HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-06-15 Work Session minutesDublin City Council Work Session
Monday, April 6, 2015
Minutes of Meeting
Vice Mayor Gerber called the Monday, April 6, 2015 Study Session of Dublin City Council to order
at 6:30 p.m. at the Dublin Municipal Building.
Members present were: Vice Mayor Gerber, Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher, Mr. Lecklider, Mr. Peterson,
Ms. Salay and Mr. Reiner. Mayor Keenan was absent (excused).
Staff members present were Mr. McDaniel, Mr. Foegler, Ms. Crandall, Ms. Mumma, Ms.
O'Callaghan, Ms. Readier, Ms. Puskarcik, Mr. Langworthy, Mr. Gunderman, Ms. Husak, and Ms.
Ray.
Also present were:
Greg Daniels, Squires Patton Boggs
Duncan Webb, Webb Business Services
Joelle Angel-Chumbley and Kelly Kolar of Kolar Design
Nelson Yoder, Matthew Starr and Brent Crawford of Crawford Hoying.
• Performing/Cultural Arts Facilities Needs Assessment — Webb Management
Services
Ms. Crandall stated that this is a two-part study. This is the first part, the market analysis; the
second part will be the business plan, or the operational, financial feasibility of the facility. Staff
plans to proceed with the second part of the study, unless Council gives direction otherwise this
evening.
Ms. Crandall noted that in the audience tonight are some individuals with strong interest in this
presentation: from Ohio University -- Peg Kennedy Dygas, Dean of the College of Fine Arts, and
Rachel Cornish, Director of External Relations; from Dublin Dance Centre — Teresa Crye, Kate
Cosgrove, and Stacy Kutza. Also present is Dave Guion, Executive Director of Dublin Arts Center.
The Arts Council has been involved with this project as well as participating in a working group
looking at a summer theater program and the future possibility of a professional theater program.
Duncan Webb, Webb Business Services, stated that he is a management consultant to people who
build, renovate and operate theaters. They work for cities, developers, schools and arts
organizations around the country in completing facilities assessments. They write feasibility
studies, business plans and strategic plans. They have done work in this region over the years.
This is project 341. Their staff has extensive business training — he has a degree in Economics
and an MBA -- and they have all worked professionally in the Arts. He has worked as an actor,
producer and presenter. That is important because they can work with artists and art
organizations, and understand their creative aspirations, and also discuss the fiscal realities
associated with projects like this.
The first half of their study was first to investigate the need for a new performing arts facilities,
and then to consider the potential opportunity to partner with the University on a summer home
for their theater program, and eventually, the creation of a new regional professional producing
theater company based in Dublin. The four key issues in looking at the case for new facilities are:
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1. Is there an audience here, and what do they like/want, and is there a propensity in the
market to increase that audience?
2. What is the level, nature and demand on the part of users — who are the artists, art
organizations, educational and touring programs that need and want more than what they
currently have?
3. What is the current supply of facilities serving the market, and are there gaps that could be
filled with a new facility?
(The above relates to the evaluation of audience demand and user demand vs supply.)
4. Where is the community going and how does this project help the community get there?
What would it do for economic development, cultural tourism, creating new educational
opportunities, and improving the City's ability to attract the kinds of businesses it wants to
locate in Dublin? These issues change a supply and demand question to a community
investment decision. Is this a wise way for you to invest your community's resources to
achieve the vision that you have for the future of Dublin?
The work that has been done so far will lead them to some recommendations. City staff was very
helpful initially in putting together a roster of everyone they should talk to, focusing on those four
issues. There was a good representation of the Arts community and from other constituencies
within the City who care about those broader issues in the future of Dublin.
