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FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
Monday, August 10, 2015
Council Chambers
Minutes of Meeting
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher, Chair, called the meeting to order at 5:45 p.m.
Finance Committee members present: Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher and Vice Mayor Gerber. Mr.
Lecklider arrived later.
Also present were Mayor Keenan and Ms. Salay.
Staff present: Mr. McDaniel, Ms. Mumma, Ms. Crandall, Mr. Kridler, Chief von Eckartsberg, and
Mr. Smith.
Vice Mayor Gerber moved approval of the minutes of the April 13, 2015 Finance Committee
meeting.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
New Deputy Finance Director
Ms. Mumma introduced Sean Smith, new Deputy Finance Director. He comes to Dublin from the
Public Utilities Commission of Ohio, where he served as the Chief Financial Officer.
Financial Update — Second Ouarter 2015
Ms. Mumma stated that the City continues to be in strong financial health. The advance done for
the $22.6 million contract for the Riverside Drive relocation and roundabout resulted in a General
Fund balance of $40 million, leaving it with a 60.8% balance for other General Fund expenditures
for the year. Absent that advance, the City would have had a 95% reserve for General Fund
expenditures. Those advanced funds will be reimbursed to the General Fund when the bonds are
issued in late September. Even with that advance to the Construction Fund, the General Fund
remained above the 50% reserve level that is required.
Revenues
Income tax revenue is the primary driver of revenue for the City, particularly for the General
Fund balance. Income tax revenues through June were down almost three percent, or $1.3
million, over the same period last year, but this was not unexpected. The City was aware there
would be a loss due to the move of Verizon to Hilliard. However, withholdings were only down
.4 %. So, despite the loss of revenue from Verizon, the remaining businesses in Dublin are
making up for that loss. Through the second quarter, the top ten taxpayers were actually up
1.24 %. Year -to -date revenues (through July) are down 2.6% over the same period last year,
which is an improvement from the 2.9% decrease through June. For August, month to date, the
revenues were up 17 %. It is important to note that this reduction in revenue was expected and
was taken into account when income tax revenue projections were made for 2015 and forward.
Because the revenues are exceeding those expectations, however, the income tax revenue
projection for the year was increased two percent. It is still shown as a decline from last year,
but based on what has occurred through the first half of the year, it appears that the revenues
will not be down as much as anticipated. We remain conservative in our planning. Based on
what has been seen and the activity, the revised projection has been used as the basis for
planning the 2016 -2020 CIP budget.
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Expenses
Key changes in revenue and expenditures for the year are outlined in the memo. The property
tax and service payments that have been received have actually been off the entire year, as
there was a delay in the City's receipt of those payments through the first half of the year.
Consequently, the other distributions received from Franklin County have made it very difficult to
calculate an apples -to- apples comparison to other years. After the second half distribution, which
should occur in August, staff will be able to report a more accurate picture of the City's real
estate property tax revenues as well as service payments. From what has been seen so far, there
is nothing out of the ordinary that was not expected. It is simply a matter of timing, when
making comparisons quarter to quarter and year to year.
Revenue — Highlights
The income tax revenue decline caused a decline in the total General Fund revenues for the
quarter, which were down $1.2 million. Other areas in the City's governmental revenues were
down about nine percent. That is a reflection of changes in the estate tax. There were some
follow -up distributions last year through the second quarter that the City did not receive again
this quarter. The phase -out of those revenues continues. There was a decline in Building Permits,
which translates into a reduction in Licenses, Fines and Permits line item. Permit activity has
decreased through June. Approximately 224 building permits were issued through June of this
year, whereas the permits issued last year during this period of time was 331.
Expenses — Highlights
The City is running at four percent over the same period of time last year. Staff's memo contains
the rationale for those increased expenditures. A portion of those were for Contractual Services,
which includes Legal fees. There was also an increase in Personal Services, which for the most
part, was due to higher health insurance costs, as discussed during the Operating Budget review
last year.
Income tax revenues are ahead of what was budgeted, so staff believes the City is in a strong
position as it enters the second half of this year.
Council Questions
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher inquired the reason the Hidaka real estate valuation was decreased so
substantially.
