HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-29-19 Work Session MinutesDublin City Council Work Session
Monday, July 29, 2019
Council Chambers
Minutes of Meeting
Mayor Peterson called the Monday, July 29, 2019, Work Session of Dublin City Council to order at
5:35 p.m. at Dublin City Hall.
Members present were: Mayor Peterson, Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes, Ms. Alutto, Ms. De Rosa,
Ms. Fox, Mr. Keenan and Mr. Reiner.
Staff members present: Mr. McDaniel, Ms. Mumma, Ms. Crandall, Mr. Earman, Ms. Goss, Ms.
Burness, Mr. Stiffler, Ms. Richison and Mr. Plouck.
Also present were representatives of the Dublin Arts Council and the Dublin Convention & Visitors
Bureau.
Hotel -Motel (Bed) Tax Fund
Ms. Mumma noted that this is a good time to discuss the Fund, which is very healthy. In order to
make future decisions regarding the fund, staff thought it would be helpful to have a baseline
discussion regarding the Fund, how it works, and the revenues and expenditures. Some questions
were included in the packet for discussion, although there is not an expectation those will all be
resolved tonight. This will lay the groundwork for future conversations Council will have regarding
the Fund.
[A copy of the presentation was distributed in the packet.]
Background
The Fund was established to account for the revenues generated from the six percent hotel -motel
tax imposed on all overnight stays within the City of Dublin. In addition, all revenues associated
with the City's various community events are accounted for in this Fund. These are the two inflows
of revenue for the Fund. The outflows of the Fund include all expenditures related to the DCVB,
the Dublin Arts Council, community events, the public art program, and various community grants
reviewed and approved by Council.
She shared a graph of the expenses and revenues from 2014 through 2018 and the resulting fund
balance of the Hotel -Motel Tax Fund. At the end of 2018, the Hotel -Motel Tax Fund balance was
$4.26 million.
At the end of the presentation, there will be five different areas outlined for Council's
consideration: the City's needs, those of the DAC, those of the DCVB, community grants, and
other.
Hotel -Motel Tax Code
Ms. Mumma stated that a six percent tax is imposed on all overnight stays in Dublin hotels. As of
December of 2018, there were 17 hotels within the City. The State requires the City to pay 25
percent of those receipts to the local Convention and Visitors Bureau.
City Council increased the DCVB allocation to 35 percent, beginning in January of 2016. Chapter 35
of the Dublin Code contains this law.
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In this same section, it is also stipulated how those funds — those generated from the bed tax -
should be spent. These areas include: additional DCVB expenses beyond the mandated 25
percent; cultural arts; beautification of public property; improvement of the Historic District;
Special Events; any other project or expenditure that would enhance the City's appeal to visitors
and tourists; and community organizations who apply for a portion of the tax revenues through a
grant process.
Hotel -Motel Policies (formal or otherwise implied)
In addition to the state law requirement of what goes to the DCVB, there are some policies —
formal or otherwise implied — that Council should be aware of. Through an agreement with the
DAC, the City pays 25 percent of gross bed tax revenue to the DAC. Additionally, as part of the
Development Agreement with Crawford Hoying, the City pays 25 percent of the bed tax generated
on the H2 Hotel and the Bridge Park hotels (currently, there is only one), until the Bridge Park
Community Facility debt is paid off.
In 2016, a discussion occurred with Council about a minimum fund balance policy of 100 percent
of the hotel -motel tax estimate for the year. A formal recommendation from Council was never
brought forward, however. She encourages Council to adopt a fund balance policy for this Fund at
some point.
Hotel -Motel Tax Revenue
The Hotel -Motel Tax revenue is divided into two "buckets" — 35 percent allocated to the DCVB is
put aside into a separate fund — Fund 804. It is set up as a separate account because of the
statutory obligation to pay the DCVB. The remaining 65 percent of revenue is placed into Fund 232
— the general Hotel -Motel Tax Fund. This funds the DAC contribution, the City events, Event staff,
grants, and the public art program.
She shared a graph of the Hotel -Motel Tax Revenue between 2014 and 2018 as distributed
between the two funds (804 and 232). Beginning in 2016, the City had 65 percent of the revenue
to spend, as 35 percent was to be committed to the DCVB.
She shared a slide showing the DCVB revenue from 2014 ($665,000) to nearly $1.2 million in
2018. This represents an 80.1 percent increase between 2014 and 2018.
The next portion of the presentation relates to the 65 percent — Fund 232 — that the City uses for
various purposes.
