape/Tree Selection in Historic Dublin
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that she, Ms. De Rosa and staff completed a walk-through
in the Historic District this morning. The goal of this meeting is to capture their thoughts about
having an attractive streetscape in the urban areas of the City. Specifically, the discussion is
focused on High Street, but the thinking is this could be applied to all urban streets in the City.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes outlined what the Committee viewed: Sawtooth oak trees and a
number of other trees have been planted over the course of time, including crabapples. The City
Forester explained that the Sawtooth oaks are all failing, largely because of the soil quantity and
quality available to its root zone. There were other issues raised by the Committee, such as,
although the building setbacks from the street on the east side of High Street are relatively
consistent, on the west side, they are less consistent. The question is how to make the sidewalk
feel more consistent given the inconsistency of the building setbacks. Perhaps a low stone wall,
potentially bookshelved, or a low, stone seat wall would be appropriate, as this is on the parade
route. When the City does plant the proper street tree in the proper location along an urban area,
how can we ensure it has the capacity to survive? The street trees in Bridge Park were referenced,
pointing out that because there was not sufficient root zone area for the trees, the decision had
been made that those trees would be replaced every 5-7 years. The Committee then walked up
to the northern part of High Street, near the new library and the Z1 and Z2 buildings, and viewed
the Ginkgo tree installation. One of the policy updates needed concerns having clear trunk heights
at the time of installation — approximately seven feet. Some of the lateral branches on the Ginkgos
start between 30-40 inches off the ground, particularly on the west side of High Street in front of
the library.
She asked the Chair which agenda topic he preferred to discuss first — the South High Street
treescape, the North High Street treescape, or urban street trees.
Mr. Reiner responded that the discussion should begin with the current issue on S. High Street.
The cadence of the trees could be increased. He stated that unanimity of tree type would be best.
The tree installation between the curb, brick sidewalks and utilities must be done very carefully.
He would recommend Lilac trees (He outlined the reasons.)
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes inquired about the ultimate size of the lilac trees.
Mr. Reiner responded that the height should remain underneath the power lines.
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Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that there has been discussion about the removal of existing
power poles along High Street as part of the 2021 South Franklin Street improvements in the CIP.
What are his thoughts about changing out the lilac trees if the overhead power lines would not
accommodate them?
Mr. Reiner responded there could be a more interesting streetscape and a better tree canopy if
the power lines were eliminated. It would be possible to use a larger tree, with better bed
preparation and good installation in the small space between curb and the sidewalk.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated perhaps a Pyramidal Hornbeam or Fastigiate Tulip tree could
be used. What is his opinion of the volume of soil that needs to be available to such trees?
Mr. Reiner responded that the Hornbeam grows very large, and he would not recommend the
Fastigiate Tulip tree.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes agreed regarding the size of a Hornbeam. The space between the
street and the building fagade is 8-12 feet. To place a canopy tree in there, it would have to be
a largely one-sided canopy, which likely would have a negative impact on the tree overall. She
agrees that the Hornbeam is not the right tree, but perhaps something slightly more similar to a
Fastigiate would be appropriate. Otherwise, the head of the tree will be significantly out of
balance.
Discussion continued.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that discussion about a specific tree could take place later.
At this time, the Committee should focus more on the visuals of urban street trees within the
City.
Mr. Reiner stated that the trees on the east side of the S. High street are large, mature and look
great. They fill up the space effectively and soften the view of the buildings. The recent removal
of the trees on the west side of S. High was due to a specific need, and he does not advocate
cutting down the trees on the east side.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated the goal is to come up with a comprehensive plan.
Mr. Reiner stated the question is if the Committee wants to plant smaller trees due to the power
lines, or wait until 2021 and plant a larger scale tree? That is the first issue to be resolved.
Ms. De Rosa asked for clarification about the future utility pole modifications planned for 2021.
Mr. Hammersmith responded that the intent is not to bury anything along S. High Street, but to
remove the existing poles. The service to the properties would then be extended from the rear.