Ms. Mumma responded that they filed a request for a Board of Revision review and decision. She
will learn the basis for that and report back to Council.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher stated that she would like that information as the valuation was reduced by
over 60 percent.
Mr. McDaniel stated that it is possible that Hidaka is positioning to absorb additional
improvements on their land. They are undertaking an expansion at the back, so some of that
value may return.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher stated that there has been an increase in Hotel -Motel Tax revenue. When
was the last time a new hotel came online?
Ms. Mumma responded that a new hotel came online in July, but it is not reflected in these
numbers.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher stated that would seem to indicate the usage of hotel -motel rooms is up.
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Ms. Mumma responded that there are more overnight stays as reflected in the hotel -motel tax
numbers.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher stated that compared to other municipalities, Dublin has a large amount of
income and a good reserve. However, she is concerned that while the City's income has
decreased, yet expenditures have increased. If that trend were to continue, the result would not
be positive. Is staff aware of any other companies that plan to move out of Dublin?
Ms. Mumma responded that the only other company staff is aware of is Nationwide. Staff is not
anticipating a loss in revenue related to Nationwide to begin until the latter part of 2016, and
that has been taken that into account in the 2016 and 2017 projections.
Mr. McDaniel stated that he is also not aware of any other companies with plans to leave. There
may be some consolidation activity by one of the companies, but staff is hopeful that will take
place within a building in Dublin. The Blackstone Group recently purchased three buildings in
Dublin. Staff has a contact in New York for that group, and he has asked Ms. Goss and Ms. Gilger
to reach out to them and attempt to develop that relationship to gain a better awareness of their
intent with those buildings.
Mr. Lecklider inquired the location of the buildings.
Mr. McDaniel responded that they are in the Tuttle Crossing area. One is the Atrium Building.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher responded that they are the ones that were considered Duke buildings.
Mr. McDaniel stated that Blackstone has a history of investing in buildings, and the lease rates
have been very competitive. He is hopeful for more of the same.
Ms. Mumma commented in regard to the concern expressed about revenue decline and increased
expenditures. There are two things to keep in mind: first, staff monitors the income revenues
daily, and apprises Mr. McDaniel daily and Council monthly about the status. When looking at the
2015 expenditures, a comparison is made with what was budgeted for the year. All that is
budgeted is never spent. Therefore, from a comparative standpoint, expenses may be increased
over the same period of time last year, but the fact that the City is ahead of where we budgeted
helps take that into account. When staff presents the Operating Budget, there is a conservative
approach to revenue estimates, and expenditures are estimated as higher than expected. The
expenditures generally do not end up being what is appropriated in the budget. The gap exists
because of conservative revenue estimates and the fact that the City does not spend all that is
appropriated. However, the declining revenue environment due to the Verizon loss and upcoming
Nationwide loss will certainly be taken into consideration in preparing the 2016 Operating Budget
in order to avoid using General Fund reserves.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher stated that for several years, additional staff positions were not approved.
Last year, several were approved, because it appeared that the City was in a financial position to
do so. Now, with revenue decreasing, this is a concern.
Vice Mayor Gerber commented that the number of building permits issued has decreased. Does
staff have a count on the number of people working in Dublin?
Ms. Mumma responded that she can obtain that number for Council.
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Vice Mayor Gerber stated that Withholdings in 2014 -2015 has remained even. Is that because
there are more employees; or because the City been able to recoup the number of Verizon
employees that left; or are wages increasing?
Ms. Gibson responded that it is all of the above. The top companies continue to pay out bonuses
and their stock options are being exercised. Last year, one of Dublin's companies downsized
much of their management staff and replaced them with younger, salaried employees. Although
the previous management employees moved away, that income tax revenue continues to come
to Dublin because they are exercising their stock options. There has also been a significant
increase in the number of smaller businesses. With all the companies, there are significant
increases in numbers of employees every year. The wages are increasing, but also the number of
employees.
Vice Mayor Gerber noted that the net profit is way down -- $1.6M. Is that due to the loss of
Verizon?
Ms. Gibson confirmed that is correct.