She shared a slide showing the revenue of the Hotel -Motel Tax Fund (Fund 232). In addition to the
bed tax, the other main source of revenues for this fund is from the Special Events — largely, the
Dublin Irish Festival. There are also revenues from interest earnings, rent on the DAC building, and
some miscellaneous revenue. However, 90 percent of the Fund 232 revenue is either generated by
the bed tax itself or from City events.
In terms of Event revenue, there are two events that generate revenue — the Irish Festival and
Independence Day. She noted that Independence Day is a small piece of the total revenue from
events. Sources of revenue from these two events include admissions, beverage sales,
contributions and donations.
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Given that over 40 percent of the Bed Tax Fund revenue is from Events, specifically from the Irish
Festival, staff reviewed projected DIF revenues in a case where the event were cancelled in part or
in full. Recognizing there is weather or other issue that can impact the Festival attendance, staff
wanted to review the potential impact on revenues and expenditures. The graph shown reflects
the impact on revenues. Approximately $2.2 million is projected as annual revenue. With a partial
cancellation, about $1.8 million in revenue would still come in, but if it were fully cancelled, the
revenue would be about $836,000. Much of the revenue comes in well ahead of the event —
sponsorships, pre -purchase of tickets, etc.
Hotel -Motel Tax Fund Expenditures
On the expenditure side of the hotel -motel tax fund, the majority are related to community events,
reflected in green. Other expenses include debt service on the DAC building, the grants awarded,
and the Art in Public Places program. The largest expenditures relate to the Irish Festival. The
general event expense includes those not attributable to a specific event, namely salaries and
benefits for Events staff. This is therefore not associated with any one event. The salaries and
benefits for Events staff is accounted for within this hotel -motel tax fund. Additionally, typical
budget items for Events staff as any other City department has would be accounted for in this
fund. The personnel costs associated with City events are not necessarily all of the personnel
costs incurred. Staff from other departments work the DIF, and those costs are not charged back
to the hotel -motel tax fund. So essentially, the departments funded by the General Fund are
contributing staff to these events at a cost of about $450,000 per year.
Ms. Fox asked of the general event expenses, how much is that annually? Is it $450,000?
Ms. Mumma responded the $450K is not included in that expenditure graph.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if the events such as the Frog Jump and Easter Egg Hunt
would be considered part of the General Fund event expenses.
Ms. Mumma responded that often, with the grant process, City service costs will be waived.
Therefore, those departments funded through the General Fund are bearing the expense of those.
Ms. Alutto asked if employees are not specifically designated for an event, but are asked to work
an event, are they paid overtime, and does the $450,000 figure include that overtime?
Ms. Mumma responded it does include overtime costs. If the hours they work put them in overtime
status, that is paid out of General Fund.
Ms. Alutto asked if this is approved in advance and a planned expense.
Ms. Mumma responded affirmatively.
Staff also reviewed what expenses would be incurred with a partial or complete cancellation of the
Dublin Irish Festival. About 95 percent of the expenditures are incurred prior to the actual event,
and for this reason, it is important to have a fund balance policy in place. There is risk of not
receiving a tremendous amount of anticipated revenue if the event has to be cancelled. Staff
looked at the possibility of purchasing additional insurance to cover any cancellation. There are
various levels of insurance available, but at a relatively high cost, given that there is a healthy fund
balance. This option is continually reviewed in order to understand the exposure points for the
events.
Dublin Arts Council Community Grants
Currently, the City provides 25 percent of the actual hotel -motel tax revenue to the DAC. Like the
DCVB, this allocation changed beginning with receipts in January of 2016. Prior to that, the
distribution to the DAC was based on 25 percent of an estimated schedule of hotel -motel tax
revenues. It is now based on 25 percent of the actual amount of revenue.
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History re DAC funding
In 1988, the City began providing funding to the DAC in the form of an annual bed tax grant. In
1997, Council authorized providing 25 percent of the actual hotel -motel tax revenues beginning in
1998 for a three-year period. The commitment by the DAC in order to have this increase was that
they would continue the Art in Public Places program and become the organization through which
all arts grants would be directed. In 2000, the City purchased and renovated the property at 7125
Riverside Drive to house the DAC and provide programming space. At that time, just over $2.1
million of debt was issued. That debt will be retired in 2020. As part of that original lease
agreement, it stipulated there would be an endowment established; the City would pay 25 percent
of the hotel -motel tax revenue, based on a projected amount. It ranged from $405,000 per year to
$730,000 per year. The DAC was to pay rent to the City over the course of 26 years that ranged
from $60,000 to $110,000 annually. It increased at about $2,000 per year. As part of that, the City
would withhold that amount of rent from their monthly distribution of hotel -motel tax. The
agreement also outlined responsibilities related to the facility for each of the parties. The lease
agreement was modified in 2012; the rent was reduced, resulting in a $260,000 savings for the
duration of the agreement. The funding endowment remained at 25 percent of projected hotel -
motel tax revenue; and the DAC was to use the endowment funds for the Art in Public Places
program (AIPPP) and the City was to withhold $75,000 annually from their endowment for that
purpose. Each month, as the distribution is made to the DAC, the City subtracts from this the rent
and the amount for the AIPPP. In 2015, the lease agreement was modified to go back to providing
25 percent of the actual hotel -motel tax revenue. The City has subsequently made additional
improvements to the DAC facility in excess of $650,000 as outlined on the slide.