Ms. De Rosa stated she would prefer to plant a larger tree now, if it does not impact the movement
of the poles in 2021. If we assume that we can do the movement of the power lines in 2021,
planting the larger tree now makes sense. The sooner that vegetation can be planted, the better.
Mr. Reiner stated that is an excellent point -- why install temporary trees and then remove them?
The City should consider installing larger trees now that ultimately would produce a nicer canopy
overarching the street, softening the entire streetscape. Between now and 2021, the trees would
not grow significantly.
Ms. De Rosa stated that she would defer to the landscape expertise of Mr. Reiner and Vice Mayor
Amorose Groomes. There was also discussion about the streetscape — stone walls, shrubbery,
etc. A question was raised about who would have maintenance responsibility. From a policy
perspective, what could and should be done with items beyond the trees?
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Mr. Reiner responded that the responsibility is determined by property lines and City right-of-
way, which would need to be clarified.
Mr. Earman stated that the City has maintenance responsibility from the sidewalk edge nearest
the property to the street. The property owner is responsible for the landscaping from their
building to the edge of sidewalk.
Mr. Reiner stated that a landscape architect would need to review the streetscape in terms of
aesthetics, specifically, whether stone walls should be added. Would they interfere with on- street
parking? He is uncertain of the feasibility of adding amenities, given all of the elements involved.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated she is not certain there is sufficient soil there to support
new trees. She does not want to hire a consultant to prepare a plan; the City can do this. Perhaps
a list of three to four street trees to be used in different areas of the City could be prepared. A
soil volume should be assigned to each of those trees that is necessary for the tree to meet a 60 -
year mature height. It is important to determine the soil volume in place so that whatever is
planted will be successful. A price tag needs to be assigned to the different urban streets in the
City — Historic Dublin, Bridge Park — reflecting the cost associated with ensuring the right soil
volume for long-term plant success. Then, we can have a conversation about the total number
of trees needed and where this project should be prioritized in the CIP. A cost should be provided
for the various urban streets — S. High Street, N. High Street, John Shields Parkway, Riverside
Drive, and Banker Drive, etc. Congruently, the City needs to upgrade the tree specifications and
associated costs for all streets being constructed within the City's urban districts. It is more
expensive to do this after construction than before. Even if that means a change order is required
for streets under construction today, it should be done.
Mr. Reiner stated calculations would be easy to do for the preferred trees. Another important
issue for the CIP is how to replace the buffering in the City and at what point is it replaced. The
original intent of the City was that people driving through Dublin would see green views, not the
back of houses or play equipment. Now, 40 years later, those screening elements are starting to
dissolve and Dublin is becoming less attractive. Retaining the visual aspects and quality of the
City is as important as building a new City Hall. A long-term program is needed to address the
view shed issue.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes agreed that maintaining the street aesthetics going forward is an
important item. She believes that a staff update about the Muirfield Drive landscape screening
is pending. The intent is to re-establish the screening/buffering in that corridor, which has
diminished over time. She recalls a prior discussion about engaging the neighborhood along
Avery-Muirfield for this purpose. She requested a status report from staff.
Mr. Earman responded that the intent is to engage the property owners in areas along Avery-
Muirfield Road where the condition of the screening is inconsistent with the development text.
There are other areas of the City where there is a need to ensure consistency with the Code is
being maintained, as well. The property owners need to be informed of their obligations. The
intent was to schedule a meeting with the neighborhood last fall to discuss the Code requirements
and their responsibilities. However, that meeting has not yet been scheduled.
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Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes added that Council's vision 30-40 years ago for the screening was
good; however, the execution left much to be desired, as the City did not acquire easements in
order to access the properties.
Mr. Reiner added that the responsibility rests with Council for not requiring consistent large
setbacks in the face of development pressure. The mounding on Brand Road that screens the
Asherton development is 14 feet in height. The problem with the screening is that spruce trees
must be replaced every 30 years.