Mr. McDaniel stated that the economic development strategy is attracting, retaining and
expanding those smaller and medium -sized companies. That is where employment growth
occurs. Staff is focusing on the technology jobs, which tend to be higher paying. They may not
have the executive suites, etc., but the steady tech job is where the City's focus remains and will
remain in the future. It is good to see growth in those businesses.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher requested a report for the September 8 Council meeting packet, looking at
perhaps the last five years, providing an annual update on number of employees, gains and
losses.
Vice Mayor Gerber noted that at some point, Amazon and Alcon will be on board, which will help
with those numbers.
Ms. Gibson stated that the City anticipates seeing growth around them. More health care
business expansions continue, and the OU area will continue to develop.
Vice Mayor Gerber noted that that the City has done a good job of planting seeds for the future.
Mr. Lecklider stated that it would be desirable to have the Verizon building filled again. He knows
staff is working on that. He was glad that the question was raised about the Hidaka valuation
reduction. That was such a substantial reduction, yet their operations do not appear to have
diminished.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that is not based on criteria, but on property value. Since 2008, many
real estate owners have requested adjustments from the Board of Revision.
Ms. Mumma stated that there have been a couple of other requests within the City TIF areas —
Wendy's corporate headquarters and the Nationwide building. It didn't seem rational that a
building could be devalued to that degree. She will obtain as much information as possible on
the basis for the Hidaka valuation reduction and forward that to Council.
Mr. Lecklider inquired about the process for the Auditor's valuation.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that he does not believe the City has any standing in this matter. The
School Board has standing to oppose the devaluation; they can attend the Board of Revision
hearing and object to it, but the City cannot do so.
Ms. Mumma stated that often, the City is not aware of the request until a decision has been
rendered. However, the School District has been aggressive in contesting Board of Revision
requests for a reduction in valuation.
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Mr. Lecklider stated that to the extent the Schools are successful, the City is successful. When is
the next Auditor's valuation?
Ms. Mumma stated that reappraisals are conducted triennially, with a sixth year major
reappraisal. She will check on the timing of the next cycle.
Mr. Lecklider inquired to what the net operating profit reduction was attributed.
Ms. Gibson responded that it is due to Verizon. The City has been receiving estimated payments
on a regular basis from them, but the estimated payments have ceased this year because of their
move.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that the City's Economic Development Department has done a good job
of bringing in other jobs to offset the loss.
Ms. Gibson responded that this is something to consider for the future. The State Legislature is
reducing the municipal tax, but the net operating tax is the one they dislike most. If businesses
succeed in having this addressed in the next House bill, that tax may be substantially reduced or
eliminated.
Mr. Lecklider inquired the total amount of operating tax revenue received -- $5 -6M?
Ms. Gibson responded that she believes so, but does not have that exact amount — she has been
focused on the withholding issue. However, the loss of the net operating tax would be a
significant reduction, for City planning purposes. It took three years to complete the last SB5, so
hopefully, it would take several years to do that, as well. She is more concerned about how the
City continues to work on the withholding issue to ensure that remains steady for all
municipalities in Ohio.
Income Tax Report
The July report indicates that the City is five percent over budget. The August report may be
smaller since we are increasing our budget. Five percent is quite healthy, but two percent would
be a good number, as well. Currently, August is looking healthy. That revenue is coming from the
City's larger employers and is received at this time every year.
Ms. Gibson noted that she has been working with OML, RITA, CCA, the City of Columbus and
Frost Brown Todd, and they have created a sample ordinance that they hope the majority of
cities and villages within Ohio will adopt. The bulk of the issues in that ordinance would not go
into effect until after 2017. The ordinance needs to be in place by the end of this year, so staff
plans to have it ready for Council's first October meeting. The previous ordinance cannot be
repealed; it must remain in place because it can be in effect for at least six more years. There
will be a period of time in which, if a taxpayer files multiple year returns, there would be two
different sets of rules. Because it would not go into effect until 2017, there is time to make
certain Dublin staff is trained and able to assist in regional training.
Vice Mayor Gerber inquired if Dublin has the requisite software system to accommodate these
changes.