She shared a graph depicting the payment structure. The blue represents the net revenue paid to
the DAC; the green represents the AIPPP amount; and the red represents the rent for the DAC
building.
In regard to the AIPPP, the monies set aside for this from 2016 through 2019 has not been spent.
In looking at the fund balance of $4.2 million, $300,000 is due to the DAC for the AIPPP.
Community Grants
The budget includes $200,000 programmed each year for the community grant program. The slide
lists the various organizations who have received grants. Grant applications are accepted in the fall
and reviewed by the Finance Committee in late November and then by Council in early December.
The organizations are required to submit receipts and provide documentation of how they have
spent the funds to ensure accordance with the application and grant guidelines.
She shared a graph of the hotel -motel tax fund revenue and expenditures, including the fund
balance. This slide demonstrates that event revenue alone is insufficient to cover the event
expenditures.
She then offered to walk through the various considerations that need to be reviewed.
City's Needs
Ms. Mumma stated that it is important to recognize that the General Fund is subsidizing the
community events. In speaking about the health of the hotel -motel tax fund, it is important to
understand that this fund alone cannot bear 100 percent of its costs.
Some options for the future could include:
--Create more vibrancy in downtown Dublin through a coordinator position or historian.
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--Perhaps events in downtown Dublin could be served by an Event manager and promotions could
be funded for the downtown Dublin events.
--Maintenance and improvements to the Historic District could be funded by hotel -motel tax.
All of these would fit the criteria for use of the hotel -motel tax funds, which criteria can be
modified by Council if desired.
--Future needs of the City — funding for improvements to event venues, funding for future events
at Riverside Crossing Park. It is important to ensure flexibility to accommodate these items to
continue having high quality events as exist today.
--Other items such as a Fieldhouse. In terms of bringing hotel -motel tax revenues to the City with
hotel room stays, a fieldhouse could generate significant revenues for the City.
In terms of City needs, particularly with the revenues and expenditures associated with the Irish
Festival, she believes it is important to have a formal fund balance policy for Hotel -Motel Tax Fund.
It is necessary to look at the fund in totality. With a weather issue resulting in event cancellation or
by burdening the entire fund with the full cost of events, a healthy fund balance would quickly be
depleted.
Looking historically, she reviewed how much of event expenditures is not covered by event
revenue. How much of the hotel -motel tax fund is the City dependent on to cover that gap? Over a
five-year period, in 2015, 86 percent of the bed tax revenue that year was needed to cover net
expenses of the fund. In 2016, 128 percent of the bed tax revenue was needed to meet the
expenses. This graph shows the potential swings from one year to the next, depending upon
revenues and expenditures.
Based on this, if the City wanted to have a 50 percent Hotel -Motel Tax Fund Balance policy or 75
or 125 percent -- based on the 65 percent of the Fund that the City maintains (35 percent is
committed to the DCVB), she will provide some policy options. Staff's recommendation is to
maintain a 100 percent Fund Balance, but she will share later some options for Council to consider.
Dublin Arts Council
The City owns the DAC building, and the debt will be paid off in 2020. Because of the agreement
in place with the DAC, the rent payments will continue through 2027. The question is what
happens to that building when the debt is paid off. This is a consideration for Council.
The provision of 25 percent of actual hotel -motel tax revenue to the DAC is in place through 2026.
Does Council foresee any changes to the distribution, potentially at a higher rate than what is
already provided for in the agreement? What happens at the end of that agreement? These are
considerations to be determined.
Dublin Convention and Visitors Bureau
Does Council intend to continue providing 35 percent of the hotel -motel tax revenue to the DCVB
as opposed to the 25 percent required by law? When Council made that change in 2016, there was
no discussion or timetable for revisiting this. Staff is not recommending one way or another; this is
simply a consideration for Council about whether this percentage should be reviewed periodically.