Ms. De Rosa stated that one of the goals of this discussion is to update some of the policies. Draft
language should be brought forward by staff to update the policies in regard to setbacks and
landscape/screening replacement. She concurs with the observations about the screening along
the roadways. However, in order to provide direction to staff today, additional discussion is
needed regarding the streetscape on S. High Street.
Mr. Reiner stated that he would advocate for the planting of larger shade trees, as these will
require time to develop. That would be preferable to installing temporary trees and removing
them later. He inquired about the Code requirements for screening of parking lots. He has noticed
the lack of screening around some car dealerships. Is this a Code enforcement issue, or has the
landscape screening died out and not been replaced? Do we meet our own standards? Has the
City appropriately screened the parking lot for Avery Park? That issue also needs to be addressed.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes suggested that the Committee focus on the issue before them
today. She does not believe pictures or renderings are necessary for the South High Street
streetscape.
Mr. Reiner stated that there is no need for a master plan to be prepared for this project. The
forestry staff and landscape architect, together with the Committee, can stake out the area for
planting shade trees.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated she would like to see a list of approximately a dozen
proposed trees for the urban areas of the City, six of which would be capable of providing a
canopy width 40 feet and under, and six of which could provide canopy widths 40 feet and over.
From that list, calculations should be prepared for the quantity of soil necessary for the 40 feet
and under list and the quantity of soil necessary for the 40 feet and over list. The next step would
be to identify the urban streets in Dublin and the available soil depth for street trees within the
given area. If the calculation indicates 95 cubic yards of soil, yet only 65 cubic yards are available,
recommendations are needed for achieving the additional 30 cubic yards necessary. That
information should include where it would be available - under the street or under the sidewalk?
Due to the urgency, the S. High Street area will be the first priority, but the same process and
formula would be used subsequently for all urban street trees. Once a tree is selected, the
canopies of those trees will determine the cadence. Additional enhancements can be discussed
next, such as a stone wall for soil retention. She would like to see some progress within the next
three weeks.
Mr. Reiner agreed. Regarding the cubic yards of soil needed, in a sidewalk system like Bridge
Park, a huge amount soil must be added to enable the tree growth, as it is completely encased
by brick pavers, etc. For South High Street, trees will grow using the soil underneath the brick
sidewalks.
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Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that per the earlier conversation, if there are areas where a
section of street needs to be removed to amend what is underneath the street and make the soil
available to the trees, that should be considered.
Mr. Reiner summarized that the Committee has requested that staff provide lists of trees as
outlined (40 feet and under canopy and 40 feet and over canopy) and a calculation to make this
doable. The other issues discussed tonight are the buffers and screenings, as well as the parking
lot screenings. Staff can report back on this.
Ms. De Rosa inquired if it would take a few years of growth for the trees that are planted to have
a visual impact on S. High Street.
Mr. Reiner responded that it would depend upon the tree spread and cadence.
Ms. De Rosa inquired what are some viable suggestions for the other streetscape issues. Are
there opportunities to work with property owners on these? She encouraged the Committee not
to use the current constraints for potential visioning. If the property owners are provided
attractive options, they will be interested. As a phase 2 goal, she encourages bringing back some
practical ideas, which also could be applied to other urban streets.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes inquired if the Committee had provided clear direction.
Mr. Earman responded the Committee has provided the direction needed to proceed. He is
anticipating this to be achieved in three phases: phase 1 would be the trees along S. High; phase
2 would be the streetscape; and phase 3 would be Code revisions to implement a policy going
forward. Staff can begin work on this within a reasonable period of time, but given that the next
opportunity for a Committee report is January 6, he will discuss with the City Manager the next
steps in the process.
Ms. De Rosa asked about the east side of Bridge Park and the treescape planned for the park
edge. It would be beneficial to incorporate some of the recommendations of this discussion.
Mr. Earman responded that the area along Riverside Drive, which will eventually become a
promenade with trellis and landscaping, has not yet been programmed in the CIP.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if staff could provide a list of pending planting projects, so
that it is not necessary to retrofit those areas later.
Mr. Earman agreed to do so.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m
Deputy Clerk of Council