Audience Demand:
Within the broader forces and trends in the world of Performing Arts, there are some significant
challenges today. Audiences for the traditional performing arts are declining. Students are not
getting the same exposure in schools as they once did, and there is so much competition now and
better access to different kinds of entertainment opportunities. There is a need to define the
market area — how far will audiences travel to and from Dublin. There is an interest within a 15 to
30 mile radius. Dublin itself is a midsize but rapidly growing, with a projected population of 50,000
by year 2020. In regard to demographic characteristics, the most important one in their analysis is
the level of educational attainment. How far an individual advances in school tends to be the
predictor of the likelihood that he/she will participate in arts programs. Within the 15-30 mile
radius of Dublin, there are extremely high levels of educational attainment, and Dublin itself is
almost "off the map" in terms of educational attainment. Also important is the fact that there are
high levels of household income locally. In age distribution, Dublin itself has a high concentration
of ages 45-54, but also of children. So there is a programming challenge here — to program for
both age groups. There is some racial diversity within the community. It has a significant Asian
population locally but also a significant African American population within the 15-30 mile range.
Anecdotally, they hear that 60 different languages are spoken within Dublin City Schools.
Their interest is primarily in the resident population, but also in visiting audiences. Dublin already
has 2.6 million visitors, most of whom are connected to the corporations located within the
community. Most of the visitors are from the regional area. The challenge for them is the lack of
convention and meeting space, which is relevant to their work. A 2011 survey regarding brand
effect suggested that some people visit for events and attractions, but not many go to
performances. They are much more likely to participate in less formal community festivals, fairs,
etc. Some respondents did indicate that they would be much more likely to visit with the presence
of more cultural and arts events, so there is some potential within that segment.
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They concluded that the local market is small but strong; the regional market is significant in size
and has a strong propensity; the tourist market is very significant in terms of size and has the
demographic characteristics to make it attractive. Anecdotally, regional arts groups report that
northern Columbus, including Dublin, represents a significant market opportunity. There are
significant market segments within the local and regional population -- the Asian population for
programs specifically for them, families for family programming, middle -age, empty nesters and
tourists for varieties of offerings.
User Demand:
Dublin is fortunate to have the Dublin Arts Council, which delivers a very strong visual arts and
public arts program. In their interviewing, it was suggested to them that there are some significant
gaps in programming, that there is a desire for more theater, music, dance, opera, camps and
family programming. There is a general sense that the Abbey Theater is under-utilized, although
they don't believe most people realize the limitations technically and calendar -wise that space has.
They conducted a significant inventory of all the facilities in and around Dublin, including a large
group of 67 buildings, eight of which are in Dublin. The Abbey is the only true community
performance facility, but it has some significant technical limitations. There is a small amount of
producing within less formal facilities, and there are very little presentations occurring in Dublin
because there aren't the facilities to support that. The local facilities are generally well equipped,
but there is very limited availability for outside groups. As depicted on the graphs, they rated the
67 spaces on the basis of eight attributes — acoustics, theatrical functionality, amenities for
audiences, backstage amenities, staff skill, suitability for various events and seating capacity of the
venue. Dublin has moderate quality facilities with a big gap in the 200-500 seat range. There are
some better facilities with larger capacities. However, within the region there are very good
facilities at most capacity ranges, and it is important that Dublin not compete with the larger
Columbus regional facilities. Dublin needs to develop facilities that can compete successfully in and
for Dublin. Their conclusions are Dublin lacks local facilities for active participation. Except for the
Abbey Theater, there are only re -purposed school and church venues and few with high
availability. There are a couple of good examples of suburban venues within the region, including
those in Worthington and New Albany. There are some precedents for regional buildings that are
able to compete successfully against the larger capacity Columbus facilities.
Ms. Salay inquired how large are the facilities in Worthington and New Albany.
Mr. Webb responded that their capacities are between 500 and 1,000. Their assessment includes
information on the needs of the various arts groups and school programs. It is not one discipline or
group. There is a significant demand for capacity within the 300-500 seat range for different
groups and types of programs, and a smaller demand in the 900 -seat range or for a smaller
facility.
Key Potential Partners
The University of Ohio is very important, as they have expressed the desire to initially develop the
summer professional theater program. Dublin Recs and Parks is key for developing programs in
addition to the Abbey Theater. Dublin City School is very interested in having access to higher
quality facilities for their students. Some presenting organizations, such as the Asian Festival, want
to have more active programs in and for Dublin, as well as the regional professional producing
theater — professionals that create quality art within that venue. They looked at whether there is a
market opportunity for an organization like that based in Dublin to serve a larger market area.