Community Grant Program
Does Council desire to continue providing grants to the community? If so, should there be any
changes to the process? A couple of years ago, Council approved an administrative review process
for staff to review some routine grant applications, provided the amount was no higher than the
previous year and that the applicant had followed all of the requirements. Is that still something
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Council is comfortable with? Should more focus be placed on applications that include room nights
that generate revenue? Should the DCVB be involved in awarding those grants as opposed to the
City Council doing that? Should more focus be on self-sufficiency of the organizations if they have
received grants for many years? Is there a point in time they should be expected to be self-
sufficient? What is the impact on City operations and funding when City services are provided as a
grant? The General Fund is bearing some of the expenses related to these grants when City
services are involved. Staff would recommend that providing City services for events such as the
Sundays at Scioto would come through a bed tax grant process so that the hotel -motel tax fund
can be charged versus the General Fund. Does Council want to provide funding for races, as
discussed in previous years?
Periodically, discussion is need to ensure everyone is on the same page about these grants.
Other
If Council should want to utilize funds to support the proposed fieldhouse, hotel -motel tax funds
could be used for that. In looking at future events in downtown Dublin and Bridge Street, they
could be funded using bed tax dollars. Programming of events at Riverside Crossing Park could
also be funded through bed tax revenues. Anything that supports the criteria for bed tax grants as
outlined in the Code could be applicable uses for the bed tax dollars. There are a number of
General Fund/operating expenditures that could be charged to this bed tax fund. These could
include maintenance in the Historic District and capital improvements in the Historic District, as
examples.
Next Steps
Clearly, all of these issues cannot be addressed tonight. However, whatever discussion occurs
tonight will be followed up by staff. She recommends preparing a fund balance policy for the hotel -
motel tax fund, if Council is supportive, and this would be brought forward in the future.
At the same time, it is appropriate to review the Code and the criteria for hotel -motel tax fund
spending. There are also some nuances with the bed tax itself and how it is administered that
need to be addressed, given that this Code has not been updated since the late 1980s.
She invited Council discussion.
Council Discussion
Mayor Peterson referenced the bar graph with revenues and expenditures for the bed tax fund.
She had mentioned a $450,000 subsidy from the General Fund for events. Is that amount included
in the expenditures shown on the bar graph, or is that in addition?
Ms. Mumma responded it is an additional item and is not included in the expenditures.
Mayor Peterson noted that the expenditures for events are therefore even higher, after including
this item.
Mayor Peterson asked if room nights for particular events are tracked - perhaps by the DCVB.
Mr. Dring responded that all of that data is tracked. The largest events for room nights are the
Nike Soccer Cup for two weekends in April; the Memorial Tournament; and the Irish Festival.
Those are the top three.
Mayor Peterson asked if there is a way to connect that $450,000 to individual events — those that
may use City manpower, yet generate hotel -motel tax revenue.
Ms. Mumma responded that the $450,000 is largely reflective of City events — the Irish Festival,
Independence Day and St. Patrick's Day. There are not many grants for City services that would
impact the total subsidy amount — generally, these costs are related to City events.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if the Nike Cup receives waivers for City service costs.
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Mr. Dring responded that he believes this event receives a grant for City services.
Ms. Mumma responded this number can be checked and reported back.
(Note: the grant approved by Council in December of 2018 was for up to $7,500 in City services
for the 2019 Nike Cup.)
Ms. Mumma stated that as part of the grant process, the DCVB provides information to the Finance
Committee about the previous year room nights in local hotels for the event.
Mayor Peterson stated he does not have concern about the $450,000 subsidy for City events, as
these events benefit City residents. He would not necessarily support subsidizing events that are
not attended by the general citizenry and that benefit a specific group.
Ms. Alutto agreed, noting that in past Committee discussion for the grants when City services are
requested, it is recognized that the City services are paid for by the General Fund and not by the
bed tax fund.
Ms. Fox asked about the grant criteria. Does the City track the ability for an organization to self -
sustain its event through revenue from the event? She is aware the DCVB regularly provides a pro
forma on their results, and they are self-sustaining. Arts is somewhat different. What is the criteria
for understanding the return on the grant monies provided?
Ms. Mumma responded there is not a mechanism to bring those groups back before Council. Once
the grant is awarded, the organization submits documentation supporting any payment being
requested by the organization. During the application process, the organizations provide
information related to other sources of funding they receive. But there is no post event follow up
or report out on the event.