Ms. Gibson responded affirmatively. The software is from a Michigan -based company. They have
another year to have the software ready for staff to test it, so staff will know how it will actually
play out on January 1, 2017. The City's penalty fee will increase slightly, and the interest rate
will decrease significantly. However, the penalty on withholdings escalates to 50% of the tax. A
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late withholding payment would be very significant. The City does not have many delinquent
withholding accounts, however, because staff works quickly and has a good rapport with the
Dublin companies and the payroll companies. None of the changes will affect Dublin next year;
the impact will be felt in 2017. Hopefully, next year the accountants will begin providing the City
with the pass- through offset numbers. The City has not had them in the past because it did not
allow them. Because the accountants have not given the City that information, the extent of the
impact is not known.
Vice Mayor Gerber inquired when the Net Operating Loss (NOL) would occur and if it would be
spread over various jurisdictions.
Ms. Gibson responded that it begins in 2018 — 2022.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that infers that those companies that have a presence in multi
jurisdictions might play with that somewhat. How many such companies might Dublin have?
Ms. Gibson responded that she does not anticipate Dublin will have a significant problem with the
NOL, except with partnerships. The loss will be taken at the entity level, and the partners will not
be reporting it.
Vice Mayor Gerber stated that for budgeting purposes, that revenue should be considered gone.
Ms. Gibson agreed, adding that the City will know what that amount is — it is a number that can
be identified. If a company has income in Dublin but a loss in Columbus, they can offset the two,
and neither Columbus nor Dublin would receive the money. She and Ms. Mumma have discussed
having a meeting in November with the tax preparers from whom Dublin receives significant
returns, and asking them to give the City that information in 2016. That information would guide
the City for 2017.
Mr. Lecklider inquired if HB 5 had passed.
Ms. Gibson responded that it did. Senate Bill 198 is still waiting; Kris Jordan is the sponsor. The
information she is receiving from other legislators and lobbyists is that it is not moving. He was
unable to obtain another sponsor. She noted that the coalition does not believe it is something
that our senators support, and they have indicated that in 2016, they will re -visit the municipal
tax issue.
Mr. Lecklider inquired what Senator Jordan's proposal includes.
Ms. Gibson responded that the proposal is that a municipality could only tax its residents.
Ms. Salay inquired about their motivation. Is it to make Ohio completely tax friendly?
Ms. Gibson responded that the majority of the legislators are either former township trustees or
former county commissioners. Those who are from City governments become "big picture"
people in the Legislature. They believe that it is unfair to tax people where they work because
they do not receive any benefit from where they work. It is considered an issue of "taxation
without representation." There are probably 10 cities in Ohio that would do very well with that,
but the big cities would go down very quickly. She is not sure how they can believe that would
make Ohio more business friendly.
Ms. Chin nici-Zuercher stated that those who work in a City benefit from the fire, police and road
programs.
Vice Mayor Gerber noted that Ohio is one of the few states that has a Local Income Tax.
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Ms. Gibson responded that is correct. In most of Pennsylvania, the tax is paid where the
individual lives. However, both Indiana and Kentucky have been suggesting to their municipalities
that they enact a municipal tax. There are some people that view Ohio as being progressive. In
Ohio, this began in the 1940s. Today, it might be done differently, but those were the rules and
they have been followed. Basically, Dublin was built on this tax system, and it isn't possible to
"change the rules in the middle of the game." Staff will continue to monitor this.
Mr. McDaniel stated that recently, he attended a meeting with a couple area City Managers. Dave
Collinsworth of Westerville has been driving an effort to bring together area city managers and
mayors of strong mayor city governments to form a central Ohio coalition to take a more active
role in addressing mutual concerns and issues. Mr. Collinsworth came to Westerville from western
Ohio, and the Miami Valley City Managers in the Dayton- Cincinnati area are very strong in this
regard. He is working to replicate that in central Ohio in order to have a stronger voice. Mr.
McDaniel added that he will host the first breakfast meeting of that group in Dublin, to help move
that effort forward.
Ms. Chinnici - Zuercher thanked everyone for the updates.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:20 p.m.
Clerk of Council