Within the area, there are two producing professional theater organizations, but they do see the
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opportunity to add one with a university partnership. They compared the professional producing
theater in the Columbus region with three other markets of similar size and educational
attainments — Indianapolis, Cleveland and Austin. They looked at the number of estimated annual
professional theater seats sold per capita. In this area, there is .01 estimated annual theater seats
sold per capita; .06 in Cleveland; .09 in Austin, and 1.9 in Indianapolis, so they see a significant
market opportunity here.
Dublin is doing good planning in Dublin and a recent update to the Community Plan added public
art as a key element of Dublin's character. Other priorities expressed in their interviews were that
it is important to build and retain a younger workforce, and these types of amenities are very
important as Dublin continues to build on a strong base of corporations and businesses.
They believe that there is strong case to develop a new arts facility here:
• The market is strong;
• There are gaps in the existing inventory of facilities;
• There are programming opportunities to complement what already exists here;
• There are some very strong potential partners with the ability to develop quality
programming;
• There is a local user demand;
• New facilities would support City goals and priorities and provide positive economic impacts
to the community.
Recommendations:
#1 - A New Community Arts Center with Support Facilities
• A new 400+ seat performance space with flexibility -- a convertible space, not fixed
theater seating, to be able to accommodate a flat floor event and, ideally, have a fly
tower.
• An additional multipurpose space for rehearsals, which could also be used as a
secondary smaller performance space.
• Larger public spaces with significant food and beverage capabilities.
• Classrooms and other program space.
Benefits:
• Helps with the beginning of the University's plan to develop the summer
professional arts program.
• Complements the Abbey Theater; allows certain performances to be held in a
larger, more professional facility.
• Responds to the demand of local groups.
• Would complement the proposed banquet conference center due to its proximity.
Examples:
• The new $47 million Theater for New Audiences in Brooklyn.
• The new 25,000 square foot, 300 -seat flexible theater with additional support
spaces for a producing theater company in an arts district in Cleveland, at a cost of
$7.3 million.
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#2 - A Cultural District
• Locating the theater in the Bridge Street District would allow partnering with the
developer and other arts organizations to animate that area with the Community
Arts Center as the anchor.
• Encourages public art and temporary art installations.
• Incentivizes art businesses to locate in and around that area.
• Builds on the strength of the Dublin Arts Council
• Helps to develop a cultural identity and promotes the new Town Center as a
destination.
Examples:
• Lowell, Mass — new cultural district — developed with a combination of visual,
literary performing arts; lots of programming; seven annual festivals.
• Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, CA -- a model of a pedestrian
neighborhood with great outdoor programming, indoor programming with a series
of cultural anchors and a series of annual eight district -wide events — big festivals.
#3 — Pursue Partnership with the University
• Starting out as the Summer Theater Festival, but headed toward the idea of a
regional producing professional theater company.
• Market has the capacity to support that.
• The program and space would create a unique attraction in Dublin.
• The project has the potential to contribute to a series of goals Council has set for
Dublin in regard to a Town Center development, accommodating a younger
workforce, and corporate recruitment.
• The University is approaching this in an incremental fashion, beginning with the
Summer Theater Festival, and seeing where that might lead in regard to a long-
term project.
If the University wants to come in with a producing theater venue, it would impact their
recommendation, as there are some physical requirements associated with that. There
are good models for this type of partnership. Most of them tend to occur on campuses,
but there are good examples in St. Petersburg and in Toronto.
Considerations:
• The interviews were largely positive about the idea, but there are some appropriate
questions about sustainability.
• The concept is relatively unique, as most producing partnerships occur on
campuses.
Next steps:
Undertake the Business Plan to look at programming, operation and sustainability. We are working
in close concert with the University, developers, dance groups, etc. to get everyone aligned and
moving forward at the right pace to achieve this project for this community.
Council Questions:
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that it seems that the impetus and continuation of this project is the
need for a partnership with the Ohio University.
Mr. Webb responded that is what initiated the assessment, but now he can certainly suggest that
there is demand for facilities that are beyond what the University has expressed. There is
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justification for a project with or without the University as a partner. A partnership with the
University creates a stronger project and allows the City to do more sooner.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that without the University, the City would need a production
company.