Ms. Alutto commented that for returning grant applicants, staff prepares the history of the
requestor. But it is not necessarily a follow-up report to the actual event. It may include whether
or not there are more projected room nights for an event in a future year.
Ms. Fox asked about the Memorial Tournament. Is that funding provided out of the General Fund
or the hotel -motel tax fund?
Ms. Mumma responded that any staff time invested in the Tournament support comes from the
respective department budget.
Mr. McDaniel added that there is a sponsorship package for the Tournament, which comes out of
the General Fund. This is one that could be argued should come from hotel -motel tax fund.
He added that this has not been done, because in purchasing a sponsorship, the City has been
able to leverage certain aspects of the sponsorship — such as the villa use — which is used to
celebrate and thank volunteers and the business community, etc. It would be a bit challenging to
ensure this fits the bed tax criteria.
Ms. Fox stated she wants to understand what is the best use of hotel -motel tax funds, given the
many community events and grant requests. She does not have concerns with the City funding the
major Tournament event out of the General Fund as it provides significant benefit to the City.
Mr. McDaniel stated that the question may be whether events such as Spooktacular, tree lighting,
etc. are driving hotel room nights. These are of benefit to the community, but the question relates
to funding support in terms of the budget.
Ms. Fox stated it comes back to what is the best use of bed tax dollars. It is not always just to
increase room nights, but what it gives to the community by bringing more people to Dublin.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes suggested that perhaps these could be divided into inward facing
events and outward facing events — those that attract people to the community and those that are
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for the community. It is easier for her to support General Fund expenditures for inward -facing
events versus outward facing ones. Perhaps this is an easier way to consider this matter. These
are significant dollars.
Ms. De Rosa asked how the six percent tax was established.
Ms. Mumma responded it was established by Dublin Code.
Ms. De Rosa stated that the City could change that to a higher tax, if desired. How does Dublin
compare to other communities in the hotel -motel tax amount levied?
Mr. Dring stated that in the City of Dublin, there is a six percent City hotel -motel tax; a four
percent Franklin County tax; and sales tax. There is an additional tax of .5 percent levied for
Bridge Park hotels. Dublin is one of the highest visitor tax cities in the entire U.S., given the total
of these taxes paid for hotel stays. Likewise are the cities of Columbus, Grove City, Hilliard —
Central Ohio cities.
Ms. De Rosa asked if all of the Central Ohio cities levy six percent.
Mr. Dring responded affirmatively.
Ms. Alutto asked how the Franklin county hotel -motel tax of four percent compares with other
counties.
Mr. Dring responded that Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indianapolis do not have a county tax, and are at
a total of 12-13 percent tax on hotel stays. It is somewhat of a competitive disadvantage.
Ms. De Rosa asked about the four percent that goes to the county — does the City of Dublin see
any part of that?
Mr. Dring responded it does not come back to the City.
Ms. De Rosa stated that is levied by law, correct?
Mr. Dring responded that all of this four percent goes to the Franklin County Convention Facility
Authority, which oversees the Nationwide Arena, the Columbus Convention Center and the Hilton
Hotel downtown Columbus.
Mr. Keenan asked if this was the tax contemplated by Crawford Hoying to provide some funding
for the fieldhouse project.
Mr. Dring responded affirmatively.
Mr. Keenan asked if there is any update on that matter.
Mr. Dring responded he and Mr. McDaniel have talked about this, but believe it is a long shot to
secure any of that Franklin County tax revenue.
Mr. Reiner asked the fieldhouse, and how that is proposed to be funded. He is aware that will be a
constant revenue drain, and it would compete with City needs, Dublin Arts Council, DCVB, and
community grants. In the fieldhouse business, much revenue comes from parking and
concessions. Imposing a charge for parking would impact the Bridge Street District's success as it
includes free parking — so that is not likely. For concessions, his research indicates that both
parking fees and concession revenues would be needed to make the project work. Otherwise,
such a project would be a constant drain to the City. Will the fieldhouse generate the cash needed
to cover this?
Mr. McDaniel responded that the fieldhouse was mentioned in this discussion because of the
ongoing conversation about it. He recognizes that Council's guidance was not to talk about funding
for a fieldhouse, but to focus on the traffic impacts. It is likely there will be a funding request for a
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fieldhouse, and staff has done some analysis on potential funding sources — should Council want to
contribute. Much discussion is needed before anything moves forward. Staff is not advocating for
anything at this time.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked about the H2 Hotel and Bridge Park hotels in terms of the
hotel -motel tax paid.
Ms. Mumma clarified that the two hotels pay the same hotel -motel tax, but receive 25 percent
back per the Bridge Park Development agreement.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if the same arrangement will apply for the next two hotels in
Bridge Park. For H2 Hotel and Bridge Park hotel, is that a defined period, or in perpetuity?
Ms. Mumma stated that the agreement provides for every hotel within the Bridge Park
development and the H2 Hotel. Modifications were made to the development agreement late in
2018. She explained that in 2015, the City did not anticipate the hotel -motel tax funding for the
DCVB would later be increased to 35 percent. That original agreement provided that the Bridge
Park hotels (plus H2 Hotel) would receive 25 percent of the hotel -motel taxes paid back, after the
deduction for the DCVB allocation, which was at that time 25 percent. After that development
agreement was approved, Council increased the amount of annual funding to the DCVB from 25
percent to 35 percent. Because that 25 percent of hotel -motel tax to be returned to the Bridge
Park and H2 Hotels was already pledged for some of the debt service for Bridge Park Community
Facilities, it was necessary to leave those two existing hotels as is. However, for future hotels in
Bridge Park, the language was changed — whatever amount is allocated to the DCVB, the City
takes that off first and the future hotels receive 25 percent back.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes asked if that is in perpetuity.
Ms. Mumma responded that is in place until the Community Facilities debt service is paid off —
most likely, 30 years.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes noted she is trying to anticipate where future hotels would be in
terms of future revenue. There is a projected 2-4 percent hotel -motel tax revenue decrease in
2019, and a 6-8 percent hotel -motel tax revenue decrease in 2020. It appears the revenues will
rebound by 2021. Perhaps if another hotel is added, that increase will likely be delayed.
Ms. Mumma responded it is difficult to estimate, as it is unknown where the saturation point will
be. Absent more City events or a new arena or fieldhouse, it may be simply taking from one hotel
to another newer hotel.
Mr. McDaniel added that the Crowne Plaza will be offline for renovations, so it is difficult to
estimate the 2019-2020 revenues.
Ms. Mumma stated that in terms of the hotel -motel tax revenue itself, investing in things that
generate more of this revenue benefits everyone.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated this is part of her thinking of "inward -facing" versus "outward
facing" delineation — what events generate revenue to the fund and what events are for the
community and serve to build a sense of community.
Mr. McDaniel stated that other items where more discussion is needed are the Downtown Alliance,
and how that can be fueled. Staff has looked at Special Improvement Districts like the Fountain
Square SID in downtown Cincinnati. Funding is invested that regenerates revenue and funds
activities. Trying to generate more activities and events could be fueled, if desired.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that perhaps a couple of organizations could be consolidated
to do this.
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Mr. McDaniel added that staffing and resourcing it appropriately would bring a return on
investment. It could be managed in such a way that it would not impact the General Fund
resources. This would require a lot of study to understand how these work in other cities. Dublin is
now a large enough city, and the potential of City investments in HD, the new park, Bridge Park,
etc. indicate that a SID could make sense.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that many of the grant programs provide a clear return on
investment, such as the HD fagade improvements program and the private equity that has been
generated. But for many grants the City provides, the events occur but little information is
provided about what the event has generated in activity at restaurants or room nights. She would
encourage consolidation of grant recipients into a more organized way so that we could get
feedback to determine if the money is well spent.
Ms. De Rosa noted that the community grants total only $200,000 out of $4 million. She believes it
is important to talk about the grant programs, but more important to talk about the larger
expenditures from hotel -motel tax revenue. Perhaps staff is thinking differently about how to
operate events, as these are the larger numbers. The community grant totals are small, but
important.
Mr. McDaniel responded that perhaps using the inward/outward facing categories, the $200,000
community grants would come from the General Fund as they are community building, and not
bringing in outside visitors.
Ms. De Rosa confirmed that what she hears is that in anticipation of the larger activities that can
be accommodated with the new park, it will require thinking differently about the bigger ticket
expenditures of hotel -motel tax revenues.
Mr. Reiner commented about the community grants. Funding was often provided as "seed money"
to begin a program or event, with the understanding the grant would be for a one or two-year
cycle only. For SIDs, he understands the charges are assessed per lineal foot across the frontage
of a building. The charge is to the businesses, as he understands.
Mr. McDaniel responded that there are different ways to establish improvement districts.
Ms. Crandall added that they are generally based on property tax or square footage of each
property that pays into the SID.
Mr. McDaniel stated that there could be cost per linear foot or frontage foot, or a special
assessment of another type could be leveraged. These tends to be centered around hard
infrastructure reinvestments. There are other ways to infuse funding around a SID that might
relate to more event -driven things — perhaps hotel -motel tax revenues. From that, revenues come,
but stay within the SID.