Mr. Webb responded that with the University producing, the facility is a rental house for
presenters. It moves the emphasis away from producing to renting and presenting, which is
actually more typical.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher inquired if the second phase of this assessment concerns the finances and
method of funding.
Mr. Webb responded that his work in the second half is writing the business plan: who will use
the building; more specific estimates regarding the activities over the first five years; who will own
the facility or various governance options; who will operate it; how do the partnerships occur; and
the performa operating budget, estimating revenues and expenses associated with the operation
of the building. The building is sustained with a combination of earned income — rent, ticket sales,
food, and contributed income — grants, donations. They will be working on the operating
component. The question of the capital budget — how the City pays to build the facility, is a
different effort.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that many of these types of facilities are physically where the
universities are located. In this case, there will be a significant distance between. If the options
were completely open, would he have recommended that the theater be closer to the University?
Mr. Webb responded that what has happened here reflects the larger trend within the educational
sector. The University has requested to have a presence here in this community, so they are
deciding that they want to be off campus. Many colleges and universities are now doing that. They
are trying to get closer to their constituencies. Being on the traditional campus is not an easy way
to do that. He loves the idea of partnering with the educational sector, particularly getting them off
campus and into a downtown, more urban context. It is their idea, but it is a great idea and he
believes Dublin should support it.
Mr. Reiner inquired if it is a fact that OU is interested in moving the theater off campus.
Mr. Webb responded that they are. The original impetus for that was that for many years, the
University had a summer theater program in Cape Code. The idea was to get students away from
the university, live in Cape Code for the summer and put on shows. They have lost that site, so
they were looking for a new place for the students to have a summer theater program. They were
motivated to reach out to constituencies within the Columbus region.
Mr. Lecklider inquired if Otterbein University and their theater program was included in their study.
Ms. Crandall responded that they looked at the venue, but not the actual program.
Mr. Lecklider stated that they have a good reputation for their theater programming. He enjoys it
greatly, but the attendance is a concern — typically, far from selling out. Perhaps that is a reflection
of the size of the venue, perhaps close to 1,000 seats.
Mr. Webb responded that this is a different opportunity. It is not just giving Dublin the opportunity
to see theater developed by the University. It is the University saying that they want to develop
theater at a quality level in which the community and region wants to participate. It is not that the
audience comes to see what the University teaches the students to do; rather, it is that the
University will produce theater at a high level of quality that can compete in the market.
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Ms. Crandall stated that the goal is to have a professional theater company that is affiliated with
and somewhat financially supported by OU, but would be its own 501C3 — a stand-alone
professional theater company that will build up to performing 26+ weeks per year within this
facility. It will have opportunities for OU theater students to play a role in that year round.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that if this is a partnership, will they be the leader or the City? Will the
City be in charge of production and promotion — how will that work?
Ms. Crandall responded that they have not decided all those components yet, whether the City
would fund and operate the facility. Probably, the City will not operate the facility. The New Albany
facility is now operated by CAPA. Dublin probably would prefer to find a professional company to
operate it.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated he has no qualms about moving to the next step to evaluate the
sustainability of it. They are talking about a partnership, but he senses that they are suggesting
that the City acquire the property, construct the building, and maintain the building.
Mr. Crandall responded that isn't necessarily so. The City has had some conversations with
Crawford Hoying, and they are interested in this facility, as well. We would look at that in the
second part of this study.
Mr. Webb responded that generally the way in which communities address that question is by
looking at the totality of the funding issue — money to build and money to sustain. They consider
the best way for the public sector and the private sector to contribute to the project — a mix of
support that the City, taxpayers and voters of this community are comfortable with.