Ms. Crandall stated that staff can bring back information on the different types of programs that
exist and how they are funded. Staff plans to look at a Main Street program and bring someone in
to discuss that. Perhaps all of this could be discussed at the same time.
Mr. Reiner that in Columbus, a SID was done on a linear cost per face foot of the building. With
that SID, planters were added, trash services were provided, and security provided. He was
surprised that the business owners endorsed it.
Ms. Crandall stated there are a number of SIDs that exist across Ohio, and they have proven to be
successful.
Ms. Fox stated in regard to the utilization of this money, Main Street USA and other organizations
combine historic preservation with economic development and community building. As we discuss
improvements in the Historic District, Bridge Street and Frantz Road, perhaps serious consideration
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should be given to a coordinated and focused energy of a Master Plan on Dublin's Main Street —
which could be from Rings Road all the way to Sawmill. The person in charge would work with the
City's economic development team, the Downtown Alliance and Crawford Hoying — pulling all of
that together in a coordinated way.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that the question regarding the future of the DAC building
should be addressed soon, given the debt is nearly paid off. The City wanted to acquire that
because of the desire to acquire property along the riverfront. She does not have interest in the
City not owning that property. She envisions that one day, the City would own everything up to
Scioto Park. She supports efforts to have all of the property from Scioto Park south to 161 or the
Kiwanis Park owned by the City in the future. She does not have interest in the City not owning
the DAC property.
Mayor Peterson stated he is reviewing the questions before Council tonight to see if there are
some that can be resolved tonight. It seems that the DAC building ownership is a separate,
specific asset for discussion. But many of the issues could be addressed in an update to the Code,
i.e. establishing a fund balance policy for hotel -motel tax; how to account for the $450,000 subsidy
from the General Fund for events; the 35 percent allocation to the DCVB and when that is
revisited. He believes that an updated ordinance could address many of the issues raised tonight.
Ms. Mumma stated that to the extent these items can be addressed at one time, it would be great.
Whether all belongs in Chapter 35 of the Code she is not certain. She would like to have discussion
with Legal staff about the 25 versus the 35 percent. Council has the authority to modify that at
any time.
Mayor Peterson stated the question is whether a regular review of the percentage should be done.
Certainly, future Councils have the discretion to revisit that issue. He noted that he does not want
to lose the momentum on resolving some of these issues. What is the best way forward — a staff
memo that identifies the issues individually with the ordinance being part of that? What is staff's
recommendation? In terms of the DAC building, he does not foresee anything other than the City
owning that building.
Mr. Keenan noted that the building was purchased around 2002, and the property has great
potential. The owner of the property to the north has issues in regard to the outdoor use of the
property, which would help raise revenues and increase public use.
Mayor Peterson stated that is more of a programming issue versus an ownership issue.
Mr. Keenan stated the City has to have ownership of the facility and property before they can
program it. The opportunity to purchase the DAC building was brought forward by Dublin staff and
staff brought a proposal to the DAC for them to locate in the building and lease it back, with help
in providing the funding for the lease via bed tax. That is how the present structure was derived.
There is a large commitment for maintenance for the building as well. He definitely supports
keeping the property under City ownership, given its historical nature and the devotion to the arts
by the Gelpi family.
Mr. Reiner commented that he understands from DAC staff that there has been less issue with
noise from the neighbors. There has always been a goal of acquiring the land between the bridge
and the DAC facility, seeking any opportunities.
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Ms. Alutto stated she would like to have more discussion about the grant process. The form and
process need to be updated. Perhaps that could be handled by a Finance Committee meeting. She
agrees with the questions asked by Ms. De Rosa and Ms. Fox about follow-up — perhaps a survey
is completed at the end before release of funds. She supports Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes'
suggestion of categorizing the inward facing versus outward facing events. She would like to have
a follow-up discussion in an appropriate venue, perhaps Finance Committee.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated that the inward/outward could be a percentage — the Irish
Festival is likely a 60/40 split — 60 percent Dubliners and 40 percent out of town. Staff would have
a good sense of those percentages.
Ms. Mumma stated that in order to facilitate that discussion, staff could take the 18 grant
applications and the information provided as part of that process. It would be appropriate to have
the discussion at a Finance Committee meeting. Even though the Administrative review process
has worked well, staff will articulate all of the steps for the Committee meeting. The Committee
can discuss the matter of repeat applications, as Mr. Reiner has brought up. Having those
organizations come forward every three to five years about their sources of funding for their
program or event could be discussed in that venue.