Mr. Lecklider stated that he cannot evaluate this until the next step has occurred, the assessment
of the operational costs, although he is enthusiastic about the concept. If this is built, it is there
forever. He would be concerned about the extent to which the City of Dublin would be asked to
sustain that financially. Just as important is who will fund the facility's construction.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that when looking at the next phase, they need to learn what New
Albany and Worthington have done, including the overall purposes of those buildings, as opposed
to exclusively theater. Great stress has been put on the arts community in the last 15 years or
longer in central Ohio. It was through the development of the CAPA partnership that they have
now not only survived, but thrived. She would want them to be an intimate part of this, because
they know what they are doing. In regard to management, ticket sales, etc., the City does not
need to get into that business as there is already a highly -skilled, successful source available. CAPA
should be included in the next phase discussion.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that staff is requesting direction from Council.
Council consensus was to proceed with the second part of the assessment.
Vice Mayor Gerber inquired the projected timeframe for completion of the second phase.
Ms. Crandall responded that the consultant has indicated two — three months, and they will
attempt to complete it in two months.
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• Proposed Wayfinding — Kolar Design
Mr. Langworthy stated that some time ago, Kolar Design began to work with staff on a project to
improve the quality and visibility of wayfinding markers for the Historic District. That effort
morphed as more of the Bridge Street Project District projects began to come forth and it was
recognized that there was a larger need for getting people to different destinations. The
wayfinding effort expanded into City-wide destinations. He introduced Kolar Design
representatives, Joell Angel-Chumbley and Kelly Kolar.
Joell Angel-Chumbley stated that they have been working with City staff and external community
stakeholders to accumulate background information for this project. In the initial steps, they
conducted an audit and discovery process, which was key to developing a strong strategy that was
holistic for the City. The interview process enabled them to acquire an understanding of the issues,
strengths and opportunities within the City for improving the visitor experience, making
observations about what is existing and could be built upon to create a strong wayfinding strategy
for the City. One of the issues is the difficulty of understanding the boundaries of the City, and the
wayfinding strategy needs to define those. The project is being approached as a multi -modal
transportation system opportunity, both vehicular and pedestrian experiences. Their audit included
visual images of all the City facilities, stakeholder buildings and City gateways. Opportunities they
could build upon include:
o Recognize the City's strong public art program. There is some identification signage now,
but they are out of scale. The City needs to have a more powerful expression of who it is.
o The Dublin Historic District markers need to be much more prominent.
o Because Dublin is recognized regionally for its "Field of Corn," build upon that unique
identity.
They will build upon those opportunities in integrating the Dublin brand "from the highway to the
hallway." Initial navigation begins on the highway, so there is a need to make sure the navigation
makes sense from the highway into the City.
Dublin Brand:
Currently, City signage is built upon the typical ODOT information system, but they would like to
bring the Dublin brand more to life through the signage system that they will recommend.
They have been working with Community Relations and key City staff to understand the brand, to
look at how the City shows who it is two -dimensionally, three -dimensionally and virtually. They
look at the City holistically in developing a new signage system. Their analysis includes the Dublin
typography, color palette — specifically the Dublin gray, making it integrate with architectural
language. In building upon the brand, they look at both the print brand and the architectural brand
of the City. They will bring in elements of each.
Kelly Kolar stated that it is important to know that the existing City of Dublin brand tells a great
story about Dublin, its roots, and its heritage through its festivals and celebrations. However,
Dublin's landscape has a very unique sense of place — beautiful stone walls, greenways, pedestrian
paths and neighborhoods. When we develop a wayfinding system, we want to make sure that it is
carefully and artfully integrated within the built environment. The examples they will show build on
the existing brand but also lean more toward the sense of place and the artful aspects of the City.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley stated that there is a very strong sense of place in Dublin's Historic District,
and they want to build upon that beautiful architecture. They want the wayfinding system to
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appear as if it has been part of that environment all along. They have attempted to capture the
essence of that architectural language. Dublin's public art program provides an opportunity to build
upon within the gateways in creating a sense of arrival into the City. They captured a few of the
City's assets into a collection. As we go forward, we will begin to bucket these into different types
of assets — historical, educational, ecological, cultural, social and civic assets. These are things
people come to Dublin to experience.
Strategy:
o Must be comprehensive, effective, flexible, cost-effective and maintainable.
o All the destinations must be connected through a multi -modal system that includes
vehicular, pedestrian, bicycle, potential future transit, and public parking connectivity.
o Reflects a strong brand connected to the Dublin brand.
o The sequencing includes the interstate to the main arteries that connect to the primary
destinations within the City, to public parking, and pedestrian navigation.
o A sign '"experience" with zones:
o Zone 1 - highway signage — large-scale
o Zone 2 — gateway signage — initial wayfinding
o Zone 3 — pedestrian -scale signage — smaller wayfinding
o Policy and criteria for what is placed on the signs.
o Placement and frequency of the signage. They look at the key historical, educational,
ecological, cultural, social and civic institutions, including the attendance factor in
determining how valuable the asset is to the City. Placement in tiers determines the
frequency of the sign; higher tiers/more important destinations receive more signs, and
placement could begin right off the highway ramps.
o Connectivity of the signage. No breaks in the trail.
o Organizational strategy can be based upon either individual attractions or districts first.
They are recommending a hybrid of both — attractions first, but incorporates districts as
they become distinct enough to serve as destinations The Historic District is currently the
identifiable district, but Bridge Street District development will enforce the identify of that
distinct area. The Districting nomenclature can grow.
o A system that is changeable and flexible to accommodate the City's changes that are
occurring. The base will build on the stone language in the City, but it will be a flexible
modular that is interchangeable to a solid panel. All the elements are changeable. The
base in the Bridge Street District could be more modern than that in the Historic District.
Kelly Kolar stated that the flexible signage will save money. The poles and foundations would be a
one-time investment; the signs themselves would be inserted, so can be removed/updated. These
could be made in the City's inhouse sign shop.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley stated that in the Historic District, they recommend a finial at the top of the
sign poles. That feature wouldn't be necessary around the edges of the City. The base cover could
be a changeable element, as well. The signage should be a universal design with changeable
components that can be specialized for an area.
Ms. Kolar noted that the goal is to create a distinctive look that is uniquely Dublin, using
simplification and unification as they build out the character that reflects Dublin's sense of place.
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Ms. Angel-Chumbley stated that they have looked at the ODOT signage and identified ways to
integrate and combine signage that would have typically been ground mounted. There are ways to
consolidate signage into one unit, eliminating much of the sign congestion on the ground. They
have also been asked to look at a new standard for the regulatory sign pole system, so that the
poles are more integrated on signature streets within the City, and they are currently working with
City staff on that standard and pricing. There has been initial City review of their recommended
signage, and they are working on finalization of the policy and criteria. A preliminary budget was
presented earlier. The signs are being integrated into the Riverside/SR 161 projects. Some of the
sign foundations will be put in with roadway projects, so that could reduce the cost.
[Examples shown of how other cities are beginning to look at signage.]
Mr. Reiner inquired if on the signs that say Dublin do they sometimes include symbology next to
the name, or just the name of the City?
Ms. Angel-Chumbley the sign purpose is functionality. The back side of the signs could present an
opportunity to add brand. However, the way in which they are integrating the brand is through the
architectural style and finials in the Historic District.
Mr. Reiner inquired if a unifying color would be selected, such as Easton has — royal blue.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley responded that they are building on the silver gray in the Dublin brand
palette. Although it shows up as gray right now, it is actually a metallic pewter color. They are
using a neutral palette. They had not intended to add color to the panels, but let them remain
neutral and integrated into the architecture.
Mr. Reiner inquired if the reason is that they are easier to read.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley responded that it brings a level of sophistication that integrates with the
downtown area. There, it is a neutral palette with the blacks and the rich stone, so we were trying
to build on an elegant aesthetic.
Ms. Salay stated that she likes that idea, particularly when the existing signage is a sign salad. She
also likes the finials. Perhaps a shamrock finial could be used throughout Dublin, then a District -
specific finial within the Historic District.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley stated that the aesthetic is meant to be timeless and classic, and the neutral
palette does that.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that the size of the letters can make signs difficult to read from a car
moving above a certain speed. She assumes that issue is addressed, as well. She also likes that
only the street name is used on the sign. Other items distract from the readability. This is not
exclusively a pedestrian city.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley responded that when they looked at how to integrate the sign poles into the
built environment, there are some streets that will not be re -done and there are also some
beautiful signature streets that will be constructed. They are working closely with MKSK to
integrate the sign locations and poles as part of their streetscape rhythm and standards.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher requested if staff desires Council action tonight.