Mayor Peterson stated that the template could be that used by the DCVB in seeking an increased
percent of bed tax — demonstrating the return on investment from what is spent. The DCVB
articulated well the return on investment from their bed tax funding by the City, and for that
reason, the percentage was increased to 35 percent.
Ms. Alutto added that this would also be an opportunity to review the larger bed tax funding
amounts being given out and what we want that to look like going forward. She would be
interested in having this conversation. She believes everyone is in agreement on the direction
forward, but the timeframe is yet to be determined.
Ms. Fox agreed that the $200,000 in community grant funding is not a major portion of this Fund.
However, she does not want to put a burden on the small organizations who seek these grants.
But the organizations who come for sizable funding should prepare a pro forma of some type to
show how they are utilizing the funds. The DCVB is a great example of the return they provide in
revenues. For the arts, it is more challenging as the room nights are less frequently connected to
the arts. It would be important to help the arts groups become more revenue raisers to help
themselves become self-sustaining. Perhaps not in percentages that are given, but in funding
needs. A good portion of hotel -motel tax revenue goes to two entities. We need to determine if
those are the only two entities the funds should be used for.
Ms. Alutto noted that $200,000 over a period of time actually is a decreasing amount, given the
value of money. Perhaps there is a way to increase that, or should it be tied to a percentage. That
would be another great discussion point, including how that impacts the other pieces of the "pie."
Mr. Keenan noted that Council generally does not grant the entire $200,000 of funds available for
the community grants. Beyond that, the funds allocated are not always utilized as the grant
recipients do not present the documentation to receive the funding. That information is available
from the records.
Ms. Mumma stated that staff can provide that information.
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Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes commented regarding the proposed fund balance policy for hotel -
motel tax. She supports policies as they make decision-making easer. She is in favor of staff
bringing forward a policy for a fund balance for the hotel -motel tax fund. She added that the
financial policies should be somewhat consistent in terms of the General Fund policy.
Ms. Mumma stated that because of the General Fund policy, the Debt policy and the stand-alone
policies such as this, she would prefer to do this separate from the Code regarding the hotel -motel
tax and its collection. She will prepare a fund balance policy to bring forward to Council.
For the other items, they can be discussed when the Code itself is revisited — updating the
language, the procedures for how the tax is collected, language about entities not paying their
taxes — things that need to be tightened up. If there are items discussed tonight that can be
further expanded upon in that section of the Code, staff will do so. But to begin, the items bulleted
in the presentation are specifically what the Code provides as eligible expenses for the tax
revenues. She asked if Council is supportive of those, and if Council wants to see anything added
or removed? The current criteria offers flexibility, but if there is something missing, that can be
considered.
Mr. McDaniel added that, as a result of this discussion, staff could bring back what Council has
validated that they want to continue to do; after those things are subtracted, what remains; and
then items for further discussion. With the partners present tonight who share in bed tax
revenues, he wants to assure them that staff is not advocating change for that. Perhaps there is
more research needed around some of the other items.
Mr. Reiner commented that there is not an arts entity in the country that is self-sufficient, and
there are a lot of intangible benefits. He agrees with Ms. Fox about helping the arts organizations
in their efforts to raise revenue.
Vice Mayor Amorose Groomes stated she supports Mr. McDaniel's idea to consolidate some of the
organizations and efforts for events — particularly throughout the Bridge Street corridor. She would
like to see a more concerted effort, which would help provide some expertise to learn about the
return on these investments.
Ms. Fox agreed, adding that we should think about expanding that outside of the Historic District.
The Main Street USA concept can incorporate the HD and also include the outer edges. In talking
about how we develop Bridge Street, it would be worthwhile to have one voice for all of these
efforts.
Ms. Mumma noted that in terms of grant monies not being utilized, it varies from year to year. In
some years, nearly all of the allocation has been spent, while in other years, only half has been
spent. Much relates to timing as well. But the City has never spent 100 percent of the allocation.
Mr. Reiner asked if there is any carryover year-to-year for monies not granted.
Ms. Mumma responded that at year end, similar to every account, if not encumbered for a
purchase (or grant), the funds are returned to the fund balance. To the extent all of the grant
monies are not spent, that contributes to the fund balance increasing over time.
Mayor Peterson asked if the topics discussed tonight can be handled in a future Council meeting,
versus another work session. He knows that decisions need to be made.
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Mr. McDaniel responded that staff suggests returning with an adopting mechanism — whether a
resolution or staff report — for many of these items. For the remainder, more time is needed to
research them.
The work session was adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
Clerk of Council