Mr. Langworthy responded that staff is requesting Council confirmation that they are heading in
the right direction.
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Vice Mayor Gerber stated that Council just received the packet materials this evening, so he will
need more time to review it. He noted that the price appeared high.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that the price is for the entire City, which would not be done all at
once.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley stated that they are working with engineering staff to develop an
implementation plan, which could be phased over a couple of years or many years.
Mr. McDaniel stated that currently Dublin does have a "sign salad." Identifying the various districts
will make this a great wayfinding system for the City, which is desperately needed. No specific
direction is expected of Council tonight, but an indication if the wayfinding project appears to be
heading in the right direction. Although the project focused initially on the Historic District, it was
expanded to tie in everything. Things can be phased in over time through future budget cycles.
For those things that are needed quickly, more refined guidance can be sought from Council at a
future Council meeting.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that the project seems to heading in the right direction.
Mr. Lecklider concurred.
Ms. Salay stated that currently the City's street signs are dark brown with white letters; the
examples seem to have that reversed. Are we planning to reverse what is current?
Ms. Angel-Chumbley responded that there has been a change in the ODOT standard that now
requires the opposite of that, so City Engineering recommended that we reverse the two colors. It
is now black on white, based on the ODOT standard.
Ms. Salay inquired if that will be within the Historic District, or City wide.
Ms. Angel-Chumbley responded that it will be City-wide, based upon the national standard.
Mr. McDaniel noted that it is a standard that has existed for some time, but because no funding
was attached to it, communities have been slow in implementation. Staff will provide more
specifics regarding that requirement.
• Update on Crawford Hoying Bridge Park Development
Vice Mayor Gerber inquired if this is scheduled for Planning and Zoning Commission review.
Ms. Ray responded that it is scheduled for May 7 PZC review.
Mr. Foegler stated that because this is scheduled for PZC review, the information before Council
tonight is largely related to plats, agreements and related documents. This will keep Council up to
date on what has been submitted or will be submitted and reviewed by PZC. Council has expressed
interest in earlier versions, and this reflects the latest version related to the buildings which are
moving forward. The project on the east side of the river will be reviewed by PZC on May 7, and
ARB will approve the project on the west side of the river on April 15. We can answer any
questions Council may have with regard to the review process. The developer is present tonight to
answer questions, as well.
Ms. Ray presented the update. The Bridge Park project is proposed as two separate pieces: Bridge
Park East - on the east side of the Scioto River and Bridge Park West - in the Historic District. City
Council reviewed and approved the Basic Development Plan and a Basic Site Plan for the initial
phases of the Bridge Park mixed-use redevelopment project on January 20, 2015. The applicant
filed the application for Development Plan Review and Site Plan Review for the initial two -block,
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four building site on February 25, 2015. The proposal for this 3.47 acre site includes 153 dwelling
units; 91,700 square feet of Office; 47,000 square foot of Commercial; and one 863 -space parking
garage. The application is scheduled to be reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Commission on
May 7, 2015. Since the Basic Plan review, they have been working with the applicant on the
streetscape details, which include all the elements in the pedestrian realm — bicycle facilities, patio
spaces — all the details that happen in the space between the streets and the building spaces. She
shared updated elevations and prospective renderings.
• Building C1 is located the farthest north at the corner of Riverside and Tuller Ridge and will
have commercial uses on the ground floor and four stories of residential above.
• Building C2 is at the landing point of the bridge, at the corner of Bridgepark Avenue and
Riverside Drive. They have been working with the applicant to get the terminal vista of that
tower element on the corner to be prominent at that gateway. It is an entirely commercial
building with restaurant and retail on the ground floor and four stories of office above.
• Building C3 is on Bridgepark Avenue up the street from Building C2. It has commercial on
the ground floor, office on the second floor and three floors of residential above.
• Parking structure building is wrapped on two sides by residential uses. Proposed pedestrian
bridges will connect the upper residential stories of two buildings to the parking structure.
Bridge Park West is the 2.4 acre site in the Historic District on the east side of Dublin Road. In two
and 1/2 stories on High Street, there will be commercial uses on the ground floor, and office above.
On the back, will be residential units facing the river; forty residential units are proposed. This site
has been in the review process longer. The Basic Plan, development plan and demolition requests
have all been approved. The site plan, which has all the final architecture details and open spaces
is scheduled for ARB review on April 15.
[renderings shown]
Mr. Foegler stated that the design question now regards the size of the pedestrian landing area.
Vice Mayor Gerber inquired if these are the drawings that will be reviewed by PZC in a few weeks.
Ms. Ray responded affirmatively — they reflect the general character and direction.
Ms. Salay inquired if the circled examples in the street elements actually planned.
Ms. Ray responded that they are intended to show the character envisioned.
Ms. Chinnici-Zuercher stated that she still has many concerns about the buildings on the east side.
They look very standard compared to what is occurring in central Ohio at this time.
Mr. Reiner inquired how the sheeting on the parking garages would be accomplished.
Ms. Ray responded that in regard to wrapping the two sides — essentially, they are residential units
from the ground to the top. The applicant can provide more technical detail, if desired.
Mr. Reiner stated that there are many ways to wrap a parking garage to make it look attractive, so
how that would occur here.
Nelson Yoder, Crawford Hoying, stated that two sides are completely lined with residential units.
On the other two sides of the parking garage that are open, they are using a combination of brick
and mesh panel, which has a brushed aluminum look, combined with some subtle LED lighting to
create a nice effect. These drawings are not good representations of the actual materials.
However, they have commissioned and completed a series of much more realistic renderings,
which they will share with Council.
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Ms. Salay inquired if, in addition to the renderings, samples of the actual materials would be
brought to the PZC meeting.
Mr. Yoder responded that they will have actual materials, as well. In regard to the proposed vinyl
windows, which were a concern of PZC -- after much more vetting, they have completely
eliminated them from the project in favor of all aluminum windows. That decision was made due
to transparency requirements, the desired look, and BSC code requirements. There will be large
windows everywhere, providing much light for all the units. They found that the amount of
reinforcement required for the high quality vinyl windows was driving the cost up to the point that,
for a little more, they could afford a "Cadillac" aluminum window.
Ms. Salay stated that there appear to be a significant amount of metal panels. PZC and Council
have expressed concern about the longevity and appearance. When their appearance begins to
deteriorate, what can be done to remedy that? She would like to see some examples of buildings
where their appearance has been sustained for a long period of time.
Mr. Yoder responded that, in addition to windows, they have been systematically evaluating what
they are proposing and where. Many of the metal panels have been replaced with hardi or fiber
cement panels. This change was based on feedback received from Council as well as PZC and
staff, so there will be much less of that in the final version. They have also eliminated a lot of
EIFS, as well. There are certain applications for which that still makes sense, but they are
continuing to work through the final details on that with staff. The compromise may be that they
use fiber cement. It is a fairly cost -neutral decision. It is more a matter of what is the highest
quality installation, the longevity, and what the City is comfortable with. It could be that in the
end, they will have a project that is essentially 100% hardiplank, as well as brick, stone and
aluminum windows. He believes that is the direction that PZC, Council and staff would prefer.
Mr. Reiner stated that he is concerned about the synergy of the commercial component. Are they
confident that there will be sufficient synergy within that area for that use to succeed, and
sufficient parking to pull in people who do not live within that District?
Mr. Yoder responded that they believe they are definitely there. The redesign of the parking
garages with pedestrian bridges added at the upper levels is the key to that. Levels one — three
will be dedicated to public, commercial parking; there is a direct ramp to Level 4 for the residents
in Building Cl; a ramp to Level 5 for residents in Building C3; and Level 6 is for overflow residential
parking as well as restaurant staff. Visitors to the District can park in Levels one — three without
having to co -mingle with resident parkers. The feedback from potential tenants has been positive,
and they have had excellent results in pre -leasing activities. They will begin to publically announce
some of those tenants in the near future.
Mr. McDaniel thanked Council for their time and the ability for staff to provide these updates.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Clerk of Council